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<h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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You are both controlled and controller. That everyone is. Just like you are controller in your family, but you are controlled in the office. Similarly, everyone is dualistic: he's controller and controlled. But if you find somebody that He's only controller, not controlled, that is God.
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[[Vanisource:720801 - Lecture BG 02.11 - Glasgow|720801 - Lecture BG 02.11 - Glasgow]]
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Prabhupāda: One who is not Kṛṣṇa conscious or God conscious, he's sleeping.

Revatīnandana: (to guest) He said that one who is not Kṛṣṇa conscious, not God conscious, he is sleeping. His real life is asleep. So being awake in the true sense is to know my relation with God. That is true life, eternal life. Yes?

Prabhupāda: The Vedic injunction is, uttiṣṭhata jāgrata prāpya varān nibodhata (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 1.3.14), that "You wake up. You have got this chance of human form of body. You take advantage of it." These are the Vedic instruction. Uttiṣṭhata, "Get up, be awake." Jāgrata, "Be awakened to understand your identity." Therefore one who is not trying to understand his identity, spiritual identity, he's sleeping.

Revatīnandana: Yes? (indistinct question asked) "How can we know ourselves in Kṛṣṇa consciousness? How can we know ourselves through Kṛṣṇa consciousness?"

Prabhupāda: That you will know as they have known. These boys, these girls, they had no idea of Kṛṣṇa four years ago. Now they are fully Kṛṣṇa conscious. So if you follow their process, you'll understand what is Kṛṣṇa.

Revatīnandana: All right, we'll take one more. Yes? (indistinct question asked) Well, I couldn't quite follow you. I couldn't hear you distinctly.

Prabhupāda: Why don't you come forward? Come here.

Revatīnandana: Just very loudly and very simply state . . .

Prabhupāda: Or come here. We shall talk with you. Come here. (indistinct statement from man)

Revatīnandana: In other words, you . . . can you say that as a question? If you have a question, we can answer; otherwise, if you have a philosophy, then we can discuss it later. So what is the question? (man responds) Well, what is the contradiction? (man responds) Well, his question, it is "Why must we do something to become God when we're already God?"

Prabhupāda: You are not God, you are dog. Just the opposite. Do you know what is God?

Guest: According to you, we are all parts of God in either language.

Prabhupāda: How you are God? God is the controller. Are you controller? You are controlled. Therefore the controlled cannot be God. God means controller. Anyone who is controlled, he cannot be God. Anyone who . . . if one is controller, then He is God.

Guest: Yes, but I am also part of this controller.

Prabhupāda: Therefore you are not absolutely controller. You are both controlled and controller. That everyone is. Just like you are controller in your family, but you are controlled in the office. Similarly, everyone is dualistic: he's controller and controlled. But if you find somebody that He's only controller, not controlled, that is God.

Guest: If God is the controller and I am a part of God, then I'm a controlled part.

Prabhupāda: Yes, part of controller . . . part of God means you have got little power of controlling. But that you are not absolute controller. (man speaks—indistinct) But first of all you have to ascertain whether you are absolutely controller or you are controlled. First of all you answer this question. Are you absolutely controller?

Guest: I am not . . .

Prabhupāda: Therefore nobody is absolutely controller. He's controlled by the laws of nature. How he's absolutely controller? You are controlled by death, you're controlled by birth, you're controlled by disease, you're controlled by old age. How you became controller? So therefore you are not God.

Revatīnandana: All right. (applause) So if you have further discussion, you can discuss further later. After the program, we'll be all around to talk with you. For now, any more questions, it becomes difficult to follow. If there's any more questions, we'll take them after the next . . . this chant now.

So just like my spiritual master is inviting, that if you want to further understand this philosophy, you can discuss with us, and we have got many volumes of books. But you may not be very philosophically inclined, but anyone can experience Kṛṣṇa and Kṛṣṇa consciousness just by chanting this simple mantra with the names of God: Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare.

And now, for concluding the formal part of the program, we're going to chant this Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra and invite you all to join in and experience Kṛṣṇa in the form of His name, this transcendental sound. Just chant Hare Kṛṣṇa with us, and then afterward, if there are more questions or you want to see our literatures—we have so many books here—we can do that. But for now, please, for few minutes make an experiment in Kṛṣṇa consciousness by chanting this mantra.
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