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<h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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Gṛha-vratānām: one who has taken this vow that this home is everything, gṛha-vrata. Vrata means taken vow: "It is my only duty." Matir na kṛṣṇe. He cannot place his mind unto Kṛṣṇa, matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ svato vā, either by good advice of guru or personal, svataḥ; na mithaḥ, nor by meeting, sat-saṅga, so-called sat-saṅga, because the real disease is gṛha-vrata.
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Dr. Patel: So you have to leave the body consciousness and become soul conscious perpetually. It is so many people . . .

Prabhupāda: And that soul consciousness is Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

Dr. Patel: That is what I am saying.

Prabhupāda: Yes. So . . . but in the soul consciousness . . .

Dr. Patel: Becoming brahma-bhūtaḥ, you have to worship Para-brahman Kṛṣṇa.

Prabhupāda: Cent percent Kṛṣṇa consciousness is liberation. Hitvā 'nyathā . . .

Dr. Patel: Brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā ([[Vanisource:BG 18.54 (1972)|BG 18.54]]).

Prabhupāda: That is beginning.

Dr. Patel: He gets the highest bhakti. Brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā na śocati na kāṅkṣati, samaḥ sarveṣu . . . ([[Vanisource:BG 18.54 (1972)|BG 18.54]]).

Prabhupāda: No, brahma-bhūtaḥ . . . where is that brahma-bhūtaḥ?

Dr. Patel: Then he mad-bhaktiṁ labhate param. Then he gets the real . . . otherwise body conscious people cannot do the bhakti without becoming brahma-bhūtaḥ . . . (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: Brahma-bhūtaḥ. Everyone is śarīra-bhūtaḥ.

Dr. Patel: That is what I was telling you. And everyone was śarīre kuṇape tri-dhātuke.

Prabhupāda: Yes. So unless one is brahma-bhūtaḥ, there is no question of advancing in spiritual life. (break) . . .undaṁ parihṛtya kartam.

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:devarṣi-bhūtāpta-nṛṇāṁ pitṟṇāṁ
:nāyam ṛṇī na kiṅkaro rājan
:sarvātmanā yaḥ śaraṇaṁ śaraṇyaṁ
:gato mukundaṁ parihṛtya kartam 
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Finished. No more duty. "I simply surrender to Kṛṣṇa." He is liberated. Sarvātmanā yaḥ śaraṇaṁ śaraṇyaṁ gato mukundaṁ parihṛtya kartam. "I have no more duty." That is the brahma-bhūtaḥ stage, when one thinks prasannātmā, "Why I am suffering this unnecessary . . .?" (break) Devarṣi-bhūtāpta-nṛṇāṁ pitṟṇām ([[Vanisource:SB 11.5.41|SB 11.5.41]]). (break) Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ svato vā mitho 'bhipadyeta gṛha-vratānām ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.30|SB 7.5.30]]). One, if he is gṛha-vrata, he goes to guru or not guru—he'll never be reformed. Gṛha-vratānām: one who has taken this vow that this home is everything, gṛha-vrata. Vrata means taken vow: "It is my only duty." Matir na kṛṣṇe. He cannot place his mind unto Kṛṣṇa, matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ svato vā, either by good advice of guru or personal, svataḥ; na mithaḥ, nor by meeting, sat-saṅga, so-called sat-saṅga, because the real disease is gṛha-vrata.

Dr. Patel: No, that is right, sir. But there are . . .

Prabhupāda: Yes. So the gṛha-vrata . . . if we keep ourself gṛha-vrata, then either guru or personally or by sat-saṅga, nothing will help us. Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ svato vā mitho 'bhipadyeta gṛha-vratānām. Why? Adānta-gobhir viśatāṁ tamisraṁ punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.30|SB 7.5.30]]).

Devotee: Chewing the chewed.

Prabhupāda: Chewing the chewed. (break) Na te viduḥ svārtha-gatiṁ hi viṣṇuṁ durāśaya ye bahir-artha-māninaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.31|SB 7.5.31]]). If one is trying to be happy by material adjustment, that is durāśayā. It will never be . . . (break) Yāvan na ghṛnita mahīyasāṁ pada-rājobhiṣekam. Yavan na ghṛnita. Bhāgavata śloka, each word, each line, concentrated. Vyāsadeva's contribution, last thing, by Nārada's upadeśa. And this is the only means of anarthopaśamam. You have created anarthas, and human life (greets someone: Aiye) is meant for arthadam. But . . . (greets someone) Hare Kṛṣṇa. So therefore real Vedic civilization is that gradually we have to give up this gṛha-vrata position. At one time you must voluntarily give up. Although I do not like to give up, still, by the order of the śāstra, one has to give up. Pañcasordhvam vanam vrajet. Vrajet means compulsory. Just like we accept so many things compulsory, similarly, to give up family attachment after fiftieth year, that is compulsory. We therefore invite all the compulsory—what is called—renouncement. Of course, nobody can go to the forest. That is not possible. They are not trained up as brahmacārī. So this Hare Kṛṣṇa Land—"Come on." All the vānaprasthas, they can live in this land or Vṛndāvana, Hyderabad, simply for bhagavad-bhajana and no other purpose. Anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyaṁ (Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu 1.1.11), making all other purposes zero. Anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyaṁ jñāna-karmādy-anāvṛtam ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.167|CC Madhya 19.167]]). Jñāna and karma, these are bondage. Karmī, jñānī, yogī—they are especially bewildered. They want something, but still they say that "I am now renounced." So long there is want, he cannot be renounced. Renounced means no more want. Svāmin kṛtārtho 'smi: "I am fully satisfied now. I don't want anything." Yaṁ labdhvā cāparaṁ lābhaṁ manyate nādhikaṁ tataḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 6.20-23 (1972)|BG 6.22]]). "I have got such a nice thing that I have no aspiration for getting any more." That is brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā ([[Vanisource:BG 18.54 (1972)|BG 18.54]]). Svamin kṛtartho 'smi.
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