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<h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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Just like sometimes I think that I came here alone, without any expectation of success, and this movement has become so nice. Actually, by one man's effort it was not possible. But it has become so. This is acintya-śakti, Kṛṣṇa's, inconceivable. Even a modern businessman, he cannot organize such a worldwide organization in such short a time.
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Prabhupāda: So it is your śilā nora. I take it and break your teeth. (laughter) So take their this jugglery of words and break their teeth. That should be the policy. "These molecules and this and that," so many words. You have to simply catch their words, and with their words kill them. That is intelligence. We are saying plainly. You say with these words, which is their sona, mortar and pestle, and break their teeth. That's all. Tora śilā tora nora tora bāṇi dāntera gora.

This policy should be adopted. Otherwise, we know they are rascals. But if I say rascal, people will say, "You are not a scientific man. How you can say he is rascal?" "Therefore I am flattering you that otherwise . . ." You haven't got to convince me that a rascal. I know that he is a rascal. Now, because we have to prove that he is a rascal to another rascal, we have to take your help. This is our policy. Otherwise, so far we are concerned, if they go on lecturing for millions of years, we shall kick on their face. You should know he is mistaken. Let the rascal speak whatever he likes. We know the conclusion.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: So in trying to make a house, we need certain materials to build the house.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Materials are already there.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: So similarly, when the living entities, when they come down to the material platform . . .

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Prabhupāda: The material is already there. Just like what you are manufacturing? You are . . . already everything is there.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: So the chemists or the scientists, what they're thinking is, there are chemical elements, which are the materials necessary for staying the spirit soul within the . . . so long as he is within the material world. So they're saying that these material elements—carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen—the main elements, somehow they combine together, forming the living units. But our point is the chemicals are there, but in order to start the real nice house, the spirit soul has to enter within these chemical elements.

Prabhupāda: Yes. These chemical elements will already help him, by nature's way. Just like you put a seed on the earth. So other things necessary for fructifying that seed, that is already there. That will then come to help it. That is already there. Just like the living entity in seed form is impregnated within the womb of the mother. The mother has got within the womb all ingredients. Body will develop. On account of the presence of the living entity, by the laws of nature, everything is there. A dog is forming dog's body, man is forming man's body. Why? Because everything is there. A cat is forming cat's body in the womb of the . . . yathā yonir yathā bījam. You haven't got to search out. It is already there.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: So they may ask, "How do I know that the living entities . . .?"

Prabhupāda: What you know? You do not know, first of all. Therefore you have to take information from the śāstra. karmaṇā daiva netreṇa jantur dehopapattaye ([[Vanisource:SB 3.31.1|SB 3.31.1]]). This is there. The jīva is doing something, and higher authorities is giving him the result: "Now you have done this. Now you live in this way, in condition."

Svarūpa Dāmodara: That part we can explain by . . . what they ask, "How do I know that the living entities . . .?"

Prabhupāda: Just like a man is condemned for going to the jail. The man who will take him to the jail, the jail and everything is already there. The arrangement for his living in the jail, everything is complete there.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Can we explain by acintya śakti, Śrīla Prabhupāda? If we say how we enter, that is the difference between the . . .

Prabhupāda: No, that is acintya-śakti. You cannot think how it is done.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: But it is done.

Prabhupāda: It is done. Just like sometimes I think that I came here alone, without any expectation of success, and this movement has become so nice. Actually, by one man's effort it was not possible. But it has become so. This is acintya-śakti, Kṛṣṇa's, inconceivable. Even a modern businessman, he cannot organize such a worldwide organization in such short a time. We have talked with many businessmen in India. They . . . some say: "We have got thirty branches," somebody says: "We have got forty," another twenty branches. Our students say, "My Guru Mahārāja has 102 branches." (laughing) So they say: "No, we cannot compare with your Guru Mahārāja."

So this is acintya-śakti. You can see so many things, the acintya-śakti is working. So unless we accept acintya-śakti of God, it is not possible to understand what is God. Inconceivable potency. And that is actually a fact. We want to bring God to our level, that frog philosophy. Atlantic Ocean to the level of well. That is foolishness. That is foolishness. We have to understand that this whole universe . . . just like Arjuna saw the virāta-rūpa, universal form. So this whole universe is the form of the Lord.

So if in my body there are so many chemicals, enzymes and other things, so how much there must be, proportionately? Suppose if we find some portion of chemicals in my body, you will find less in the ant's body. Or you will find more in the elephant's body. So if I can create so many chemicals within my body, how much chemicals He can create? On that account . . . your theory, that combination of hydrogen, oxygen makes water, that is a fact. But you are surprised where from such a big quantity of hydrogen, oxygen came so that the ocean is there. That you cannot calculate. But we answer, "This hydrogen, oxygen is there in the body, universal body of the Lord." Therefore you find. Why do they do not understand this plain thing? Hydrogen, oxygen we accept; that's a fact. But you are surprised where from this big quantity of hydrogen, oxygen came. That we answer.

So let us cooperate. Then the people will be happy. That is acintya-śakti. If a poor man cannot spend ten dollars and if a rich man immediately spends million dollars, he becomes surprised, "How it is possible? How it is possible?" It is like that. We have got the capacity of not even ten dollars; you are thinking of millions and trillion dollars. Adara vapari yahan khabor. You know this?

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Adara vapari yahan khabor?

Prabhupāda: Adar, adar, adar means ginger. A ginger merchant, he is asking, "When the another ship will come?" Ginger is never purchased ship-loaded. You take little ginger. If you have got one bag of ginger, then it will be sold in three years. So adar vapari yahan khabor. What you have got to do with ship, shipment? You just carry one bag or ten seer, ten kilo . . . that's all. So these rascals, they are adar vapari, and they are taking account of "Where is that ship?" Hare Kṛṣṇa.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: I've noticed that there is a misunderstanding in the definition of living and the non-living among the scientific communities.
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