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<h2>Lectures</h2>
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<h3>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures</h3>
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Suppose the minister, the secretary of the president, goes to the criminal department to see the prison house. He is not affected by the prison rules. It is simple to understand. If the prisoner thinks, "Oh, he is also one of the prisoner, because he has come here," this is nonsense. He is not prisoner.
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[[Vanisource:661219 - Lecture CC Madhya 20.281-293 - New York|661219 - Lecture CC Madhya 20.281-293 - New York]]
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This material nature is like that. Just like you have seen one lamp. It is . . . once it is extinguished, once it is light. Similarly, there is creation, there is maintenance and there is annihilation of this material world.

Now, these three functions are controlled by three guṇāvatāra, qualitative incarnation of the Supreme Lord. What are they? Now, Viṣṇu . . . Viṣṇu is the incarnation of the modes of goodness, and Śiva is the incarnation of the modes of annihilation, and Brahmā is the in-charge. Brahmā the . . . is secondary. Brahmā is the secondary creator. First of all, the everything is, the principal, the material principal ingredients, and the guṇas and the everything is created by Viṣṇu. Then, the secondary creation, with those ingredients, all these planetary system, everything, is created by Brahmā. So Brahmā is also a secondary creator. And then Viṣṇu maintains.

Just like to a carpenter you give wood and planks and materials and screw and other things, and the carpenter makes a very good cabinet, and you . . . you maintain that, similarly, this brahmāṇḍa, the secondary creation, is Brahmā, and Viṣṇu is the maintainer, and when it is to be destroyed, it is destroyed by Lord Śiva. These three guṇāvatāra. Brahmā, viṣṇu, siva-tāṅra guṇa-avatāra. They are incarnations of Kṛṣṇa's guṇa. So in other words, it is to be understood that these three guṇas, they are also coming from Kṛṣṇa, three guṇas. So therefore, for Kṛṣṇa, there is no such distinction.

Several times just I have explained this thing, but this material, spiritual, or the qualitative differences, that is for us, not for Kṛṣṇa. How it is? Just like government has got different departments. There is criminal department, civil department, and this department, that department, so many departments.

Now, for us the criminal department may not be so pleasing or civil department may be very much pleasing, but for the government both the departments are equal, because they have to maintain equally, either criminal department or the civil department. The government has no distinction that "This, this is criminal department; therefore this department should be neglected," or "It is inferior." No. Rather, in criminal department the government may spend more than civil department.

Similarly, these distinction, these qualitative distinction, matter, spirit, and the different kinds of modes, they are distinction for us, not for Kṛṣṇa. He is Absolute. He is Absolute. To the Absolute, there is no such distinction. Therefore when Kṛṣṇa comes, when Kṛṣṇa comes in this material, He is not affected by this. Suppose the minister, the secretary of the president, goes to the criminal department to see the prison house. He is not affected by the prison rules. It is simple to understand. If the prisoner thinks, "Oh, he is also one of the prisoner, because he has come here," this is nonsense. He is not prisoner.

Similarly, when Kṛṣṇa comes in this material world, if a foolish man thinks that He is also one of us, he is foolish number one. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā it is stated, avajānanti māṁ mūḍhā mānuṣīṁ tanum āśritā ([[Vanisource:BG 9.11 (1972)|BG 9.11]]): "Foolish persons, they think that I am one of them." These examples are very nice. We can understand.
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