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<h2>Lectures</h2>
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<h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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In bhakti, one can immediately . . . because real process is to surrender to God. That is the real process. But these jñānīs, yogīs and karmīs, they are not prepared to surrender to God. The karmīs will say: "Let us act nicely," I mean to say: "virtuously. We are karmīs. So God must give us the result." This is called karma-mimāṁsā.
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[[Vanisource:721004 - Lecture SB 01.03.29 - Los Angeles|721004 - Lecture SB 01.03.29 - Los Angeles]]
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Seeing God is very mysterious, but it is very easy also. Very easy, provided we know the method how to see God. So that is bhakti-yoga. And therefore Kṛṣṇa recommends in the Bhagavad-gītā, bhaktyā mām abhijānāti yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥ: ([[Vanisource:BG 18.55 (1972)|BG 18.55]]) "Only through devotional service one can understand Me as I am." Otherwise he will commit mistake. There are different processes undoubtedly: jñāna, yoga, karma, bhakti. But if you want to see God, then you have to accept this bhakti-yoga, no other yoga.
Neither jñāna-yoga, nor karma-yoga, nor haṭha-yoga. You cannot see. You can see. Kleśo 'dhikataras teṣām avyaktāsakta-cetasām ([[Vanisource:BG 12.5 (1972)|BG 12.5]]). Those who are impersonalists . . . all of them are impersonalists. For them, it is very difficult, troublesome, to see God. They may try their process, but it will take long, long time to see God. But if one takes to bhakti-yoga—immediately. Bhaktyā mām abhijānāti yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 18.55 (1972)|BG 18.55]]).

So one may argue that "These bhaktas are not always very learned scholars. Mostly, they are mediocre. And there are so many big, big scholars, they cannot see God easily, and only the bhaktas can do?" Yes. That is the process. Kṛṣṇa says, bhaktyā mām abhijānāti yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥ. In bhakti, one can immediately . . . because real process is to surrender to God. That is the real process. But these jñānīs, yogīs and karmīs, they are not prepared to surrender to God. The karmīs will say: "Let us act nicely," I mean to say: "virtuously. We are karmīs. So God must give us the result." This is called karma-mimāṁsā.

They say that . . . just like the so-called scientists say that, "God has created this universe. The laws are there. So we have to study the laws. What we shall do with the God?" Is it not? "God has created these . . . the physical laws are there. So let us study these physical laws. What is the use of studying God?" That is their view.

The karma-mimāṁsā also, that, they say that, "After all, if we act virtuously, then we shall get good result. So what is the use of worshiping God? Let us work virtuously." This is their view, karmī. And jñānī. Jñānī also, they say—jñānī, the scientists, they are jñānī—that "What is the use of worshiping God? Let us study the laws of God." So jñānī, karmī . . . and yogī, they are also of the same view. So karmī, jñānī, yogī, and the last is bhakta.

So bhakta can see God very quickly because Kṛṣṇa recommends, bhaktyā mām abhijānāti yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 18.55 (1972)|BG 18.55]]). Tattvataḥ, in truth, one can understand what is God by following the process of bhakti-yoga. And so far the jñānīs, yogīs are concerned, they will come to that point of bhakti-yoga after many, many births. That is also stated in the Bhagavad-gītā: bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). At the end of millions of births, jñānī, jñānavān, those who are searching through knowledge . . .

So what is the value of our knowledge? Teeny knowledge. Imperfect senses. We are gathering imperfect knowledge. But we don't neglect knowledge. We give credit to the philosophers, scientists, because . . . but we advise them that, "Your research work should be for God, not for any temporary physical or chemical compound. No."

It is advised by Nārada Muni, kavibhir nirūpitaḥ.

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:idaṁ hi puṁsas tapasaḥ śrutasya vā
:sūktasya buddhasya buddha-dattayoḥ
:avicyuto 'rthaḥ kavibhir nirūpito
:yad-uttamaśloka-guṇānuvarṇanam 
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If you are a jñānī, a philosopher, speculating what is the truth, so the truth is . . . ultimate truth is Kṛṣṇa. So if from the very beginning you try to search out by your philosophical knowledge or if you try to prove the supremacy of Kṛṣṇa by your philosophical speculation, that is perfection. That is your perfection. Otherwise it is simply laboring, waste of time.
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