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<h2>Lectures</h2>
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<h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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There is no ideal men now, at the present moment. Everyone is śūdra. Kalau śūdra-sambhavaḥ. Then how the society will be happy? It is not possible, because there is no ideal men. So here Kṛṣṇa says that we should create, we should educate a section of man who are by brāhmaṇa, by guṇa and karma, not by birth. Then society will be happy.
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[[Vanisource:751011 - Lecture BG 18.45 - Durban|751011 - Lecture BG 18.45 - Durban]]
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Kṛṣṇa presents before you the problem amongst . . . we have got so many problems, but that is temporary. Real problem is, Kṛṣṇa says, janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi-duḥkha-doṣānudarśanam ([[Vanisource:BG 13.8-12 (1972)|BG 13.9]]). A man of knowledge should always keep in the front the real problem. What is that? Birth, death, old age and disease. This is your real problem. So the human life is meant for solving these four problems: birth, death, old age and disease. And that can be done by Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So we are pushing on this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement to solve the ultimate problems of life. So our request is that you take this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement very seriously and solve the ultimate problems of life. And that problems of life can be solved simply by understanding Kṛṣṇa. Simply by understanding Kṛṣṇa.

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:janma karma ca me divyaṁ
:yo jānāti tattvataḥ
:tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma
:naiti mām eti kaunteya 
:([[Vanisource:BG 4.9 (1972)|BG 4.9]])
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This is the solution of problem.

Then what will be the benefit, mām eti, by going back to home, back to Kṛṣṇa? Now, mām upetya tu kaunteya duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam, nāpnuvanti. Mām upetya tu kaunteya, saṁsiddhiṁ labhate parām ([[Vanisource:BG 8.15 (1972)|BG 8.15]]). The same example, this, that "Anyone who comes back to Me," Kṛṣṇa says, "then," duḥkhālayam aśāśvataṁ nāpnuvanti, "he does not get again birth in this material world, which is duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam." Kṛṣṇa certifies about this world as duḥkhālayam, "the place of miseries," and we are trying to be happy. This is our illusion. You cannot be happy in this material world. Tell me if anyone is happy. Nobody is happy. The problem, only problem, beginning from the womb of mother up to the again, next death, simply problems. This is material life. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, mām upetya tu kaunteya duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam ([[Vanisource:BG 8.15 (1972)|BG 8.15]]), nāpnuvanti: "He does not come again." That is the solution. That is saṁsiddhiṁ labhate nara.

So the society must be divided as suggested in Bhagavad-gītā and other Vedic literature, that cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 4.13 (1972)|BG 4.13]]). There must be four varṇas and four āśramas, ideal. Then you may be a śūdra, you may be a gṛhastha or you may be a brāhmaṇa—everyone will get salvation, everyone attain the perfection, if we adopt this process. So there must be one class of men, first-class men, ideal, that people will learn that "Here is an ideal class of men. Let me try to imitate or follow them." But there is no ideal men now, at the present moment. Everyone is śūdra. Kalau śūdra-sambhavaḥ. Then how the society will be happy? It is not possible, because there is no ideal men. So here Kṛṣṇa says that we should create, we should educate a section of man who are by brāhmaṇa, by guṇa and karma, not by birth. Then society will be happy. Śamo damas . . . this is the brahminical qualification:

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:śamo damas tapaḥ śaucaṁ
:kṣāntir ārjavam eva ca
:jñānaṁ vijñānam āstikyaṁ
:brahma-karma svabhāva-jam 
:([[Vanisource:BG 18.42 (1972)|BG 18.42]])
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So our this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is that for the time being we are trying to create a section of men, not from India, not from Hindus. Never . . . Kṛṣṇa never said that, "These things can be done only in India and amongst the section, the Hindu." No. It is open for everyone. It is open for everyone. Just like if you start an engineering college, does it mean that it is meant for Hindus or Muslims or a certain nationality? No. It should be open for everyone. Anyone who wants to become a brāhmaṇa, he can become brāhmaṇa. Of course, the, what is called, conservative class of men, they come to fight with us that, "How you are making brāhmaṇas from the European and American people? They are mlecchas and yavana." No. That is not śāstric injunction.
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