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<h3>Nectar of Devotion Lectures</h3>
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It is utpātā, disturbance. If you do not follow the principles of śruti, smṛti, purāṇa, pāñcarātriki-vidhi . . . just like we were discussing this point, sarvopādhi-vinirmuktam (CC Madhya 19.170). This is pāñcarātriki-vidhi. So if we do not follow these principles . . . without following these principles, the so-called devotional service, hari-bhakti, utpātā, simply disturbance, simply a disturbance. Therefore we have to follow the principles laid down by the Gosvāmīs, ṣaḍ-gosvāmī. Vande rūpa-sanātanau raghu-yugau śrī-jīva-gopālakau. And then our attempt will be successful.
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Śrīla Jīva Gosvāmī has discussed this point in his Tattva-sandarbha, that we cannot accept any manufactured ideas. Because everyone is defective by the four defects of material life, we have to accept the version of Vedas, Purāṇas. He has tried to establish Purāṇas as Vedic supplementary. Others, they reject Purāṇas out of the Vedas. But Jīva Gosvāmī established. All the Gosvāmīs. Just like Rūpa Gosvāmī has given:

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:śruti-smṛti-purāṇādi-
:pāñcarātrikī vidhiṁ vinā
:aikāntikī harer bhaktir
:utpātayaiva kalpate 
:(Brs. 1.2.101)
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It is utpātā, disturbance. If you do not follow the principles of śruti, smṛti, purāṇa, pāñcarātriki-vidhi . . . just like we were discussing this point, sarvopādhi-vinirmuktam ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.170|CC Madhya 19.170]]). This is pāñcarātriki-vidhi. So if we do not follow these principles . . . without following these principles, the so-called devotional service, hari-bhakti, utpātā, simply disturbance, simply a disturbance.

Therefore we have to follow the principles laid down by the Gosvāmīs, ṣaḍ-gosvāmī. Vande rūpa-sanātanau raghu-yugau śrī-jīva-gopālakau. And then our attempt will be successful.
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