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[[Category:Before Krsna]]
[[Category:Krsna and Arjuna]]
[[Category:Speaking to Krsna]]
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Because he accepted Kṛṣṇa as spiritual master, so spiritual master has the right to chide his disciple. So He immediately chided him, that aśocyān anvaśocas tvaṁ prajṣā-vādāṁś ca bhāṣase: "My dear Arjuna, you are talking just like a very learned man, but you are fool number one." That was His first words. Of course, He did not say directly "fool number one," but He said indirectly, that "No learned man speaks like this, as you are speaking." That means, "You are not learned man. You are fool."

He indirectly said, nānuśocanti paṇḍitāḥ. Paṇḍita means learned. "No learned man speaks like that. But because you are speaking like that, that means you are not learned man. Or in one word, you are fool." Because Kṛṣṇa . . . before Kṛṣṇa, he was speaking that, "If I kill my family members, then such-and-such thing will happen. Then the women will become polluted and there will be unwanted children, varṇa-saṅkara. And as soon as there is varṇa-saṅkara, full of unwanted children, this world will be hell." These are facts. These are facts. The world has become hell due to unwanted children. That is the fact.
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Because he accepted Kṛṣṇa as spiritual master, so spiritual master has the right to chide his disciple. So He immediately chided him, that aśocyān anvaśocas tvaṁ prajṣā-vādāṁś ca bhāṣase: "My dear Arjuna, you are talking just like a very learned man, but you are fool number one." That was His first words. Of course, He did not say directly "fool number one," but He said indirectly, that "No learned man speaks like this, as you are speaking." That means, "You are not learned man. You are fool."

He indirectly said, nānuśocanti paṇḍitāḥ. Paṇḍita means learned. "No learned man speaks like that. But because you are speaking like that, that means you are not learned man. Or in one word, you are fool." Because Kṛṣṇa . . . before Kṛṣṇa, he was speaking that, "If I kill my family members, then such-and-such thing will happen. Then the women will become polluted and there will be unwanted children, varṇa-saṅkara. And as soon as there is varṇa-saṅkara, full of unwanted children, this world will be hell." These are facts. These are facts. The world has become hell due to unwanted children. That is the fact.

So Kṛṣṇa was speaking . . . Arjuna was speaking just like ordinary gentleman on the material field, but Kṛṣṇa, when He took up his charge, He said that, "You are hovering over the material plane. That is not your learning. The learning is when you understand from the spiritual platform."

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:aśocyān anvaśocas tvaṁ
:prajṣā-vādāṁś ca bhāṣase
:gatāsūn agatāsūṁś ca
:nānuśocanti paṇḍitāḥ 
:([[Vanisource:BG 2.11 (1972)|BG 2.11]])
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"The paṇḍitāḥ, the learned man, he does not lament over the body, either living or dead." Because bodily platform is not the subject matter for understanding of philosophical research. Bodily platform is not very important. The spiritual platform is important, but nobody is discussing about spiritual platform.
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