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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG95MelbourneApril241976_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="310" link="Lecture on BG 9.5 -- Melbourne, April 24, 1976" link_text="Lecture on BG 9.5 -- Melbourne, April 24, 1976">
<div class="heading">That is to be judged by the spiritual master. You cannot judge. You cannot judge who is following, who is not following. That is not your jurisdiction. Therefore he has accepted a spiritual master, his jurisdiction. He'll do whatever necessary.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 9.5 -- Melbourne, April 24, 1976|Lecture on BG 9.5 -- Melbourne, April 24, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guest (3) (young man): I'm asking this question. I'm concerned about the perverted caste system in India, right? I'm asking this question on a brāhmaṇa, the varṇāśrama-dharma system. If one of your brāhmaṇa initiated disciples falls from this platform, leaves the temple and commits offenses, then returns, demanding respect, should he be allowed to keep the sacred thread or should he be engaged in menial service, which never fails to cultivate humility?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Well, that is to be judged by the spiritual master. You cannot judge.</p>
<p>Guest (3): Well, I'm asking this because...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: You cannot judge who is following, who is not following. That is not your jurisdiction. Therefore he has accepted a spiritual master, his jurisdiction. He'll do whatever necessary.</p>
<p>Guest (3): Has there been a case...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So that case you cannot judge. The case has to be judged by the spiritual master.</p>
<p>Guest (3): Could you give me an example of a case that has been...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Just like if somebody has done something wrong he is taken to the court and the judge gives his decision, whether he is criminal or not. The man who has arrested him, he cannot give the decision. It has to be tried by the higher authority. Then the judgment will be.</p>
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