View source for In Bengal, it is a proverb, said, that: The coconut sweet pulp and water is within. And they are struggling with the fibers above the coconut

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<div id="LectureonCCMadhyalila251931SanFranciscoJanuary201967_0" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="114" link="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 25.19-31 -- San Francisco, January 20, 1967" link_text="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 25.19-31 -- San Francisco, January 20, 1967">
<div class="heading">The coconut is covered by heavy, what is called, fibers. So if you give up the coconut and simply quarrel with the fibers, what profit is there? There is no profit. Similarly, if you give up God, or Kṛṣṇa, who is the essence of everything, and you make your advancement in scientific knowledge, in physics and chemistry and so many departments of knowledge, so according to Bhāgavata this is simply waste of time.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 25.19-31 -- San Francisco, January 20, 1967|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 25.19-31 -- San Francisco, January 20, 1967]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">They stress on knowledge. What is this knowledge? You can talk on any insignificant thing for many years. That is not knowledge. Just like in the present modern civlization, so many nonsense articles without any utility, or volumes of volumes of books are sold in the market. There is nothing, no substance. Take for this..., newspaper. Especially in your country, volumes of papers in the news. Just after glancing over, it is thrown away. That's all. No more use. Just as The newspaper is published early in the morning, and just in the afternoon it is useless, it is heap of paper only, because there is no substance. Nobody can take any interest. But see Bhagavad-gītā, it is, five thousand years before it was published, and a few pages only, and how much care is being taken after Bhagavad-gītā. Because there is substance. Similarly, if you don't accept the substance, simply if you are busy with the skin... In Bengali it is called cavara nie tanake (?). Cavara means skin. You have seen coconut. The coconut is covered by heavy, what is called, fibers. So if you give up the coconut and simply quarrel with the fibers, what profit is there? There is no profit. Similarly, if you give up God, or Kṛṣṇa, who is the essence of everything, and you make your advancement in scientific knowledge, in physics and chemistry and so many departments of knowledge, so according to Bhāgavata this is simply waste of time. Simply waste of time. But what we'll gain? Kevala-bodha-labdhaye. Suppose you understand in your human form of life the whole constitution of the universe... That is stated in Bible also, that "If somebody understands everything, but not God, then what does he gain?"</p>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="ConversationonRoofDecember261975Sanand_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="271" link="Conversation on Roof -- December 26, 1975, Sanand" link_text="Conversation on Roof -- December 26, 1975, Sanand">
<div class="heading">The inside pulp of coconut requires the covering outside. Otherwise, it will be spoiled. Crude example. But the real substance is inside, not outside. But these rascals, they have no information of the inside substance. They think that "Here is coconut. Let us try to find out happiness." And they are simply struggling to adjust the fibers.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation on Roof -- December 26, 1975, Sanand|Conversation on Roof -- December 26, 1975, Sanand]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Dialectical means keep spiritualism or materialism. It is dialectic. Two sides there are, the material and the spiritual. These ignorant rascals, cats—and dogslike men, they have no information of the thing which is covered. They're simply dealing with the covering. Therefore their knowledge is imperfect, and they're not successful by so many theses. They do not know the real problem. Who is enjoyer? That they do not know. That enjoyer is covered. And they are talking on the cover. That.... In Bengal, it is a proverb, said, that: Sobraniye tanatan.(?) In the.... I think I was talking on this. In the coconut. The coconut sweet pulp and water is within. And they are struggling with the fibers above the coconut. Coconut.... They have got some information coconut is enjoyable, but where is the enjoyable article is there, that they do not know. They have simply information this body, and the coconut's body is covered with fibers. And they are fighting with the fibers. None of these so-called capitalists or, what is called, Communists, they do not know where is the real substance is. Superficially, they are fighting on the platform of fiber covering. That's all. Sobraniye tanatan,(?) this Bengali word exactly. They're fighting just like dogs. Actually they do not know how to become happy, but one dog is barking upon another dog, and they're fighting, attacking, barking-useless. The dogs and cats, they do not know what is the value of life, and they fight on the covering, same fiber, fight. But here is a chance, human being. Therefore dialectic. Dialectic materialism. You should be materialist; you should not condemn anything, both the inside and outside. The inside pulp of coconut requires the covering outside. Otherwise, it will be spoiled. Crude example. But the real substance is inside, not outside. But these rascals, they have no information of the inside substance. They think that "Here is coconut. Let us try to find out happiness." And they are simply struggling to adjust the fibers. Therefore they have been described as mūḍhaḥ, rascals.</p>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">It is said, ksoprai kanana. Coconut pulp is within, and these people are interested with the fiber, not with the pulp. So all discoveries of the modern education, they are ksoprai kanana.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversations -- April 19, 1977, Bombay|Conversations -- April 19, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">...is a Bengali common word. It is said, ksoprai kanana(?). Ksopra(?), that is like a coconut. Coconut pulp is within, and it is covered with a hard... What is called?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Shell.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...shell, and again covered with fiber.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Husk.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So these people are interested with the fiber, not with the pulp. So all discoveries of the modern education, they are ksoprai kanana(?).</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That fiber is the least valuable part.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But they are discovering(?).</p>
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