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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1975]]
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="InterviewwithaGermanGirlandAssortedDevoteesMarch301975Mayapur_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="37" link="Interview with a German Girl and Assorted Devotees -- March 30, 1975, Mayapur" link_text="Interview with a German Girl and Assorted Devotees -- March 30, 1975, Mayapur">
<div class="heading">Yes. It is perpetually holy place, but it is known since the birthday of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Interview with a German Girl and Assorted Devotees -- March 30, 1975, Mayapur|Interview with a German Girl and Assorted Devotees -- March 30, 1975, Mayapur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Haṁsadūta: So she... Her next question is that in the last few days, approximately five hundred devotees have assembled here from all over the world. She says that she knows that this is the birthplace of Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. So therefore they have come. She knows that it is a holy place. She wants to know that even before Lord Caitanya's time, was it also considered to be a holy place?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. It is perpetually holy place, but it is known since the birthday of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: (German)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: (aside:) Just wait one... (break) ...the cat's and dog's body. The cats and dogs, they cannot understand that, that life is beyond this body. But in the human form of life one can understand. He has got such consciousness. So by nature's law, by evolution, we come to the human form of body to understand this. And if we do not utilize this knowledge for understanding our real identity, then we remain cats and dogs, and we become again cats and dogs. By nature's law, I have been given this chance. If I do not utilize it properly, then again I become what I was before.</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: One has to be sincere. One has to be sincere to understand this?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It is not the question of sincerity; it is the question of ignorance. If, if the father, mother, teacher, government does not know that how the people should be raised, then they remain in ignorance. Just like a... If the child... Child is ignorant, but if he's not given the education...</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: She says now in this movement a new generation is being raised up, the children that we have in our schools and in our movement.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There... Therefore we are educating children even.</p>
<p>Girl: For the future</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, future generation. Because the so-called educational institutions, they have produced only fools and rascals.</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: She says you cannot change the society? We want to produce a new society?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No new society. A new status of consciousness. We don't want to change anything. We want to change the consciousness because they are in ignorance.</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: She says it is a great service or a help for the world.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: She says she has noticed here that if a new person comes to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, he can understand what he can actually do. For example, she was very impressed by the dance troupe last night, and on the night before, the devotees. She's realized that they are dancing. She did not realize before that one can do just about anything for Kṛṣṇa. And she says this place immediately gives that impression, that anyone, in any station, he can be engaged.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. You are very intelligent.</p>
<p>Girl: Oh. (Laughs)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We can engage anyone to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It does not depend on particular education, status of life. It doesn't matter. Ahaitukī. The exact Sanskrit word is ahaituky apratihatā. Ahaitukī means without any cause and without being checked. If anyone wants to be Kṛṣṇa conscious, there is no impediment in the whole world which can check him.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: (German)</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: Yes. She says if a person wants to give the best of himself, it is probably best to give that which he has learned throughout his life, to do it for Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: She says, now, to your books, that, er... I can answer this question for her later, if she wants to know. How many books are already finished, and how much is more to come in the future?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: In fu... There is no limit. But I wish to write at least sixty books.</p>
<p>Girl: (German) More?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. We have already finished...</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: Four cantos.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Four cantos. And there are eight cantos more.</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: She says that... She says she wants to know if you think it would be worthwhile for her to write a book, something similar to the one that was written in America. It was called "The Strange World of the Hare Krishna People." You've heard of it?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm. Hm.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: But she says serious, not in the way it was written by her, because she is a journalist, and this is her natural inclination, and she has been here now since the beginning, and she is noting everything. So it is her natural tendency. Whether you think it is worthwhile for her to write a little book for the public?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It is... It will be great service, provided you write nicely the right things.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: (German)</p>
<p>Girl: To help you?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. People are in ignorance, ninety-nine percent.</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Entire, whole world. They are going on. They are fighting on this bodily concept of life. So, apart from fighting... Of course, you cannot stop fighting. But at least a section of men must be in right knowledge. So what I say, that in the Western countries, they, even the very high, topmost educationists, they also do not believe that there is life after death, is it not? Am I right or not?</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: She understands.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So just see how much ignorance is prevailing. So if you can dissipate this ignorance, darkness...</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Eh?</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: So that... She says, yes, if one thinks in this way, then life has no sense, that there's no sense to it, if one does not believe in a life beyond this life. It is senseless.</p>
<p>Girl: (German) Then it's no life, no life after death.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: She says therefore, therefore they feel anything can be done in this life because in next life there is nothing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Nothing. That I talked with big professors. They say. They say like that. Here also, the so-called Indian leaders, they are also thinking like that.</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: She says she has heard that in the universities in America it is being taught about Kṛṣṇa consciousness. In some of the universities Kṛṣṇa consciousness is being taught.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Girl: It's a beginning.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm. Just like Temple University, they have got this Nectar of Devotion. And many universities, they are studying Kṛṣṇa book, Bhāgavatam. They are gradually accepting. At least the professors, teaching staff, they are accepting. They are studying as one side of views, not seriously.</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: They speculate still.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: She says it appears that one has to become again as a child.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm?</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: She means... She says that it appears to understand this teaching one has to become again as a child.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. If he does not forget what he has learned, then it will be difficult.</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: She says... She asks whether it will come to a fight with the demons and the devotees like Arjuna, or is this question, in the future, she means, or is this question not important?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: The fight is already going on. You cannot stop fighting.</p>
<p>Girl: (German) We must chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm?</p>
<p>Girl: We must chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That is the simplest way. That is the simplest way. If one sincerely chants Hare Kṛṣṇa, he becomes enlightened.</p>
<p>Girl: (German)</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: She says this is the main thing that Lord Caitanya has given the people in this age, a simple process to approach God.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, the highest perfection, to reach the highest perfection, that is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's special gift.</p>
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