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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1975]]
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<div class="heading">Where is that fort?... And where are the fort makers? (laughter) Where they have gone?... So what is the meaning of this fort? If the fort makers are themselves finished, then what is the use of making fort?
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- October 7, 1975, Durban|Morning Walk -- October 7, 1975, Durban]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: This old fort? This is actually called "Old Fort" isn't it? This part is built around a commemoration to a very old military fort. British.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Where is that fort?</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: It's supposed to be some kind of museum over here. I don't think the fort is still standing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And where are the fort makers? (laughter) Where they have gone?</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They were shot out of the cannon.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So what is the meaning of this fort? If the fort makers are themselves finished, then what is the use of making fort?</p>
<p>Devotee (2): "Why should we live anymore? We're not getting any pleasure out of life. There's no future. Why should..." People are happy to die these days, because there is no pleasure.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There is no... Who said there is no pleasure?</p>
<p>Devotee (2): Well, in this world. I mean, this world is more or less suffering.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, they say, "There is no pleasure," so then why you are wasting your time for pleasure?</p>
<p>Devotee (2): Yes, but they are confused.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They want to enjoy, but they're not finding pleasure.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So we give you enjoyment. Come to Kṛṣṇa. No tree?</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: There are some mango trees behind the house where we're staying, Śrīla Prabhupāda.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They're not in season right now. There is some fruit on this tree. See up there? There is some fruit. Could be a mango tree.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What are these plants? Pineapple? No. Different. (break) ...intelligent. Just like here is sunshine. Wherefrom the sunshine is coming? We can see the sun globe. So what is the arrangement there? This is inquiry. And there must be some heating arrangement, lighting arrangement. There must be some fire. And who has made this fire? How it came, so big fire that the whole universe is heated and light? This is inquiry. And see the sunshine and say, "It is nature," and finish business, dismiss all other questions—what is this nonsense? "I am great scientist." Eh? What is your reply? "It is nature, that's all." A great scientist. That a child can say also. It is automatic. That is not intelligence. If the scientists simply study the sunshine, they will have to come to the conclusion there is God. But they will not do that. They will bluff others, they will cheat others, and they will be cheated. And still they pass on as great scientist. Study the sunshine, wherefrom it is coming. You have no experience that unless there is arrangement at night, there is no sunshine, why you make so much arrangement for heat and light by electricity, by this way and that way and there is no arrangement nature? But such foolish talks we have to hear from so-called scientists? That is going on.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: They like to think that everything evolved so they can think that eventually...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is the...? Why you do not manufacture something that everything will evolve? Why you have to search out for petrol? Let petrol evolve within your car. Make such arrangement. Why you are anxious to get petrol from Arabia? Evolve petrol. Make some scientific discovery that petrol is evolving, so when the machine is going on, petrol is also evolving. Then you are scientist. Evolve. The theory of evolve will come. But you cannot do that. Why do you say nonsense? Darwin's theory—"extinct." Now he is extinct. Does it mean so many other Charles are also extinct? There are many thousands of Charles Darwins. They are existing. So where is his theory of extinction? He is a man. He is no longer existing. And so many millions and millions of men are existing. Where is the question of extinct?</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Well, they found that certain species of life...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But he belongs to some species, English species, but he is gone. Does it mean the English species is gone? These rascals, they are big scientist and we have to accept them. (break) As a person, he is extinct. Does it mean that the English people are extinct?</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: No.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then? Why does he say "extinct"? These cheaters, they cheat themselves and bluff others and mislead the people. This is their position. We want at least that people may not be bluffed by these rascals and waste their time. That we want, that much. They may say that "You are not scientist." Yes, I am not scientist, but I can request you that don't be bluffed by this nonsense. That much I can say. I can prove that he is a nonsense. Why you are wasting time after them? Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break)...their folly, European men. Where the American men will go? (laughter) Just see. (break) ...from India they made Indian center, and they conquered both sides—Far East, Middle East, Africa—with Indian soldiers. They organized Indian soldiers and Sikhs and Gurkhas, and they employed them for extending their empire. British soldier does not mean... Maybe two, one or two British commanders, but real soldiers were Indians.</p>
<p>Devotee (3): The Indian soldiers were known as the Gurkhas.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Gurkhas and Sikhs.</p>
<p>Devotee (3): Of Nepal.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. You know that? (break)</p>
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