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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1975]]
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">Yes.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- October 20, 1975, Johannesburg|Morning Walk -- October 20, 1975, Johannesburg]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Harikeśa: So it's not possible that anyone's happy? There is no possibility of anyone being happy.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. One who thinks he is happy, he is number one fool.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Everyone is searching after material happiness.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. But there is no happiness.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: What about if one is in the mode of goodness? Maybe one or two...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Mode of goodness... If he thinks that he is happy, then he is fool. The mode of goodness means one must know that we cannot be happy here. That is mode of goodness. And if he thinks, "I am happy," then he is not in mode of goodness. He's in darkness.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: So everyone at present is trying to become happy by this or that activity.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They are fools, rascals.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: So if everyone accepts that there is no happiness at all to be found in this world...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then they are intelligent.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Then what to do?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Tad-vijñānārtham... Therefore you go to guru. Go to Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Devotee (1): Do I have to join your movement to be happy? Can I just take Kṛṣṇa consciousness outside your movement?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Devotee (1): So there is no possibility of me being Kṛṣṇa conscious outside your movement.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa consciousness can be developed with devotees. Alone it is difficult.</p>
<p>Devotee (1): If I start my own community outside the movement?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. The community means many devotees.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: So you were saying, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that if there is no happiness and one recognizes it, then he goes to guru.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then he must... Just like Arjuna submitted to Kṛṣṇa because he was disturbed. So that is the point where one must approach a guru, how to become happy. That is intelligence. Athāto brahma jijñāsā: "Now inquire about real happiness."</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: So one who is looking for material happiness...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He's a fool.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: ...it is very difficult for them to approach guru.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He is a fool, rascal, blind. Where there is happiness not possible, he is trying to find out happiness. Therefore he is a fool. Which is not possible, if one tries for it, then he is fool.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: But I look around and I see everybody else enjoying.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Because you are fool, you are seeing like that. That is the proof that you are a fool.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: They all tell me what a great time...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa says, duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam ([[Vanisource:BG 8.15|BG 8.15]]), and you are finding out happiness. Then how much fool you are. The best authority says that "This is a place of suffering," and you are finding out happiness. So how much fool you are, it is very difficult to estimate. (laughter) Therefore Vedic knowledge is perfect. Now just like there is signboard, "No admission." So who is the fool, create some trouble by entering into it? He's a fool. If there is signboard, "There is no admission," and if somebody enters to create some trouble, he is not a fool? So Kṛṣṇa says, "There is no happiness," and if somebody searches happiness, he is not a fool? That is... Therefore Kṛṣṇa consciousness required, that he gets perfect knowledge from Kṛṣṇa. He has no trouble. Kṛṣṇa said, "There is no happiness," and if somebody thinks, "All right, although Kṛṣṇa said, let me try for it," then he is a fool.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Similarly, they say that they can cure disease, but it's impossible.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: How it is possible? The disease is suffering, and this place is suffering, so where is the question of curing disease? Kṛṣṇa consciousness means intelligence. We are guided by Kṛṣṇa, so there is no trouble. Everything is all right. That is Kṛṣṇa conscious. And as soon as you make experiment like fools and rascal, then you are doomed.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: "Well, my guru, Meher Baba, tells me, 'Don't worry. Be happy.' "</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then he is another fool, another rascal, mūḍha.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: He didn't even speak. He didn't speak for so many years.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Who?</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: This Meher Baba.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh, he was your guru? (laughs)</p>
<p>Harikeśa: He says, "Don't worry. Be happy, and just love me."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Just see. And he died of motor accident.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: He died in motor accident?</p>
<p>Harikeśa: Yes. He was killed by a car.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: "Don't worry, I am going to die by motor accident. Don't worry. Don't worry. I am going to die by motor accident." All these rasals, they have misled the whole world. What is this raised ground?</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: This is where they hit the golf ball from, raised up. This is the men's teeing part. And the ladies' teeing part, they tee off from here, little bit shorter.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No equal right.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: No equal rights.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: Well, all the swamis are saying that all you have to do is just be happy. It's just a state of being. You just have to think happiness.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That we also say, but you must know how to get happiness. That is required. Happiness is the aim of everyone. But how to get happiness, permanent, that is knowledge.</p>
<p>Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Is a devotee seeking mental happiness as well? Is the devotee searching after...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: A devotee does not seek anything except service of Kṛṣṇa. He does not seek anything separate. He simply wants to serve Kṛṣṇa. That's all. Anyābhilāṣita śūnyam (Brs. 1.1.11). Making zero all other desires, that, he is devotee. If he is going to Kṛṣṇa for some happiness, he is not a devotee.</p>
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