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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1975]]
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<div class="heading">That is free will, but under the point of revolver. So māyā is very strong. māyā is very strong. So when you are under the māyā's clutches, she dictates and you have to do. This is called māyā, daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā dura... (BG 7.14), very, very strong. So mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taran... If one is staunchly Kṛṣṇa conscious, he can avoid. Otherwise not possible.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with writer, Sandy Nixon -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia|Room Conversation with writer, Sandy Nixon -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guest: Swami, what about those who practice one of the other religions in...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There is no other religion. I have repeatedly said. Religion is to abide by the orders of God. Nobody knows what is God, and nobody knows what is the order of God. Or even if one knows, he does not carry it. So how there can be religion? If you abide by the state laws, then you are lawful, but if you do not abide by the state laws, how you can become lawful? If you violate the laws, how you can become lawful? If you follow religion, then you must follow strictly the religious principles. And if you have no business to follow the religious principles, how you can become religious? Is it possible?</p>
<p>Guest: I understand what you're saying. You're saying you cannot do practices and commit sin, right?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. There are, in every religion, there are principles. If you don't follow them, then how you become religious? Therefore this is my question. So nobody is following religious principles at the present moment. Therefore practically there is no religion. Everything is finished. We are trying to revive. If you follow religious principle, then it doesn't matter whether you are Christian or Mohammedan or Hindu or Buddha. Then you are religious. But if you do not follow any religious principle, then how you become religious?</p>
<p>Father: Does that mean to say that you can't live a happy life without being religious?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, certainly.</p>
<p>Father: I am eons away from this whole thing because I don't believe any religion. My son knows this.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: You do not follow any religion?</p>
<p>Father: None at all. I will give philosophical discussions...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And still you are happy?</p>
<p>Father: Yes, I'm very happy. I have my moments when I'm not, of course. Basically I'm happy with my family, with my work...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Do you think your father is happy?</p>
<p>Devotee: No. (laughter)</p>
<p>Father: I don't feel very happy. (laughter) But...</p>
<p>Devotee: Prabhupāda, earlier today you were speaking in Bhāgavatam class about Ajamila and how by circumstances he fell down, and that because it wasn't intentional, Kṛṣṇa forgave him. So, but still, at one point or another, he agreed to the desires of the prostitute. So isn't that free will?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is free will, but under the point of revolver. So māyā is very strong. māyā is very strong. So when you are under the māyā's clutches, she dictates and you have to do. This is called māyā, daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā dura... ([[Vanisource:BG 7.14|BG 7.14]]), very, very strong. So mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taran... If one is staunchly Kṛṣṇa conscious, he can avoid. Otherwise not possible.</p>
<p>Ravīndra-svarūpa: But if someone purposefully sins, also that is māyā.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That may not be māyā. That is my discretion. But that is also māyā in another way, indirect way. So one must be strong in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Then he is not a victim of māyā.</p>
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