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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1975]]
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">Different planets, different position. Just like this sun planet is fiery. There is fire. Similarly, in moon planet there is fire, but it is surrounded by cold atmosphere. Therefore it is cooling.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 2, 1975, Honolulu|Morning Walk -- June 2, 1975, Honolulu]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Harikeśa: Is it possible there's some difference as to the definition of what the moon planet is? They will say that the moon planet is that planet out there. Do we agree? At night?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is your definition? First of all let me hear.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: I'm still wondering myself.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We have got our definition.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: What do we call those planets that rotate around Jupiter and Saturn and... They will say those are also moons.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Different planets, different position. Just like this sun planet is fiery. There is fire. Similarly, in moon planet there is fire, but it is surrounded by cold atmosphere. Therefore it is cooling.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: So that's the specific characteristic of this moon?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Which moon? Yes, this is...</p>
<p>Harikeśa: Our moon.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: So the other moons that rotate around Saturn and Jupiter...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Other moon? There is no other moon.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: So they're just planets?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Paramahaṁsa: The moon is not rotating around the earth. The moon is further away than the sun.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: The moon is further away than the sun. Wow! (laughs)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: Why does it seem like the moon is...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Seen? Who has seen it? First of all let me..., who has seen it? (Devotees are laughing)</p>
<p>Harikeśa: There's nothing you can say.</p>
<p>Ambarīṣa: Prabhupāda, you said the other day that pretty soon all these lies will be exposed.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They are already exposed because they have left that expedition. That means they are hopeless. That is exposed. But foolish people will not ask them that "Why you have stopped this expedition?" They will again go on bluffing, and they will accept. That is the position. Now people should ask them, "Why you have stopped moon expedition and Venus expedition? You proposed you were going there, making arrangement. Why you have stopped?" It is failure.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: They might argue...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is the argument? You have stopped. That is your failure, that's all. You can argue to the laymen, foolish men, but we will say you have stopped; therefore it is failure. All bogus propaganda is now stopped.</p>
<p>Devotee (3): They are saying the moon isn't worth develop...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now they cannot say anything because they are failure. Anything they say, that is all foolishness. They cannot say anything. Once you are failure, you have no value, anything you say.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: I've heard the argument that when they are going to the moon, they are always in contact, bouncing off these sonar waves and radar waves off the moon's surface, and when they are coming near, they can even see from their little portholes the moon's surface, the same moon that they see on the earth.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They say all nonsense. That's all. (chuckles) Why the earth is not brilliant at night like the moon?</p>
<p>Bali-mardana: It depends on where you are. It depends on where you are looking from.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: "Where you are" means?</p>
<p>Harikeśa: They have pictures from the moon taken of the earth.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Pictures? First of all you see. Then take picture. You cannot see.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: They use all these things to argue that they actually did go to the moon.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is the meaning of argument if they have stopped? That is failure. Don't talk nonsense anymore. Phalena paricīyate. By the result we have to understand. Your result is you are failure. Then what is the use of talking nonsense? Stop this nonsense.</p>
<p>Ambarīṣa: It's like five years ago they declared a war on cancer, and they spent billions and billions of dollars on it, and just the other day they now said that it was a complete failure, that the disease has just kept on growing and growing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. You cannot stop even cancer disease and you are controlling nature. Just see their (?) false, puffed up. They cannot control one disease, and they are going to control nature. We have to believe that.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: He just told me I was spaced out because I wasn't punching this in, but I'm still astounded by the fact that the moon is further away than the sun. When the devotees hear this tape, they're not going to believe it.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Therefore they could not go. I... First of all I said that they might have gone to the Rahu planet.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: Yes, the Fourth Canto.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. First of all my conviction: they have gone nowhere. They have simply stayed in their laboratory, that's all.</p>
<p>Indian man: Anyone can do that, bring some pictures and bring a rock.</p>
<p>Paramahaṁsa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, I think somebody might have told you before, but there was a big scandal right after the moon shot when they said they went to the moon and..., that it was all staged in the desert of Arizona, that they...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the fact.</p>
<p>Bali-mardana: When Puruṣottama heard that, he blooped. (Devotees continue laughing.)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. In 1968 I was questioned by the reporters, "What is your opinion about this moon?" "It is simply a waste of time and energy, that's all. It is all false propaganda." I told to the reporter.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: Actually, these scientists and philosophers, they become very famous and popular by coming up with some brand new theories. So why don't we widely publicize our theories?</p>
<p>Devotee (3): (break) ...real information about the moon from the Bhāgavatam?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Veda. Veda means knowledge. What is this? Some animal?</p>
<p>Paramahaṁsa: Fish. It has those horns, spines, so that no one can bother it. Protection.</p>
<p>Paramahaṁsa: It's a porcupine fish.</p>
<p>Bali-mardana: Blowfish.</p>
<p>Śrutakīrti: They blow up like a ball. When someone comes to them, they expand very large.</p>
<p>Paramahaṁsa: And their spines stick out straight. It's very dangerous.</p>
<p>Bali-mardana: Poisonous. (break)</p>
<p>Śrutakīrti: It's twenty-five before seven.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, do we say that they've gone to Rahu simply to placate them?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, accidentally they went to Rahu. Maybe. That is also not...</p>
<p>Indian man: (break)...gone at all outside this atmosphere of earth.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) ...haven't gone to moon planet, that is my... (break) ...why they will give it up? That is the proof. America was found by Columbus. So many people came from Europe and utilized it. So if they would have gone to moon planet, they would have utilized it. But they have not gone. That is the fact.</p>
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