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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1976]]
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">It doesn't.... The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement does not depend on any material condition, any material condition.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 20, 1976, Melbourne|Room Conversation -- April 20, 1976, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: If you want real happiness.... That I have already explained. Real happiness—to become free from the natural material laws, birth, death, old age and disease. This is real happiness. Suppose you are arranging for your happiness, and all of a sudden death comes. Then where is happiness? So how you can check? So the real impediment of our happiness is stated: birth, death, old age and disease. So if you want real happiness, then you have to first of all make arrangement that you'll not die or you'll not take birth, you'll not become old, you'll not be diseased. Just like insurance. They make insurance of life. So where is your insurance for these things? You do not want to die, but you are forced to die. Where is insurance? This is insurance, Kṛṣṇa consciousness.</p>
<p>Carol Jarvis: Insurance for what?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No more.... No more death, no more birth, no more old age, no more disease. This is insurance. And therefore it is the primary necessity for becoming happy. Otherwise you have made arrangement very nicely, and if all of a sudden you die, then where is your happiness?</p>
<p>Carol Jarvis: Do you think the type of life that your devotees must lead...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Carol Jarvis: ...is in fact a happy one, getting up very early in the morning...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, it is. It is. Just like if you are suffering from some ailments, so you have to follow some rules and regulation so that you may be cured. Do the doctor not prescribe so many things, that "You don't eat like this. You don't do this. You do this"? There are so many don't's and do's. So if you really want to become happy, you have to follow some don't's and do's.</p>
<p>Carol Jarvis: Your Divine Grace, can I ask you how old you are now?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Carol Jarvis: How old?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I am eighty years old.</p>
<p>Carol Jarvis: And do you think the Kṛṣṇa movement has helped you? Are you a fit man for an eighty year old?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: At least all my contemporaries have gone away. (laughter) All my young friends and childhood friends, there are no more existing, my relatives. And.... So I am moving still all over the world.</p>
<p>Carol Jarvis: Can you see an age that you could live until? Could you predict how long you might live?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, if.... You see, this body is so made that it must end, but before ending, you must be competently Kṛṣṇa conscious. Then, next life, you become permanent in life, in knowledge, in blissfulness. That is required.</p>
<p>Carol Jarvis: Many people find it very difficult to reconcile the spiritual way of life in the Kṛṣṇa movement with the great financial resources the movement also has. Why do you need any great financial...?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It doesn't.... The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement does not depend on any material condition, any material condition.</p>
<p>Carol Jarvis: But you make a lot of money out of the sales of your books, etc.; there is begging in the street each day.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. But there are many beggars. They do not get money. We get money. We are not beggars. We are giving books, knowledge. Do you think we are beggars?</p>
<p>Carol Jarvis: If I could use the example, perhaps, of your temple, which has a lot of very rich material things in it. I wonder what significance that plays in your spiritual life.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So what do you mean by spiritual and material? Do you know the distinction? Then I'll show you spiritual. And do you know?</p>
<p>Carol Jarvis: Well, the material...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I say that in the temple there is nothing material, all spiritual, but you have no eyes to see to it.</p>
<p>Carol Jarvis: I wonder if you could lead an equal sort of life without the richness of the temple.</p>
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