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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1977]]
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<div class="heading">We have given four times.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 2, 1977, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- November 2, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Tamāla Kṛṣṇa?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Prabhupāda.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What you are going to say?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What are we going to do? What am I going to say?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, the real factor is Your Divine Grace's desire. I mean it seems like... As your disciples, our duty is to help you fulfill your desire. It seems like your desire is to die in Vṛndāvana. But it's very hard for us to execute that service. It's very hard—because we love you—to assist you in dying. It's a paradox. You want to die in Vṛndāvana, and we want you to live, and yet we have to do whatever you want. I mean, the kavirāja, he is giving some... He feels a little confident. Probably from medical point of view, there's no doubt, he has far superior knowledge than many of us.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Viśvambhara has not yet...?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. Viśvambhara has not come yet, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I mean for the past few days you've been saying that you want to live. Now suddenly you say that you want to die. Maybe that's simply to discourage us from... Because you feel too weak now. There's so many conflicting...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: Do you understand? He's saying that "As a physician, in this condition, I wouldn't advise you to go. But if you desire to go there, then I have enough confidence in my medicine, and since you have the will, so I can assure you I can take you over there safely. Now it's up to you whether you want to go or whether you want to stay." He's saying that if you stay here for ten more days, then you'll become strong enough and you can travel. And he's willing to come back again after about a week, and then he'll stay here for a day or two and then take him.</p>
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: I think that's a good idea. Don't you, Mahārāja?</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: Śrīla Prabhupāda is saying that... Śrīla Prabhupāda wants to stay here, but we want him to take...</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He wants to stay here, that's a fact.</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is that?</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: Water intake, liquid.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: How much urine has he passed since six o'clock this morning? Six o'clock this morning?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Brahmānanda.</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: Yes, Prabhupāda?</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: Two hundred and twenty.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The whole day?</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: No, since six.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And the whole day?</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: The whole day it's 320.</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm?</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: Just translating what the doctor is saying. If there's any risk, Prabhupāda, in traveling, then you shouldn't take that risk. The doctor will come back here next week and then we can see.</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: In the morning the symptom was that.</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: He's saying, from the treatment point of view, it's best if Śrīla Prabhupāda stays here for ten more days.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Tell him that the only reason we had any reservation about that was because if some side effect develops, then he is not here to help, and we have to take the help of this other person, who we do not trust.</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: He's saying that now his medicine started working. So he'll give one day's medicine, and he's confident that that medicine will work.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: One day's?</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: Seven days. And apart from that, he's saying that that boy, he has got confidence in him that whatever instruction he gives, he will follow. He is going to follow that, not like other physicians. He wouldn't try to administer his own medicine.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, but supposing there's a symptom which he has not predicted at this time?</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: He says that nothing will happen. He's saying that the main thing... He found out the main defect in the body. He's saying that if anything is wrong, then we can ring him up and he'll come immediately.</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Indian man (1): Next time, when he comes, make arrangement to stay for a long time.</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: Say, at least about a week, so that he can stay here for about a week. This time he came absolutely unprepared.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Turn me this way.</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Svarūpa Dāmodara is here, Śrīla Prabhupāda.</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Bhakti-caru: Mahārāja, do you have the urine report?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Can you go in my file under "M"? There's a folder, an envelope, a big envelope.</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: He said that...</p>
<p>Indian man (1): Prabhupāda should not speak to anybody.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Should not speak to anybody. Well that's all right with me, but whether Śrīla Prabhupāda...</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Don't allow guests.</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What about this parikrama? Prabhupāda feels that that must go on.</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Indian man (1): If he insists on going on parikrama, he can give a special medicine.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's pretty insistent.</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So is this all right, Śrīla Prabhupāda?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is that?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That we'll wait here for another week to ten days, and Shastriji will give us medicine. The kavirāja will give us medicine, and you can take it for another week or so. After a week's time he'll come back, and then, after a few days, he'll take you to Māyāpur.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: At least at present this decision will be good.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This decision is good. He says that you should not do so much talking, Śrīla Prabhupāda.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I'll not talk.</p>
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: For about ten days.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I've never seen this possible, though. (laughter) You always speak of Kṛṣṇa. That is your life and soul, śravaṇaṁ kīrtanam. He says if you insist on going on parikrama, then he will give you a little medicine which will help you.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Parikrama must be there.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: All right.</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi)</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Four times? That's all right. Three times around, into the temple, and one more time. That will be nice. Four times. Is that all right? Will that be all right, Śrīla Prabhupāda?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We have given four times.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We're doing a lot more than four now. We do about ten. Smara-hari knows because he carries you. (laughs) So then we'll make this program, Śrīla Prabhupāda? And you should keep making the effort, Śrīla Prabhupāda, to get better. Kṛṣṇa may desire for you to get better, Śrīla Prabhupāda. At least it is our duty to pray like that.</p>
<p>Kavirāja: (Hindi) Telephone... (Hindi) ...any time.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Tamāla Kṛṣṇa?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So... In Bengali there is such thing, "When you hesitate, don't do it."</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, we also sometimes feel that when there's a hesitation, it seems like the Supersoul is giving indication.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But he has not also come? Hm?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bhagatji?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He has not come yet.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So when he will come?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, I am also beginning to wonder. He was supposed to come by at least four or five o'clock. I'm sure he'll have a good reason, but until he comes I cannot speculate on why he's late.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It will be late. The other person, whether they will come at night?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, that's probably why he is late, because they would only come at night. That's my... Last time this was also done at about this time, Śrīla Prabhupāda. These men work all day in the court, and they can't come until the evening.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And suppose he does not come?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, if he does not come, then I'll have to find out why he didn't come.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And then you will have to postpone. They'll have to postpone.</p>
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