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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1976]]
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<div class="heading">No, animal means the four-legged animals. Vegetables are not called animals, even in dictionary.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Clergymen -- June 15, 1976, Detroit|Conversation with Clergymen -- June 15, 1976, Detroit]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Do you have the passage there?</p>
<p>Jayādvaita: Yes. "Persons who have acted piously in previous lives and in this life, whose sinful actions are completely eradicated and who are freed from the duality of delusion, engage themselves in My service with determination."</p>
<p>Scheverman: Yes, we too see sin as an obstacle to communication and relationship with the Lord God.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Read the purport.</p>
<p>Scheverman: In fact, we define sin as that which separates us from the friendship of God.</p>
<p>Rakṣaṇa: So that means following God's instructions, such as "Thou shalt not kill," right?</p>
<p>Jayādvaita: This is the purport. "Those eligible for elevation to the transcendental position are mentioned in this verse. For those who are sinful, atheistic, foolish and deceitful, it is very difficult to transcend the duality of desire and hate. Only those who have passed their lives in practicing the regulative principles of religion, who have acted piously and have conquered sinful reactions can accept devotional service and gradually rise to the pure knowledge of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Then, gradually, they can meditate in trance on the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That is the process of being situated on the spiritual platform. This elevation is possible in Kṛṣṇa consciousness in the association of pure devotees who can deliver one from delusion. It is stated in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam that if one actually wants to be liberated, he must render service to the devotees; but one who associates with materialistic people is on the path leading to the darkest region of existence. All the devotees of the Lord traverse this earth just to recover the conditioned souls from their delusion. The impersonalists do not know that forgetting their constitutional position as subordinate to the Supreme Lord is the greatest violation of God's law. Unless one is reinstated in his own constitutional position, it is not possible to understand the Supreme Personality or to be fully engaged in His transcendental loving service with determination."</p>
<p>Scheverman: Yes, we can certainly agree with that.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So, we have to teach people how to refrain from sinful activities. Then, when he's pure, then God will reveal. If we keep them in sinful life, at the same time we want to preach them, it will not be possible. In the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is said that those who are animal killer, they cannot understand about God. Vinā paśu-ghnāt. So if in the human society unnecessary animal killing is encouraged, he will never be able to understand what is God. The greatest sinful activity, paśu-ghnāt. So in human society, unnecessarily animal killing is going on. So they are entangled in sinful activities; therefore they are unable to understand what is God.</p>
<p>Kern: Are you speaking specifically about all animal killing, Your Excellency? Or, how do you speak of animal killing? In other words, vegetarian living, is that what you're speaking of?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, animal means the four-legged animals. Vegetables are not called animals, even in dictionary.</p>
<p>Kern: Does the group live a vegetarian life, without any meat? Is that what you're saying?</p>
<p>Scheverman: I see. That's a basic principle of your way of life, is not eating any meat, any flesh.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: The verse..., I think there is no Bhāgavata here. The Second Canto, I think, it is said,</p>
:nivṛtta-tarṣair upagīyamānād
:bhavauṣadhāc chrotra-mano-'bhirāmāt
:ka uttamaśloka guṇānuvādāt
:pumān virajyeta vinā paśu-ghnāt
:([[Vanisource:SB 10.1.4|SB 10.1.4]])
<p>The glorification of the Lord is done by the liberated persons. It is so nice, glorification of the Lord. So who can refrain from the glorification of the Lord unless he is animal killer? It is said there.</p>
<p>Kern: The origin of the group, where...? Who was the original founder, Your Excellency? The original founder of the group?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Which group?</p>
<p>Kern: This group, your group, Kṛṣṇa movement.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I am the founder, I am the founder.</p>
<p>Kern: You founded it.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: In 1966.</p>
<p>Scheverman: 1966. And you utilized the traditions of oriental, especially Indian origin.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This book, this book. We are presenting Bhagavad-gītā as it is.</p>
<p>Scheverman: So this is a collection of the ancient writings as well as modern writings that reflect the way of life.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is the summary of all Vedic literature.</p>
<p>Kern: Of what kind of literature?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Vedic.</p>
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