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[[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]]
[[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1977]]
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<div class="heading">Yes. Hindus, I do... The trustees appoint. And when trustees are going to retire, he should nominate his own person.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation Pieces -- May 27, 1977, Vrndavana|Conversation Pieces -- May 27, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Girirāja: This morning you gave the hint that there might be envious persons coming to take away our properties, so in the GBC meeting we discussed this point, that... A committee of us six was made to resolve this. So basically what we did is we made a model trust deed which can be used for all of the Indian properties. There may be three trustees for each property. And the basic point of the trust deed is that the property rests with these trustees and that they have no right to sell or mortgage or dispose of the property in any way. That is the basic point. And then we have proposed three trustees for each of the properties. So...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But there will be finally the trustees. And there may be one advisory board to... Pick up some friends and make an advisory board. They are not final. Final is trustee. Anything to be done should be considered first of all by the advisory board, and then if it should be sanctioned by the trustees, then it can be done. So some friends, we can make an advisory...</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Some sympathizers and friends.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Local...</p>
<p>Yaśomatīnandana: Local citizens?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Local citizens.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Hindus, I do... The trustees appoint. And when trustees are going to retire, he should nominate his own person.</p>
<p>Jayatīrtha: We've included that in the closure of the will.</p>
<p>Jayapatākā: So the trustees should be managing on behalf of ISKCON.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So after making finally, we consult with that Mr. Sharma. He'll make some clarification. Gargamuni knows. He'll make it final.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's a trust lawyer. He specializes in this.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh. Then make it final. That's all.</p>
<p>Girirāja: So if you'd like, Rāmeśvara Mahārāja can read what we've drafted.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: This is based on the BBT Trust document that you wrote many years ago, the same idea almost. "I, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, Founder-Ācārya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, disciple of Oṁ Viṣṇupāda 108 Śrī Śrīmad Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Gosvāmī Mahārāja Prabhupāda, and we, the members of the Bureau of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, hereby give and transfer the properties and all the property rights incidental thereto, as hereinafter described, to the following persons as trustees in trust for purposes hereinafter stated and to be administered in accordance with the provisions hereinafter set forth." And there are five different trusts. The first one is for Māyāpur, and the proposed trustees are Jayapatākā Mahārāja, Bhavānanda Mahārāja and Gopāla Kṛṣṇa. The second one is for Bombay, and the proposed trustees are Tamāla Kṛṣṇa Mahārāja, Girirāja and Gopāla Kṛṣṇa. The third one is for Vṛndāvana, and the proposed trustees are Akṣayānanda Swami, Gopāla Kṛṣṇa and Viśvambhara.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Viśvambhara is not our regular disciple.</p>
<p>Jayapatākā: Shouldn't be included.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then he has to accept sannyāsa from me.</p>
<p>Jayatīrtha: Jaya.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He should know...</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Become initiated.</p>
<p>Jayapatākā: Trustee must be initiated disciple.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: If he is seen... He could be on the advisory board.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, you can say that "If you take sannyāsa, you become on this."</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So we'll talk to him, and if he says no, then we'll select another person and come back and tell you who our choice is.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, we have got already.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: The fourth trust is for Haridaspur, and the proposed trustees are Jayapatākā Swami...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is subsection of Māyāpur.</p>
<p>Jayapatākā: Subsection of Māyāpur.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: So that should just be the Māyāpur trustees.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It is a section of Māyāpur.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: Then the last one is for Bhuvaneśvara.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But what about Hyderabad?</p>
<p>Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That we have already made as trust.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Gopāla Kṛṣṇa Prabhu informed us that there is already a trust created for Hyderabad, so there's no need of our creating any other.</p>
<p>Indian devotee (2): Hyderabad, Ahmedabad and Hyderabad farm, we have got already trust.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We didn't want to duplicate anything.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Since there was already a trust. Bhuvaneśvara, there is property but not trust, so we thought that it was worthy of forming a trust.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: So for Bhuvaneśvara it is proposed that Gaura-Govinda Swami, Jayapatākā Swami and Bhāgavata dāsa...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That's all right.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: And then the trust document names them and then it goes on. "1. Trust Fund."</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is there a name confirming?</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: That's coming up. "The properties which shall constitute the trust fund and will hereinafter be called the trust properties shall include the following, hereinafter listed." Then for each trust there is a complete listing of the property, the temple and the Deities, a legal listing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Inventory.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: Inventory, yes, inventory. Then "Section 2: Name of the Trust. This trust shall be known by the name..." So for each trust there's a different name. For Māyāpur it is proposed, "Śrī Māyāpur Chandrodaya Mandir Trust." For Bombay, "Śrī-Śrī-Rādhā-Rāsa-Vihārījī Temple Trust," for Vṛndāvana, "Śrī-Śrī-Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma Mandir Trust," and that will include the Gurukula. For Bhuvaneśvara, "Śrī-Śrī-Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma Bhuvaneśvara Trust." It goes on to say, "In so far as possible, the trustees shall conduct the trust activities in that name. Section 3: The Purpose of the Trust. This trust is created and shall be operated exclusively for fulfilling the aims and objects of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness as per the memorandum of association. ISKCON is registered as a society under the Society Act of 1860, and is registered as a public charitable trust. We direct that no part of this trust shall inure to the benefit of any private individual, and no part of the activities of this trust shall consist of participating in or intervening in any political campaign on behalf of any candidate for public office." Then "Section 4: The Use of the Trust. Irrevocably, the properties, the temple and the Deities thereupon and all other holdings of the trust shall never be mortgaged, borrowed against, sold, transferred..."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Stole?</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: "Sold."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Sold.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: "...or any way shall the ownership or the assets of the trust be alienated or disposed of. This clause cannot be revoked or amended under any circumstance. Section 5: Management of the Trust. The trustees who have herein been designated are appointed for life. In the event of the death or failure to act for any reason of any of the said trustees a successor trustee or trustees may be appointed by the remaining trustees, with never less than three or more than five trustees acting at one time."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And the majority decision should be always accepted.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: The last section is called "The Term of the Trust." "This trust shall be irrevocable. In the advent of an inadvertent disqualification of this trust under the laws as they may exist from time to time, which may require a dissolution of the trust, the entire trust holdings shall in that event be distributed to the International Society for Krishna Consciousness." Then, following that, there's a page which says, "In witness whereof, we have executed this trust on this day," and it has a place for your signature as Founder-Ācārya of ISKCON, then another signature of Your Divine Grace as the chairman of the Bureau of ISKCON, and then a signature of Girirāja as a member of the Bureau of ISKCON. Then, on the last page, the acceptance of the trust. And it says, "The trustees hereby accept this trust and the obligations imposed thereby and undertake to hold, manage and administer the trust in accordance with the terms of this agreement." And it has a place for the three signatures of the three trustees.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I think it is all right. It is all right. Bring this typed. Make everything. That's all right.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: This will make it impossible for anyone to cheat.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, as far as I can see, finished. Yes. Jaya.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Now the next group will come, Śrīla Prabhupāda, for kīrtana.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.</p>
<p>Devotees: Jaya Śrīla Prabhupāda. (break)</p>
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