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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="ConversationwithMrWadellJuly101973London_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="36" link="Conversation with Mr. Wadell -- July 10, 1973, London" link_text="Conversation with Mr. Wadell -- July 10, 1973, London">
<div class="heading">Withdraw my intellect means I have given you the intellect that "You do like this." but you are persistent, doing otherwise, "All right, as you like, you do." This is withdrawal.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Mr. Wadell -- July 10, 1973, London|Conversation with Mr. Wadell -- July 10, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: First of all you say that God has given you the intellect. He can withdraw it also.</p>
<p>Mr. Wadell: Well, we say not, because...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Why not? If He has given, He can withdraw also.</p>
<p>Mr. Wadell: Oh, I don't... Well, we have a rather strange view of God...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, you may have strange view. We are arguing. As soon as you say God has given you intellect, He can withdraw also your intellect.</p>
<p>Mr. Wadell: But you see, what we have also to explain—why all men are not good. Now, if God chose, He could force all men to be good, but that is not the way.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, God has given you intellect to become good, but because you disobey God, you have become bad.</p>
<p>Mr. Wadell: But if God is all-powerful and He cared to use His power...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, He does not interfere with your little independence.</p>
<p>Mr. Wadell: This is the point which you were trying to...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Just like in the Bhagavad-gītā God says that "You surrender unto Me." That means, "If you like, you surrender." God is not forcing, "you must." He is not forcing.</p>
<p>Mr. Wadell: Well, that's exactly what I meant. We are agreed. And...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So that He does not do. Otherwise, otherwise, there is no meaning of being part and parcel of God. God is fully independent, and we are minute part of God. Therefore we have got independence. That independence is minute, but there is. So if God interferes with your independence, then you are no longer part and parcel of God. Therefore God says that "You do this." Now, I misuse my independence. I do not do it. Therefore I am bad.</p>
<p>Mr. Wadell: Our positions do not differ on this point. We think exactly the same.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. We do not do it. Just like your father says, "My dear son, do like this," but you disobey. Therefore you are bad son. So my badness is creation of my misuse of independence.</p>
<p>Mr. Wadell: Yes. But it may not be entirely willful.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Because God has given you the intelligence, and as I said, He can withdraw. Just like the same thing: The father said, "My dear son, do like this." But he is persisting in doing otherwise.</p>
<p>Mr. Wadell: Yes, and for the same reason that He would not force, would therefore, for the same reason, not withdraw my intellect, having given it to me.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that is stated, that is stated, that is stated. Just like I... Withdraw my intellect means I have given you the intellect that "You do like this." but you are persistent, doing otherwise, "All right, as you like, you do." This is withdrawal.</p>
<p>Mr. Wadell: Oh, yes, but one may be...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There is no force. There is no force.</p>
<p>Mr. Wadell: No, no. But what I want to go back to is the reason for disobedience. There are various possible ones. One may first not know what one is supposed to do. Secondly... Is that all right? Do you agree about that?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. We do not know anything. We are to be considered all fools and rascals. That is our position. As soon as we come to this material world, accept a material body, we are all fools and rascals.</p>
<p>Mr. Wadell: Do you accept the whole of the material world? Do you think there are some things in it which are wrong?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Just like as soon as you come to the prison house, you are all criminals. You may be very intelligent, but because you are in the prison house, you are criminal. Because you are in the prison house, that is the proof that you are a criminal. You may be very intelligent man.</p>
<p>Mr. Wadell: Oh yes, I'm not claiming... I haven't any claim to goodness. You must understand that.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Similarly, any living entity, any living entity who is originally part and parcel of God, God is all-good, therefore the part and parcel of God is also all-good. But as soon as comes to the material world, he (break) As exactly like the same, that as soon as one is put into the prison wall, within, he is a criminal. Now he has to undergo the criminal laws. Similarly, because we have come to this material world, we have to undergo the material tribulations. We cannot avoid.</p>
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