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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div class="heading">For Kṛṣṇa there is no external, internal. You cannot understand this. Kṛṣṇa is absolute. For me there is external, internal, but for Kṛṣṇa there is no external, internal because His energy... The external energy is also His energy, and internal is His energy. Therefore He's everything.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk Excerpts -- May 1, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk Excerpts -- May 1, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Kāma is the basic principle of material life. That is explained in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Puṁsāṁ striyā mithunī-bhāvam etad: "Both men and women, they are attracted in this material world for this sex life." Mithunī-bhāvam etad. Tayor mithaḥ. They are... Now, just see in this beach. They are coming all dressed, and the man is attracting woman; woman is attracting man. This is business, going on here.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: You are really... Oscar Wilde has written once...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, this is the fact. We can see it. We can see it. That's all. Everywhere the same business. In the Western world they are becoming more and more naked. You see? Mini, miniskirt.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: What they call it?</p>
<p>Bhāgavata: Streaking.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: No, no, no. What is that called, costume?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Topless. Topless.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Topless and bottomless.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: These things are going on. That means they are attracted. Attracted. Puṁsāṁ striyā mithunī-bhāvam etad. They'll dress. Woman will dress very nicely so that she can attract man, and man will also do something which will, he'll attract woman. Mithunī-bhāvam tayor mitha... In this way, when they are united-hṛdāya-granthim āhuḥ, a very strong knot: "Oh, you are mine. I am yours." (laughter) "You are mine. I am yours." In this way they pull on this material life. And then, gradually, "Now we must have good apartment to live and enjoy sex life." Puṁsāṁ striyā mithunī-bhāvam etad tayor mithaḥ hṛdāya-granthim āhuḥ, tathā gṛha. "Now have skyscraper building." Kṣetra: "Land. We must produce food grains." Tathā gṛha-kṣetra-suta: "We must have children."</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: No, but according to the Taittiriya Upaniṣad...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, this is... This is the material life.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: That's right. You are right.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is material... Tathā gṛha-kṣetra-sutāpta. Apta: friends. I must show: "Just see how I have got big house, nice wife, good bank balance. Come and see. And just glorify me, 'Oh, you are very successful. Although you are going to be dog next life.' " This is going on. Atho gṛha-kṣetra-sutāpta-vitta janasya moho 'yam. This is illusion. This is illusion. Janasya moho 'yam ahaṁ mameti: ([[Vanisource:SB 5.5.8|SB 5.5.8]]) "Now I am such and such big man, minister." That's all. And he's... The minister is going to be dog next life. You see? That he does not know. Prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni guṇaiḥ karmā... ([[Vanisource:BG 3.27|BG 3.27]]).</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: I don't think they should be dog, become dog. They should become hogs.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, dog or hog, but the same. There is no much difference. Śva-viḍ-varāhoṣṭra-kharaiḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 2.3.19|SB 2.3.19]]). These animals have been especially mentioned. Śva means dog, and viḍ-varāha means hog. Śva viḍ-varā...</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Viḍ-varāha: "dirty eating hog."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Vit. Vit means stool. Śva-viḍ-varāha-uṣṭra. Uṣṭra means camel, and khara means ass. So these gṛhamedhīs they have been described as the śva, viḍ-varāha, uṣṭra, khara. Bhāgavata is very strong (laughs) in criticizing. Therefore in the beginning it is said, dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavo atra: ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.2|SB 1.1.2]]) "All types of cheating religion is rejected." Dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavo atra. Kaitava means cheating. Śrīdhara Swāmī, he has... Paramo nirmatsarāṇāṁ: "This Bhāgavata is meant for paramo nirmatsarāṇāṁ, those who are above this material existence, paramahaṁsas." Bhāgavata is not meant for ordinary men.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Who can make a distinction between milk and water.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. No, no, means he accepts only the milk, not the water. Similarly, this whole world is mixture of spirit and matter, so he rejects matter; he takes only spirit. That is paramahaṁsa. Go on.</p>
<p>Girirāja: "Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura points out that according to Bhagavad-gītā, the Brahmā day and the Brahmā night are periods of solar years expanding 4,300,000 multiplied by one thousand..." (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Four, I think. This one?</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: Yes, 747. Jumbo.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It is 447, yes. (break)</p>
<p>Bhāgavata: ...celebrate.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: The celebration is you have to fast day and night and four times offer worship to the Lord Śiva.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: And drink bhang also.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, that is not recommended. But they can do... They do all now...</p>
<p>Bhāgavata: So we should observe this festival, Śrīla Prabhupāda?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Not necessarily.</p>
<p>Bhāgavata: Not necessary.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Go on. (break) ...Tirupati. These rascals are getting money and investing for television.</p>
<p>Indian man (2): Industry.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: You see? They should have given to us for distributing Kṛṣṇa consciousness all..., but these rascals will not do that.</p>
<p>Indian man (3): "In the Vedic scriptures, therefore, one is recommended to give charity to a brāhmaṇa."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Because they are not brāhmaṇa. All śūdras, Communist.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Janma jāyate śūdraḥ.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Especially, especially that Andhra government is Communist government.</p>
<p>Indian man (3): "And by so doing, one pleases Lord Viṣṇu and all the demigods. The pilgrims take bath, worship the Deity and give in charity. They are also recommended to fast one day." (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...that after attaining human form of body he is not degraded.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: That is wrong.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It is wrong.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Kathopaniṣad says that (Sanskrit). People according to their...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, karma.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: ...knowledge and according to their karma, even they become these trees.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Indian man (3): "Vidyadhara himself says that even though he was a demigod, he was condemned to become a serpent. But because he was touched by the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa, he immediately came to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. He admitted, however, that in his previous life he was actually sinful." (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...observing Śiva-rātri, Nanda Mahārāja and all the cowherds men, they increased their attachment for Kṛṣṇa. That is wanted.</p>
<p>Pancadravida: "After this incident, on a very pleasant night both Kṛṣṇa and His elder brother Balarāma, who are inconceivably powerful, went into the forest of Vṛndāvana." (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: "Dressing is artificial. It is not required. Yes. This naked body is very nice." (break) No, you don't... You cannot be naga-bābā. That is not good. (break) If one is not Kṛṣṇa conscious, all these rascaldom becomes charming. When one is Kṛṣṇa conscious these things does not appeal.</p>
<p>Pancadravida: "Kṛṣṇa's transcendental form, quali..." (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Law is there. (break) ...speak in all language, even in the animal, birds' language. Babudaka.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Keśi-nisūdana.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Keśi-nisūdana.</p>
<p>Yadubara: "Keśi rushed toward with Lord with great..." (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...control his mouth.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: This (indistinct) practically amongst all the, I mean, animals, lower and higher. There are demons who are against. Even horse, even birds, even snake. Eh?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.</p>
<p>Yadubara: "As soon as Keśi reached Him..." (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...was not so cheap. He had to pay proper price.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: In Europe also they were eloping away, these girls.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Europeans, they are also coming from kṣatriya family.</p>
<p>Yadubara: "I shall also see how You..." (break) "...your internal potency You have set up the influence of māyā." That is part of the internal potency?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm? Yes. What is your question?</p>
<p>Yadubara: Well, I thought it was the external potency.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: For Him there is no external, internal. For Kṛṣṇa there is no external, internal. You cannot understand this. Kṛṣṇa is absolute. For me there is external, internal, but for Kṛṣṇa there is no external, internal because His energy... The external energy is also His energy, and internal is His energy. Therefore He's everything. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. (Hindi) For electrician there is no difference between refrigerator and heater. He knows how to adjust it. For me, this is heater; this is refrigerator. Like that.</p>
<p>Yadubara: "You have taken your birth in the Yadu dynasty..." (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...says, ātma-māyayā. Ātma-māyayā, His own energy. So the material energy and the spiritual, both of them, are His energy. So even if He appears in a material body, it does not act as material body. It act as spiritual body. Just like same example: The expert electrician, he can turn the refrigerator into heater. Is it not? That is the way. Hare Kṛṣṇa. For Him there is nothing, no distinction, because He is absolute. Similarly, to take the side of the devotee and to kill the enemy of Kṛṣṇa, they are all the same.</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: Inside of the devotee?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Or to kill the demon, that is His mercy. Both of them. It is not that materially, as we think, "Oh, Kṛṣṇa is taking side of this man and killing this man." No. Still, He is neutral, absolute.</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: The sahajiyās, they don't know that.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Eh?</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: Sahajiyās, they just go towards like the rasa-līlā, and they avoid the demon killing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Who?</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: The sahajiyās.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh, they are rascals. Kick them out. They think everything is easy.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: What is sahajiyā?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Sahajiyā... Sahaj means easy. Easy-going. They will smoke cigarette at the same time they will play rasa-līlā. This is sahajiyā. This is sahajiyā. They will do all nonsense; still, they will become God, imitation of God.</p>
<p>Yadubara: "Nārada Muni wanted to impress upon people in general that Kṛṣṇa is fully independent. His activities such as His appearance..." (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He played also. (Hindi) We used to say chor chor kela: "Catch up the feet." (Hindi) (break) ...and wonderful things, as they are mentioned, they were all manufactured by the demons.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: māyā.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, these wonderful scientific advancement, they were done by the demons. So they are demons. These so-called scientist, they re all demons.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Palace of Pāṇḍavas were constructed by māyā.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: So they were all engineers.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, engineer. Engineer are also demons, but he is no longer demon. Now doctors are demon. (laughter) Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break) ...land only for this beach.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: But you are going away.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, I am... (Dr. Patel laughs) I am here. (break) Very soon. (break) Living entities are there in the sand. How do they say there is no life in the moon? I cannot understand. What they are eating within the sand?</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Not that, but our definition of life is, I mean, not really complete. It is not complete. We mean... Life means anything which, I mean, which breathes, which beats. That is all humbug. Everything is life, to tell the truth.</p>
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