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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam" class="section" sec_index="1" parent="compilation" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam"><h2>Srimad-Bhagavatam</h2>
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<div id="SB_Canto_3" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 3"><h3>SB Canto 3</h3>
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<div id="SB3921_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="330" link="SB 3.9.21" link_text="SB 3.9.21">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.9.21|SB 3.9.21, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Impersonalists always think backwards. They think that because there is form in matter, spirit should be formless; because in matter there is sleep, in spirit there cannot be sleep; and because the sleeping of the Deity is accepted in arcanā worship, the arcanā is māyā. All these thoughts are basically material. To think either positively or negatively is still thinking materially. Knowledge accepted from the superior source of the Vedas is standard. Here in these verses of the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, we find that arcanā is recommended. Before Brahmā took up the task of creation, he found the Lord sleeping on the serpent bed in the waves of the water of devastation. Therefore, sleeping exists in the internal potency of the Lord, and this is not denied by pure devotees of the Lord like Brahmā and his disciplic succession. It is clearly said here that the Lord slept very happily within the violent waves of the water, manifesting thereby that He is able to do anything and everything by His transcendental will and not be hampered by any circumstances.</p>
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<div id="SB32036_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="799" link="SB 3.20.36" link_text="SB 3.20.36">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.20.36|SB 3.20.36, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The demons observed beautiful gestures in the woman's every step. Here they praise her full-grown breasts, her scattered hair and her movements in stepping forward and backward while playing with the ball. In every step they enjoy her womanly beauty, and while they enjoy her beauty their minds become agitated by sex desire. As moths at night surround a fire and are killed, so the demons become victims of the movements of the ball-like breasts of a beautiful woman. The scattered hair of a beautiful woman also afflicts the heart of a lusty demon.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_5" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 5"><h3>SB Canto 5</h3>
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<div id="SB52116_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_5" book="SB" index="556" link="SB 5.21.16" link_text="SB 5.21.16">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 5.21.16|SB 5.21.16, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Although Aruṇadeva sits in front of the sun-god and is engaged in driving the chariot and controlling the horses, he looks backward toward the sun-god.</p>
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<div id="SB_Cantos_1014_to_12_Translations_Only" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Cantos 10.14 to 12 (Translations Only)"><h3>SB Cantos 10.14 to 12 (Translations Only)</h3>
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<div id="SB104125_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Cantos_10.14_to_12_(Translations_Only)" book="SB" index="968" link="SB 10.41.25" link_text="SB 10.41.25">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 10.41.25|SB 10.41.25, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Some of the ladies put their clothes and ornaments on backwards, others forgot one of their earrings or ankle bells, and others applied makeup to one eye but not the other.</p>
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<div id="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" class="section" sec_index="3" parent="compilation" text="Other Books by Srila Prabhupada"><h2>Other Books by Srila Prabhupada</h2>
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<div id="Renunciation_Through_Wisdom" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" text="Renunciation Through Wisdom"><h3>Renunciation Through Wisdom</h3>
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<div id="RTW41_0" class="quote" parent="Renunciation_Through_Wisdom" book="OB" index="33" link="RTW 4.1" link_text="Renunciation Through Wisdom 4.1">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:RTW 4.1|Renunciation Through Wisdom 4.1]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The only result of such an attempt, which naturally confuses them, is that they become rooted to the misunderstanding that man is God and vice versa, thus clearing their way to hell. A few among them may have a moment's glimpse of transcendence, but end up concluding everything backwards. They fall prey to the erroneous impersonal principle.</p>
<p>To refute this impersonal conception of the Absolute, the previously quoted verse from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam unequivocally states that the Absolute Truth is a person. This transcendental personality is so powerful that He could impart the knowledge of the Vedas even to Lord Brahmā, who then went on to create the material universe. Lord Brahmā did not receive this extraordinary Vedic knowledge after creation but before he began the work of creation.</p>
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG211EdinburghJuly161972_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="47" link="Lecture on BG 2.11 -- Edinburgh, July 16, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.11 -- Edinburgh, July 16, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.11 -- Edinburgh, July 16, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.11 -- Edinburgh, July 16, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This Kṛṣṇa philosophy, Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, is to teach people to understand what is the constitutional position of the living entity. Here it is said that one who is learned, he does not lament either for the living or for the dead body. (aside:) They should be removed from the front range. They should be removed, they should go backwards. (pause) The present civilization is based on the bodily concept of life: "I am this body." "I am Indian," "I am American," "I am Hindu," "I am Muslim," "I am black," "I am white," and so on. The whole civilization is going on on this bodily concept of life. Although there is advancement of learning, many universities and educational institutions, but nowhere this subject matter is discussed or taught, "What I am." Rather, they're still more misled by giving them education that "You are born in this land. You must feel for your nation, you must act for your nation," or the so-called nationality is taught. But nobody is taught actually what he is.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB7610VrndavanaDecember121975_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="765" link="Lecture on SB 7.6.10 -- Vrndavana, December 12, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.6.10 -- Vrndavana, December 12, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.6.10 -- Vrndavana, December 12, 1975|Lecture on SB 7.6.10 -- Vrndavana, December 12, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So here is one condemnation, that taskaraḥ, sevakaḥ and vaṇik. Similarly, there is another verse in Bhagavad-gītā, striyaḥ vaiśya tathā śūdra. So stri śūdra quality, vaṇik quality, they are very backwards. So here it is said, sneha-pāśair dṛḍhair baddham. Professor Marshall, he has given reason for economic development: the family affection. Unless one has got family affection, he is not interested in money. So therefore I sometimes say that these hippies, they are little advanced because they have no affection for family and they have no affection for money also. This is... In the other way, these are good qualification: no interest, no affection. Everyone is working on account of family affection, sneha-pāśair. He has got wife and children, and he requires money to make the family happy. So..., and for maintaining the family, he requires money. Ato gṛheṣu sutāpta-vittair janasya moho 'yam.</p>
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<div id="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Lectures" text="Nectar of Devotion Lectures"><h3>Nectar of Devotion Lectures</h3>
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionCalcuttaJanuary251973_0" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="41" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 25, 1973" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 25, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 25, 1973|The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 25, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Everyone is busy. And we, if our men approach, then they think it is simply waste of time. "All right. They're asking something. Give them some money. Let them go away, and let my business be done nicely." So this is the propensities observed (by) Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura: jaḍa-vidyā saba māyāra vaibhava. The more we advance in material civilization, we become backward in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Our principle is, therefore, to minimize the artificial necessities of life, as much as possible. Nirbandhe kṛṣṇa-sambandhe. Anāsaktasya viṣayān. We should eat, sleep, not for material comfort. But eating is required. Without eating, we cannot live. Sleeping is required, to give rest for some time. For that purpose, we shall eat, sleep... Nirbandha kṛṣṇa-sambandhe. Anāsaktasya viṣayān. We should not be attached. That will make our spiritual progress firm. Yes.</p>
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<div id="Philosophy_Discussions" class="sub_section" sec_index="13" parent="Lectures" text="Philosophy Discussions"><h3>Philosophy Discussions</h3>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononBFSkinnerandHenryDavidThoreau_0" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="58" link="Philosophy Discussion on B. F. Skinner and Henry David Thoreau" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on B. F. Skinner and Henry David Thoreau">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on B. F. Skinner and Henry David Thoreau|Philosophy Discussion on B. F. Skinner and Henry David Thoreau]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: If he..., if one cannot control himself, how he will control the world? How it is possible?</p>
<p>Devotee: Backwards.</p>
<p>Hayagrīva: Ultimately he feels that man has no duty. "It is reasonable to look forward to a time when man will seldom have anything to do, although he may show interest, imagination and productivity."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Imagination, if he thinks like that, that our society will be perfect on imagination, then what he can say? This is childish. That is going on practically. Everyone is coming, a leader like him, and he is trying to make some followers of his own imagination. That is going on.</p>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1969_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1969 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1969 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="PrabhupadaListeningtoRecordingofHisOwnRoomConversationwithStudentsApril251969Boston_0" class="quote" parent="1969_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="8" link="Prabhupada Listening to Recording of His Own Room Conversation with Students -- April 25, 1969, Boston" link_text="Prabhupada Listening to Recording of His Own Room Conversation with Students -- April 25, 1969, Boston">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Prabhupada Listening to Recording of His Own Room Conversation with Students -- April 25, 1969, Boston|Prabhupada Listening to Recording of His Own Room Conversation with Students -- April 25, 1969, Boston]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Student (2): When you've got that... (inaudible) ...Kṛṣṇa consciousness, and then you become unconscious, and then you become conscious, and then you become unconscious. And it extended like that, backwards and forwards, for five minutes. Is that Vedic?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is that? Unconscious? You are unconscious or you answer?</p>
<p>Student (2): I have read and thought that...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: To become unconscious.</p>
<p>Student (2): ...that God, the force who made everything and more in this (inaudible)..., in making this, (inaudible)...playing a game. And you play a game by playing hide and seek. The whole point of the game is that someone is hidden from you.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There is nothing hide and seek here. It is all open. Yes?</p>
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkAtCheviotHillsGolfCourseMay151973LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="29" link="Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course -- May 15, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course -- May 15, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course -- May 15, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course -- May 15, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, no, why Indians? We are talking of the whole world. Why you take the example of the Indians? Indians may be backward. We are talking of you, so forward. What you have done? Indians may be backward. We are not talking of any particular nation or particular people. We are talking of general people, people in general. India, why bring India?</p>
<p>Umāpati: Well, it's the popular opinion over here that Indians are...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, why do you bring? This is another foolishness. Why do you bring India? What you have done first of all, sir?</p>
<p>Umāpati: Well, I am not doing this.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No no, you are your men. Those who are not Indian.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkAtCheviotHillsGolfCourseMay151973LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="29" link="Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course -- May 15, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course -- May 15, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course -- May 15, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course -- May 15, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: (break) ...transmigration of soul. Suppose this time I am very great scientist, and next life I become a tree like this. What is my advancement? Stand up for ten thousand years. What is the advancement?</p>
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Going backwards.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Going to hell, that's all. You are trying to be naked; nature will say, "Yes, you stand here naked for ten thousand years." Yes. That is the punishment for being naked. Human life is not meant for becoming naked. That is according to Vedic civilization a great sin. You see. So their, their propensity they are increasing to become naked like our George... What's his name? Lennon, Lennon. So next time he is going to be tree, stand up. Otherwise wherefrom the trees come? They cannot explain. You become tree. That's all. Just like the Nalakūvara; they were taking bath naked without caring for Nārada. All right, you become naked for one hundred years.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithFrenchJournalistandUNESCOWorkerAugust101973Paris_2" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="58" link="Room Conversation with French Journalist and UNESCO Worker -- August 10, 1973, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with French Journalist and UNESCO Worker -- August 10, 1973, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with French Journalist and UNESCO Worker -- August 10, 1973, Paris|Room Conversation with French Journalist and UNESCO Worker -- August 10, 1973, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Inger: Yes, I'm an Indian. I have been working a long time in Paris. I am a resident more or less in Paris. I work for UNESCO, and I'm a writer. I go backwards and forwards a lot to India. But my headquarters have been here for a long time. So I'm associated...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: How long you are here?</p>
<p>Dr. Inger: In France, I've been twenty-five years.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh, I see. And wherefrom you came?</p>
<p>Dr. Inger: Punjab.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Punjab.</p>
<p>Dr. Inger: Before it was divided into two.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, yes.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember41973LosAngeles_3" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="89" link="Morning Walk -- December 4, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 4, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 4, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 4, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: But, but there is no benefit. You are misusing your intelligence by skyscraper building, and they're using their intelligence to make a nest; but the benefit derived is equal. Therefore, in that sense you are less intelligence.</p>
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: In other words, they never violate the laws of nature, but other..., we are backward, because we tried to fight against the laws of nature.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That is our disease.</p>
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: So they are more advanced.</p>
<p>Devotee (2): Practically you said that.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Ah?</p>
<p>Devotee (2): That the birds are living naturally.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yeah, naturally. No... They have no discrimination. They have to abide by the laws of nature. But you have got discrimination; therefore you are punished.</p>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkFebruary171974Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="21" link="Morning Walk -- February 17, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 17, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 17, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- February 17, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: You see, abhayaṁ sattva. First thing is abhaya. Abhaya-dāna, when you give, it is the greatest dāna. That is the first principle of all the religions, and that is the religion Christ taught there. The Middle East people and the Europeans had no what we call saṁskāra. Those people are very backwards, towards India's backside. Because of the climatic conditions.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, from the First Commandment it appears that they were not very enlightened because why does he say "Thou shall not kill"? That means they were killers.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: They were killing. (laughs)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They were killers.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch271974Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="47" link="Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That is the law of breaking temple. And when we want, that is the law, "No sanction." (Hindi) This is our position. If we go forward, then we are culprit. And if we remain backward, then we are culprit. Both ways. (Hindi)</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Now, camp of the sin of these people is now filling up, and Kalki-avatāra must come out. (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...gentlemen. Otherwise, how they could reign for eight hundred years? At that time Hindus were very strong. They were rigid. And there were many native princes. Still, they ruled over India for eight hundred years. As soon as the Aurangzeb showed his bigotry, it was failed. Muslim... As they're advertised, Muslims are not like that.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMay91974Bombay_2" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="79" link="Morning Walk -- May 9, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 9, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 9, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- May 9, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: Bombay also is hell. Bombay, nobody inhabited this island till the Britishers came, and they created this spot. The importance of Bombay backward... Otherwise so far hell is concerned they are both place. Best is Bangalore in India. Best.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: (break) Doctor can manage securing medicine, distributing. That is another thing.</p>
<p>Indian Devotee (5): Actually, from his talk I could understand that he actually doesn't want to do much. He said he will not be able to come and examine the patients even.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then?</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkJune121974Paris_3" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="110" link="Morning Walk -- June 12, 1974, Paris" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 12, 1974, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 12, 1974, Paris|Morning Walk -- June 12, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. He has given nice reference. A devotee, although sees God in His lion feature, and very ferocious, he knows He is God. "He's my Lord." But this so-called advancement of material civilization is the greatest enemy. That is not... Material civilization is very, very backward position. Māyā-mohita. He'll be captivated by the so-called stones and bricks, and he'll forget God. That is the disease of the western world. They are very much fond of these stones and bricks, and therefore they have no knowledge about God. This electricity, the electrons, the radio, this, everything machine and stones. They have got, forgotten God. Jaḍa-vidyā jato māyāra vaibhava. The more you materially advance, you forget God. So human life is meant for reviving our relationship with God, but if you forget God, then what kind of civilization it is? You are forgetting your real business.</p>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithProfessorsFebruary191975Caracas_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="8" link="Room Conversation with Professors -- February 19, 1975, Caracas" link_text="Room Conversation with Professors -- February 19, 1975, Caracas">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Professors -- February 19, 1975, Caracas|Room Conversation with Professors -- February 19, 1975, Caracas]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes, everyone, by nature they are Kṛṣṇa conscious, but the modern leaders, they are trying to divert their attention. The leaders are trying to make them Kṛṣṇa unconscious. (laughter) Because they are of opinion that "Being Kṛṣṇa conscious, India is so backward. So we have to become American conscious or European conscious." That is their...</p>
<p>Professor (Hṛdayānanda): It was a great pleasure that you invited us to your...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Thank you very much. So you are welcome whenever you have got time. Hare Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationMarch21975Atlanta_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="19" link="Room Conversation -- March 2, 1975, Atlanta" link_text="Room Conversation -- March 2, 1975, Atlanta">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- March 2, 1975, Atlanta|Room Conversation -- March 2, 1975, Atlanta]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guest (1): We are as much backwards as anybody else in the world, probably more so.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Because we have lost our original culture and we could not take the Western culture. So we are in the wilderness.</p>
<p>Guest (1): Because here the average man takes more interest.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Because they are fed up.</p>
<p>Guest (1): Whereas in India the average man doesn't even take interest.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, he knows, "What is this Hare Kṛṣṇa? We know it, now reject it."</p>
<p>Guest (2): An average Indian, I think he will not be able to tell you how many chapters there are in the Gītā.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, they have never been taught. But still they are Kṛṣṇa conscious.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkNovember291975Delhi_2" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="251" link="Morning Walk -- November 29, 1975, Delhi" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 29, 1975, Delhi">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 29, 1975, Delhi|Morning Walk -- November 29, 1975, Delhi]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Then why there are so many enemies? Why the Americans do not like them, Chinese do not like them?</p>
<p>Devotee (3): Now they write in the mod... I see in the modern textbook in the Delhi schools. They make counterproposal. They said, "Because the Indian philosophy is not so perfect, India has become economically backwards on account of following the..."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What economical backwards?</p>
<p>Devotee (3): They say India is very poor country.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. Indians economical backwards because they have given up their own culture. When India was actually standing on the old culture, they were never defeated. Even the Mohammedans, they ruled over India for eight hundred years, but they could not defeat the Indian culture. But the British government are clever. They spoiled the Indian culture. Therefore they are poverty-stricken.</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="GardenConversationJune221976NewVrindaban_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="154" link="Garden Conversation -- June 22, 1976, New Vrindaban" link_text="Garden Conversation -- June 22, 1976, New Vrindaban">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Conversation -- June 22, 1976, New Vrindaban|Garden Conversation -- June 22, 1976, New Vrindaban]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Then why do you trust in God? Don't trust in God, like the Communists say, "We don't trust in God. We shall do it ourselves."</p>
<p>Kuladri: But the forefathers who made up our slogan "In God We Trust," they were very unintelligent, they were very backwards.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But you are intelligent. Why you are putting the forefather's words? You avoid it. That means you are cheating people. You do not believe in, but you still write it. That means cheating. Why do you write such things in which you do not believe? That means cheating. Hmm? What do you think? If you write something which you do not believe in, are you not cheating? That means cheating. You take word, you are giving a piece of paper, and it is written there, "one thousand dollars." That means you are cheating, in the name of God, he will accept you, that's all. If you say, "No, I don't want paper. Give me gold dollar," then you are finished.</p>
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<div id="GardenDiscussiononBhagavadgitaSixteenthChapterJune261976NewVrindaban_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="162" link="Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban" link_text="Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban|Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee (1): There's one... You've quoted Cāṇakya Paṇḍita, and he describes a scholar. A scholar is a man who can see all women as his mother, and all living entities, he treats them equally, and other's property as trash. So today's civilization is mistaking a scholar for a rogue and a rogue for a scholar, and here Kṛṣṇa is explaining a godly man, the qualities of a scholar and gentleman, whereas today's civilization is upside down, backwards.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Therefore preaching is required.</p>
<p>Dhṛṣṭadyumna: They feel that godly qualities are a sign of weakness. And the demoniac qualities is a good sign.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Heroism. That is heroism.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationAugust21976NewMayapurFrenchfarm_2" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="238" link="Room Conversation -- August 2, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 2, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 2, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)|Room Conversation -- August 2, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes, from cultural point of view, they are degraded. And that was that British policy, to kill them culturally. Otherwise not possible to rule over them.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: They always advertised that India was so backward because that was a justification for their being there, that "We shall go and educate."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They used to advertise like that.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: Then they could exploit and avoid criticism.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, so many bad things Britishers introduced. Bad things means Western type of civilization.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationNovember201976Vrndavana_3" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="336" link="Room Conversation -- November 20, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- November 20, 1976, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 20, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- November 20, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Everything give up. That is India's Vedic civilization. They are not concerned with the material advancement. Simple life. That's all. And our present leaders, they are thinking that "brainwashed." They are not deeply thinking, "Why our great sages and ācāryas recommended this life, not the skyscraper life? Why? They were not less intelligent." They are not thinking in that way. They are thinking that "Because we neglected the skyscraper thoughts, we are so backward." At least this rascal Nehru was thinking like that. "So finish this." The Russia is... What is called? Opiate, brainwashed. These things are accepted like that. "It has no value, simply some prejudice and superstition, and they are thinking like that and they are spoiling their material side of life." This is their idea. "What is this? No meat-eating?" (knock on the door devotee enters with prasādam ) That little dāl, daliya,(?) bas.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkandRoomConversationDecember261976Bombay_4" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="353" link="Morning Walk and Room Conversation -- December 26, 1976, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk and Room Conversation -- December 26, 1976, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk and Room Conversation -- December 26, 1976, Bombay|Morning Walk and Room Conversation -- December 26, 1976, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guest (4): Swamiji, what about missionaries who are working in India who are coming from abroad and they are actually exploiting. If they put a charge against our institution, well, we can definitely say that we are motivating the intellect to take into the higher stage of life. Here the missionaries who come, they go in the backward areas and those who are not learned, those who are practically uneducated... I mean, their mission is to convert them in Christianity. You see, that charge is rather more grave than the particular one which they have leveled against us. You see, we can put that argument, isn't it? How many Hindus are converted into Christianity. We are not converting them, we are just...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Our case is not that we are going to convert one Hindu to Christian, or Christian to Hindu. There is no meaning. Our is, sarva-dharmān parityajya ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66 (1972)|BG 18.66]]). Even if you are Hindu, even you are Muslim, you are Christian, kick it out. That is our movement. We do not advocate that "You are Christian, you become Hindu."</p>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="ConversationonTraintoAllahabadJanuary111977India_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="27" link="Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India" link_text="Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India|Conversation on Train to Allahabad -- January 11, 1977, India]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Rāmeśvara: The American people are... They consider it backwards. Prabhupāda: That has to be educated, that backward is real life.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: They think they have achieved a higher standard of freedom by traveling all over the world...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Where is your freedom? Where is your freedom if for your livelihood you have to go a hundred miles? Where is your freedom? Why you are illusioned? For your bread, you have to go hundred miles off, either by car or by train. So where is your freedom?</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: The freedom is in leisure time. They have a lot of leisure time.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Where is leisure time? You rise early in the morning and start for your office. Where is your leisure time? All imagination. I have seen in New York.</p>
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<div id="ConversationandInstructionOnNewMovieJanuary131977Allahabad_1" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="28" link="Conversation and Instruction On New Movie -- January 13, 1977, Allahabad" link_text="Conversation and Instruction On New Movie -- January 13, 1977, Allahabad">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation and Instruction On New Movie -- January 13, 1977, Allahabad|Conversation and Instruction On New Movie -- January 13, 1977, Allahabad]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Artistic.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: Yes, it'll show the higher religious culture of India. That will impress many people in America. They think of India as so backwards, but they'll see that they have these beautiful temples.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So that is due to British propaganda. British propaganda was that they were staying in India to make India civilized.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: Their big propaganda is that "India is so poor and they are so stupid, they are giving all their money to the temple, so they are remaining poor, so what is the use of this religion?" That was the propaganda, that "Religion is the opiate of the people."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, they do not... Therefore they are... The Indian rascals, they using this income of Bālaji for industry. They are bringing, that "The poor people, on account of their innocence, they are blindly, so..." Communist movement is against us because we are constructing costly temples, crores and rupees. This could have been utilized in industry. That is their protest. Temple construction was practically stopped in India. And I have again revived.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkJanuary241977Bhuvanesvara_2" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="50" link="Morning Walk -- January 24, 1977, Bhuvanesvara" link_text="Morning Walk -- January 24, 1977, Bhuvanesvara">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 24, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Morning Walk -- January 24, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Satsvarūpa: I remember in school seeing films of India, and they would say, "This is very backward. They're living as they used to live hundreds of years ago by using the ox and the plow."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Now we have, hundred years after, we have learned how to kill ox and bulls. That is your advancement. And kill your own children also. Rascal civilization. They say "primitive." I was talking with a priest in Australia. So he said, "This civilization you are suggesting, this is primitive." Do they call it primitive?</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And what is the wrong with the primitive?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithSvarupaDamodaraJanuary301977Bhuvanesvara_3" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="68" link="Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara" link_text="Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hari-śauri: Did you read this caption, Śrīla Prabhupāda, for this crocodile? 'Cause it explains how the male crocodile, he takes the egg underneath his tongue and he rolls it backwards and forwards very gently until the young crocodile hatches, and then he leaves his mouth open, and the little crocodile jumps out and swims ashore.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Ācchā?</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: So the point they were making was that if it was simply a question of chemical reaction, that tendency...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: How it is... How would that..., eggs.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: Yes. How would he have that loving feeling to hatch the baby?</p>
<p>Gargamuni: After all, they are man-eaters. They would immediately eat.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationApril101977Bombay_4" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="135" link="Room Conversation -- April 10, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- April 10, 1977, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 10, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation -- April 10, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes, that was the world system.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And they say that that is backwards.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Very nice.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: When I was studying world history in college, when I read this system, they call it feudal, feudal system, I was very peaceful in my mind. I was very interested how nice everything, orderly... I was impressed with the order. Of course, I did not understand Kṛṣṇa consciousness, but I could see it was much nicer. This is chaos, the present-day system.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There was fighting between two political parties. The cultivator is working on the field. One party soldier and, "Where is the other party's soldiers?" "I have seen, they have gone this way." The soldiers of the king, let them fight. Therefore all the soldiers, they assembled in Kurukṣetra. It had nothing to do with the public. Fighting is going on, killing is going on in that big place.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationApril221977Bombay_5" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="149" link="Room Conversation -- April 22, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- April 22, 1977, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 22, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation -- April 22, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Stick to our principle, and see our GBC is very alert. Then everything will go on, even I am not present. Do that. That is my request. Whatever little I have taught you, follow that, and nobody will be aggrieved. No māyā will touch you. Now Kṛṣṇa has given us, and there will be no scarcity of money. You print book and sell. So everything is there. We have got good shelter all over the world. We have got income. You stick to our principles, follow the... Even if I die suddenly, you'll be able to manage. That's all. That I want. Manage nicely and let the movement go forward. Now arrange. Don't go backward. Be careful. Āpani ācari prabhu jīveri śikṣāya. Some eau de cologne smell? Eau de cologne?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationNovember31977Vrndavana_6" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="284" link="Room Conversation -- November 3, 1977, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- November 3, 1977, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- November 3, 1977, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- November 3, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Where there is need of money, send there. I mean to say, just like Africa and other backwards... I am simply dreaming, and you are actually on the field.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We are actually what?</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: On the field.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, but that's because we're in your dreams. If you weren't dreaming like this, we would be on the material field.</p>
<p>Jayādvaita: It's like Mahā-Viṣṇu is lying down. The whole material world is being expanded by His dreaming. So you're lying down here, and the whole ISKCON activities are being expanded by your dreaming.</p>
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<div id="Correspondence" class="section" sec_index="6" parent="compilation" text="Correspondence"><h2>Correspondence</h2>
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<div id="1968_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Correspondence" text="1968 Correspondence"><h3>1968 Correspondence</h3>
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<div id="LettertoKirtananandaMontreal30June1968_0" class="quote" parent="1968_Correspondence" book="Let" index="219" link="Letter to Kirtanananda -- Montreal 30 June, 1968" link_text="Letter to Kirtanananda -- Montreal 30 June, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Kirtanananda -- Montreal 30 June, 1968|Letter to Kirtanananda -- Montreal 30 June, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Before the advent of Lord Caitanya, nobody had exhibited the practical way of developing love of Godhead, and the process is open to everyone, therefore this is simple, non-sectarian, and sublime.</p>
<p>But, if the people are backwards and suspicious, then how your scheme will be successful, in that part of the country? This movement is meant for intelligent class of men, those who have reason and logic to understand things in a civilized way, and who are open-hearted to receive things as they are. But apart from such consideration, I think there is not any cause of suspicion if somebody sings and dances. So without remuneration if somebody sings and dances at his place, what is the cause of suspicion? But if the place is infested with such suspicious men and backward class, then how you can develop a New Vrindaban there? The circumstances as you have described them is not very favorable.</p>
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<div id="1974_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Correspondence" text="1974 Correspondence"><h3>1974 Correspondence</h3>
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<div id="LettertoAjitaLosAngeles3January1974_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Correspondence" book="Let" index="6" link="Letter to Ajita -- Los Angeles 3 January, 1974" link_text="Letter to Ajita -- Los Angeles 3 January, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Ajita -- Los Angeles 3 January, 1974|Letter to Ajita -- Los Angeles 3 January, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You write to say that the students are surprised to hear our description of God-consciousness in such a scientific manner. Yes, because there is no education at all in the principles of the soul and what is God, and what is transmigration of the soul in the next life; therefore, the people are rejecting religion as sentimental and backward but they are not finding any relief in material activities. So our presentation all over the world of the scientific principles of God-consciousness is the greatest benefit to them. Therefore, those who are sincere will be very grateful for our presentation. So go on presenting it as you are doing it and be always sure to keep strong by following the spiritual principles; otherwise, everything will automatically degrade. So I am confident that you will keep up the practices as I have taught them and do not unnecessarily add anything.</p>
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<div id="1975_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Correspondence" text="1975 Correspondence"><h3>1975 Correspondence</h3>
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<div id="LettertoSriKrishnaCBatraVrindaban8December1975_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Correspondence" book="Let" index="739" link="Letter to Sri Krishna C. Batra -- Vrindaban 8 December, 1975" link_text="Letter to Sri Krishna C. Batra -- Vrindaban 8 December, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Sri Krishna C. Batra -- Vrindaban 8 December, 1975|Letter to Sri Krishna C. Batra -- Vrindaban 8 December, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Our society is open to everyone without any discrimination of cast, creed, color, sex, or position, anyone can join us and be trained up in Krishna consciousness. That is evidently proved that we have got more than 100 centers all over the world, including Africa, or other supposed backward countries. Everywhere the Hare Krishna Maha Mantra is being chanted without any difficulty and all of them are becoming pure Vaisnavas. They are completely giving up the four principles of sinful activities, namely illicit sex life, meat eating, intoxication, and gambling, and thus they are making progress in the matter of understanding Krishna consciousness very perfectly.</p>
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