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<div id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" class="section" sec_index="2" parent="compilation" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta"><h2>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta</h2>
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<div id="CC_Adi-lila" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" text="CC Adi-lila"><h3>CC Adi-lila</h3>
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<div id="CCAdi1420_0" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="1715" link="CC Adi 14.20" link_text="CC Adi 14.20">
<div class="heading">It is the Vedic system to observe all kinds of festivals, including birthday festivals, marriage festivals, name-giving festivals and festivals marking the beginning of education, by especially inviting brāhmaṇas.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 14.20|CC Adi 14.20, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">After hearing Nīlāmbara Cakravartī’s prediction, Śacīmātā and Jagannātha Miśra observed the name-giving festival in great joy, inviting all the brāhmaṇas and their wives.</p>
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<div class="purport text"><p>It is the Vedic system to observe all kinds of festivals, including birthday festivals, marriage festivals, name-giving festivals and festivals marking the beginning of education, by especially inviting brāhmaṇas. In every festival the brāhmaṇas are to be fed first, and when the brāhmaṇas are pleased they bless the festival by chanting Vedic mantras or the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra.</p>
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG213HyderabadNovember191972_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="63" link="Lecture on BG 2.13 -- Hyderabad, November 19, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.13 -- Hyderabad, November 19, 1972">
<div class="heading">One blind man is leading so many blind men. So where is the education? Here is the beginning of education, real education. What Kṛṣṇa says.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.13 -- Hyderabad, November 19, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.13 -- Hyderabad, November 19, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I was talking with a big professor in Moscow, Professor Kotovsky. He said: "Swamijī, after destruction of this body, there is nothing more. Everything is finished." So just see, a big professor, a responsible person, he has no knowledge about the soul, what is soul, what is body. He's superficially, he is studying that after this body is finished, everything's finished. But that is not the fact. And persons who do not know this fact, they are becoming leaders, they are becoming educators, they are becoming spiritual master, and so on. So how these people will be in knowledge? Because those who are teaching them, they are in ignorance. Andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānāḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.31|SB 7.5.31]]). One blind man is leading so many blind men. So where is the education? Here is the beginning of education, real education. What Kṛṣṇa says. I have already explained that... (aside:) Why they are talking? I have already explained that our process of accepting knowledge is the paramparā system. Avaroha-panthā. There are two ways of acquiring knowledge, āroha-panthā and avaroha-panthā. Knowledge coming from the authorities, that is perfect knowledge. And knowledge acquired by experimental knowledge, that is not perfect. Because we are imperfect.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB6144LosAngelesJuly251975_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="674" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.44 -- Los Angeles, July 25, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.44 -- Los Angeles, July 25, 1975">
<div class="heading">The beginning of education is wrong. Therefore whatever further advancement of so-called education is wrong, because the basic principle is wrong.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.44 -- Los Angeles, July 25, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.1.44 -- Los Angeles, July 25, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">God is the original chastiser or awarder, but there are so many witnesses. That we have already discussed. Sūryaḥ agniḥ khaṁ marud devaḥ somaḥ. Everywhere it is thoroughly watched. So we must be very careful that we have got this human form of body—how to act? The act means first of all you know what is your position. That is the first instruction in the Bhagavad-gītā, that "Your position is that you are not this body. Your position is that you are the proprietor of the body, you are spirit soul." So if people are not educated on this understanding, that the soul is different from body, that is... The beginning of education is wrong. Therefore whatever further advancement of so-called education is wrong, because the basic principle is wrong. So the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement means they want to educate people, rectifying the basic principle of misconception: "I am body," "I am American," "I am Indian," "I am fat," "I am thin," "I am black," "I am white"—all bodily conception. This has to be removed first of all.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB761VrndavanaDecember21975_1" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="742" link="Lecture on SB 7.6.1 -- Vrndavana, December 2, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.6.1 -- Vrndavana, December 2, 1975">
<div class="heading">Prahlāda Mahārāja says from the very beginning of education the bhāgavata-dharma must be taught.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.6.1 -- Vrndavana, December 2, 1975|Lecture on SB 7.6.1 -- Vrndavana, December 2, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">There cannot be any Hindu religion or Muslim religion or Christian religion. There is no possibility. As soon as you designate, then it is not dharma. It is cheating. That is rejected in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavo atra: ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.2|SB 1.1.2]]) "All cheating type of religious system is rejected." That is required. So that bhāgavata-dharma, Prahlāda Mahārāja says that kaumāra ācaret prājño dharmān bhāgavatan iha ([[Vanisource:SB 7.6.1|SB 7.6.1]]). From the very beginning, kaumāra. Kaumāra means from five year to fifteenth year, or five year to tenth year, then kiśora, kaiśora. That is division. So anyway, Just like we send our children to a school at the age of five years, every country. In India also that is the system. When a child is five year, four years, some months he is old, his education begins. So Prahlāda Mahārāja says from the very beginning of education the bhāgavata-dharma must be taught.</p>
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<div id="General_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Lectures" text="General Lectures"><h3>General Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureataSchoolMontrealJune111968_0" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="7" link="Lecture at a School -- Montreal, June 11, 1968" link_text="Lecture at a School -- Montreal, June 11, 1968">
<div class="heading">Kṛṣṇa consciousness, or God consciousness, should be taught from the very beginning of education.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture at a School -- Montreal, June 11, 1968|Lecture at a School -- Montreal, June 11, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So our request to all the guardians of the boys and girls present here, or the teachers, that they should teach from the very beginning this Kṛṣṇa consciousness, or God consciousness. Otherwise the future of the world is not very bright. It is recommended in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. We are having our class in our temple: the instruction of Prahlāda Mahārāja. Prahlāda Mahārāja was a five-years-old boy, and he was agitating this Kṛṣṇa conscious movement in his school. The schoolteacher would not allow him to speak about God, but as soon as there was some recess and the child, the boy, five-years-old boy, he would take the opportunity, call his friends and speak on Kṛṣṇa consciousness. And he said, kaumāra ācaret prājño dharmān bhāgavatān iha ([[Vanisource:SB 7.6.1|SB 7.6.1]]). The Kṛṣṇa consciousness, or God consciousness, should be taught from the very beginning of education. This is the greatest drawback of modern education, that not only in your country or any country they have completely neglected what is meant by God. And in India, they are especially... Now, as soon as there is any question of God, they see phobia: "Oh, this is all nonsense." They have become so clever.</p>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithYogiBhajanJune71975Honolulu_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="98" link="Room Conversation with Yogi Bhajan -- June 7, 1975, Honolulu" link_text="Room Conversation with Yogi Bhajan -- June 7, 1975, Honolulu">
<div class="heading">Asmin dehe, there is the soul. This is the beginning of education. But there are many learned scholars; they do not believe in the soul. That is the difficulty.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Yogi Bhajan -- June 7, 1975, Honolulu|Room Conversation with Yogi Bhajan -- June 7, 1975, Honolulu]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: (Chuckling) But that education is there, the beginning, in the Bhagavad-gītā.</p>
<p>Yogi Bhajan: No, you are shy.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Bhagavad-gītā and the education is there, that, immediately Kṛṣṇa says, dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā, tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). Asmin dehe, there is the soul. This is the beginning of education. But there are many learned scholars; they do not believe in the soul. That is the difficulty. They do not believe. A big, big professor.... I have been in Moscow. Professor Kotovsky, he said, "No, there is no soul. After this finishing of the body, everything is finished."</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember181975Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="264" link="Morning Walk -- December 18, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 18, 1975, Bombay">
<div class="heading">What is education? Bhagavad-gītā says you are not this body. That is the beginning of education.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 18, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- December 18, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Education means ethical. Athāto brahma jijñāsā. This is education.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: No, but I mean to say, you must know how to separate the grain from the chaff.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Bhagavad-gītā begins education, instruction. Immediately He puts forward that you are not this body. That is the beginning of education. Where is such education? Everyone is thinking, "You are this body." "You are Indian, you are American, you are Hindu, you are Muslim." What is education? Bhagavad-gītā says you are not this body. That is the beginning of education. And now education means be nationalist. Drive away and bark...</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: (something about passport in Hindi)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, why passport? Even in our country, Mahātmā Gandhi was also infected: "Quit India." "Quit India."</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: No, he did not mean quit India. He meant "You quit your matter of ruling." I mean actually...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It was the exact word, "Quit India."</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationApril231976Melbourne_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="85" link="Room Conversation -- April 23, 1976, Melbourne" link_text="Room Conversation -- April 23, 1976, Melbourne">
<div class="heading">This is the best education. Our education begins when we learn to see all women as mother. That is the beginning of education.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- April 23, 1976, Melbourne|Room Conversation -- April 23, 1976, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. Our philosophy is to purify, ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam ([[Vanisource:CC Antya 20.12|CC Antya 20.12]]). Our philosophy is to purify the core of the heart from all dirty things. This is basic principle of our philosophy, ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam, cleansing the core of the heart. So just this morning several boys and girls became initiated. So our first promise is, before the Deity, before the fire, before the Vaiṣṇavas, before the spiritual master, that from this day no more illicit sex, no more intoxication, no more meat-eating, no more gambling. This is the first initiation. Then chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra. Very simple method. But one cannot practice these things without association of devotees. Nobody can do it outside. But here they are able; immediately they give up. All these boys, they were addicted to all these habits, but since they have come to the association, immediately they have given up, instantly. So you can bring any number of young men, and we shall be glad to make him free from all these things, practically engage him. It is open. If you like, you can take advantage.</p>
<p>Guest: Yes. I am thinking more in terms of our general education system, for example.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is the best education. Our education begins when we learn to see all women as mother. That is the beginning of education.</p>
<p>Guest: When we learn...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It doesn't require Ph.D. degrees to train him in such a way that a person will see, except his married wife, all women as mother.</p>
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<div id="RadioInterviewJuly271976London_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="230" link="Radio Interview -- July 27, 1976, London" link_text="Radio Interview -- July 27, 1976, London">
<div class="heading">This is the beginning of education, that you are a spirit soul. Because you are spirit soul you are changing bodies. This is the understanding, beginning A-B-C-D.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Radio Interview -- July 27, 1976, London|Radio Interview -- July 27, 1976, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa movement means one who is serious to understand this science-he's member of Hare Kṛṣṇa movement. There's no question of he belongs to some group, anyone, student. Just like in a college, students can be admitted. He may be a Christian, he may be a Hindu, he may be Muhammadan, it doesn't matter. It is a science to understand.</p>
<p>Mike Robinson: And what difference would it make to him, being taught what the Hare Kṛṣṇa people...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is the beginning of education, that you are a spirit soul. Because you are spirit soul you are changing bodies. This is the understanding, beginning A-B-C-D. So when the body is finished, annihilated, you are not finished—you get another body. Just like you have got this coat and shirt. If you change tomorrow, you come to me in another shirt or another coat, that means you are not finished. This science has to be understood. Then one can make progress about the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement.</p>
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