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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1970_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1970 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1970 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationDecember131970Indore_0" class="quote" parent="1970_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="4" link="Room Conversation -- December 13, 1970, Indore" link_text="Room Conversation -- December 13, 1970, Indore">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- December 13, 1970, Indore|Room Conversation -- December 13, 1970, Indore]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Haṁsadūta: No, no, we won't take any prasādam today.(?) We are fasting till noon because it is the appearance day of our Guru Mahārāja's spiritual master.</p>
<p>Yamunā: Disappearance.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: Disappearance? Oh. We won't be taking anything at all. Nothing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Up to twelve we don't take. Fast.</p>
<p>Guest (1): (indistinct) ...in my house?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Whatever arrangement you do, that's all right. But if some of you members become our life members, that will be...</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: Have you seen our books? Would you like to see?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So you can explain. (break) ...the footprints of liberated predecessors like Manu and others. So they are conditioned. Therefore their rules and regulations are not perfect. It cannot be perfect.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: Here is our monthly magazine, Back to Godhead. These are our... (indistinct) This is in Washington, D.C. This is in Berkeley, California. That magazine is being printed in six languages: Hindi, English, French, German, and Japanese, and Bengali. Bengali is not yet out, but it's coming. Then Prabhupāda started presenting these books while he was still in India. This book was published in 1965. This was printed in India, the First Canto of the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.</p>
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<div id="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1971 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1971 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationDecember111971NewDelhi_0" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="31" link="Room Conversation -- December 11, 1971, New Delhi" link_text="Room Conversation -- December 11, 1971, New Delhi">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- December 11, 1971, New Delhi|Room Conversation -- December 11, 1971, New Delhi]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So those who are in devotional service, they have got two things: they can see what is māyā and what is Kṛṣṇa. That is perfect life. Then he can understand how this world is going on, how Kṛṣṇa is working. Everything becomes revealed. Bhakti-yoga is so powerful. Otherwise, what qualification we have got in comparison, their M.A., Ph.D., D.S.D. and so on, so on? Still they cannot touch the right point. Just like Dr. Stahl in Berkeley University. He talked with me, and at last he became silent. So we can challenge like that. Just like we are discussing so many philosophies. So bhakti-yoga is so nice. So you execute bhakti-yoga very nicely, and then you become the topmost learned man in the world. This is a fact.</p>
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndianGuestsJuly111973London_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="37" link="Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Indian Guests -- July 11, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So this is going on. What can be done? And here, in the western countries, they are innocent. I have told them that "Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Lord, Supreme God." They have accepted it. Just like child. So they are making progress. And people are astonished, "How these westerners, they have become so nice devotee?" But they have accepted it without any argument.</p>
<p>Revatīnandana: I used to argue all the time. (laughter) You used to win every time.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Otherwise, what is the miracle. I simply present that "Here is God, Kṛṣṇa. And just chant His name, holy name." And they're doing that. But Indians will not do that. They'll say, "Oh, this Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, we have seen." And one, one student in Berkeley University, Indian: "Swamiji, what this Hare Kṛṣṇa movement will do? We want now technology." That's all. They take it as very trifle thing. Not seriously.</p>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkVarnasramaCollegeMarch141974Vrndavana_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="36" link="Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana" link_text="Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana|Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Therefore sleeping is my only business. Sleeping means for the weak. And for the strong, perspiration. This is the sign. When a man sleeps too much, he's weak in his health. And the strong man will perspire. These are very... Balera ghāma, and the durbalera ghuma. Ghāma and ghuma. Ghuma means sleeping, and ghāma means perspiration. (break) ...principle. And human beings means trained up under principle. That is the difference between animal. The animals, they cannot take up any training. But the human being, this human form of body is meant for taking training. So if they are not properly trained up, they remain animals and the whole society in chaos and confusion. That's all. (break) ...moment, the human society's so degraded that even we are walking, this is also risky. This is also... Gradually, it is becoming. Just like in our New York... That Berkeley? Berkeley? No. Brooklyn. It is difficult to walk due to the Negroes. They immediately: "Whatever you have got, give me." There are so many incidents. In such city as New York there is always danger like that. If somebody kills you, nobody will take care of you. The human society has become... And in India still, they are not so degraded. You see. Even at night you can safely walk on the street. But in Europe, America, you cannot with confidence walk alone in the big, big streets. So human being has become so degraded. Less than animals. They can attack you. Just like in the forest any ferocious animal can attack you at any minute. The whole big, big cities have become like that. (break) ...example that they have started that United Nations. What they have done actually? United Nations. Eh?</p>
<p>Hṛdayānanda: Nothing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Have they done anything progressive?</p>
<p>Hṛdayānanda: No.</p>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithDrJohnMizeJune231975LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="108" link="Room Conversation with Dr. John Mize -- June 23, 1975, Los Angeles" link_text="Room Conversation with Dr. John Mize -- June 23, 1975, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Dr. John Mize -- June 23, 1975, Los Angeles|Room Conversation with Dr. John Mize -- June 23, 1975, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bahulāśva: Śrīla Prabhupāda, did you speak about Kant's philosophy in that book also? Yes? He is very popular.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, Kant is very popular. I was also a student of philosophy. In my student life my professors were all Europeans. I was student of Scottish Church's College in Calcutta. So one professor, Dr. W.S. Urquhart, he was our professor for psychology, metaphysics. Later on, he became the vice-chancellor of Calcutta University. A very nice gentleman.</p>
<p>Dharmādhyakṣa: Dr. Mize finds that he's chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa a little in the shower now. When he takes a shower, he chants a little.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: One press reporter in the Berkeley University in the beginning, he wrote his article and he wrote that after hearing this Hare Kṛṣṇa for a few minutes, I came home chanting all the road, "Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa." He gave this report.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkSeptember151975Vrndavana_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="187" link="Morning Walk -- September 15, 1975, Vrndavana" link_text="Morning Walk -- September 15, 1975, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- September 15, 1975, Vrndavana|Morning Walk -- September 15, 1975, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Vāsughoṣa: In every field someone is miserable. Just in America there was one lady, very famous etiquette expert, Amy Vanderbilt. So she jumped out of her window. She was sixty-nine years old.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There are many. I saw in Detroit, I think. The bridge is covered?</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: San Francisco. The Golden Gate Bridge they have put...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Not Golden Gate. That San Diego, I think. We crossed one bridge to go to the...</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: Oh, yes, San Diego also. They have these fences so when people jump off they are caught by the fences. (laughter)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And I think in Berkeley? The tower?</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: Oh, yes. In the college university they have a big clock tower...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: These are the signs how they are disappointed. They are always ready to commit suicide. So where is success?</p>
<p>Vāsughoṣa: They are practically committing suicide by their activities.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is also another side. But practically you see.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkSeptember271975Ahmedabad_2" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="193" link="Morning Walk -- September 27, 1975, Ahmedabad" link_text="Morning Walk -- September 27, 1975, Ahmedabad">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- September 27, 1975, Ahmedabad|Morning Walk -- September 27, 1975, Ahmedabad]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">(Hindi) To become humble, this is a qualification. (Hindi) This humbleness is a good qualification. (Hindi conversation) Detroit, I saw that bridge. There is barrier?</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: Oh, yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: San Diego.</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: San Diego.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: San Diego. (Hindi) Or I saw I the Berkeley also, that tower?</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: Glass is there.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Glass there. So (Hindi) suicide... (Hindi conversation) You want immediately to become like America.</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationJuly311976NewMayapurFrenchfarm_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="235" link="Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)" link_text="Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)|Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Within thirty-six years there were two big wars, slaughter. Especially Europe. Nature will create. Pestilence. Somewhere there is pestilence, somewhere there is war, somewhere there is scarcity of food. But you cannot indulge in sinful activities. Then you'll be killed. Then nature's law will act. You may defy, that's your business, but nature will act in her own way. Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā duratyayā ([[Vanisource:BG 7.14 (1972)|BG 7.14]]). You cannot surpass. That is not possible. But they are foolish, they are trying to conquer over nature by their so-called scientific knowledge. They are such a rascal. You change the color of this fruit and flower, conquer over nature. So rascal, they talk rascal, "It will take millions of years." We have to wait million. "Yes, from chemical we shall bring life. Wait million of years." This is going on. And for such thing, big building, laboratory, research, scientific research. Big, big signboard. And the students out of disappointment, going to the roof and falling down, committing suicide. I saw it?</p>
<p>Harikeśa: Berkeley.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Berkeley. Very horrible condition. Let them do whatever they like, you live apart from them. Live peacefully in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Be happy. Let these cats and dogs go to hell; what can be done? We are trying to educate them as far as possible, but if they do not take it, that is their business. We are doing our duty, going door to door, "Read these books. If you like, you can come and live with us." What we can do more? We do not make any condition, that if you live with us you have to fulfill. Of course, the condition is that you should not act sinfully. That is the first condition. But we never say that you have to pay so many dollars. Come. Whatever little food we have got, we shall share. So try to understand the importance of this movement. Kṛṣṇa is giving us. This is a first-class place. You can develop it into a Vaikuṇṭha. It is already Vaikuṇṭha, Kṛṣṇa is there. But develop it very nicely, peacefully live. Hundreds of miles away from the hellish cities. For little conveyance we can have bullock carts, when we have to get, transport. Very peaceful life. Introduce it and live peacefully.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationSeptember61976Vrndavana_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="299" link="Room Conversation -- September 6, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation -- September 6, 1976, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- September 6, 1976, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- September 6, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Akṣayānanda: Yes. Just about every devotee, they have thought of suicide.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, they commit suicide. I have seen. Fall from the...</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: Skyscraper.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Tower. From the bridge.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: They have to put big wire screens up to stop people from jumping off.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, I have seen.</p>
<p>Harikeśa: Berkeley.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Berkeley, yes.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: Everywhere. Sydney has bridges like that. These big towers like Eiffel Tower in Paris, they have big fences along the top so that no one can...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This practice is there in Vedic system. Not Vedic system, (indistinct), fall down. There is technical name. Fall down from the mountain. This is easier than other type of suicide. Because you simply once jump, but as soon as you fall, you forget everything. Suicide itself is very bad. This fall down, serotan (?) it is called.</p>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="EveningDarsanaJanuary71977Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="13" link="Evening Darsana -- January 7, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Evening Darsana -- January 7, 1977, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- January 7, 1977, Bombay|Evening Darsana -- January 7, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This body is material; you have to give it up. But no more material body. Why don't you take this science; how it is possible? Why do you not contribute this science to the whole world as India's contribution? They need it. Why you go beg? Give something. In Berkeley University, one Indian student, "Swamiji, what this hari-kīrtana will do? We require now technology." So I replied, "Yes, you have come to beg here. I have come to give something. I am not a beggar like you." So we are working... Of course, we are Indian, we are poor. That is another thing. But I never went to beg something from them. I never asked them any money. I never asked them. They give me money because they understand that I am giving something. Do you know how we are selling our books? Daily, five, six lakhs rupees collected. They are getting the money. I have given them the knowledge. (aside:) Bring that telegram. In one week how many books we have sold? Because they're hankering after this knowledge.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationJanuary71977Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="14" link="Room Conversation -- January 7, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 7, 1977, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 7, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation -- January 7, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: In Bengal it is called ālu bharte bharta. If you don't have anything, just have smashed potato, little ghee and rice. That's it. It is sufficient, very nutritious. And at last, little milk. Very nutritious.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Now there is shortage of all the important material the world over. The way we are exploiting the earth, perhaps we'll be short, falling short of everything.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Therefore our Trivikrama Mahārāja is reminding me... When I was lecturing in Berkeley University, one Indian student asked me, "Swamijī, what this Hare Kṛṣṇa movement will benefit? We require technology." So I replied that "You have come to beg technology; I have come to give them, not to beg from them."</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithSvarupaDamodaraFebruary281977Mayapura_2" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="112" link="Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- February 28, 1977, Mayapura" link_text="Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- February 28, 1977, Mayapura">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- February 28, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- February 28, 1977, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes, that is wanted. Farming is wanted. What is this nonsense industry? When I passed through Berkeley and New York, really hellish, these buildings. Some of them are finished, all broken. Similarly London also. This civilization has no value. It is a demonic civilization.</p>
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<div id="ConversationPiecesMay271977Vrndavana_3" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="177" link="Conversation Pieces -- May 27, 1977, Vrndavana" link_text="Conversation Pieces -- May 27, 1977, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation Pieces -- May 27, 1977, Vrndavana|Conversation Pieces -- May 27, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Very happily. That is life. Eat very sumptuously nutritious food. Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Bas. What is this nonsense life, from five o'clock in the morning driving big, big trucks, "Whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh..."? Is that life? In Berkeley... Berkeley? Or where is that? Where are our temple only?</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: Yes, Berkeley.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So there is a road. Whenever you go, always trucks: "Whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoo, whoo, whoo..." The docks and ports filled up with all rubbish things. People are harassed. Is that life? And they are compensating by drinking, by illicit sex and meat-eating. Soul-killing civilization.</p>
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<div id="ConversationwithSurendraKumarandOBLKapoorJune261977Vrndavana_4" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="197" link="Conversation with Surendra Kumar and O.B.L. Kapoor -- June 26, 1977, Vrndavana" link_text="Conversation with Surendra Kumar and O.B.L. Kapoor -- June 26, 1977, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Surendra Kumar and O.B.L. Kapoor -- June 26, 1977, Vrndavana|Conversation with Surendra Kumar and O.B.L. Kapoor -- June 26, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: In the Berkeley University I was speaking. One Indian student got up, and he said, "Swamiji, what this Hare Kṛṣṇa will do? Now we require technology," like that. And "Yes, you have come here to beg technology. You remain beggar. I have come to give something."</p>
<p>Surendra Kumar: Correct, sir.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: "I am not a beggar. I have come here to give something." I replied.</p>
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