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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is" class="section" sec_index="0" parent="compilation" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is"><h2>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</h2>
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<div id="BG_Preface_and_Introduction" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is" text="BG Preface and Introduction"><h3>BG Preface and Introduction</h3>
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<div id="BGIntroduction_0" class="quote" parent="BG_Preface_and_Introduction" book="BG" index="3" link="BG Introduction" link_text="BG Introduction">
<div class="heading">The Supreme Lord has diverse and innumerable energies which are beyond our conception; however, great learned sages or liberated souls have studied these energies and have analyzed them into three parts.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG (1972) Introduction|BG Introduction]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The Supreme Lord has diverse and innumerable energies which are beyond our conception; however, great learned sages or liberated souls have studied these energies and have analyzed them into three parts. All of the energies are of viṣṇu-śakti, that is to say they are different potencies of Lord Viṣṇu. The first energy is parā, transcendental. Living entities also belong to the superior energy, as has already been explained. The other energies, or material energies, are in the mode of ignorance. At the time of death either we can remain in the inferior energy of this material world, or we can transfer to the energy of the spiritual world.</p>
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<div id="BG_Chapters_1_-_6" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is" text="BG Chapters 1 - 6"><h3>BG Chapters 1 - 6</h3>
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<div id="BG241_0" class="quote" parent="BG_Chapters_1_-_6" book="BG" index="80" link="BG 2.41" link_text="BG 2.41">
<div class="heading">The whole process, however, depends on perfect knowledge of the soul beyond the conception of the body—not theoretically but practically, when there is no longer a chance for sense gratification manifested in fruitive activities.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG 2.41 (1972)|BG 2.41, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">"By satisfaction of the spiritual master, the Supreme Personality of Godhead becomes satisfied. And by not satisfying the spiritual master, there is no chance of being promoted to the plane of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. I should, therefore, meditate and pray for his mercy three times a day, and offer my respectful obeisances unto him, my spiritual master."</p>
<p>The whole process, however, depends on perfect knowledge of the soul beyond the conception of the body—not theoretically but practically, when there is no longer a chance for sense gratification manifested in fruitive activities. One who is not firmly fixed in mind is diverted by various types of fruitive acts.</p>
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<div id="BG_Chapters_7_-_12" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is" text="BG Chapters 7 - 12"><h3>BG Chapters 7 - 12</h3>
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<div id="BG89_0" class="quote" parent="BG_Chapters_7_-_12" book="BG" index="39" link="BG 8.9" link_text="BG 8.9">
<div class="heading">The word acintya ("inconceivable") is very significant in this connection. God's energy is beyond our conception, beyond our thinking jurisdiction, and is therefore called inconceivable (acintya).
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG 8.9 (1972)|BG 8.9, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The living entity is one ten-thousandth part of the tip of a hair, but the Lord is so inconceivably small that He enters into the heart of this particle. Therefore He is called smaller than the smallest. As the Supreme, He can enter into the atom and into the heart of the smallest and control him as the Supersoul. Although so small, He is still all-pervading and is maintaining everything. By Him all these planetary systems are sustained. We often wonder how these big planets are floating in the air. It is stated here that the Supreme Lord, by His inconceivable energy, is sustaining all these big planets and systems of galaxies. The word acintya ("inconceivable") is very significant in this connection. God's energy is beyond our conception, beyond our thinking jurisdiction, and is therefore called inconceivable (acintya). Who can argue this point? He pervades this material world and yet is beyond it. We cannot comprehend even this material world, which is insignificant compared to the spiritual world—so how can we comprehend what is beyond? Acintya means that which is beyond this material world, that which our argument, logic and philosophical speculation cannot touch, that which is inconceivable.</p>
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<div id="BG911_1" class="quote" parent="BG_Chapters_7_-_12" book="BG" index="69" link="BG 9.11" link_text="BG 9.11">
<div class="heading">The biggest and the minutest are beyond their conception, so they cannot imagine that a form like that of a human being can simultaneously control the infinite and the minute.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG 9.11 (1972)|BG 9.11, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Foolish persons, however, cannot conceive that the Personality of Godhead, Kṛṣṇa, appearing just like an ordinary man, can be the controller of all the atoms and of the gigantic manifestation of the universal form. The biggest and the minutest are beyond their conception, so they cannot imagine that a form like that of a human being can simultaneously control the infinite and the minute. Actually although He is controlling the infinite and the finite, He is apart from all this manifestation. It is clearly stated concerning His yogam aiśvaram, His inconceivable transcendental energy, that He can control the infinite and the finite simultaneously and that He can remain aloof from them. Although the foolish cannot imagine how Kṛṣṇa, who appears just like a human being, can control the infinite and the finite, those who are pure devotees accept this, for they know that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Therefore they completely surrender unto Him and engage in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, devotional service of the Lord.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam" class="section" sec_index="1" parent="compilation" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam"><h2>Srimad-Bhagavatam</h2>
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<div id="SB_Canto_1" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 1"><h3>SB Canto 1</h3>
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<div id="SB113_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_1" book="SB" index="3" link="SB 1.1.3" link_text="SB 1.1.3">
<div class="heading">Less intelligent transcendentalists cannot go beyond this conception of becoming one with the spirit whole, without knowing of the different rasas.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 1.1.3|SB 1.1.3, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore, one who attains full knowledge of these different rasas, which are the basic principles of activities, can understand the false representations of the original rasas which are reflected in the material world. The learned scholar seeks to relish the real rasa in the spiritual form. In the beginning he desires to become one with the Supreme. Thus, less intelligent transcendentalists cannot go beyond this conception of becoming one with the spirit whole, without knowing of the different rasas.</p>
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<div id="SB1523_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_1" book="SB" index="154" link="SB 1.5.23" link_text="SB 1.5.23">
<div class="heading">Choose a bona fide servant of the Lord constantly engaged in His service, accept such a servant as the spiritual master and engage himself in his (the spiritual master's) service. Such a spiritual master is the transparent medium by which to visualize the Lord, who is beyond the conception of the material senses.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 1.5.23|SB 1.5.23, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The Lord says that the service of His servants is greater than His personal service. Service of the devotee is more valuable than the service of the Lord. One should therefore choose a bona fide servant of the Lord constantly engaged in His service, accept such a servant as the spiritual master and engage himself in his (the spiritual master's) service. Such a spiritual master is the transparent medium by which to visualize the Lord, who is beyond the conception of the material senses. By service of the bona fide spiritual master, the Lord consents to reveal Himself in proportion to the service rendered. Utilization of the human energy in the service of the Lord is the progressive path of salvation. The whole cosmic creation becomes at once identical with the Lord as soon as service in relation with the Lord is rendered under the guidance of a bona fide spiritual master.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_2" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 2"><h3>SB Canto 2</h3>
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<div id="SB2138_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_2" book="SB" index="39" link="SB 2.1.38" link_text="SB 2.1.38">
<div class="heading">None of the materialistic thoughtful men can go beyond this conception of the gigantic form.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 2.1.38|SB 2.1.38, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Because they are unable to accept the personal feature of the Supreme Lord, the Lord is kind enough to demonstrate the virāṭ feature of His transcendental form, and herein Śrīla Śukadeva Gosvāmī has vividly described this form of the Lord. He concludes that there is nothing beyond this gigantic feature of the Lord. None of the materialistic thoughtful men can go beyond this conception of the gigantic form. The minds of the materialistic men are flickering and constantly changing from one aspect to another. Therefore, one is advised to think of the Lord by thinking of any part of His gigantic body, and by one's intelligence only one can think of Him in any manifestation of the material world—the forest, the hill, the ocean, the man, the animal, the demigod, the bird, the beast or anything else. Each and every item of the material manifestation entails a part of the body of the gigantic form, and thus the flickering mind can be fixed in the Lord only and nothing else.</p>
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<div id="SB2532_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_2" book="SB" index="150" link="SB 2.5.32" link_text="SB 2.5.32">
<div class="heading">The foolish, childlike materialists cannot reach beyond the conception of the maidservant, material nature, but the intelligent grown-up sons of the Lord know well that all the acts of material nature are controlled by the Lord, just as a maidservant is under the control of the master, the father of the undeveloped children.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 2.5.32|SB 2.5.32, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Just as a father gives some playthings to the crying child to satisfy him, the whole material creation is made possible by the will of the Lord to allow the bewildered living entities to lord it over things as they desire, although under the control of the agent of the Lord. The living entities are exactly like small children playing the material field under the control of the maidservant of the Lord (nature). They accept the māyā, or the maidservant, as all in all and thus wrongly conceive the Supreme Truth to be feminine (goddess Durgā, etc.). The foolish, childlike materialists cannot reach beyond the conception of the maidservant, material nature, but the intelligent grown-up sons of the Lord know well that all the acts of material nature are controlled by the Lord, just as a maidservant is under the control of the master, the father of the undeveloped children.</p>
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<div id="SB21034_2" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_2" book="SB" index="358" link="SB 2.10.34" link_text="SB 2.10.34">
<div class="heading">This nullifying expression is described in four transcendental qualifications, namely unmanifested, transcendental, eternal, and beyond the conception of mind or word.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 2.10.34|SB 2.10.34, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The ether in the material world is considered to be the finest. Finer than the ether is mind, intelligence, and false ego. But all eight of the outward coverings are explained as outer coverings of the Absolute Truth. The Absolute Truth is therefore beyond the expression and speculation of the material conception. He is certainly transcendental to all material conceptions. This is called nirviśeṣaṇam. One should not, however, misunderstand nirviśeṣaṇam as being without any transcendental qualifications. Viśeṣaṇam means qualities. Therefore nir added to it means that he has no material qualities or variegatedness. This nullifying expression is described in four transcendental qualifications, namely unmanifested, transcendental, eternal, and beyond the conception of mind or word. Beyond the limits of words means negation of the material conception. Unless one is transcendentally situated, it is not possible to know the transcendental form of the Lord.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_3" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 3"><h3>SB Canto 3</h3>
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<div id="SB3610_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="204" link="SB 3.6.10" link_text="SB 3.6.10">
<div class="heading">The Lord is therefore described in the Vedic language as, beyond the conception of words and minds.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.6.10|SB 3.6.10, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Without the living entity, a material body cannot automatically take shape or develop. When any material object displays development, it must be understood that there is a spiritual soul within the manifestation. The gigantic universe has developed gradually, just as the body of a child develops. The conception that the Transcendence enters within the universe is, therefore, logical. As the materialists cannot find the soul and the Supersoul within the heart, similarly, for want of sufficient knowledge, they cannot see that the Supreme Soul is the cause of the universe. The Lord is therefore described in the Vedic language as avāṅ-mānasa-gocaraḥ, beyond the conception of words and minds.</p>
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<div id="SB3317_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="1274" link="SB 3.31.7" link_text="SB 3.31.7">
<div class="heading">All descriptions of the child's bodily situation in the womb of the mother are beyond our conception.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.31.7|SB 3.31.7, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">All descriptions of the child's bodily situation in the womb of the mother are beyond our conception. It is very difficult to remain in such a position, but still the child has to remain. Because his consciousness is not very developed, the child can tolerate it, otherwise he would die. That is the benediction of māyā, who endows the suffering body with the qualifications for tolerating such terrible tortures.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_4" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 4"><h3>SB Canto 4</h3>
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<div id="SB4639_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_4" book="SB" index="213" link="SB 4.6.39" link_text="SB 4.6.39">
<div class="heading">It is impossible to conceive of the existence, name, form, quality and pastimes of the Supreme Personality of Godhead because He is transcendentally situated beyond the conception of materialistic persons.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 4.6.39|SB 4.6.39, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">It is impossible to conceive of the existence, name, form, quality and pastimes of the Supreme Personality of Godhead because He is transcendentally situated beyond the conception of materialistic persons. Because materialists cannot imagine or conceive of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, they may think that God is dead, but factually He is always existing in His sac-cid-ānanda-vigraha (Bs. 5.1), His eternal form. Constant meditation concentrated on the form of the Lord is called samādhi, ecstasy or trance. Samādhi means particularly concentrated attention, so one who has achieved the qualification of always meditating on the Personality of Godhead is to be understood to be always in trance and enjoying brahma-nirvāṇa, or brahmānanda. Lord Śiva exhibited those symptoms, and therefore it is stated that he was absorbed in brahmānanda.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_5" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 5"><h3>SB Canto 5</h3>
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<div id="SB5345_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_5" book="SB" index="71" link="SB 5.3.4-5" link_text="SB 5.3.4-5">
<div class="heading">Your name, form and qualities are all transcendental and beyond the conception of experimental knowledge.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 5.3.4-5|SB 5.3.4-5, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Materialistic living entities are very much attracted to the modes of material nature, and therefore they are never perfect, but You are above the jurisdiction of all material conceptions. Your name, form and qualities are all transcendental and beyond the conception of experimental knowledge. Indeed, who can conceive of You? In the material world we can perceive only material names and qualities. We have no other power than to offer our respectful obeisances and prayers unto You, the transcendental person. The chanting of Your auspicious transcendental qualities will wipe out the sins of all mankind. That is the most auspicious activity for us, and we can thus partially understand Your supernatural position.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_6" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 6"><h3>SB Canto 6</h3>
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<div id="SB64Summary_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_6" book="SB" index="141" link="SB 6.4 Summary" link_text="SB 6.4 Summary">
<div class="heading">Since the living entity is alive, he can understand the creation of this material world to some extent, but he cannot understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is beyond the conception of the body, mind and intelligence.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 6.4 Summary|SB 6.4 Summary]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">"The Supreme Personality of Godhead, the Supersoul, Lord Hari, is the controller of both the living entities and the material nature. He is self-sufficient and self-effulgent. As the subject matter of perception is not the cause of our perceiving senses, so the living entity, although within his body, does not cause his eternal friend the Supersoul, who is the cause of creation of all the senses. Because of the living entity's ignorance, his senses are engaged with material objects. Since the living entity is alive, he can understand the creation of this material world to some extent, but he cannot understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is beyond the conception of the body, mind and intelligence. Nevertheless, great sages who are always in meditation can see the personal form of the Lord within their hearts."</p>
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<div id="SB61621_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_6" book="SB" index="599" link="SB 6.16.21" link_text="SB 6.16.21">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 6.16.21|SB 6.16.21, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">The words and mind of the conditioned soul cannot approach the Supreme Personality of Godhead, for material names and forms are not applicable to the Lord, who is entirely spiritual, beyond the conception of gross and subtle forms. The impersonal Brahman is another of His forms. May He, by His pleasure, protect us.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_7" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 7"><h3>SB Canto 7</h3>
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<div id="SB7624_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_7" book="SB" index="249" link="SB 7.6.24" link_text="SB 7.6.24">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 7.6.24|SB 7.6.24, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore, my dear young friends born of demons, please act in such a way that the Supreme Lord, who is beyond the conception of material knowledge, will be satisfied. Give up your demoniac nature and act without enmity or duality. Show mercy to all living entities by enlightening them in devotional service, thus becoming their well-wishers.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_101_to_1013" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 10.1 to 10.13"><h3>SB Canto 10.1 to 10.13</h3>
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<div id="SB10346_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_10.1_to_10.13" book="SB" index="141" link="SB 10.3.46" link_text="SB 10.3.46">
<div class="heading">Śrīla Jīva Gosvāmī says that unless we accept the energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead as inconceivable, beyond the conception of our words and mind, we cannot understand the Supreme Lord.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 10.3.46|SB 10.3.46, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The Lord is not a prākṛta-śiśu, a child of this world, but by His personal energy He appeared like one. Ordinary people may have difficulty accepting the supreme controller, God, as a human being because they forget that He can do everything by spiritual energy (ātma-māyayā). Nonbelievers say, "How can the supreme controller descend as an ordinary being?" This sort of thinking is materialistic. Śrīla Jīva Gosvāmī says that unless we accept the energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead as inconceivable, beyond the conception of our words and mind, we cannot understand the Supreme Lord. Those who doubt that the Supreme Personality of Godhead can come as a human being and turn Himself into a human child are fools who think that Kṛṣṇa's body is material, that He is born and that He therefore also dies.</p>
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<div id="SB10841_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_10.1_to_10.13" book="SB" index="332" link="SB 10.8.41" link_text="SB 10.8.41">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 10.8.41|SB 10.8.41, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore let me surrender unto the Supreme Personality of Godhead and offer my obeisances unto Him, who is beyond the conception of human speculation, the mind, activities, words and arguments, who is the original cause of this cosmic manifestation, by whom the entire cosmos is maintained, and by whom we can conceive of its existence. Let me simply offer my obeisances, for He is beyond my contemplation, speculation and meditation. He is beyond all of my material activities.</p>
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<div id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" class="section" sec_index="2" parent="compilation" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta"><h2>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta</h2>
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<div id="CC_Adi-lila" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" text="CC Adi-lila"><h3>CC Adi-lila</h3>
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<div id="CCAdi3102_0" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="328" link="CC Adi 3.102" link_text="CC Adi 3.102">
<div class="heading">Conceivable dualism and monism are conceptions of the imperfect senses, which are unable to reach the Transcendence because the Transcendence is beyond the conception of limited potency.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 3.102|CC Adi 3.102, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu preached the philosophy of inconceivable, simultaneous oneness with the Lord and difference from Him. Conceivable dualism and monism are conceptions of the imperfect senses, which are unable to reach the Transcendence because the Transcendence is beyond the conception of limited potency. The actions of Śrī Advaita Prabhu, however, give tangible proof of inconceivable nondualism. One who therefore surrenders unto Śrī Advaita Prabhu can easily follow the philosophy of inconceivable simultaneous dualism and monism.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi434_1" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="370" link="CC Adi 4.34" link_text="CC Adi 4.34">
<div class="heading">Kṛṣṇa's transcendental pastimes display eternal servitorship to Adhokṣaja, the Supreme Lord, who is beyond all conception through material senses.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 4.34|CC Adi 4.34, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Material sexual indulgence can never be equated with spiritual love, which is in unadulterated goodness. The activities of the sahajiyās simply lower one deeper into the material contamination of the senses and mind. Kṛṣṇa's transcendental pastimes display eternal servitorship to Adhokṣaja, the Supreme Lord, who is beyond all conception through material senses. Materialistic conditioned souls do not understand the transcendental exchanges of love, but they like to indulge in sense gratification in the name of devotional service. The activities of the Supreme Lord can never be understood by irresponsible persons who think the pastimes of Rādhā and Kṛṣṇa to be ordinary affairs.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi541_2" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="644" link="CC Adi 5.41" link_text="CC Adi 5.41">
<div class="heading">Philosophers are bewildered by word jugglery and disturbed by the different calculations of the scriptures, their theories cannot touch You, who are the ruler and controller of everyone and whose glories are beyond conception.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 5.41|CC Adi 5.41, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">“Because You are unlimited in Your six opulences, no one can count Your transcendental qualities. Philosophers and other thoughtful persons are overwhelmed by the contradictory manifestations of the physical world and the propositions of logical arguments and judgments. Because they are bewildered by word jugglery and disturbed by the different calculations of the scriptures, their theories cannot touch You, who are the ruler and controller of everyone and whose glories are beyond conception."</p>
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<div id="CCAdi66_3" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="842" link="CC Adi 6.6" link_text="CC Adi 6.6">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 6.6|CC Adi 6.6, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Śrī Advaita Ācārya is indeed directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself. His glory is beyond the conception of ordinary living beings.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi61415_4" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="850" link="CC Adi 6.14-15" link_text="CC Adi 6.14-15">
<div class="heading">Although material nature is inert, it is the cause of enjoyment and salvation for many living creatures. Its activities are beyond the conception of sense perception, but still one may guess at them by superior intelligence.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 6.14-15|CC Adi 6.14-15, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The Sāṅkhya philosophy regards the total energy (mahat-tattva), the false ego and the five objects of sense perception as the seven diverse manifestations of material nature, which has two features, known as the material cause and efficient cause. The puruṣa, the enjoyer, is without transformation, whereas material nature is always subject to transformation. But although material nature is inert, it is the cause of enjoyment and salvation for many living creatures. Its activities are beyond the conception of sense perception, but still one may guess at them by superior intelligence. Material nature is one, but because of the interaction of the three qualities, it can produce the total energy and the wonderful cosmic manifestation. Such transformations divide material nature into two features, namely the efficient and material causes.</p>
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<div class="heading">Modern impersonalists do not know anything beyond their misconception of the brahmajyoti, they cannot understand that Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is spiritual and therefore beyond the conception of material illusion.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 7.29-30|CC Adi 7.29-30, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Like Māyāvādī philosophers in the past such as Prakāśānanda Sarasvatī of Benares, modern impersonalists are not interested in Lord Caitanya's Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. They do not know the value of this material world; they consider it false and cannot understand how the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement can utilize it. They are so absorbed in impersonal thought that they take it for granted that all spiritual variety is material. Because they do not know anything beyond their misconception of the brahmajyoti, they cannot understand that Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is spiritual and therefore beyond the conception of material illusion. Whenever Kṛṣṇa incarnates personally or as a devotee, these Māyāvādī philosophers accept Him as an ordinary human being.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi7122_6" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="1066" link="CC Adi 7.122" link_text="CC Adi 7.122">
<div class="heading">The Absolute Truth is beyond our conception.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 7.122|CC Adi 7.122, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The Absolute Truth, or Parabrahman, is always one and always the same. He is completely free from all other conceptions of existence. He is completely free from false ego, for He is the full spiritual identity. It is absolutely impossible for Him to be subjected to ignorance and fall under the spell of a misconception (vivarta-vāda). The Absolute Truth is beyond our conception. One must admit that He has unblemished qualities that He does not share with every living entity. He is never tainted in the slightest degree by the flaws of ordinary living beings. Everyone must therefore understand the Absolute Truth to possess inconceivable potencies.</p>
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<div id="CC_Madhya-lila" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" text="CC Madhya-lila"><h3>CC Madhya-lila</h3>
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<div id="CCMadhya15163_0" class="quote" parent="CC_Madhya-lila" book="CC" index="3358" link="CC Madhya 15.163" link_text="CC Madhya 15.163">
<div class="heading">Vāsudeva Datta's example is unique not only within this world but within the universe. It is beyond the conception of fruitive actors or the speculation of mundane philosophers.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Madhya 15.163|CC Madhya 15.163, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Vāsudeva Datta's example is unique not only within this world but within the universe. It is beyond the conception of fruitive actors or the speculation of mundane philosophers. Due to being illusioned by the external energy and due to a poor fund of knowledge, people tend to envy one another. Because of this they are entangled in fruitive activity, and they try to escape this fruitive activity by mental speculation. Consequently neither karmīs nor jñānīs are purified. In the words of Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Ṭhākura, they are kukarmīs and kujñānīs—bad fruitive actors and bad speculators.</p>
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<div id="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" class="section" sec_index="3" parent="compilation" text="Other Books by Srila Prabhupada"><h2>Other Books by Srila Prabhupada</h2>
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<div id="Teachings_of_Lord_Caitanya" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" text="Teachings of Lord Caitanya"><h3>Teachings of Lord Caitanya</h3>
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<div id="TLC28_0" class="quote" parent="Teachings_of_Lord_Caitanya" book="OB" index="34" link="TLC 28" link_text="Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Chapter 28">
<div class="heading">This philosophy stresses the impersonal feature of the Supreme Absolute Truth. Because Lord Caitanya did not like such impersonalism, He rejected it. "Tell Me if you know something beyond this conception of the Supreme Absolute Truth," Lord Caitanya finally said.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:TLC 28|Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Chapter 28]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Lord Caitanya rejected the statement cited by Rāmānanda Rāya from Viṣṇu Purāṇa because the Lord wished to reject a class of philosophers known as karma-mīmāṁsa. Karma-mīmāṁsa followers accept God to be subject to one's work. Their conclusion is that if one works nicely, God is bound to give good results. Thus one can understand from the statement of Viṣṇu Purāṇa that Viṣṇu, the Supreme Lord, has no independence but is bound to award a certain kind of result to the worker. Such a dependent goal becomes subjected to the worshiper, who accepts the Supreme Lord to be both impersonal and personal, as he may wish. Actually this philosophy stresses the impersonal feature of the Supreme Absolute Truth. Because Lord Caitanya did not like such impersonalism, He rejected it. "Tell Me if you know something beyond this conception of the Supreme Absolute Truth," Lord Caitanya finally said.</p>
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<div id="Krsna_The_Supreme_Personality_of_Godhead" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" text="Krsna, The Supreme Personality of Godhead"><h3>Krsna, The Supreme Personality of Godhead</h3>
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<div id="KB23_0" class="quote" parent="Krsna,_The_Supreme_Personality_of_Godhead" book="OB" index="27" link="KB 23" link_text="Krsna Book 23">
<div class="heading">It is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gītā that He is the actual enjoyer of all sacrifices because He is directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead and the Supreme Absolute Truth, beyond the conception or speculation of the material senses.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:KB 23|Krsna Book 23]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">There are various details to be observed in the performance of sacrifices. They are known as deśa, place; kāla, time; pṛthag-dravya, the different detailed paraphernalia; mantra, hymns; tantra, scriptural evidences; agni, fire; ṛtvik, learned performers of sacrifices; devatā, the demigods; yajamāna, the performer of the sacrifices; kratu, the sacrifice itself; and dharma, the procedures. All these are for satisfying Kṛṣṇa. It is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gītā that He is the actual enjoyer of all sacrifices because He is directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead and the Supreme Absolute Truth, beyond the conception or speculation of the material senses. He is present just like an ordinary human boy, but for persons who identify themselves with the body, it is very difficult to understand Him. The brāhmaṇas were very much interested in the comforts of the material body and in elevation to the higher planetary residences called svarga-vāsa. They were therefore completely unable to understand the position of Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="Sri_Isopanisad" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" text="Sri Isopanisad"><h3>Sri Isopanisad</h3>
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<div id="ISO11_0" class="quote" parent="Sri_Isopanisad" book="OB" index="13" link="ISO 11" link_text="Sri Isopanisad 11">
<div class="heading">The Lord's half-lion, half-man incarnation, and no weapon was used to kill  Hiraṇyakaśipu, for he was killed by the Lord's nails. Nor was he killed on the land, in the air or in the water, for he was killed on the lap of that wonderful living being, Nṛsiṁha, who was beyond his conception.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:ISO 11|Sri Isopanisad 11, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Since Brahmā told him that he could not grant the gift of immortality, Hiraṇyakaśipu requested that he not be killed by any man, animal, god or any other living being within the 8,400,000 species. He also asked that he not die on land, in the air or water, or by any weapon. In this way Hiraṇyakaśipu foolishly thought these guarantees would save him from death. Ultimately, however, although Brahmā granted him all these benedictions, he was killed by the Personality of Godhead in the form of Nṛsiṁha, the Lord's half-lion, half-man incarnation, and no weapon was used to kill him, for he was killed by the Lord's nails. Nor was he killed on the land, in the air or in the water, for he was killed on the lap of that wonderful living being, Nṛsiṁha, who was beyond his conception.</p>
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG212NewYorkMarch71966_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="52" link="Lecture on BG 2.12 -- New York, March 7, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.12 -- New York, March 7, 1966">
<div class="heading">The scriptures says: "Anything which is beyond our conception, beyond our reasoning power, beyond our approach of the material senses, such things we should not try to have conception simply by arguments."
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.12 -- New York, March 7, 1966|Lecture on BG 2.12 -- New York, March 7, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Now, how to understand that which is beyond our conception? The scriptures says like this, acintyaḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet: "Anything which is beyond our conception, beyond our reasoning power, beyond our approach of the material senses, such things we should not try to have conception simply by arguments." So in the Vedic injunction it is said that tarkaḥ apratiṣṭha: "By... What should be the... What should be our real understanding, that we cannot establish simply by argument." Tarkaḥ apratiṣṭhaḥ smṛtayo vibhinnāḥ: ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 17.186|CC Madhya 17.186]]) "If we consult different scriptures, then we'll find that one scripture is speaking something, another scripture is speaking something else." Just like cow-killing.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG212NewYorkMarch71966_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="52" link="Lecture on BG 2.12 -- New York, March 7, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.12 -- New York, March 7, 1966">
<div class="heading">A thing which is beyond our conception, beyond our limit of knowledge, that should be taken from the authority.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.12 -- New York, March 7, 1966|Lecture on BG 2.12 -- New York, March 7, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Here the, the statement of Bhagavad-gītā as by, spoken by Lord Kṛṣṇa, is very clear, that "Myself, yourself and all these people who have assembled here, they are all individual persons. And they were individual persons in the past, and at the present moment, we see that they are individual persons, and they will continue. They will continue." I may not know what they will become in the future, but because He is God, because He is the Supreme Personality, His statement should be accepted. That makes my knowledge perfect. Just like I give you one very simple example. Now, if a little boy asks his mother that "Who is my father?" The mother says that "Here is your father." Now, if the child says, "I don't believe it, that he is my father," is it possible to convince him in any other way than the statement of the mother? Is it possible? No. That is the final. That is the final. And if he says, "I don't believe it," that is his foolishness. Similarly, a thing which is beyond our conception, beyond our limit of knowledge, that should be taken from the authority.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG213PittsburghSeptember81972_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="60" link="Lecture on BG 2.13 -- Pittsburgh, September 8, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.13 -- Pittsburgh, September 8, 1972">
<div class="heading">If you want to know things which is beyond your conception, beyond your sense perception, then you must approach a bona fide spiritual master.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.13 -- Pittsburgh, September 8, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.13 -- Pittsburgh, September 8, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is the injunction, Vedic. If you want to know things which is beyond your conception, beyond your sense perception, then you must approach a bona fide spiritual master. What is the symptom of bona fide spiritual master? Everyone wants to become spiritual master. So that is also stated. Śābde pare ca niṣṇātam. One who has taken complete bath in the ocean of the Vedic literature, śābde pare ca niṣṇātam. Just like if you take bath, you become refreshed. If you take nice bath, you feel refreshed. Śābde pare ca niṣṇātam. Without refreshness, one cannot understand this sublime subject matter. And the guru, or the spiritual master, should be refreshed by taking bath in the ocean of Vedic knowledge. And what is the result? Śābde pare ca niṣṇātaṁ brahmaṇy upaśamāśrayam. By, after such cleanliness, he has taken shelter of the Supreme Absolute Truth, without any material desires. He has no more any material desires; he's simply interested in Kṛṣṇa, or the Absolute Truth. These are the symptoms of guru, or spiritual master.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG45MontrealJune101968_3" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="140" link="Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968">
<div class="heading">We cannot imagine even, even in the material world, how long a living entity can live even in this material world. So these are acintya. Acintya means beyond our conception.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968|Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So we cannot imagine, you see, that how long year. Such hundred years they live. That is their twelve hours. Similarly, twelve hours night. Similarly, thirty days, one month. Similarly, twelve months equal to one year. Such hundred years they live. So we cannot imagine even, even in the material world, how long a living entity can live even in this material world. So these are acintya. Acintya means beyond our conception.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG48MontrealJune141968_4" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="148" link="Lecture on BG 4.8 -- Montreal, June 14, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.8 -- Montreal, June 14, 1968">
<div class="heading">So many things are there which is beyond our conception, beyond our understanding.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.8 -- Montreal, June 14, 1968|Lecture on BG 4.8 -- Montreal, June 14, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So duṣkṛtina means that, those who do not believe in the authorities. So many things are there which is beyond our conception, beyond our understanding. Our senses, our I mean to say, instrument of acquiring knowledge, are so imperfect, that it is not possible simply by handling our, the present senses to understand the right knowledge. It is not possible.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG85NewYorkOctober261966_5" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="289" link="Lecture on BG 8.5 -- New York, October 26, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 8.5 -- New York, October 26, 1966">
<div class="heading">God's beyond the expression of words. He is beyond the conception of mind. He is greatest of the great, and the smallest of the small.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 8.5 -- New York, October 26, 1966|Lecture on BG 8.5 -- New York, October 26, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So we cannot restrict God, that "He cannot be like this. He cannot come here. He cannot take any shape." No. He is not under my restriction. Then how God is great? If I put God under my restricted knowledge or limited knowledge, then God becomes under my understanding. But the Vedic language says, avan mānasa-gocaraḥ. He's beyond the expression of words. He is beyond the conception of mind. He is greatest of the great, and the smallest of the small. How He's the smallest of the... We are also, because we are spirit spark. Now, do we know what is our measurement? That we can find in the śāstra. I have several times mentioned that one ten-thousandth part of the tip of your hair is the measurement of the soul. Now you have no instrument. You cannot measure even the tip of your hair, and what to speak of ten-thousandth part of it. Impossible. Therefore because you cannot find out by dissecting this body where is that spirit spark... There is, but your present eyes cannot find it out. Therefore you say nirākāra, or no form. But actually, it has form.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB1215VrndavanaOctober261972_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="71" link="Lecture on SB 1.2.15 -- Vrndavana, October 26, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.2.15 -- Vrndavana, October 26, 1972">
<div class="heading">Don't try to understand by false argument, dry argument, which is beyond your conception, beyond your reach.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.2.15 -- Vrndavana, October 26, 1972|Lecture on SB 1.2.15 -- Vrndavana, October 26, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore Vedic knowledge is called śruti. It has to be acquired by hearing. Śruti. Not by seeing, not by experimental knowledge. That is not possible. Because it is beyond, beyond our sense perception. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet. Don't try to understand by false argument, dry argument, which is beyond your conception, beyond your reach. Simply waste of time. Then how to know? Now, śrotavya. You have to hear. That is the only means. The example I have given several times. Just like if you want to know who is your father, it is to be this śrotavya. From where? From the authority, my mother. You cannot manufacture your knowledge who is your father. No. You cannot speculate. That is not pos ... Because it beyond your reach. The father was existing before your birth. So how you can understand father by experimental knowledge? That is not possible. You have to accept the statement of your mother. That's all. Finished. Similarly, Vedas—our mother of knowledge. Purāṇas-our sisters of knowledge. So we have to consult from the Vedas and from the right person.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1845LosAngelesMay71973_1" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="250" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.45 -- Los Angeles, May 7, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.45 -- Los Angeles, May 7, 1973">
<div class="heading">Acintya-śakti means beyond our conception. Because the mystic power is there in us also.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.45 -- Los Angeles, May 7, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.8.45 -- Los Angeles, May 7, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like we were discussing this morning, that Kṛṣṇa, we have to accept Kṛṣṇa with mystic power, acintya-śakti. Acintya-śakti means beyond our conception. Because the mystic power is there in us also. Although we are teeny living entities, so many mystic power we have got within. We do not know. We cannot understand. Take, for example, just like your hair. You cut, it is again growing. You do not know how it is growing, but it is growing. That is a fact. That's a fact. How it is growing, that you do not know. That is mystic power. That is mystic power. So many things, there are. So if there is any cut on your body, an injury, even if you don't apply medicine, automatically it becomes cured. How it is being cured? Even if you don't go to the doctor, physician, automatically it will be cured. We are experiencing daily. That is mystic power.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11542LosAngelesDecember201973_2" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="310" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.42 -- Los Angeles, December 20, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.42 -- Los Angeles, December 20, 1973">
<div class="heading">Anything which is beyond your conception, you don't try to speculate. That is simply waste of time.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.42 -- Los Angeles, December 20, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.42 -- Los Angeles, December 20, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So behind the mind, there is intelligence. And behind the intelligence, there is soul. So if you cannot see the mind and the finer gross material sky, you cannot see intelligence, how you will see the soul? Therefore you cannot understand your this gross situation. You cannot. Acintya. Acintya. It is beyond your... Anything which is beyond your conception, you don't try to speculate. That is simply waste of time. "Then how shall I know?" You know from the authority. The same example: you cannot speculate who is your father. Know from your mother who is your father. Very simple thing. But if you speculate, "Who is my father? Who is my father? Who is my father?" that is not possible. Ciraṁ vicinvan. If you go on speculating, without taking care of the mother, without asking from your mother, if you simply want to know by your research scholarship, "Who is my father?" you will never know it. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11542LosAngelesDecember201973_3" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="310" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.42 -- Los Angeles, December 20, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.42 -- Los Angeles, December 20, 1973">
<div class="heading">Things which are beyond your speculation, don't try to argue. Because it is beyond your conception. There is no question of it. By argument, by speculation, by logic, you cannot understand what is soul, what is God.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.42 -- Los Angeles, December 20, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.42 -- Los Angeles, December 20, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore things which are beyond your speculation, don't try to argue. Don't be foolish. Don't be rascal. How you can? Because it is beyond your conception. There is no question of it. By argument, by speculation, by logic, you cannot understand what is soul, what is God. That is not possible. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet. Don't waste your time. So similarly, you do not know what is God by speculation. That is not possible. And religion means the science of God. Religion means the science of God. So how religion, you can understand that this is proper religion? Because you do not know God, neither it is possible to speculate on God, then how I shall accept religion? Just try to understand. Religion means the science of God.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB5519VrndavanaNovember71976_4" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="551" link="Lecture on SB 5.5.19 -- Vrndavana, November 7, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 5.5.19 -- Vrndavana, November 7, 1976">
<div class="heading">God, whether impersonal or personal, that we cannot conclude by our speculation. It is not possible. Durvibhāvyam means beyond your conception, beyond your speculation.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 5.5.19 -- Vrndavana, November 7, 1976|Lecture on SB 5.5.19 -- Vrndavana, November 7, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So, God, whether impersonal or personal, that we cannot conclude by our speculation. It is not possible. Durvibhāvyam. Durvibhāvyam means beyond your conception, beyond your speculation. But He says that idaṁ śarīram. He has got His body;He is not impersonal. He comes sometimes as incarnation. We can see Kṛṣṇa with two hands, two legs, one head. Veṇuṁ kvaṇantam aravinda dalāyatākṣaṁ barhāvataṁsam asitāmbuda-sundarāṅgam (Bs. 5.30). This is described in the Vedic literature. He has two hands and He is playing on flute. He has got the peacock feather on His head. It is not imagination. The Kṛṣṇa arcā-mūrti, it is not imagination, as rascals think, that they have imaginated an idol. This is not idol worship. This is actually... I have several times explained that here is Kṛṣṇa, personally present.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB618NewYorkJuly221971_5" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="593" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.8 -- New York, July 22, 1971" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.8 -- New York, July 22, 1971">
<div class="heading">This life is normal life and liberated life. Any other life, beyond this conception of Kṛṣṇa consciousness, that is sinful life.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.8 -- New York, July 22, 1971|Lecture on SB 6.1.8 -- New York, July 22, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The supreme eternal is Śrī Kṛṣṇa, and we are also eternal. We are not supreme; we are subordinate. Nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām. He is the supreme living entity, and we are subordinate living entities. Eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān. That one living entity, one eternal, He's supplying all the necessities of life to the plural number eternals. Eko bahūnām, unlimited number of living entities. You cannot count. Bahūnām. This is our relationship. So, as part and parcel, we have to serve Kṛṣṇa, and we are subordinate. He is supplying our necessities. He is the Supreme Father. This life is normal life and liberated life. Any other life, beyond this conception of Kṛṣṇa consciousness, that is sinful life.</p>
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</div>
<div id="LectureonSB7612StockholmSeptember61973_6" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="745" link="Lecture on SB 7.6.1-2 -- Stockholm, September 6, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.6.1-2 -- Stockholm, September 6, 1973">
<div class="heading">We may think independently that "There is no God, there is no nature's work, we are everything." That crazy statements may be there, but there is good management, beyond our conception.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.6.1-2 -- Stockholm, September 6, 1973|Lecture on SB 7.6.1-2 -- Stockholm, September 6, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">As soon as you change your body, the next change will be offered by nature according to your desire. So in this life we are creating different types of desires. Therefore, we find different types of bodies. This is nature's work. Prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni guṇaiḥ karmāṇi sarvaśaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 3.27 (1972)|BG 3.27]]). Don't think that you are independent. None of us are independent. We may think independently that "There is no God, there is no nature's work, we are everything." That crazy statements may be there, but there is good management, beyond our conception. As you see there is good management in the natures—exactly in due course of time the sun is rising, the moon is rising, the seasons are being changed, the water is there in the ocean, it is not transgressing the limit, the Pacific Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean. There is full control of the material nature. And behind this material nature, there is God. Prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni ([[Vanisource:BG 3.27 (1972)|BG 3.27]]). Prakṛti, nature is working, but nature is working under the direction of God.</p>
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<div id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Lectures" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures"><h3>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonCCAdilila7107109SanFranciscoFebruary151967_0" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="34" link="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 7.107-109 -- San Francisco, February 15, 1967" link_text="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 7.107-109 -- San Francisco, February 15, 1967">
<div class="heading">So as they are, if we want to understand: "Things which are beyond your conception, beyond your expression, beyond your knowledge, don't apply your so-called argument and reason." That is Vedānta study.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Adi-lila 7.107-109 -- San Francisco, February 15, 1967|Lecture on CC Adi-lila 7.107-109 -- San Francisco, February 15, 1967]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like sun is unborn. I am seeing that at five o'clock sun is born in the eastern side of New York City. This is my foolishness. Sun is never born. He's always there. It is my imperfectness that I am seeing that sun is born this hour. Similarly, Kṛṣṇa is never born. Kṛṣṇa is just like sun. So as they are, if we want to understand... Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet: "Things which are beyond your conception," avāṅ manasā gocaraḥ, "beyond your expression, beyond your knowledge, don't apply your so-called argument and reason." That is Vedānta study. If, if you do not understand, put question to your spiritual master, try to understand, but as a matter of fact, you should know, "What is stated here, that is all right. It is due to my imperfectness of knowledge I cannot just now understand it. Let me ask my spiritual master and let me understand it properly." But a thing as it is, that is all right. We must take it.</p>
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<div id="LectureonCCMadhyalila20110NewYorkJuly171976_1" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="63" link="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.110 -- New York, July 17, 1976" link_text="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.110 -- New York, July 17, 1976">
<div class="heading">They cannot understand this, the so-called scientists. It is not... Beyond their conception. But this is a fact.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.110 -- New York, July 17, 1976|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.110 -- New York, July 17, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The sun planet is very, very big, fourteen hundred thousand times bigger than this earth. So it is all congested with population. And because they are all fiery, everything made there fiery, therefore it is a blazing fire, and the illumination is coming all over the universe. But they cannot understand this, the so-called scientists. It is not... Beyond their conception. But this is a fact. And the moon planet is also fiery, exactly like the sun. Therefore that illumination is distributed. But the difference is, so far I can remember, that the moon planet fire is surrounded by cool atmosphere. Because the heat is coming through some cool atmosphere, it is at night so pleasing. It is not vacant. There is also living entities. This is one of the heavenly planets. Heavenly planet begins from the sun, then moon, then Mars, Jupiter, like that. We have challenged this, that moon planet is beyond the sun planet.</p>
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<div id="LectureonCCMadhyalila20113LondonJuly231976_2" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="68" link="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.113 -- London, July 23, 1976" link_text="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.113 -- London, July 23, 1976">
<div class="heading">Things which are beyond your conception, don't try to understand it by your so-called logic and argument.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.113 -- London, July 23, 1976|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.113 -- London, July 23, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We must admit our position that in the God's creation everything is inconceivable by us. We cannot calculate within our limitation. That is not possible. Therefore śāstra says, acintya khalu ye bhava. The same word in another way: na tas tarkyena yojayet. Things which are beyond your conception, don't try to understand it by your so-called logic and argument. But one logic, one argument, if we are sincere, then we can accept even by logic and argument, that... That is also stated in śāstra, in Bhagavad-gītā, that Kṛṣṇa says, ahaṁ bīja-pradaḥ pitā.</p>
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<div id="Sri_Isopanisad_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Lectures" text="Sri Isopanisad Lectures"><h3>Sri Isopanisad Lectures</h3>
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<div id="SriIsopanisadLectureExcerptLosAngelesJuly81971_0" class="quote" parent="Sri_Isopanisad_Lectures" book="Lec" index="22" link="Sri Isopanisad Lecture Excerpt -- Los Angeles, July 8, 1971" link_text="Sri Isopanisad Lecture Excerpt -- Los Angeles, July 8, 1971">
<div class="heading">The śāstra says that "Things which are beyond your conception, beyond your mental speculation "neither you can express by words, neither you can think of."
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Sri Isopanisad Lecture Excerpt -- Los Angeles, July 8, 1971|Sri Isopanisad Lecture Excerpt -- Los Angeles, July 8, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like Caitanya Mahāprabhu, when He was at Purī, the king of that place, Mahārāja Pratāparudra, he inquired from Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya, "Oh, what is your opinion about this Caitanya who has come here?" He said that "He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead." So the king immediately accepted it. King said, "Oh, He is Supreme Personality of Godhead?" So he accepted immediately, just like... There is no question of experimenting. Because an authority like Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya is stating, a brāhmaṇa and... He was very learned scholar. You know Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya's name. So because he said that "He is Supreme Personality..." He did not ask any storekeeper, but he asked a learned brāhmaṇa who knows things. So similarly, we have to accept in that way. In each and every case, if we want to research, it is not possible, because our senses are blunt senses. What you can do? Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet. The śāstra says that "Things which are beyond your conception, beyond your mental speculation"—avāṅ-manasā gocaraḥ—"neither you can express by words, neither you can think of." Avāṅ-manasā gocaraḥ.</p>
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<div id="Initiation_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Lectures" text="Initiation Lectures"><h3>Initiation Lectures</h3>
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<div id="InitiationLectureNewYorkJuly281971_0" class="quote" parent="Initiation_Lectures" book="Lec" index="39" link="Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971" link_text="Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971">
<div class="heading">Avacintya means beyond our conception. Even though you are able to go in high speed, and for so many years, still Kṛṣṇa remains avacintya-tattva.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971|Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Avacintya means beyond our conception. Even though you are able to go in high speed, and for so many years, still Kṛṣṇa remains avacintya-tattva. Nobody can find out where is Kṛṣṇa's abode, Goloka Vṛndāvana. Therefore, the Māyāvādīs, in desperate frustration, they say that Kṛṣṇa is impersonal, because they want to approach Kṛṣṇa by mundane activities, by mental exercise, mental gymnastic. Kṛṣṇa is not available in that way. Kṛṣṇa is available only to His devotees. Kṛṣṇa is the property of His devotee.</p>
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<div id="General_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Lectures" text="General Lectures"><h3>General Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureEngagementandPrasadaDistributionBostonApril261969_0" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="49" link="Lecture Engagement and Prasada Distribution -- Boston, April 26, 1969" link_text="Lecture Engagement and Prasada Distribution -- Boston, April 26, 1969">
<div class="heading">It is very difficult to realize God. He is beyond our mental speculational field; He is beyond our conception, beyond our words.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture Engagement and Prasada Distribution -- Boston, April 26, 1969|Lecture Engagement and Prasada Distribution -- Boston, April 26, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">"The Absolute knowledge, the Absolute Truth, is nondual." How it is nondual? Now, brahmeti paramātmeti bhagavān iti śabdyate. Either you realize the Absolute Truth as impersonal Brahman or localized Paramātmā, Supersoul, or as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Kṛṣṇa or Viṣṇu, they are one and the same. How one and the same? That is also explained. So God realization, it is said in the Vedic literatures, that avāṅ-manasā-gocaraḥ. It is very difficult to realize God. He is beyond our mental speculational field; He is beyond our conception, beyond our words. But there is other verses also, that athāpi te deva padāmbuja-dvaya-prasāda-leśānugṛhīta eva hi, jānāti tattvam ([[Vanisource:SB 10.14.29|SB 10.14.29]]). One can understand what is God by the mercy of God, not by mental speculation. It is not possible. We have got very limited scope of knowledge. Our senses are imperfect, we are full of cheating propensities, and we are liable to commit mistake. These four defects are within us. However a great man one may be, he is sure to commit mistake.</p>
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<div id="PublicLectureKonigsteinGermanyJune191974_1" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="149" link="Public Lecture -- Konigstein, Germany, June 19, 1974" link_text="Public Lecture -- Konigstein, Germany, June 19, 1974">
<div class="heading">Acintya means beyond your conception. Cintya means within you perception, and acintya means beyond your conception.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Public Lecture -- Konigstein, Germany, June 19, 1974|Public Lecture -- Konigstein, Germany, June 19, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet. This is Vedic instruction, that "Things which are beyond your perception, don't try to understand by this foolish argument and logic." Don't try to understand. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā. Acintya means beyond your conception. Cintya means within you perception, and acintya means beyond your conception. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa. You cannot understand by this rascal logic and philosophy. That is not possible. Then how it is to be understood? There are many places. Ataḥ śrī-kṛṣṇa-nāmādi na bhaved grāhyam indriyaiḥ ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 17.136|CC Madhya 17.136]]). These blunt senses, you cannot understand Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa's name, Kṛṣṇa's form, Kṛṣṇa's qualities, Kṛṣṇa's activities—you cannot understand. Then I have got this... This is my, in possession. How can I understand Kṛṣṇa? That is said, sevonmukhe hi jihvādau. When you engage your tongue in the service of the Lord.</p>
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<div id="Philosophy_Discussions" class="sub_section" sec_index="13" parent="Lectures" text="Philosophy Discussions"><h3>Philosophy Discussions</h3>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononJohnDewey_0" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="10" link="Philosophy Discussion on John Dewey" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on John Dewey">
<div class="heading">People do not know how long before this material world or cosmic manifestation was created. It is beyond their conception.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on John Dewey|Philosophy Discussion on John Dewey]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Historical... It is historical. The whole cosmic manifestation has a date of creation; therefore it is historical. Anything material which has a beginning, that, that is history, it has got a history. So people do not know how long before this material world or cosmic manifestation was created. It is beyond their conception. Even the mathematical count, millions and trillions and millions, will not do, when he began, but it has got a history-beyond the calculation of so-called scientist and  mathematician, but there is history. According to Vedic description there is history. There is history of Manu, there is history of, of Brahmā. So in this way there is a regular history. Just like in the Bhagavad-gītā a small instance of history is being given: sahasra-yuga-paryantam ahar yad brahmaṇo viduḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 8.17 (1972)|BG 8.17]]), that the Brahmā's daytime, just like we have got solar calculation, twelve hours' daytime, so that twelve hours of Brahmā is calculated sahara-yuga-paryantam. One yuga means forty-three hundred thousands of years.</p>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="ConversationwithMrWadellJuly101973London_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="36" link="Conversation with Mr. Wadell -- July 10, 1973, London" link_text="Conversation with Mr. Wadell -- July 10, 1973, London">
<div class="heading">That means things which are unknown, beyond our conception, you have to know it through the authority.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Mr. Wadell -- July 10, 1973, London|Conversation with Mr. Wadell -- July 10, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Mr. Wadell: Oh, yes, I agree with what you say. I am just adding another explanation.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. And you cannot understand your father by any other process. This is the only process. That means things which are unknown, beyond our conception, you have to know it through the authority. Just like you know your father through the authority of your mother.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember41973LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="89" link="Morning Walk -- December 4, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 4, 1973, Los Angeles">
<div class="heading">Veda says don't try to explain which is beyond your sense. It is acintya, it is beyond your conception. Why you are wasting your time?
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 4, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 4, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Just like the same example, when good aroma is carried. So somebody says, "This good aroma is coming because the air passing through a flower garden, therefore this aroma." Now this is a fact, but you cannot see the aroma or the air. But you hear from an experienced man. That is the way of understanding which is beyond your sense perception. But these rascals, simply they are depending on their blunt senses, these stupids, so-called scientists. Therefore they're stupids. They simply believe on their eyes. They do not know how much defective these eyes and senses are, incomplete. That they do not know. They believe on their defective senses. Akṣaja. Akṣaja, akṣ... Experiment. Everything experimented. Veda says don't try to explain which is beyond your sense. How you will explain? It is not possible. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet. It is acintya, it is beyond your conception. Why you are wasting your time?</p>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch241974Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="44" link="Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay">
<div class="heading">One who is beyond the conception of bodies, he has no obligation of these material things.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: They tolerate. Actually, they tolerate because they factually think that "I am not this body. Let the mosquito bite my body."</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: (laughs) So mosquitos also have no body.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura says, deha smṛti nāhi yāra saṁsāra bandhana kaha tāra (?). One who is beyond the conception of bodies, he has no obligation of these material things. Just like there are many sādhus, they simply remain naked body. Even in severe cold. They are practiced.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkatMarinadelReyJuly121974LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="140" link="Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 12, 1974, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 12, 1974, Los Angeles">
<div class="heading">In the śāstra it is said that "Things which are beyond your conception or perception, don't bring it in arguments and logic."
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 12, 1974, Los Angeles|Morning Walk at Marina del Rey -- July 12, 1974, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That is not science. Science should not take anything granted.</p>
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: Something which is beyond their experimental knowledge...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then where is the difference between the scientists and the devotees? The devotees, devotee accepts what Kṛṣṇa says. That's all. Granted. (japa) In the śāstra it is said that acintyā khalu ye bhāvā na tās tarkeṇa yojayet, yojayet. "Things which are beyond your conception or perception, don't bring it in arguments and logic."</p>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril31975Mayapur_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="43" link="Morning Walk -- April 3, 1975, Mayapur" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 3, 1975, Mayapur">
<div class="heading">Even it is beyond your conception, what to speak of others. But it is growing.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 3, 1975, Mayapur|Morning Walk -- April 3, 1975, Mayapur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Then? Even it is beyond your conception, what to speak of others. But it is growing. It is... If there is any scar or if the nail is broken some way or other, it will come out. But... You cannot manufacture it by conceiving. But it is coming out. That means within you there is an inconceivable power. So if you have got, an ordinary human being, so much inconceivable power, how much God has got inconceivable power. That is God.</p>
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<div id="GardenConversationwithProfessorsJune241975LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="109" link="Garden Conversation with Professors -- June 24, 1975, Los Angeles" link_text="Garden Conversation with Professors -- June 24, 1975, Los Angeles">
<div class="heading">Things which are beyond our conception, that cannot be established simply by argument, logic, so-called science and philosophy, that is not possible.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Conversation with Professors -- June 24, 1975, Los Angeles|Garden Conversation with Professors -- June 24, 1975, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: It is... Very simple answer is: when the mother certifies, "He is your father," that's all. You don't have to make research. That is futile. By research, you cannot understand who is your real father. You can understand your real father only by the certificate of your mother. That's all. Therefore our Vedic mantra says that religion and God cannot be manufactured by speculation. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkena yojayet. Just like this example, father. Father was existing before my birth. So after my birth, with limited knowledge I make research who is my father—you will never find your father. But if you take the certificate of your mother, that is there. Similarly, acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā, things which are beyond our conception, that cannot be established simply by argument, logic, so-called science and philosophy, that is not possible. The same example: by argument, logic, science, philosophy you cannot ascertain who is your father.</p>
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<div id="GardenConversationwithProfessorsJune241975LosAngeles_2" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="109" link="Garden Conversation with Professors -- June 24, 1975, Los Angeles" link_text="Garden Conversation with Professors -- June 24, 1975, Los Angeles">
<div class="heading">Things which are beyond our conception, simply argument will be useless.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Conversation with Professors -- June 24, 1975, Los Angeles|Garden Conversation with Professors -- June 24, 1975, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Similarly, things which are beyond our conception, simply argument will be useless. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkena yo... Tarka means arguments. In another place it is said, tarka, argument, is futile. Tarkaḥ apratiṣṭhaḥ: "By argument, you cannot come to the right conclusion." You can argue in a way; I can argue a better way, he can argue in better way. That is not the system. That will not help. Tarko apratiṣṭhaḥ śrutayo vibhinnāḥ ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 17.186|CC Madhya 17.186]]). If you study scriptures, so in the world there are many varieties of scriptures.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithMrMrsWaxWriterandEditingManagerofPlayboyMagazineJuly51975Chicago_3" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="128" link="Room Conversation with Mr. &amp; Mrs. Wax, Writer and Editing Manager of Playboy Magazine -- July 5, 1975, Chicago" link_text="Room Conversation with Mr. &amp; Mrs. Wax, Writer and Editing Manager of Playboy Magazine -- July 5, 1975, Chicago">
<div class="heading">Atlantic ocean is beyond his conception. So these are all Dr. Frog's philosophy. Yes. And the so-called philosophers, they are Dr. Frog.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Mr. &amp; Mrs. Wax, Writer and Editing Manager of Playboy Magazine -- July 5, 1975, Chicago|Room Conversation with Mr. &amp; Mrs. Wax, Writer and Editing Manager of Playboy Magazine -- July 5, 1975, Chicago]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Jayatīrtha: Like the frog in the well.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. A frog in the well is thinking, "This is the limit of water." (laughter) And if you say there is Atlantic Ocean, he cannot understand it. He will think, "What is that?" "Oh, it is very big." "How much? Is it three feet? It is four feet?" "No, no, very big." "Five feet?" "No, no, still..." "Six feet?" So he is calculating in that way, "Four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten," but Atlantic ocean is beyond his conception. So these are all Dr. Frog's philosophy. Yes. And the so-called philosophers, they are Dr. Frog. (laughter) We consider them as Dr. Frog. Some of my students who are doctors, they are now trying to give up their job because they are understanding this is all false knowledge. Yes.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkJune71976LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="115" link="Morning Walk -- June 7, 1976, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 7, 1976, Los Angeles">
<div class="heading">They cannot think that a person, how he can produce a sky? That is beyond their conception. This is their illusion.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 7, 1976, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- June 7, 1976, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Mahendra: Just like many of us, Śrīla Prabhupāda, we were thinking, that...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They cannot think that a person, how he can produce a sky? That is beyond their conception. This is their illusion.(?) They say God is all-powerful, but He cannot produce a sky. This is their defect of knowledge. If God is all-powerful, why He cannot produce a sky? That they cannot think. Yes, He's all-powerful, cannot produce a sky. Their intellect. Poor intellect.</p>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="ConversationwithSvarupaDamodaraJune211977Vrndavana_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="192" link="Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- June 21, 1977, Vrndavana" link_text="Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- June 21, 1977, Vrndavana">
<div class="heading">"Things which are beyond your conception, don't foolishly argue, rascal." That will prove your rascaldom. Better accept what the authority says. It is beyond your conception.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- June 21, 1977, Vrndavana|Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- June 21, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: I can give you idea. Now you develop. Whatever ideas I am giving, it is nonrefutable idea, final.</p>
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: It also makes difficult for others to argue.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: (laughs) When there is argument? Nonsense, how you can argue? And therefore you are rascal. And that is also forbidden. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet: "Things which are beyond your conception, don't foolishly argue, rascal." That will prove your rascaldom. Better accept what the authority says. It is beyond your conception, rascal. Why you are wasting time? That we want to say, that all of them are rascals, and they are simply wasting time by false idea. Cheating. You know, there are companies. They'll... They have got photographic studio. So they adjust their moon hoax. They'll help you. If you have got particular idea... They are going to the moon planet, Mars. Nowhere the rascals go. There is no knowledge. How they can go? Teeny, imperfect. So if we can prove that they have no knowledge of the universe, neither of the position of their...</p>
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<div id="DiscussionaboutBhumandalaJuly51977Vrndavana_1" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="214" link="Discussion about Bhu-mandala -- July 5, 1977, Vrndavana" link_text="Discussion about Bhu-mandala -- July 5, 1977, Vrndavana">
<div class="heading">What is beyond your conception, don't try to. So that is Vedic civilization. They were satisfied with information received from the Vedas.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Discussion about Bhu-mandala -- July 5, 1977, Vrndavana|Discussion about Bhu-mandala -- July 5, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: But nobody has seen that ocean. And nobody can believe that ocean can be churned. Would you believe it? Because it is. And the Vāsuki was taken as rope.</p>
<p>Bhakti-prema: And this Mandara mountain, fifty thousand miles high, was taken there, carried by.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And it was born by tortoise incarnation.</p>
<p>Bhakti-prema: This is combined with description.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet. What is beyond your conception, don't try to. So that is Vedic civilization. They were satisfied with information received from the Vedas.</p>
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<div id="1968_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Correspondence" text="1968 Correspondence"><h3>1968 Correspondence</h3>
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<div id="LettertoMukundaJanakiLosAngeles28February1968_0" class="quote" parent="1968_Correspondence" book="Let" index="91" link="Letter to Mukunda, Janaki -- Los Angeles 28 February, 1968" link_text="Letter to Mukunda, Janaki -- Los Angeles 28 February, 1968">
<div class="heading">This sound vibration is not material, it is spiritual, and powerful beyond our conception.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Mukunda, Janaki -- Los Angeles 28 February, 1968|Letter to Mukunda, Janaki -- Los Angeles 28 February, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I thank you very much for that nice sketch done by Janaki, and I shall have Jadurani begin a painting from that pose. So far the spirit soul is concerned, if conditions are for some reason not favorable in some place, he is forced to leave that womb and take shelter in another. And if there is chanting of Hare Krishna, even the soul is there for a short time, oh, he will hear and become advanced. This sound vibration is not material, it is spiritual, and powerful beyond our conception. So it cannot be hindered in any way by something material; it surpasses all these material barriers. So you can know it that when you are chanting, you are also giving benefit to even the child in the womb. I hope you are feeling much healthier by this time, and I shall be very glad to see you when I arrive in San Francisco.</p>
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