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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 6.4.23|SB 6.4.23, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Even if a materialistic person could count all the atoms in the universe, he would still be unable to understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead. As confirmed in Brahma-saṁhitā (5.34):</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-saṁpragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat-prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
<p>The conditioned souls may try to understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead for many billions of years through their mental speculative processes, traveling at the speed of the mind or the wind, but still the Absolute Truth will remain inconceivable to them because a materialistic person cannot measure the length and breadth of the Supreme Personality of Godhead's unlimited existence.</p>
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG12425LondonJuly201973_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="16" link="Lecture on BG 1.24-25 -- London, July 20, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 1.24-25 -- London, July 20, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 1.24-25 -- London, July 20, 1973|Lecture on BG 1.24-25 -- London, July 20, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We are thinking, "Now we have become God." These rascals they do not know what is God. They are all rascals. They have no idea what is God. Therefore they have accepted another rascal as God. This is going on. You cannot reach. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām, so 'pyasti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve (Bs. 5.34). Śāstra gives you. Just like your material science also gives you information that there is one planet, highest planet, and one can go there by sputnik in forty thousands of years. So who is going to live forty thousand years to reach there? But they have got theoretically all these things. The highest planet. Material. That is not spiritual.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG12425LondonJuly201973_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="16" link="Lecture on BG 1.24-25 -- London, July 20, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 1.24-25 -- London, July 20, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 1.24-25 -- London, July 20, 1973|Lecture on BG 1.24-25 -- London, July 20, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So you cannot go even in the moon planet. How you can go to that spiritual planet penetrating the material coverings coming to the spiritual effulgence, Brahman, and after all these universes, then...? Therefore it is said, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ (Bs. 5.34). Koṭi-śata-vatsara, millions of years, if you go with your sputnik with full force... Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara. Not this sputnik, but make your planes of mind speed. This is material speed. What is this speed? A few thousands, twenty thousand, fifty thousand. But do you know mind speed? You are sitting here, and immediately, within a second, you can go to India. This is mind speed. Immediately. So panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara sampragamyo vāyor athāpi (Bs. 5.34). By the air speed or mind speed. Vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām. And driven by great scientists, muni-puṅgava. Puṅgava means very expert, nara-puṅgava. So big, big scientists, expert scientists, if they can discover airplane which is running on mind speed or air speed... They are not, they cannot go by the air speed. They fly on the air, but not with the air speed. So in this way, still, avicintya-tattve, after going many, many millions of years in that speed, still you will find, "Oh, Goloka Vṛndāvana is far, far away." This is the position.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG218LondonAugust241973_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="80" link="Lecture on BG 2.18 -- London, August 24, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.18 -- London, August 24, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.18 -- London, August 24, 1973|Lecture on BG 2.18 -- London, August 24, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So we cannot estimate by direct perception, even in this material world, and what to speak of the spiritual world. Not (possible.) Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām (Bs. 5.34). By mental, muni-puṅga means mental speculation. You can go on mental speculating, but if you do even for many hundreds and thousand of years, it is not possible to calculate. You have to accept this truth through the śāstra; otherwise, it is not possible. Therefore Kṛṣṇa said, nityasyoktāḥ śarīr-ukta. Ukta means it is said. </p>
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<div id="LectureonBG223HyderabadNovember271972_3" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="86" link="Lecture on BG 2.23 -- Hyderabad, November 27, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.23 -- Hyderabad, November 27, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.23 -- Hyderabad, November 27, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.23 -- Hyderabad, November 27, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is not possible. But unfortunately, there is a section of people who think that they can make experiment, they can know the Absolute by mental speculation. The Brahma-saṁhitā says:</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ. For many millions of years, if you make your progress in the sky to find out God, where is God... Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi. Not this ordinary plane, but on the plane of air, the velocity of air. Or mind. The velocity of mind is very quick. Immediately, you are sitting here, your mind can go many millions of miles away if you have got idea. So either on the plane of mind or by the plane of air, and traveling for many millions of years, you cannot find out. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅga... (Bs. 5.34). Muni-puṅgavānām. Not only ordinary persons, but great saintly persons, sages, they also cannot.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG44BombayMarch241974_4" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="139" link="Lecture on BG 4.4 -- Bombay, March 24, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.4 -- Bombay, March 24, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.4 -- Bombay, March 24, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.4 -- Bombay, March 24, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So we have to approach either Kṛṣṇa or Kṛṣṇa's representative. Then we can understand Kṛṣṇa. Otherwise, simply by mental speculation, by so-called erudite scholarship, nobody can know.</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat-prapada-sīmny-avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Even.... Just like you go by airplane. This is air speed. There is another speed. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo, vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām. There is another speed, mind speed. We have experience of the light speed, of the air speed, but we do not know what is the mind speed. Mind speed is so strong that within a second you can go many millions of miles. Within a second. And you can understand, if the mind speed is so strong, how much the speed of spirit is so strong. Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad-gītā, tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9 (1972)|BG 4.9]]). If you become fully conversant with Kṛṣṇa consciousness, the result will be, tyaktvā deham, just giving up this body, just immediately after death.... Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9 (1972)|BG 4.9]]).</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG71AhmedabadDecember131972_5" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="235" link="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Ahmedabad, December 13, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Ahmedabad, December 13, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Ahmedabad, December 13, 1972|Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Ahmedabad, December 13, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">"A person who has got little favor," athāpi te deva padāmbu..., "little favor from the lotus feet of Your Lordship, he," jānāti tattvam, "he knows what is tattva, what is the Absolute Truth." Athāpi te deva padāmbuja-dvaya-prasāda-leśānu..., prasāda-leśa: Little favor, not all. Prasāda-leśānugṛhīta eva hi jānāti tattvam, na ca anya ciraṁ vicinvan. Others may go on speculating for years and years. It is not possible to understand. And similarly, in the Brahma-saṁhitā, another Vedic literature, it is said, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām (Bs. 5.34). Muni-puṅgavānām, great saintly persons, sages, if they travel for millions of years... Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara. Koṭi, again multiplied by hundreds and hundreds. Vāyor athāpi, on the airplane of air. Not this metal airplane, but actually air airplane or by the airplane of mind. Mind speed, we know.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG71AhmedabadDecember131972_6" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="235" link="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Ahmedabad, December 13, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Ahmedabad, December 13, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Ahmedabad, December 13, 1972|Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Ahmedabad, December 13, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Suppose I am sitting here. So I have got my apartment in Los Angeles, ten thousand miles away. I can immediately go... This is called mind-speed. So with the mind speed, with the velocity of air, if one runs on, to find out the Kṛṣṇa planet, or Kṛṣṇa, still, avicintya-tattva, still, it is inconceivable tattva.</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat-prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Govinda is very, very difficult to understand by mental speculation, philosophical theses. Philosophical theses, speculation, without religion is simply waste of time. And religion without philosophical basis is sentiment. They must be combined together.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG71CalcuttaJanuary271973_7" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="237" link="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Calcutta, January 27, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Calcutta, January 27, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Calcutta, January 27, 1973|Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Calcutta, January 27, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is not possible. By speculating process... There are so many speculators, theosophist, theologist, philosopher, Māyāvādī. They are speculating about God by... But that, by that process, by speculative process, you cannot understand God. That is not possible. Panthās tu... It is stated in the Brahma-saṁhitā:</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve...
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>If you want to know Kṛṣṇa or God by the speculative process, not only for one year, two years... Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi. Not mental speculation, but on the aeroplane running on the speed of vāyu, or air, or mind, the speed of mind, still, by traversing many crores of years, you cannot reach. Still it, it remains avicintya, inconceivable.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG73BombayFebruary181974_8" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="262" link="Lecture on BG 7.3 -- Bombay, February 18, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.3 -- Bombay, February 18, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.3 -- Bombay, February 18, 1974|Lecture on BG 7.3 -- Bombay, February 18, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Again that tattvam. "One who has achieved a little favor of You, he can understand you by tattvata, in truth." Athāpi te deva padāmbuja-dvaya-prasāda, padāmbuja-dvaya-prasāda-leśānugṛhīta eva hi, jānāti tattvam, na cānya, na ca anya, ciram, for good, for many, many millions of years, vicinvan, simply by speculating. That is not possible. There are many places like that.</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve...
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>If you simply speculate to understand God, He'll remain inconceivable. Even if you endeavor for millions and billions of years, that's not possible. In another place Kṛṣṇa says, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). Not only billions of..., but after many billions and millions of births. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān. When one is actually on the platform of knowledge, māṁ prapadyate, he surrenders to Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG7910BombayFebruary241974_9" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="279" link="Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974|Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So he was describing that "From matter, life has come." So there was one student, he's my disciple, Svarūpa Dāmodara. He questioned, "Sir, if I give you all these chemicals, can you produce life?" Then he said, "That I cannot say." But if you know that these chemicals composes life, so when I give you the chemicals, why don't you produce? So simply theorizing. Simply theorizing. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ (Bs. 5.34).</p>
<p>So we cannot decide by theorizing. But if we take shelter of Kṛṣṇa, here is the perfect knowledge, that aham, "I am the background." Otherwise, how we can explain? Svābhāvikī jñāna-bala-kriyā ca. Just like if you have to paint one flower or if you have to create some scent, you have to mix so many chemicals. But He's so powerful, His energies are so perfect, that svābhāvikī jñāna-bala-kriyā ca, simply by His willing, immediately, everything is there.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG7910BombayFebruary241974_10" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="279" link="Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974|Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Person. Kṛṣṇa is the original of everything, original source of everything. That is the verdict of the... Therefore Arjuna accepted; sarvam etad ṛtaṁ manye yad vadasi keśava: ([[Vanisource:BG 10.14 (1972)|BG 10.14]]) "My dear Kṛṣṇa, whatever You are saying, I accept Him, accept all these in toto, not deducting, not giving my own commentation." This is the way of studying Bhagavad-gītā. So if you study Bhagavad-gītā as it is, as it is said in the..., and if you accept it, then your life is successful. Otherwise, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām (Bs. 5.34), you'll never understand what is God or what is ultimate source, what is Absolute Truth.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG81415NewYorkNovember161966_11" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="291" link="Lecture on BG 8.14-15 -- New York, November 16, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 8.14-15 -- New York, November 16, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 8.14-15 -- New York, November 16, 1966|Lecture on BG 8.14-15 -- New York, November 16, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">There are two processes. Now, out of these two processes, the āroha-panthā, one who is trying to understand the Supreme by his own limited knowledge, for him, it is said in the Brahma-saṁhitā,</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Now, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ. By the ascending process, if anyone makes progress with the speed of mind and speed of air... You, you know the speed of mind, how it is powerful. You are sitting here, and you can think of thousands and thousands and thousands of miles away immediately. Just see the speed of mind.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG81415NewYorkNovember161966_12" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="291" link="Lecture on BG 8.14-15 -- New York, November 16, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 8.14-15 -- New York, November 16, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 8.14-15 -- New York, November 16, 1966|Lecture on BG 8.14-15 -- New York, November 16, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So the example is given here that if anyone traverses on the path of ascending process with the velocity of mind and air... Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vat... And if he makes progress not only for one day, two days, three days, one month—koṭi-śata-vatsara, millions and millions of years, if he goes in that speed... Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manasaḥ (Bs. 5.34). Vāyu. Vāyu means air. By the airplane or sputnik, or by the speed of the mind, if he makes progress... Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām. And not very ordinary man, but muni-puṅgava. Muni-puṅgava means the highest thoughtful. Puṅgava means the greatest, and a muni means thoughtful, thinker. If he goes on for millions of years in the speed of mind and speed of air, still, he will find still not knowable, not knowable. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām, so 'py asti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve (Bs. 5.34). Still the subject matter remains inconceivable, inconceivable, not definite.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG9710NewYorkNovember251966_13" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="311" link="Lecture on BG 9.7-10 -- New York, November 25, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 9.7-10 -- New York, November 25, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 9.7-10 -- New York, November 25, 1966|Lecture on BG 9.7-10 -- New York, November 25, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If you take to this, if you practice this Kṛṣṇa consciousness, eternal occupation, then, as we have already explained in the previous chapters, that at the time of your death when you leave this body, as soon as you think of these three eternals—Kṛṣṇa eternal; I am eternal; I want to be engaged in the eternal—you are at once transferred. It is very easy thing. You don't require any sputnik; artificially, for years together, 25,000 miles you go up. What is 25,000... Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ (Bs. 5.34). If you try for millions and billions of years with the force of air and mind, with your sputnik to reach...</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG91114NewYorkNovember271966_14" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="314" link="Lecture on BG 9.11-14 -- New York, November 27, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 9.11-14 -- New York, November 27, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 9.11-14 -- New York, November 27, 1966|Lecture on BG 9.11-14 -- New York, November 27, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So without Kṛṣṇa consciousness, without this definite point... Now, if you have sufficient knowledge, if you have such power for research, now here is a point, that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Now make research work whether Kṛṣṇa is not God. Then your research work will be sufficient. But without any point of aim, without any objective, what is this? Thousands of years, simply speculating.</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Govinda, the Supreme Lord, who is so vast that you cannot reach Him by your mental speculation... Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara. Koṭi means ten million, and koṭi-śata-vatsara,  similarly, millions and millions of years, with the speed of air and with the speed of mind, if you proceed to speculate, to understand the Supreme, oh, that is not possible. That is not possible. So many speculators at the present moment or in the past, speculating, speculating, speculating. They never reach the point, never reach the point. There is not a single instance that they have reached the point.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG13812BombayOctober21973_15" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="358" link="Lecture on BG 13.8-12 -- Bombay, October 2, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 13.8-12 -- Bombay, October 2, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 13.8-12 -- Bombay, October 2, 1973|Lecture on BG 13.8-12 -- Bombay, October 2, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So this is the position of our going to the material planets, and what to speak of the spiritual planets? That is far, far away. You cannot travel within the space of material world.</p>
:panthās tu koti-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara. Not only one year, two years, three years or forty thousand years. Koṭi-śata-vatsara. Koṭi, you know, one hundred times lakhs makes koṭi and again multiply it by hundred. Koṭi-śata-vatsara. And the speed. What is the speed of that aeroplane? Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi. Aeroplane. Vāyur manasaḥ. And with the speed of mind. Airplane running with the speed of mind. You know what is the speed of mind. You are sitting here, and within a second your mind can go some ten thousand miles away, within a second. So even with that speed and running on, koti-sata-vatsara, you cannot go to the spiritual planet. This is the position. So 'py asti yat prapada-sīmny-avicintya-tattve. So in that way you cannot go.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG1316BombayOctober101973_16" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="364" link="Lecture on BG 13.16 -- Bombay, October 10, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 13.16 -- Bombay, October 10, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 13.16 -- Bombay, October 10, 1973|Lecture on BG 13.16 -- Bombay, October 10, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like, the same example, as we are very, very far away, ninety million miles away from the sun planet, we can touch the sunshine, not the sun planet. That is not possible. We have no such power that we can touch the... Although the sun planet is there, everyone can go and touch it, but it is beyond our power. This is the position of our material experience, and what to speak of spiritual experience?</p>
<p>About the spiritual experience, it is stated in the Brahma-saṁhitā,</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'pyasti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>There is a planet. Just like you see the sun planet. It is in your front, you are daily seeing it, but you have no power to go there. This is about the material planet, and how you can approach the spiritual planet where Kṛṣṇa lives, Goloka Vṛndāvana? Goloka eva nivasati. Everything is there, but you require power to reach.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG1316BombayOctober101973_17" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="364" link="Lecture on BG 13.16 -- Bombay, October 10, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 13.16 -- Bombay, October 10, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 13.16 -- Bombay, October 10, 1973|Lecture on BG 13.16 -- Bombay, October 10, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dūrastham. Now, you cannot calculate where this abode of God is there. Dūrastham. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara. If you go with your plane with the speed of mind, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi (Bs. 5.34), by airplane, vāyu-ratha... This vāyu airplane is mentioned in the Brahma-saṁhitā. Vāyor athāpi manasaḥ, and with the speed of mind. Muni-puṅgavānām, discovered by great scientists, still, avicintya-tattve, it is so far away. Avicintya-tattve. Therefore it is called dūrastham.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB127DelhiNovember131973_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="47" link="Lecture on SB 1.2.7 -- Delhi, November 13, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.2.7 -- Delhi, November 13, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.2.7 -- Delhi, November 13, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.2.7 -- Delhi, November 13, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So those who are searching after God, and they are, if they are making some proposition, thesis, these are all nonsense, cheating. You do not know God. You admit. That is very good. But why you are making thesis? God is not subjected to your mental speculation.</p>
<p>That is confirmed in the Brahma-saṁhitā:</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara. We have got experience of flying by the airplane. It goes five hundred, six hundred, thousand miles per hour. But here it is said panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi. On the airplane of the speed of air or on the speed of mind... You can understand the speed of mind. You are sitting here; immediately you can go to London, ten thousand miles away. The speed of mind you can understand.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB127DelhiNovember131973_1" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="47" link="Lecture on SB 1.2.7 -- Delhi, November 13, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.2.7 -- Delhi, November 13, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.2.7 -- Delhi, November 13, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.2.7 -- Delhi, November 13, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So here it is... Even on the speed of mind, not this one-thousand-mile speed or five-hundred-mile speed. On the speed of mind. The speed of mind means within second it can go millions of miles. That is the speed of mind. So it is said, panthās tu... And with that speed, if you go on, koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ, for many millions of years to find out where is God, it is impossible. You cannot. You cannot. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām (Bs. 5.34). And by whom? Muni-puṅga, great, great saintly persons. So still, avicintya-tattve, still, it remains avicintya-tattva. You cannot understand. Nāyam ātmā pravacanena labhyaḥ. In the Vedas it is said, "Simply by argument, speculation, you cannot understand." You have to understand God from God or from His representative. Otherwise it is not possible. This is the process.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1230VrndavanaNovember91972_2" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="98" link="Lecture on SB 1.2.30 -- Vrndavana, November 9, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.2.30 -- Vrndavana, November 9, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.2.30 -- Vrndavana, November 9, 1972|Lecture on SB 1.2.30 -- Vrndavana, November 9, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We cannot understand Kṛṣṇa unless we have submitted ourself under the lotus feet of the Six Gosvāmīs, Caitanya Mahāprabhu. We have to understand Kṛṣṇa in this way. It is very difficult to understand Kṛṣṇa, but by the grace of the Gosvāmīs, by the grace of Lord Caitanya, we can understand Kṛṣṇa.</p>
:athāpi te deva padāmbuja-dvaya-
:prasāda-leśānugṛhīta eva hi
:jānāti tattvaṁ bhagavan-mahimno
:na cānya eko 'pi ciraṁ vicinvan
:([[Vanisource:SB 10.14.29|SB 10.14.29]])
<p>Panthās tu... There are many shastric evidences. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām (Bs. 5.34). So by speculation, we cannot understand Kṛṣṇa. That is not possible. By mental speculation, we cannot understand Kṛṣṇa. We have to understand Kṛṣṇa as Kṛṣṇa says, or Kṛṣṇa's devotee says, the Gosvāmīs says, Caitanya Mahāprabhu says. Then we can understand how this cosmic manifestation is created, who created, how it is created. Everything will be clear. This is the beginning of such understanding.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB151213NewVrindabanJune111969_3" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="137" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.12-13 -- New Vrindaban, June 11, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.12-13 -- New Vrindaban, June 11, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.12-13 -- New Vrindaban, June 11, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.12-13 -- New Vrindaban, June 11, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That thoughtfulness will not help you, because you are conditioned. You are, you have got the four kinds of defects. So that defect will not... Simply by becoming philosopher, speculator, will not help you. Athāpi te deva ciraṁ vicinvan ([[Vanisource:SB 10.14.29|SB 10.14.29]]). You cannot understand God for millions and millions of thinking. No, it is not possible.</p>
<p>Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām (Bs. 5.34). That is stated in the Brahma-saṁhitā. Muni-puṅgava. Muni-puṅgava means "the greatest of all thoughtful men." Muni means mental speculator, and puṅgava means first class, the highest, topmost. Puṅgava. So if such thoughtful speculators go on speculating about understanding God... How? Vāyor athāpi manasaḥ.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB151213NewVrindabanJune111969_4" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="137" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.12-13 -- New Vrindaban, June 11, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.12-13 -- New Vrindaban, June 11, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.12-13 -- New Vrindaban, June 11, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.12-13 -- New Vrindaban, June 11, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So that, these are explained in the Brahma-saṁhitā. Vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām. And manufactured by greatest, stalwart thinker, or scientist. And going in this speed for many, many thousands of years. Still, you cannot reach where is Kṛṣṇaloka.</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat-prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Still... Just like when we go to the...by airplane above the cloud, we see, still, the sky is unlimited. That is our experience. Still, the sunshine is unlimited, and we do not know where is the sun. Similarly, if one goes on the plane of mind and air, try to find out the Absolute Truth, it is not possible. Even many, many years, no, no. Still it remains avicintya-tattve, still inconceivable.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1831LosAngelesApril231973_5" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="224" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The so-called scientists, also, they are trying to find out the ultimate cause, but their process is "not this." So much. As, as much they're advancing, they're finding "Not this", and what it is, they will never find. They will never find. They can say "Not this," but what it is, that is not possible. That is not possible.</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'pyasti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>So what to speak of Kṛṣṇa, even this material object. They're trying to go to the Moon planet. Actually they do not know what it is. Actually. Then why they're coming back? If they knew it perfectly, what it is, then they would have resided there by this time. They are trying for the last twenty years. Simply they are seeing: "Not this. There is no living entities. There is no possibility of our living there." So many "Nos." And what is yes? No, they do not know. And this is only one planet or one star. The moon planet is taken as star.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1831LosAngelesApril231973_6" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="224" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore in the Brahma-saṁhitā it is said: panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ (Bs. 5.34). Panthās... Koṭi-śata-vatsara. The space is unlimited. Now you take your plane or sputnik or capsule... So many things they have invented. So you go on. Now go on for how many hours or days or years? No. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara. For millions of years, koṭi-śata-vatsara, go on with your speed. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ. And how I shall go? Now on the plane which is running on the velocity of the air. Not this velocity, not this speed, 500 miles or 1000 miles per hour. No. What is the speed of air?</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1831LosAngelesApril231973_7" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="224" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Svarūpa Dāmodara: 126,000 miles per second.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: 96 miles per second. These are mentioned in the Vedic literature that if you go by this speed, air, 96 miles per second... So just imagine what is the speed of air. So panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi (Bs. 5.34). On the plane which is running on the speed of air. That speed, and for millions of years. Then again it is suggested not only on the speed of air but also on the speed of mind.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1831LosAngelesApril231973_8" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="224" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.8.31 -- Los Angeles, April 23, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manasaḥ (Bs. 5.34). And how the speed, speedy planes are manufactured? Muni-puṅgavānām. By the greatest scientists and greatest thoughtful men. By, manufactured by them. So is that perfection? No. So 'pyasti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve. Still you shall remain in inconceivable understanding what is this creation. Still, if you are so advanced that you can run on on this speed and if you are greatest scientist and thoughtful philosopher, still you'll remain in the same condition, unknown. Still.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB5518StockholmSeptember81973_9" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="524" link="Lecture on SB 5.5.1-8 -- Stockholm, September 8, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 5.5.1-8 -- Stockholm, September 8, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 5.5.1-8 -- Stockholm, September 8, 1973|Lecture on SB 5.5.1-8 -- Stockholm, September 8, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Then you come to the spiritual sky. And the spiritual sky, there are millions of planets, Vaikuṇṭha planets. And the topmost is Goloka Vṛndāvana. So just imagine how far it is, Kṛṣṇa's abode.</p>
<p>Therefore, in the Brahma-saṁhitā it is stated:</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'pyasti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>You have got now airplane. That's nice. But you cannot reach even the material planets. So if you want to go to the spiritual planet, then you can make an airplane which has speed of the mind. Or the speed of the air. Those who are physicists, they know what is the speed of air, what is the speed of light. So above this speed, the speed of mind.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB5518StockholmSeptember81973_10" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="524" link="Lecture on SB 5.5.1-8 -- Stockholm, September 8, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 5.5.1-8 -- Stockholm, September 8, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 5.5.1-8 -- Stockholm, September 8, 1973|Lecture on SB 5.5.1-8 -- Stockholm, September 8, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You can see things—with mind, of course; the mind speed. So the Brahma-saṁhitā says that even if you can manufacture one airplane which has the speed of the mind, which has the speed of the air—panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ—and with that speed you go on for many millions of years, still you will not find where is Goloka Vṛndāvana. Still, you'll not find. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām (Bs. 5.34). It is not that the previous ācāryas and others, they did not know what is airplane, what is speed, how to run. Don't think foolishly, as if they have manufactured. It is nothing, not even third-, not even fourth-class, tenth-class. There were so nice airplanes. Now here is the suggestion that you can manufacture an airplane which can run on the speed of mind. Now here is a suggestion—do it. You can manufacture an airplane which may run at the speed of the air. They are thinking that at the speed of the light, if we can manufacture one airplane, still, it will take forty thousands of years to reach the topmost planet. They're thinking, if it is possible.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB5519VrndavanaNovember71976_11" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="551" link="Lecture on SB 5.5.19 -- Vrndavana, November 7, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 5.5.19 -- Vrndavana, November 7, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 5.5.19 -- Vrndavana, November 7, 1976|Lecture on SB 5.5.19 -- Vrndavana, November 7, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The Supreme Personality says, mama: "Mine. My body. I have got My body," but durvibhāvyam.</p>
<p>So we have to understand God as He says. Don't imagine. Don't speculate. That is useless.</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṇgavānāṁ
:so 'py asti yat-prapada-sīmny avicintya tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Avicintya or durvibhāvyam, the same thing. Even if you try to understand God or want to go to God, vāyor athāpi, by your airplane at the speed of the mind, not ordinary speed... Mind's speed you can imagine. You are sitting here, and fifteen thousand miles away, New York, you can immediately see your room there.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB6131SanFranciscoJuly161975_12" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="651" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.31 -- San Francisco, July 16, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.31 -- San Francisco, July 16, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.31 -- San Francisco, July 16, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.1.31 -- San Francisco, July 16, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If you want to know Kṛṣṇa as He is, then you have to know Him through bhakti-yoga, not any other. Others, they may go on speculating for many, many millions of years. Still, they will not be able to understand.</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>For many millions of years running in the speed of mind and air, not this aeroplane speed...</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB6131SanFranciscoJuly161975_13" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="651" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.31 -- San Francisco, July 16, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.31 -- San Francisco, July 16, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.31 -- San Francisco, July 16, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.1.31 -- San Francisco, July 16, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Ten thousand miles away your mind can go immediately at a place where you have been. Mind is so speedy. Vāyu, air, is speedy undoubtedly, but mind is still speedier. So even if you try to understand with the..., panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi (Bs. 5.34), in aeroplane or via manasa, aeroplane with the... Aeroplane has got different speed, but even if you go with the mind's speed and time, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara, hundreds and millions of years, still, you will not be able to understand what is Kṛṣṇa, what is God, if you speculate. But if you are a devotee then you can see twenty-four hours Kṛṣṇa. That is the difference. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB6145LagunaBeachJuly261975_14" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="676" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.45 -- Laguna Beach, July 26, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.45 -- Laguna Beach, July 26, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.45 -- Laguna Beach, July 26, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.1.45 -- Laguna Beach, July 26, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So this is not life, that "Because I can run in more speed than the dog, therefore I am civilized."</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānāṁ
:so 'py asti yat-prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Our speed... What for speed? Because we want to go to certain destination, that is his speed. So the real destination is Govinda, Viṣṇu. And na te viduḥ svārtha-gatiṁ hi viṣṇu. They are running in different speed, but they do not know what is the destination.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB6146SanDiegoJuly271975_15" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="678" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.46 -- San Diego, July 27, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.46 -- San Diego, July 27, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.46 -- San Diego, July 27, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.1.46 -- San Diego, July 27, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If you increase your speed, then the round about time decreases. Similarly, if by yoga system you increase your speed, then you can travel all over the universe as Durvāsā Muni said. Durvāsā Muni, he crossed over this universe and went to the Vaikuṇṭhaloka. It took only one year. This is relative. It took one years only. And you cannot go in so many years. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ (Bs. 5.34). Everything is relative.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB632023GorakhpurFebruary141971_16" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="724" link="Lecture on SB 6.3.20-23 -- Gorakhpur, February 14, 1971" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.3.20-23 -- Gorakhpur, February 14, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.3.20-23 -- Gorakhpur, February 14, 1971|Lecture on SB 6.3.20-23 -- Gorakhpur, February 14, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">And the speculation continues by, continues to hundreds and hundreds of years. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara. Śata means hundred, and koṭi means ten million. So ten million into hundred—unlimited time. If you go on speculating, by speculation, panthās tu koṭi, still, your conception of God or religion will remain incomplete. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi (Bs. 5.34). By airplane, with the speed of the mind... There are different airplanes, and they have got different speeds. Now, if you manufacture an airplane which runs with the speed of the mind... You know the speed of the mind.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB762023WashingtonDCJuly31976_17" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="773" link="Lecture on SB 7.6.20-23 -- Washington D.C., July 3, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.6.20-23 -- Washington D.C., July 3, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.6.20-23 -- Washington D.C., July 3, 1976|Lecture on SB 7.6.20-23 -- Washington D.C., July 3, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So here, our position in this material world: darkness. We are simply speculating in so many ways what is the ultimate cause. There are so many philosophers, but they are speculating only without any definite knowledge. So śāstra says that speculative knowledge will not be successful at any time. In the Brahma-saṁhitā it is said that panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām (Bs. 5.34). Manaso, by mental speculation, muni-puṅgavānām, one who speculates, he is called muni. So muni-puṅgava. Puṅgava means the most exalted muni, if he simply speculates about the Absolute Truth, how many years? Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB762023WashingtonDCJuly31976_18" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="773" link="Lecture on SB 7.6.20-23 -- Washington D.C., July 3, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.6.20-23 -- Washington D.C., July 3, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.6.20-23 -- Washington D.C., July 3, 1976|Lecture on SB 7.6.20-23 -- Washington D.C., July 3, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If we actually accept that Veda means knowledge... Vetthi veda vida jñāne. Veda means knowledge, jñāna. So Veda-anta, the last, last phase of knowledge. The last phase of knowledge is the Absolute Truth. You have to go up to that. So that Absolute Truth, if you go on speculating, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo (Bs. 5.34), that will not be possible. Śata-vatsara-sampragamyo, by hundreds and hundreds of years, if you go on with speed... What is that speed? Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi. Airplane, vāyor athāpi. And what is the speed? Vāyor athāpi, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso. By the speed of air and mind. Mind is very speedy. You are sitting here, you can immediately remember ten thousand miles away, it is so speedy. So even by the mind's speed you cannot, by going over the space, koṭi-śata-vatsara, many millions of years still it remains unknown. So this is not the way to understand the Absolute truth, but if we accept the Vedic process, avaroha panthā, when the knowledge comes from the Absolute Truth, then it is possible.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB798SeattleOctober211968_19" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="797" link="Lecture on SB 7.9.8 -- Seattle, October 21, 1968" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.9.8 -- Seattle, October 21, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.9.8 -- Seattle, October 21, 1968|Lecture on SB 7.9.8 -- Seattle, October 21, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So there are many different planets within this universe and beyond this universe, spiritual planets. Keśava tuar jagata vicitra. God's creation is very variety. So we should not think that this is all in all. This is that Dr. Frog's knowledge. Dr. Frog knows that "This small well is everything." He has no knowledge of the Pacific Ocean. Similarly, these Dr. Frogs of this material world, they are thinking this planet is all in all. And 25,000 miles up this planet, that is all space. No.</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat-prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Brahmā, the first class, the first living entity within this universe, he says that panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso. If you, not to speak of these airplanes, but if you can prepare a plane of the mental plane... Just like mental plane, you are sitting here, you can immediately transfer yourself ten thousand miles away or more than that, immediately, within a second. Just like I am here in America, Los Angeles, and India is about fifteen thousand miles away from this place, but immediately, within second, I can think that I'm sitting in my room there. How it is? The mind is so forceful.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB798SeattleOctober211968_20" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="797" link="Lecture on SB 7.9.8 -- Seattle, October 21, 1968" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.9.8 -- Seattle, October 21, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.9.8 -- Seattle, October 21, 1968|Lecture on SB 7.9.8 -- Seattle, October 21, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is practical. You can transfer your mind immediately. So how can you compare with these airplanes? Can the airplanes... Airplanes means vāyu. Vāyu means air. These are all in Sanskrit language in the scriptures. These are not very new things. You see? Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor atha (Bs. 5.34). Vāyu means air, and ratha means plane, airplane. So either by the airplane... Airplane is not so speedy. The jet planes are running at the rate of five hundred miles or one thousand miles per hour, but my mental plane can run fifteen thousand miles per second. You see? And just understand then the spirit, how much speedy the spirit should be. Because here, matter, there are matter: earth, water, fire... Then air.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB7921MayapurFebruary281976_21" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="829" link="Lecture on SB 7.9.21 -- Mayapur, February 28, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.9.21 -- Mayapur, February 28, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.9.21 -- Mayapur, February 28, 1976|Lecture on SB 7.9.21 -- Mayapur, February 28, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">There is no need of God. Now we shall do everything. We are advanced in science..." This is called māyā manaḥ. These rascals, thinking like that... It will never be possible. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām (Bs. 5.34). Great, a great muni... Muni means mental speculators. They're thinking within the mind this, that, this, that, this, that. Muni-puṅgavānām. Puṅgava. Puṅgava means very expert mental speculator. Even they think like that for many, many years... Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara. Koṭi means hundred lakhs, and again multiplied by sata, sata, unlimited. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo (Bs. 5.34). And the speed? Vāyor athāpi manaso, speed of the air and the mind. Still, avicintya-tattve: they cannot understand what is God. Ask any scientist, any physicist, any mathematician. Just like recently one rascal—he is doctor—he has said that "Sītā was sister of Rāma, and Rāma was this and that." So speculator. He has become bigger than the ācāryas, and because he has got little doctorate title, he's thinking that he has become very, very big. This is going on.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB7934MayapurMarch121976_22" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="841" link="Lecture on SB 7.9.34 -- Mayapur, March 12, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.9.34 -- Mayapur, March 12, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.9.34 -- Mayapur, March 12, 1976|Lecture on SB 7.9.34 -- Mayapur, March 12, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">God is all-spirit, and He can be understood by spiritual method, not material method. Material method means up to the standard of mental speculation and mental concoction. That is not the way. Mano-rathena āsato dhāvato bahiḥ. In the Brahma-saṁhitā it is also said,</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat-prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>By mental speculation, mental speed, you cannot reach the spiritual world. Mental speed is very strong. Everyone, we have got experience—you are sitting here. Immediately, within a second, you can go to our London temple by the mental speed. So even by the mental speed for many, many years, if we run over the space, still, we cannot reach the spiritual world. That is not possible.</p>
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<div id="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Lectures" text="Nectar of Devotion Lectures"><h3>Nectar of Devotion Lectures</h3>
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionVrndavanaOctober181972_0" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="5" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 18, 1972" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 18, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 18, 1972|The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 18, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">But the atheists, they ask, "Can you show me Kṛṣṇa? Can you show me God?" The reply is, "Have you got the eyes to see Kṛṣṇa?" It is not so easy, Kṛṣṇa. In the Brahma-saṁhitā it is said,</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'pyasti yat-prapadya-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Govinda. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo. Pantha means road. If you walk over the path of Kṛṣṇa... Suppose Kṛṣṇa, there is Kṛṣṇaloka. Above this material universe, there is another spiritual sky, paravyoma. It is called paravyoma. That is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gītā, paras tasmāt tu bhāvaḥ anyaḥ 'vyakta 'vyaktāt sanātanaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 8.20 (1972)|BG 8.20]]). There is another nature.</p>
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<div id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Lectures" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures"><h3>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonCCAdilila19MayapurApril21975_0" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="9" link="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.9 -- Mayapur, April 2, 1975" link_text="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.9 -- Mayapur, April 2, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.9 -- Mayapur, April 2, 1975|Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.9 -- Mayapur, April 2, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So this is not... Besides that, we have to accept the Vedic injunction, śāstric injunction, not nonsensical theories. If we are guided by nonsensical theories, then we'll never be able to understand how things are going on.</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat-prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>You can go on observing, one after another, by many, many years, many, many years. Just like if you start your jet plane from here to see where is the original cause, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara, and go on for many, many millions of years with the speed of mind, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampra... Koṭi-śata-vatsara... Millions and millions of years. And panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi. These airplanes, vāyu-ratha... Vāyu-ratha means airplane. There is airplanes. There are different speeds. What is the speed? The speed is mental speed. Now their speed, say, eighteen thousand miles per hour.</p>
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<div id="LectureonCCAdilila38788NewYorkDecember271966_1" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="18" link="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 3.87-88 -- New York, December 27, 1966" link_text="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 3.87-88 -- New York, December 27, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Adi-lila 3.87-88 -- New York, December 27, 1966|Lecture on CC Adi-lila 3.87-88 -- New York, December 27, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If you want, you can go on researching. But you will never be successful to... Even in the Brahma-saṁhitā it is stated, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ (Bs. 5.34) If you make research in a speed, and the speed is stated, koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām... Just like if you want to cover a path which is very long, and how you measure its length? Now, by research. What is that research? Now, you go on by force. What is that force? The force of mind and force of velocity of the wind, velocity of the wind and velocity of the mind.</p>
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<div id="LectureonCCMadhyalila6154GorakhpurFebruary161971_2" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="43" link="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 6.154 -- Gorakhpur, February 16, 1971" link_text="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 6.154 -- Gorakhpur, February 16, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 6.154 -- Gorakhpur, February 16, 1971|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 6.154 -- Gorakhpur, February 16, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Not in one life, but many, many births. "One, when actually intelligent, jñānavān, actually wise, he surrenders unto Me." Why should you wait for many, many births? Supposing that you are very intelligent, you are very wise, you are speculating, but according to Bhagavad-gītā, why should you waste your time in that way, speculating? Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ (Bs. 5.34). Speculating process will not help you. Ciraṁ vicinvan.</p>
:athāpi te deva padāmbuja-dvaya-
:prasāda-leśānugṛhīta eva hi
:jānāti tattvaṁ (bhagavan-mahimno)
:na cānya eko 'pi ciraṁ vicinvan
:([[Vanisource:SB 10.14.29|SB 10.14.29]])
<p>One who has not received the favor of the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa, it is not possible to understand Kṛṣṇa. Bhakto 'si priyo 'si me ([[Vanisource:BG 4.3 (1972)|BG 4.3]]). Just like Arjuna understood Kṛṣṇa because he was a bhakta, he was a dear friend of Kṛṣṇa. So you have to become a dear friend, a bhakta, of Kṛṣṇa; then you'll understand what is Bhagavad-gītā, and then you'll be able to surrender unto Him.</p>
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<div id="Festival_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Lectures" text="Festival Lectures"><h3>Festival Lectures</h3>
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<div id="JanmastamiLordSriKrsnasAppearanceDayMontrealAugust161968_0" class="quote" parent="Festival_Lectures" book="Lec" index="19" link="Janmastami Lord Sri Krsna's Appearance Day -- Montreal, August 16, 1968" link_text="Janmastami Lord Sri Krsna's Appearance Day -- Montreal, August 16, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Janmastami Lord Sri Krsna's Appearance Day -- Montreal, August 16, 1968|Janmastami Lord Sri Krsna's Appearance Day -- Montreal, August 16, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">(govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi)</p>
:advaitam acyutam anādim ananta-rūpam
:ādyaṁ purāṇa-puruṣaṁ nava-yauvanaṁ ca
:vedeṣu durlabham adurlabham ātma-bhaktau
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.33)
:(govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi)
:panthāstu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānāṁ
:so 'pyasti yat prapada-sīmny-avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi)
<p>So today, the birth appearance ceremony of Lord Kṛṣṇa. In the Bhagavad-gītā the Lord says,</p>
:janma karma me divyaṁ
:yo jānāti tattvataḥ
:tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma
:naiti mām eti kaunteya
:([[Vanisource:BG 4.9 (1972)|BG 4.9]])
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<div id="JanmastamiLordSriKrsnasAppearanceDayMontrealAugust161968_1" class="quote" parent="Festival_Lectures" book="Lec" index="19" link="Janmastami Lord Sri Krsna's Appearance Day -- Montreal, August 16, 1968" link_text="Janmastami Lord Sri Krsna's Appearance Day -- Montreal, August 16, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Janmastami Lord Sri Krsna's Appearance Day -- Montreal, August 16, 1968|Janmastami Lord Sri Krsna's Appearance Day -- Montreal, August 16, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In this way, if we try to understand in truth, then we can understand what is God. Superficially, if we try to understand by our experimental knowledge, then it is not possible to understand God.</p>
:panthāstu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānāṁ
:so 'pyasti yat prapada-sīmny-avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
<p>The Brahma-saṁhitā said that if one starts on the chariot of air and makes progress on the speed of mind, still one cannot understand what is God. Vedeṣu durlabham adurlabham ātma-bhaktau (Bs. 5.33). He cannot be understood simply by studying Vedas. Traiguṇya viṣayā vedaḥ nistraiguṇyo bhavārjuna. One has to transcend the position of Vedas also. Then one can understand what is God or what is Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="Arrival_Addresses_and_Talks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Lectures" text="Arrival Addresses and Talks"><h3>Arrival Addresses and Talks</h3>
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<div id="ArrivalAddressLondonJuly71973_0" class="quote" parent="Arrival_Addresses_and_Talks" book="Lec" index="10" link="Arrival Address -- London, July 7, 1973" link_text="Arrival Address -- London, July 7, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Arrival Address -- London, July 7, 1973|Arrival Address -- London, July 7, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So far Gopījana-vallabha, Rādhā-Mādhava, our simple worshipable Supreme Personality of Godhead, Rādhā-Mādhava, He is always enjoying in company with Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī, Rādhā-Mādhava. He does not go outside Vṛndāvana. Kṛṣṇa, original Kṛṣṇa, He does not go even a step out of Vṛndāvana, leaving aside the gopīs. Vṛndāvanaṁ parityajya na padam ekaṁ kutra gacchati. He does not go anywhere.</p>
<p>So people are making research to find out God. In the Brahma-saṁhitā it is said,</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat-prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Govinda, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ. Those who are searching after God... Those who are not searching, they are useless. Those who are searching, jñānī, jijñāsu, so they are searching after God, but if they try to approach God, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara, by... Just like airplane.</p>
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<div id="Initiation_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Lectures" text="Initiation Lectures"><h3>Initiation Lectures</h3>
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<div id="InitiationLectureNewYorkJuly281971_0" class="quote" parent="Initiation_Lectures" book="Lec" index="39" link="Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971" link_text="Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971|Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">...athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo (Bs. 5.34). The sky is so vast. This is material sky. We cannot even travel all over the sky. The modern scientist says that you go to the end of the sky cover, it will take forty thousands of years by the light year. This sky is only insignificant portion of the whole sky.</p>
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<div id="InitiationLectureNewYorkJuly281971_1" class="quote" parent="Initiation_Lectures" book="Lec" index="39" link="Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971" link_text="Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971|Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The balance sky is spiritual sky. So if you have got any plane which is running on the speed of mind and air... You know the speed of mind, it can run millions of miles in a second. So, if you have got any airplane which runs on the speed of mind, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso, either on the plane of air speed or even the mind speed, and you go on with that mind speed, koṭi-śata-vatsara, not only forty thousand years, but millions and hundreds of millions of years, and not forty thousand years, koṭi-śata... Koṭi means ten million. Koṭi, hundred millions koṭi means.</p>
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<div id="InitiationLectureNewYorkJuly281971_2" class="quote" parent="Initiation_Lectures" book="Lec" index="39" link="Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971" link_text="Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971|Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">One lakh equal to..., ten lakh is equal to one million. Ten millions, koṭi, and multiply by hundreds. For that period, if you go on with the speed of mind, still you'll find, avacintya-tattva, inconceivable. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām. And that plane made of not ordinary man. Muni-puṅga, highest learned, I mean to say, scientist, philosopher. Still avacintya tattva.</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat-prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
:Still it will remain avacintya-tattva.
<p>Avacintya means beyond our conception. Even though you are able to go in high speed, and for so many years, still Kṛṣṇa remains avacintya-tattva. Nobody can find out where is Kṛṣṇa's abode, Goloka Vṛndāvana. Therefore, the Māyāvādīs, in desperate frustration, they say that Kṛṣṇa is impersonal, because they want to approach Kṛṣṇa by mundane activities, by mental exercise, mental gymnastic.</p>
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<div id="InitiationLectureNewYorkJuly281971_3" class="quote" parent="Initiation_Lectures" book="Lec" index="39" link="Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971" link_text="Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971|Initiation Lecture -- New York, July 28, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Kṛṣṇa is not available in that way. Kṛṣṇa is available only to His devotees. Kṛṣṇa is the property of His devotee.</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat-prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
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<div id="General_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Lectures" text="General Lectures"><h3>General Lectures</h3>
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<div id="PandalLectureatCrossMaidanBombayMarch261971_0" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="78" link="Pandal Lecture at Cross Maidan -- Bombay, March 26, 1971" link_text="Pandal Lecture at Cross Maidan -- Bombay, March 26, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Pandal Lecture at Cross Maidan -- Bombay, March 26, 1971|Pandal Lecture at Cross Maidan -- Bombay, March 26, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is nyāya-śāstra. In Sanskrit there is nyāya-śāstra. So they are taught how to defeat his opponent. Therefore the Absolute Truth you cannot understand by argument, by material dealings. In the Brahma-saṁhitā it is said,</p>
:panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo
:vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām
:so 'py asti yat-prapada-sīmny avicintya-tattve
:govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
:(Bs. 5.34)
<p>Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyaḥ. (microphone goes out) Just like in the material science they are trying to go to the moon planet or other planets also by certain standard of speed in the sputnik. (aside:) It is not working? (microphone comes back on) They are finding it difficult even to go to the moon planet, which is the nearest planet to the earth.</p>
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<div id="LectureNelloreJanuary41976_1" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="167" link="Lecture -- Nellore, January 4, 1976" link_text="Lecture -- Nellore, January 4, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture -- Nellore, January 4, 1976|Lecture -- Nellore, January 4, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So we have to follow mahājana because we are tiny living entities. We cannot speculate. This is nonsense. Speculation is nonsense. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso (Bs. 5.34). If we speculate we shall never reach the Absolute Truth. That is not possible. But power is very limited. How long I shall speculate? This is called kūpa-maṇḍūka-nyāya. Just like a frog in the well is informed by his friend, "My dear friend, Mr. Frog, or Dr. Frog, I have seen a big, vast mass of water, Atlantic Ocean." The frog, he has never seen the Atlantic Ocean.</p>
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<div id="Philosophy_Discussions" class="sub_section" sec_index="13" parent="Lectures" text="Philosophy Discussions"><h3>Philosophy Discussions</h3>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononImmanuelKant_0" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="3" link="Philosophy Discussion on Immanuel Kant" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Immanuel Kant">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Immanuel Kant|Philosophy Discussion on Immanuel Kant]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That is misleading. Nobody can ascertain in that way. That is not possible. In the śāstras it is said that panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamya. He is thinking he is a man living for fifty or sixty or a hundred years. But if somebody is there, just like modern, these sputnik scientists, they say that if one can go forty thousands of years at the speed of light, he can approach the topmost planet. So śāstra says even one goes forty thousands of years, still you won't find where is Kṛṣṇa, where is Kṛṣṇa's abode. Not only at the speed of light, but he says the speed of mind and air. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām: (Bs. 5.34) still, the subject matter which is beyond my senses will remain the same, beyond my senses. This material attempt will not help. Never. There is another verse that adhane gopī chindan vidhena ataḥ pudedevo padamjadayan (?): "Dear Lord, a devotee who has got a little grace from your lotus feet, padamjadaya (?), he can understand You. Others, they may speculate for millions of years. Still it is not possible."</p>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkJanuary111974LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="7" link="Morning Walk -- January 11, 1974, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- January 11, 1974, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 11, 1974, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- January 11, 1974, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Gurukṛpā: It says in the Brahma-saṁhitā that they may go for the speed of...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Gurukṛpā: ...the mind, but...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-saṁpragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām (Bs. 5.34). Just like child. We are experiencing. As soon as we finish, cries. And give him something. "All right." So there must be something positive. Simply taking away, vacant that will not satisfy. He'll have to cry again, "Oh, I am vacant. I am vacant." So Māyāvādīs' position is like that. The karmīs, yogis, jñānīs, all they are fools. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-dharmān parityajya. ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66 (1972)|BG 18.66]]) "You rascal, you give up all these karmīs, yogis, jñānī, siddhi... Kick out." Mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja. This is the instruction. "Only unto Me. Then you'll be satisfied." Then the karmīs may say, "Oh..." Because he has got idea, without working...</p>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkNovember111975Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="237" link="Morning Walk -- November 11, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- November 11, 1975, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- November 11, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- November 11, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: ...slowly and slowly. They have their own way.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: if you do not know what is that higher.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: They have tried to know, sir.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This kind of will not help them. No, no. That is the... That is there. They'll not know. Panthās tu koṭi-śatavatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām, so 'pyasti yat-prapada-sīmny avicintya tattve. Still it will remain inconceivable. These rascals, they do not know that. You have to simply hear from Kṛṣṇa that there is another atom, apareyam. These are inferior. Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parām. There is another atom. What is that? That is jīva-bhūtaḥ. You have to take this knowledge from Kṛṣṇa, not by searching out. How you can find out one ten-thousandth part of it? It is not possible. You have no machine, no source of knowledge.</p>
<p>Brahmānanda: These particles that they have just recently found, the life-span is incredibly small, one-millionth of a trillionth of a second.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkConversationJune201976Toronto_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="151" link="Morning Walk Conversation -- June 20, 1976, Toronto" link_text="Morning Walk Conversation -- June 20, 1976, Toronto">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk Conversation -- June 20, 1976, Toronto|Morning Walk Conversation -- June 20, 1976, Toronto]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda:  Every day, every moment, we are seeing so many wonderful things. How you are thinking.... "I am Dr. Frog. Pacific Ocean may be four feet. All right, five feet. Make compromise, ten feet." (laughter) Rascal. If you think for many millions of years, then you'll have no solution. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo (Bs. 5.34). It is not possible in that way. They have no idea of God.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: Everything is there, but actually they don't see.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Because they are not devotee. Paśyanti jñāna-cakṣuṣā. Mām ebhyaḥ param, mūḍhā nābhijānāti mām ebhyaḥ parama-avyayam. Paraṁ bhāvam ajānantaḥ. Paraṁ bhāvam ajānantaḥ. They have no knowledge.</p>
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<div id="LifeComesFromLifeSlideshowDiscussionsJuly31976WashingtonDC_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="180" link="'Life Comes From Life' Slideshow Discussions -- July 3, 1976, Washington, D.C." link_text="'Life Comes From Life' Slideshow Discussions -- July 3, 1976, Washington, D.C.">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:'Life Comes From Life' Slideshow Discussions -- July 3, 1976, Washington, D.C.|'Life Comes From Life' Slideshow Discussions -- July 3, 1976, Washington, D.C.]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Svarūpa Dāmodara: And He is puruṣa, He's a person. Now how the Absolute Truth is to be known? In Bhagavad-gītā it is described bhaktyā mām abhijānāti ([[Vanisource:BG 18.55 (1972)|BG 18.55]]). The Absolute Truth must be understood as He is only by devotional service. So...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Otherwise, it is not possible. That I explained this morning, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-sampragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām, so 'pyasti yat prapada-sīmny avincintya-tattve (Bs. 5.34). Without bhakti, if you go on speculating for many, many years with the speed of mind, if you want to go, still avincintya-tattve, it will remain inconceivable.</p>
<p>Svarūpa Dāmodara: So what it means is that in order to understand this distinction between life and matter one must be a devotee.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkJuly201976NewYork_2" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="224" link="Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York" link_text="Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York|Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That will remain everlastingly unknown. They'll never be able to push. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-saṁpragamyaḥ. What is this speed? Even with the speed of mind and air they go many, many millions of years, it will still be... This verse of Brahma-saṁhitā, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-saṁpragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām, so 'py asti avicintya-tattve (Bs. 5.34).  It is inconceivable. It will never be done. They have some vague idea, "There is no life. There is this. There is that." That's... Real knowledge they'll never get. Real knowledge you'll get from Bhāgavata.</p>
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