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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam" class="section" sec_index="1" parent="compilation" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam"><h2>Srimad-Bhagavatam</h2>
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<div id="SB_Preface_and_Introduction" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Preface and Introduction"><h3>SB Preface and Introduction</h3>
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<div id="SBIntroduction_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Preface_and_Introduction" book="SB" index="1" link="SB Introduction" link_text="SB Introduction">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB Introduction|SB Introduction]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The Muslim magistrate of Navadvīpa took up the complaints of the brāhmaṇas seriously, and at first he warned the followers of Nimāi Paṇḍita not to chant loudly the name of Hari. But Lord Caitanya asked His followers to disobey the orders of the Kazi, and they went on with their saṅkīrtana (chanting) party as usual. The magistrate then sent constables who interrupted a saṅkīrtana and broke some of the mṛdaṅgas (drums).</p>
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<div id="SBIntroduction_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Preface_and_Introduction" book="SB" index="1" link="SB Introduction" link_text="SB Introduction">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB Introduction|SB Introduction]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">He organized a procession of one hundred thousand men with thousands of mṛdaṅgas and karatālas (hand cymbals), and this procession passed over the roads of Navadvīpa in defiance of the Kazi who had issued the order. Finally the procession reached the house of the Kazi, who went upstairs out of fear of the masses. The great crowds assembled at the Kazi's house displayed a violent temper, but the Lord asked them to be peaceful. At this time the Kazi came down and tried to pacify the Lord by addressing Him as his nephew. He pointed out that Nīlāmbara Cakravartī referred to him as an uncle, and consequently, Śrīmatī Śacīdevī, the mother of Nimāi Paṇḍita, was his sister. He asked the Lord whether his sister's son could be angry at His maternal uncle, and the Lord replied that since the Kazi was His maternal uncle he should receive his nephew well at his home. In this way the issue was mitigated, and the two learned scholars began a long discussion on the Koran and Hindu śāstras. The Lord raised the question of cow-killing, and the Kazi properly answered Him by referring to the Koran. In turn the Kazi also questioned the Lord about cow sacrifice in the Vedas, and the Lord replied that such sacrifice as mentioned in the Vedas is not actually cow-killing.</p>
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<div id="SBIntroduction_2" class="quote" parent="SB_Preface_and_Introduction" book="SB" index="1" link="SB Introduction" link_text="SB Introduction">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB Introduction|SB Introduction]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In fact, in Kali-yuga all yajñas (sacrifices) are forbidden because they are useless attempts by foolish men. In Kali-yuga only the saṅkīrtana yajña is recommended for all practical purposes. Speaking in this way, the Lord finally convinced the Kazi, who became the Lord's follower. The Kazi thenceforth declared that no one should hinder the saṅkīrtana movement which was started by the Lord, and the Kazi left this order in his will for the sake of progeny. The Kazi's tomb still exists in the area of Navadvīpa, and Hindu pilgrims go there to show their respects. The Kazi's descendants are residents, and they never objected to saṅkīrtana, even during the Hindu-Muslim riot days.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_1" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 1"><h3>SB Canto 1</h3>
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<div id="SB1324_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_1" book="SB" index="80" link="SB 1.3.24" link_text="SB 1.3.24">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 1.3.24|SB 1.3.24, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The subject matter has already been discussed in the conversation between Lord Caitanya and Maulana Chand Kazi Shaheb. The animal sacrifice as stated in the Vedas is different from the unrestricted animal-killing in the slaughterhouse. Because the asuras or the so-called scholars of Vedic literatures put forward the evidence of animal-killing in the Vedas, Lord Buddha superficially denied the authority of the Vedas. This rejection of the Vedas by Lord Buddha was adopted in order to save people from the vice of animal-killing as well as to save the poor animals from the slaughtering process of their big brothers who clamor for universal brotherhood, peace, justice and equity. There is no justice when there is animal-killing.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_3" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 3"><h3>SB Canto 3</h3>
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<div id="SB31637_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="667" link="SB 3.16.37" link_text="SB 3.16.37">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.16.37|SB 3.16.37, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">He was a great devotee who came into this material world to execute the will of the Lord by preaching the Lord's glories. But Haridāsa was punished at the hands of the Kazi by being beaten in twenty-two marketplaces. Similarly, Lord Jesus Christ was crucified, and Prahlāda Mahārāja was put through so many tribulations. The Pāṇḍavas, who were direct friends of Kṛṣṇa, lost their kingdom, their wife was insulted, and they had to undergo many severe tribulations. Seeing all these reverses affect devotees, one should not be disturbed; one should simply understand that in these matters there must be some plan of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_4" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 4"><h3>SB Canto 4</h3>
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<div id="SB42957_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_4" book="SB" index="1280" link="SB 4.29.57" link_text="SB 4.29.57">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 4.29.57|SB 4.29.57, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">When Caitanya Mahāprabhu started this movement, the priestly class lodged complaints to the Kazi, the magistrate of the Muhammadan government. Caitanya Mahāprabhu had to lead a civil disobedience movement against the propaganda of the so-called followers of Vedic principles. These people are described as karma jaḍa-smārtas, which indicates that they are priests engaged in ritualistic ceremonies. It is here stated that such people become bewildered (ṛṣayo 'pi hi muhyanti). To save oneself from the hands of these karma jaḍa-smārtas, one should strictly follow the instructions of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.</p>
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<div id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" class="section" sec_index="2" parent="compilation" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta"><h2>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta</h2>
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<div id="CC_Adi-lila" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" text="CC Adi-lila"><h3>CC Adi-lila</h3>
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<div id="CCAdi1053_0" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="1308" link="CC Adi 10.53" link_text="CC Adi 10.53">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 10.53|CC Adi 10.53, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">When Śrīla Gadādhara dāsa Prabhu was preaching the cult of hari-kīrtana, there was a magistrate who was very much against his saṅkīrtana movement. Following in the footsteps of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu, Śrīla Gadādhara dāsa one night went to the house of the Kazi and requested him to chant the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra. The Kazi replied, "All right, I shall chant Hare Kṛṣṇa tomorrow." On hearing this, Śrīla Gadādhara dāsa Prabhu began to dance, and he said, "Why tomorrow? You have already chanted the Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, so simply continue."</p>
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<div id="CCAdi1067_1" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="1322" link="CC Adi 10.67" link_text="CC Adi 10.67">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 10.67|CC Adi 10.67, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">When Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu started His civil disobedience movement in defiance of the Kazi, Śrīdhara danced in jubilation. The Lord used to drink water from his water jug. Śrīdhara presented a squash to Śacīdevī to cook before Lord Caitanya took sannyāsa. Every year he went to see Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu at Jagannātha Purī. According to Kavi-karṇapūra, Śrīdhara was a cowherd boy of Vṛndāvana whose name was Kusumāsava.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi1360_2" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="1630" link="CC Adi 13.60" link_text="CC Adi 13.60">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 13.60|CC Adi 13.60, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">This fact is mentioned in the book Prema-vilāsa. Because he lived near the house of the Kazi, the Kazi was also considered one of the maternal uncles of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu. The Kazi used to address Nīlāmbara Cakravartī as kākā, or "uncle." One cannot separate the residence of the Kazi from Vāmanapukura because the tomb of the Kazi is still existing there. Formerly the place was known as Belapukuriyā, and now it is called Vāmanapukura. This has been ascertained by archeological evidence.”</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17Summary_3" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="1940" link="CC Adi 17 Summary" link_text="CC Adi 17 Summary">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17 Summary|CC Adi 17 Summary]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In this chapter we shall find descriptions of the mango distribution festival and Lord Caitanya's discourses with Chand Kazi. Finally, the chapter shows that the same son of mother Yaśodā, Lord Kṛṣṇa, tasted four transcendental mellows of devotional service in His form of Śacīnandana, the son of mother Śacī. To understand Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī’s ecstatic love for Him, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa assumed the form of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi1770_4" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2007" link="CC Adi 17.70" link_text="CC Adi 17.70">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.70|CC Adi 17.70, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">After the mass nagara-saṅkīrtana in protest against the magistrate Chand Kazi, the Kazi was converted to a devotee. Then Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu returned with His saṅkīrtana party to the house of Śrīdhara, and Chand Kazi followed Him. All the devotees rested there for some time and drank water from Śrīdhara's damaged iron pot. The Lord accepted the water because the pot belonged to a devotee. Chand Kazi then returned home.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17124_5" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2061" link="CC Adi 17.124" link_text="CC Adi 17.124">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.124|CC Adi 17.124, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Hearing the resounding vibration of the Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, the local Muslims, greatly angry, submitted a complaint to the Kazi.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17124_6" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2061" link="CC Adi 17.124" link_text="CC Adi 17.124">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.124|CC Adi 17.124, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The phaujadarā, or city magistrate, was called the kājī (Kazi). The jamidāras (zamindars), or landholders (maṇḍalerās), levied taxes on the land, but keeping law and order and punishing criminals was the duty entrusted to the Kazi. Both the Kazi and the landholders were under the control of the governor of Bengal, which at that time was known as Subā-bāṅgālā. The districts of Nadia, Islāmpura and Bāgoyāna were all under the zamindar named Hari Hoḍa or his descendant known as Hoḍa Kṛṣṇadāsa. It is said that Chand Kazi was the spiritual master of Nawab Hussain Shah. According to one opinion his name was Maulānā Sirājuddina, and according to another his name was Habibara Rahamāna. Descendants of Chand Kazi are still living in the vicinity of Māyāpur. People still go to see the tomb of Chand Kazi, which is underneath a campaka tree and is known as Chand Kazi's samādhi.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17125_7" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2062" link="CC Adi 17.125" link_text="CC Adi 17.125">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.125|CC Adi 17.125, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Chand Kazi angrily came to one home in the evening, and when he saw kīrtana going on, he broke a mṛdaṅga and spoke as follows.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17126_8" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2063" link="CC Adi 17.126" link_text="CC Adi 17.126">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.126|CC Adi 17.126, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">It appears that from the aggression of Baktiyār Khiliji in Bengal until the time of Chand Kazi, Hindus, or the followers of the Vedic principles, were greatly suppressed. Like the Hindus in present-day Pakistan, practically no one could execute the Hindu religious principles freely. Chand Kazi referred to this condition of Hindu society. Formerly the Hindus had not been straightforward in executing their Hindu principles, but now they were freely chanting the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra. Therefore it must have been by the strength of someone else that they were so daring.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17128_9" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2065" link="CC Adi 17.128" link_text="CC Adi 17.128">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.128|CC Adi 17.128, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">None of the Muslims came from outside; social customs somehow or other forced Hindus to become Muslims, with no chance of returning to Hindu society. Emperor Aurangzeb also inaugurated a tax that Hindus had to pay because of their being Hindus. Thus all the poor Hindus of the lower class voluntarily became Muslims to avoid the tax. In this way the Muslim population in India increased. Chand Kazi threatened to convert the people into Muslims by the simple process of sprinkling water on their bodies.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17129_10" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2066" link="CC Adi 17.129" link_text="CC Adi 17.129">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.129|CC Adi 17.129, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">After saying this, the Kazi returned home, and the devotees, greatly shocked that they were forbidden to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, submitted their grief to Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17130_11" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2067" link="CC Adi 17.130" link_text="CC Adi 17.130">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.130|CC Adi 17.130, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Gandhi is known for having started the movement of nonviolent civil disobedience in India, but about five hundred years before him, Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu started His movement of nonviolent civil disobedience to the order of Chand Kazi. It is not necessary to commit violence to stop the opposition from hindering a movement, for one can kill their demoniac behavior with reason and argument. Following in the footsteps of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu, whenever there are obstacles the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement should kill the opposition with reason and argument and thus stop their demoniac behavior. If we became violent in every case, it would be difficult for us to manage our affairs. We should therefore follow in the footsteps of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu, who disobeyed the order of Chand Kazi but subdued him with reason and argument.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17131_12" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2068" link="CC Adi 17.131" link_text="CC Adi 17.131">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.131|CC Adi 17.131, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Returning home, all the citizens began performing saṅkīrtana, but because of the order of the Kazi, they were not carefree but always full of anxiety.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17134_13" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2071" link="CC Adi 17.134" link_text="CC Adi 17.134">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.134|CC Adi 17.134, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">"In the evening, burn torchlights in every home. I shall give protection to everyone. Let us see what kind of Kazi comes to stop our kīrtana."</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17139_14" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2076" link="CC Adi 17.139" link_text="CC Adi 17.139">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.139|CC Adi 17.139, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Performing kīrtana in this way, circumambulating through every nook and corner of the city, they finally reached the door of the Kazi.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17140_15" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2077" link="CC Adi 17.140" link_text="CC Adi 17.140">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.140|CC Adi 17.140, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The Kazi had issued an order not to perform kīrtana, congregational chanting of the holy name of the Lord. But when this was brought up to Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He ordered civil disobedience to the Kazi's order. Lord Caitanya and all His devotees, naturally enthusiastic although agitated, must have made a great noise with their loud cries.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17141_16" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2078" link="CC Adi 17.141" link_text="CC Adi 17.141">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.141|CC Adi 17.141, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">The loud sound of the chanting of the Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra certainly made the Kazi very much afraid, and he hid himself within his room. Hearing the people thus protesting, murmuring in great anger, the Kazi would not come out of his home.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17141_17" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2078" link="CC Adi 17.141" link_text="CC Adi 17.141">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.141|CC Adi 17.141, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The Kazi's order not to perform saṅkīrtana could stand only as long as there was no civil disobedience. Under the leadership of the Supreme Lord, Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, the chanters, increasing in number, disobeyed the order of the Kazi. Thousands assembled together and formed parties, chanting the Hare Kṛṣṇa mahā-mantra and making a tumultuous sound of protest. Thus the Kazi was very much afraid, as naturally one should be under such circumstances.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17141_18" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2078" link="CC Adi 17.141" link_text="CC Adi 17.141">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.141|CC Adi 17.141, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Then He proceeded to Mādhāi's ghāṭa. In this way Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, the Supreme Lord, who was known as Viśvambhara, danced all over the banks of the Ganges. Then He proceeded to Bārakoṇā-ghāṭa, then Nāgariyā-ghāṭa, and, traveling through Gaṅgānagara, reached Simuliyā, a quarter at one end of the town. All these places surround Śrī Māyāpur. After reaching Simuliyā, the Lord proceeded toward the Kazi's house, and in this way He reached the door of Chand Kazi.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17142_19" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2079" link="CC Adi 17.142" link_text="CC Adi 17.142">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.142|CC Adi 17.142, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Naturally some of the people who were very much agitated began to retaliate the Kazi's actions by wrecking his house and flower garden. Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura has elaborately described this incident.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17143_20" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2080" link="CC Adi 17.143" link_text="CC Adi 17.143">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.143|CC Adi 17.143, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Thereafter, when Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu reached the Kazi's house, He sat down by the doorway and sent some respectable persons to call for the Kazi.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17144_21" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2081" link="CC Adi 17.144" link_text="CC Adi 17.144">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.144|CC Adi 17.144, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">When the Kazi came, his head bowed down, the Lord gave him proper respect and a seat.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17144_22" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2081" link="CC Adi 17.144" link_text="CC Adi 17.144">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.144|CC Adi 17.144, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Some of the men in Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu's civil disobedience movement were agitated because they could not control their minds. But the Lord was thoroughly peaceful, sober and unagitated. Therefore when the Kazi came down to see Him, the Lord offered him proper respect and a seat because he was a respectable government officer.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17146_23" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2083" link="CC Adi 17.146" link_text="CC Adi 17.146">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.146|CC Adi 17.146, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">The Kazi replied, “You have come to my house in a very angry mood. To pacify You, I did not come before You immediately but kept myself hidden.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17151_24" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2088" link="CC Adi 17.151" link_text="CC Adi 17.151">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.151|CC Adi 17.151, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">In this way the Kazi and the Lord talked with each other with various indications, but no outsider could understand the inner meaning of their conversation.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17152_25" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2089" link="CC Adi 17.152" link_text="CC Adi 17.152">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.152|CC Adi 17.152, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">The Lord said, "My dear uncle, I have come to your home just to ask you some questions."</p>
<p>"Yes," the Kazi replied, "You are welcome. Just tell me what is in Your mind."</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17154_26" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2091" link="CC Adi 17.154" link_text="CC Adi 17.154">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.154|CC Adi 17.154, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">According to Vedic civilization, there are seven mothers, of which the cow is one. Therefore Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu challenged the Muslim Kazi, "What kind of religious principle do you follow by killing your father and mother to eat them?" In any civilized human society, no one would dare kill his father and mother for the purpose of eating them. Therefore Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu challenged the system of Muslim religion as patricide and matricide. In the Christian religion also, a principal commandment is "Thou shalt not kill."</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17155_27" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2092" link="CC Adi 17.155" link_text="CC Adi 17.155">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.155|CC Adi 17.155, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">The Kazi replied, “As You have Your scriptures called the Vedas and Purāṇas, we have our scripture, known as the holy Koran.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17155_28" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2092" link="CC Adi 17.155" link_text="CC Adi 17.155">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.155|CC Adi 17.155, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Chand Kazi agreed to talk with Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu on the strength of the scriptures. According to the Vedic scripture, if one can support his position by quoting from the Vedas, his argument is perfect. Similarly, when the Muslims support their position with quotations from the Koran, their arguments are also authorized. When Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu raised the question of the Muslims' cow-killing and bull-killing, Chand Kazi came to the standard of understanding from his scriptures.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17158_29" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2095" link="CC Adi 17.158" link_text="CC Adi 17.158">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.158|CC Adi 17.158, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">As a learned scholar, the Kazi challenged Caitanya Mahāprabhu, "In Your Vedic scriptures there is an injunction for killing a cow. On the strength of this injunction, great sages performed sacrifices involving cow-killing."</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17159_30" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2096" link="CC Adi 17.159" link_text="CC Adi 17.159">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.159|CC Adi 17.159, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Refuting the Kazi's statement, the Lord immediately replied, “The Vedas clearly enjoin that cows should not be killed. Therefore every Hindu, whoever he may be, avoids indulging in cow-killing.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17159_31" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2096" link="CC Adi 17.159" link_text="CC Adi 17.159">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.159|CC Adi 17.159, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">There are no sanctions for maintaining regular slaughterhouses to satisfy the tongues of meat-eaters. As far as cow-killing is concerned, it is completely forbidden. Since the cow is considered a mother, how could the Vedas allow cow-killing? Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu pointed out that the Kazi's statement was faulty. In the Bhagavad-gītā (18.44) there is a clear injunction that cows should be protected: kṛṣi-gorakṣya-vāṇijyaṁ vaiśya-karma svabhāva-jam. "The duty of vaiśyas is to produce agricultural products, trade and give protection to cows." Therefore it is a false statement that the Vedic scriptures contain injunctions permitting cow-killing.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17168_32" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2105" link="CC Adi 17.168" link_text="CC Adi 17.168">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.168|CC Adi 17.168, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">After hearing these statements by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu, the Kazi, his arguments stunned, could not put forward any more words. Thus, after due consideration, the Kazi accepted defeat and spoke as follows.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17169_33" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2106" link="CC Adi 17.169" link_text="CC Adi 17.169">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.169|CC Adi 17.169, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Because the soul is within the body, the body changes through so many forms. There is a soul within the body of every living creature, whether animal, tree, bird or human being, and the soul is transmigrating from one type of body to another. When the scriptures of the yavanas—namely the Old Testament, New Testament and Koran—cannot properly answer inquisitive followers, naturally those advanced in scientific knowledge and philosophy lose faith in such scriptures. The Kazi admitted this while talking with Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. The Kazi was a very intelligent person. He had full knowledge of his position, as stated in the following verse.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17171_34" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2108" link="CC Adi 17.171" link_text="CC Adi 17.171">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.171|CC Adi 17.171, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">"The reasoning and arguments in the scriptures of the meat-eaters are not very sound," the Kazi concluded. Upon hearing this statement, Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu smiled and inquired from him as follows.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17175_35" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2112" link="CC Adi 17.175" link_text="CC Adi 17.175">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.175|CC Adi 17.175, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">The Kazi said, “Everyone calls You Gaurahari. Please let me address You by that name.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17178179_36" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2115" link="CC Adi 17.178-179" link_text="CC Adi 17.178-179">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.178-179|CC Adi 17.178-179, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">The Kazi said, “When I went to the Hindu's house, broke the drum and forbade the performance of congregational chanting, in my dreams that very night I saw a greatly fearful lion, roaring very loudly, His body like a human being's and His face like a lion's.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17187_37" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2123" link="CC Adi 17.187" link_text="CC Adi 17.187">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.187|CC Adi 17.187, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">After this description, the Kazi showed his chest. Having heard him and seen the marks, all the people there accepted the wonderful incident.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17188_38" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2124" link="CC Adi 17.188" link_text="CC Adi 17.188">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.188|CC Adi 17.188, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">The Kazi continued, “I did not speak to anyone about this incident, but on that very day one of my orderlies came to see me.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17213_39" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2148" link="CC Adi 17.213" link_text="CC Adi 17.213">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.213|CC Adi 17.213, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The word ṭhākura has two meanings. One meaning is "God" or "a godly person," and another meaning is kṣatriya. Here the pāṣaṇḍī brāhmaṇas address the Kazi as ṭhākura, considering him the ruler of the town. There are different names by which to address the members of different castes. The brāhmaṇas are addressed as mahārāja, the kṣatriyas as ṭhākura, the vaiśyas as śetha or mahājana, and the śūdras as caudhurī. This etiquette is still followed in northern India, where the kṣatriyas are addressed as Ṭhākura Sāhab. The pāsaṇḍīs went so far as to request the magistrate, or Kazi, to have Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu expelled from the town because of His introducing hari-nāma-saṅkīrtana. Fortunately our Hare Kṛṣṇa movement all over the world, especially in the civilized world of Europe and America, has become very popular. Generally no one complains against us to have us removed from a city.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17216_40" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2151" link="CC Adi 17.216" link_text="CC Adi 17.216">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.216|CC Adi 17.216, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">After hearing the Kazi speak so nicely, Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu touched him and smilingly spoke as follows.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17217_41" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2152" link="CC Adi 17.217" link_text="CC Adi 17.217">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.217|CC Adi 17.217, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Confirming the potency of the saṅkīrtana movement, these words from the very mouth of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu express how people can be purified simply by chanting the holy name of Lord Kṛṣṇa. The Kazi was a Muslim mleccha, or meat-eater, but because he several times uttered the holy name of Lord Kṛṣṇa, automatically the reactions of his sinful life were vanquished and he was fully purified of all material contamination.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17217_42" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2152" link="CC Adi 17.217" link_text="CC Adi 17.217">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.217|CC Adi 17.217, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">We do not know why the pāṣaṇḍīs of the present day protest that we are deteriorating the Hindu religion by spreading Kṛṣṇa consciousness all over the world and claiming all classes of men to the highest standard of Vaiṣṇavism. But these rascals disagree with us so vehemently that some of them do not allow European and American Vaiṣṇavas to enter the temples of Viṣṇu. Thinking religion to be meant for material benefit, these so-called Hindus have actually become vicious by worshiping the numerous forms of the demigods. In the next verse Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu confirms the Kazi's purification.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17219_43" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2154" link="CC Adi 17.219" link_text="CC Adi 17.219">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.219|CC Adi 17.219, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">After the Kazi heard this, tears flowed down from his eyes. He immediately touched the lotus feet of the Lord and spoke the following sweet words.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17222_44" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2157" link="CC Adi 17.222" link_text="CC Adi 17.222">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.222|CC Adi 17.222, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">The Kazi said, "To as many descendants as take birth in my dynasty in the future, I give this grave admonition: No one should check the saṅkīrtana movement."</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17222_45" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2157" link="CC Adi 17.222" link_text="CC Adi 17.222">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.222|CC Adi 17.222, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">As a result of this grave injunction by the Kazi, even at present the descendants of the Kazi's family do not oppose the saṅkīrtana movement under any circumstances. Even during the great Hindu-Muslim riots in neighboring places, the descendants of the Kazi honestly preserved the assurance given by their forefather.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17224_46" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2159" link="CC Adi 17.224" link_text="CC Adi 17.224">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.224|CC Adi 17.224, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu went back to perform kīrtana, and the Kazi, his mind jubilant, went with Him.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17225_47" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2160" link="CC Adi 17.225" link_text="CC Adi 17.225">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.225|CC Adi 17.225, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">The Lord asked the Kazi to go back home. Then the son of mother Śacī came back to His own home, dancing and dancing.</p>
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<div id="CCAdi17226_48" class="quote" parent="CC_Adi-lila" book="CC" index="2161" link="CC Adi 17.226" link_text="CC Adi 17.226">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.226|CC Adi 17.226, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">This is the incident concerning the Kazi and the Lord's mercy upon him. Anyone who hears this is also freed from all offenses.</p>
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<div id="CC_Madhya-lila" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" text="CC Madhya-lila"><h3>CC Madhya-lila</h3>
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<div id="CCMadhya6127_0" class="quote" parent="CC_Madhya-lila" book="CC" index="1097" link="CC Madhya 6.127" link_text="CC Madhya 6.127">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Madhya 6.127|CC Madhya 6.127, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Unfortunately, at the present moment there are many foolish sannyāsīs, both in India and elsewhere, who simply read and study Vedic literature without understanding the purports. When Caitanya Mahāprabhu was having His discussion with the Chand Kazi, the Muslim magistrate of Navadvīpa, He recited a verse from the Vedic literature to the effect that the order of sannyāsa is prohibited in this Age of Kali. Only those who are very serious and who follow the regulative principles and study Vedic literature should accept sannyāsa.</p>
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<div id="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" class="section" sec_index="3" parent="compilation" text="Other Books by Srila Prabhupada"><h2>Other Books by Srila Prabhupada</h2>
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<div id="Teachings_of_Lord_Caitanya" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" text="Teachings of Lord Caitanya"><h3>Teachings of Lord Caitanya</h3>
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<div id="TLCPrologue_0" class="quote" parent="Teachings_of_Lord_Caitanya" book="OB" index="4" link="TLC Prologue" link_text="Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Chapter Prologue">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:TLC Prologue|Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Chapter Prologue]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The bhaktas were highly pleased. The smārta brāhmaṇas became jealous of Nimāi Paṇḍita's success and complained to Chand Kazi against the character of Caitanya as un-Hindu. The Kazi came to Śrīvāsa Paṇḍita's house and broke a mṛdaṅga (khola drum) there and declared that unless Nimāi Paṇḍita ceased to make noise about his queer religion he would be obliged to enforce Mohammedanism on him and his followers. This was brought to Mahāprabhu's notice. He ordered the townspeople to appear in the evening, each with a torch in his hand. This groups, and on his arrival in the Kazi's house, he held a long conversation with the Kazi and in the end communicated into his heart his Vaiṣṇava influence by touching his body. The Kazi then wept and admitted that he had felt a keen spiritual influence which had cleared up his doubts and produced in him a religious sentiment which gave him the highest ecstasy. The Kazi then joined the saṅkīrtana party. The world was astonished at the spiritual power of the Great Lord, and hundreds and hundreds of heretics converted and joined the banner of Viśvambhara after this affair.</p>
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG21317LosAngelesNovember291968_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="67" link="Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968|Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The... When Caitanya Mahāprabhu met Chand Kazi... I think I have explained this story many times. Chand Kazi was Mohammedan. So you know the story that Caitanya Mahāprabhu started civil disobedience, disregarded the section, I mean to say, imposed by the magistrate Chand Kazi that "You cannot hold the saṅkīrtana. The people are disturbed." Just like you are being threatened by the police. So this is not new thing. This thing is going on from the very beginning, even Caitanya Mahāprabhu's time. But Caitanya Mahāprabhu disregarded the notice. "Don't care for this Kazi. Go on." And when people... He was very popular, but we are not popular. Caitanya Mahāprabhu (laughs) was Kṛṣṇa. He had attraction. He was, although a boy of twenty years old, He had many followers. He ordered, "Oh, Kazi has ordered to stop. Now I order that hundreds of thousands of people shall assemble this night, and we shall go to the Kazi's house."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG21317LosAngelesNovember291968_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="67" link="Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968|Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is civil disobedience. So people agreed, and there were hundreds of thousands of mṛdaṅgas and hundreds of thousands of people, and they chanted and crossed the whole street, don't care for any police action. And the Kazi saw, "Oh, it is a mass movement." He was afraid. You see? When any movement is taken by the people, then the government becomes afraid. Just like the marijuana movement? Now there is no more legal action. Government cannot because all people are taking to marijuana. You see? What is that? Mariana, marijuana. Marijuana. So you make this marijuana, taken by all people, then police will be afraid. You see? They'll not dare to stop you.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG21317LosAngelesNovember291968_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="67" link="Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968|Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So when there was talk with Kazi... Chand Kazi was learned man. So first of all Caitanya Mahāprabhu challenged, "My dear uncle..." He established the relation to pacify Caitanya. "My Nimāi, Nimāi..." He called just like boy. He was boy. "Nimāi, oh, Your grandfather Nīlāmbara Cakravartī, I call him cācā." Cācā means uncle. The Muslims they call... In India these Britishers created feelings between Hindus and Muslims, but otherwise the Hindus and Muslims are living since eight centuries.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG21317LosAngelesNovember291968_3" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="67" link="Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968|Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">When they saw that Gandhi is improving the Hindu-Muslim situation, they created a, what is called, a split. Anyway, that is political. So this Chand Kazi informed Caitanya Mahāprabhu, "Nimāi, I call Your grandfather, Your mother's father, as my cācā, as my uncle. So in that way Your mother is my sister according to our village relationship, and You are my nephew. So how is that a nephew is so much angry upon his uncle? Is it not good?" So Caitanya Mahāprabhu could understand that he has come down. He has now become uncle.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG21317LosAngelesNovember291968_4" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="67" link="Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968|Lecture on BG 2.13-17 -- Los Angeles, November 29, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So then they sat down and talked. The first challenge was Caitanya Mahāprabhu's, that "My dear uncle, what is your this religion that you're eating father and mother?" That was His first challenge. And the Kazi said, "What is that? What do You mean by that?" "You are eating a bull and cow. Cow is your mother. You are drinking milk; therefore she is your mother. And the bull is helping you, producing your food, maintaining. As the father maintains you and mother gives you milk. And do you think it is good to kill them?" So Kazi, he was also learned, "Oh, Your Vedic scripture also, there is cow sacrifice." Caitanya Mahāprabhu immediately said, "No, that is not killing.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG42024NewYorkAugust91966_5" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="184" link="Lecture on BG 4.20-24 -- New York, August 9, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.20-24 -- New York, August 9, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.20-24 -- New York, August 9, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.20-24 -- New York, August 9, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Now, Caitanya Mahāprabhu first of all inquired that the Muhammadan magistrate... They established their relation as the uncle and nephew. Caitanya Mahāprabhu became the nephew, and the Kazi, the magistrate, he became the uncle. So Caitanya Mahāprabhu addressed the uncle, "My dear uncle, why you are killing your father and mother?" So the uncle replied, "What is that? I am killing our father and mother?" "Yes. Because the cow is your mother. She gives milk.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG71BombayJanuary131973_6" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="236" link="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Bombay, January 13, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Bombay, January 13, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Bombay, January 13, 1973|Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Bombay, January 13, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Haridāsa Ṭhākura. Haridāsa Ṭhākura became a sādhu, a devotee of Kṛṣṇa. He came from Muhammadan community. In those days, the Muhammadan Kazi, magistrate, called him, that "You are Muhammadan and why you are chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, the Hindu's God's name?" So he very mildly replied: "My dear sir, there are many Hindus, they have also become Muhammadans. So suppose I have become a Hindu. So what is the fault?" Oh, he become very angry, and he was ordered to be caned in seven markets. You see. So there are so many dangers.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB1217VrndavanaOctober281972_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="76" link="Lecture on SB 1.2.17 -- Vrndavana, October 28, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.2.17 -- Vrndavana, October 28, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.2.17 -- Vrndavana, October 28, 1972|Lecture on SB 1.2.17 -- Vrndavana, October 28, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In Melbourne, they're, they're now arresting. I do not know what is the position now. But they are prepared. These boys and girls, so nice that they're arrested sometimes. Just like Kazi was torturing Caitanya Mahāprabhu's party. Of course, now, civilized world, there is no such torturing, but our men are, very often they are arrested and put into jail also. But still, they go. They go every day. Now in London, the police has become disgusted. They don't, do not arrest anymore. Yes. So I say that if you are arrested, why you should be sorry? You go in the jail and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. That's all. So that others will get the opportunity to hear about Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1514NewVrindabanJune181969_1" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="140" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">"You are the leader of the śāstras. You are writing śāstras. People will follow you." Just like in Vedic, Vedas, there is recommendation of sacri..., in the sacrifice, animal-killing, but that animal-killing is not killing. This... There was a discussion between Lord Caitanya and Chand Kazi, the Muhammadan magistrate. That story perhaps you know, that He started civil disobedience movement. And the brāhmaṇas of Navadvīpa, they complained to the Muhammadan ma... At that time, Bengal was being governed by Pathans, Muhammadans, and so there was Muhammadan magistrate called Kazi Saheb.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1514NewVrindabanJune181969_2" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="140" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So the brāhmaṇas, they lodged complaint to the Kazi Saheb that "This boy, Nimāi Paṇḍita, He has started one movement, Hare Kṛṣṇa, and people are being enthused, excited to chant this Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, and He is making propaganda that "Simply by chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, you'll get all perfection." So the brāhmaṇas thought that "If this boy makes propaganda and popularize this Hare Kṛṣṇa movement, then, oh, what about ourself?" They were priestly class. "Then how we will live?" So they lodged complaint to the Chand Kazi that "He's doing something against our Vedic rituals. It is not Hindu religion. And..." Of course, he was Muhammadan magistrate, but after all, he was meant for giving justice to the people. So when big brāhmaṇas complained, he took action and he sent some constables to warn the followers of Lord Caitanya that "You are disturbing. You are disturbing, this Hare Kṛṣṇa chanting. You cannot do this. There is complaint."</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1514NewVrindabanJune181969_3" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="140" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So Caitanya Mahāprabhu was informed that "The Chand Kazi has warned us not to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. What shall we do?" Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, "Don't care. Go on chanting. Go on chanting." So then, when the magistrate saw that they have not stopped, then he sent some constables and government police force, who broke their mṛdaṅgas and dispersed the crowd. So this information was given to Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and He said, "All right, then we shall, I mean to say, issue this civil disobedience." So He called for many thousands of people. He was very popular. This incidence shows that even He was at that time sixteen-years-old boy, He was so learned, Nimāi Paṇḍita, that He defeated a great scholar, and at the same time, He was very popular because by His simple calling, many hundred thousands of people gathered with mṛdaṅgas, and they began kīrtana in the street and went to the house of that Kazi.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1514NewVrindabanJune181969_4" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="140" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So at that time Kazi thought that "This is a mass movement. So my order will not be... There will be some disturbance." So he came to his senses. Then he wanted to make some compromise with Caitanya Mahāprabhu. And first of all there was some discussion, because he was also very learned scholar, Chand Kazi, and Caitanya Mahāprabhu was also very learned scholar. So first of all he compromised, Chand Kazi, "Nimāi, You are a boy, and in our village relationship You are just my nephew because Your grandfather, Your mother's father, I call him 'Cācā.' " Cācā means uncle. "So, in that sense, Your mother is my sister.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1514NewVrindabanJune181969_5" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="140" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So He said, "Yes, My dear uncle, I have come My uncle's house to be received very nicely, but you went upstairs. Why? I am very glad that you have come down." In this way, the things were... Then He first of all asked Chand Kazi, "Yes, My dear uncle..." He was maternal uncle, māmu... Māmu or māmā. Māmā means maternal uncle. "My dear māmā, Uncle, what is your religion, that you eat your father and mother?" That was His challenge, first. "What sort of religion you have got?" He said, "What You say? We eat our father...?" "Yes, because you eat cow. So cow gives you milk. She's your mother. You drink milk and kill your mother. And the bull, she (he) helps you in agricultural..., producing grains just like father gives you grains to eat. So you are killing your father and mother. How is that?"</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1514NewVrindabanJune181969_6" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="140" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So Chand Kazi was also very learned scholar. He said, "Well, this cow-killing is also recommended in Your Vedas, because there is cow sacrifice." So Caitanya Mahāprabhu replied... Now, we should know it that the animal sacrifice, according to the Vedic scripture, that is not killing. That is explained by Caitanya Mahāprabhu. He said that "In the previous time, this cow sacrifice was actually being done. That's all right. But that was not for killing.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1841LosAngelesMay31973_7" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="242" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.41 -- Los Angeles, May 3, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.41 -- Los Angeles, May 3, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.41 -- Los Angeles, May 3, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.8.41 -- Los Angeles, May 3, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So much honor... Caitanya Mahāprabhu, when He was gṛhastha, He was so much honored that by His only direction of His finger, lakhs of people would immediately join Him as He started the civil disobedience movement against Kazi. So His position was very respectable in Nadia. Young man, beautiful, His body. Nobody can compare with His beautiful body. Young wife, faithful wife, beautiful wife; mother, affectionate;, position; everything. But He gave up everything. Vairāgya. This is called vairāgya, renouncement. If somebody has nothing to possess, if he says, "I have renounced everything," what is the meaning of renouncement? If you have something then you renounce, then there is meaning.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11013MayapuraJune261973_8" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="279" link="Lecture on SB 1.10.13 -- Mayapura, June 26, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.10.13 -- Mayapura, June 26, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.10.13 -- Mayapura, June 26, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.10.13 -- Mayapura, June 26, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So because these Pāṇḍavas and their families were all sat by association of Kṛṣṇa, therefore they were all perplexed within their mind, that "Kṛṣṇa is going back to His home. How we shall live? How we can give up Kṛṣṇa?" Those who are actually devotee of Kṛṣṇa, they cannot give up Kṛṣṇa at any risk. Just like Prahlāda Mahārāja, and the Haridāsa Ṭhākura in this Navadvīpa area. He was a Muhammadan. He took to kṛṣṇa-nāma. The kazi called him, "You are Muhammadan. Why you are taking this kṛṣṇa-nāma?" "What is the fault, sir? There are many Hindus.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1163LosAngelesDecember311973_9" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="320" link="Lecture on SB 1.16.3 -- Los Angeles, December 31, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.16.3 -- Los Angeles, December 31, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.16.3 -- Los Angeles, December 31, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.16.3 -- Los Angeles, December 31, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That was discussed between Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu and Chand Kazi, the Muhammadan magistrate of Nadia. He, Śrī Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu, challenged the Kazi, Muhammadan, that "What is your religion, that you eat your father and mother?" This was the challenge by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. What is that, father, mother? Now, mother, your cow is your mother. You drink milk of cow. And the bull is your father. Because without bull, without the cow and bull being united, there is no milk. So how is that you are eating your father and mother? It is a great challenge.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1163LosAngelesDecember311973_10" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="320" link="Lecture on SB 1.16.3 -- Los Angeles, December 31, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.16.3 -- Los Angeles, December 31, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.16.3 -- Los Angeles, December 31, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.16.3 -- Los Angeles, December 31, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This Chand Kazi, Muslim magistrate, he also challenged Caitanya Mahāprabhu. When Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, "What is your this religion? You are eating your father and mother?" Directly. Not that He was talking with a magistrate, He should be a little respectful. No. In spiritual matter, everything spoken frankly, no compromise.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11621LosAngelesJuly111974_11" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="337" link="Lecture on SB 1.16.21 -- Los Angeles, July 11, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.16.21 -- Los Angeles, July 11, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.16.21 -- Los Angeles, July 11, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.16.21 -- Los Angeles, July 11, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is a first-class Vaiṣṇava, para-duḥkha-duḥkhī. Just like Caitanya Mahāprabhu. By His practical example... He was a very learned scholar, many students, very respectable. He was so respectable in Navadvīpa that in one night He collected a hundred thousand of people to challenge against the Kazi's judgment, civil disobedience. Kazi acted against saṅkīrtana, so Caitanya Mahāprabhu challenged, "Now, tonight, we shall perform saṅkīrtana with 100,000 of people." And 100,000 of people gathered together and chanting and went to the house of Kazi.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11621LosAngelesJuly111974_12" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="337" link="Lecture on SB 1.16.21 -- Los Angeles, July 11, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.16.21 -- Los Angeles, July 11, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.16.21 -- Los Angeles, July 11, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.16.21 -- Los Angeles, July 11, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So the example is... He was at that time hardly twenty years old, but how much influence He had that simply by His order 100,000 people collected and chanted Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra and challenged the Kazi, that "You are forbidding. We shall continue. Do whatever you like." So this is His popularity. And Lakṣmī-devī, the, directly the goddess of fortune, wife, most beautiful young wife. And seventy-years-old mother. So He has got obligation.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB32523BombayNovember231974_13" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="445" link="Lecture on SB 3.25.23 -- Bombay, November 23, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.25.23 -- Bombay, November 23, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.23 -- Bombay, November 23, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.25.23 -- Bombay, November 23, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So he became a very good devotee and always chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. That was his fault. So the Muslim Kazi called him, that "You are Muhammadan. You born in a such great family, Muhammadan family, and you are chanting Hindu's Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra? What is this?" So he mildly replied, "My dear sir, there are many Hindus, they also have become Muhammadan. So suppose I have become Hindu. So what is the wrong? What is the wrong there?" So Kazi became very angry, that "You are talking before me? All right." So he was punished to be caned in twenty-two bazaar, in front of twenty-two bazaar. That means he was to be killed by caning.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB5532VrndavanaNovember191976_14" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="563" link="Lecture on SB 5.5.32 -- Vrndavana, November 19, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 5.5.32 -- Vrndavana, November 19, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 5.5.32 -- Vrndavana, November 19, 1976|Lecture on SB 5.5.32 -- Vrndavana, November 19, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Haridāsa Ṭhākura, he was beaten in twenty-one bazaars regular with cane because he was Muhammadan, and in those days the Muhammadan kingdom was going on, Pathan ruling. So the Kazi, he saw that one Muhammadan, he has become a devotee of Kṛṣṇa. So he called him so, that "With great fortune you became a Muhammadan, and now you are taking to Hinduism? You are so unfortunate?" So he could understand that "Here is a rascal. What I shall talk with him and argue with him?" He simply said, "Sir, it is... What is the fault there? Just like so many Hindus, they sometimes become Muhammadan, and suppose if I have become a Hindu, what is the wrong there?" So the Kazi took it very seriously: "Oh, you are answering? All right. Order him that you beat this man in twenty-one..., cane, caning."</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB5532VrndavanaNovember191976_15" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="563" link="Lecture on SB 5.5.32 -- Vrndavana, November 19, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 5.5.32 -- Vrndavana, November 19, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 5.5.32 -- Vrndavana, November 19, 1976|Lecture on SB 5.5.32 -- Vrndavana, November 19, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Then the, I mean to say, men who were given in charge to beat him, they became afraid, that "If this man is not dead, then the Kazi will take us very seriously that we have not beaten him seriously." So they began to flatter him, "Sir, unless you die, we'll be dead. Our life is in great danger." So Haridāsa Ṭhākura made a show of death, and he was brought before the Kazi that "Here, the body is dead."</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB616HonoluluJune81975_16" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="585" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.6 -- Honolulu, June 8, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.6 -- Honolulu, June 8, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.6 -- Honolulu, June 8, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.1.6 -- Honolulu, June 8, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So He was very influential. When He was twenty years old the Kazi broke the mṛdaṅga in saṅkīrtana. Kazi means the Mussulman magistrate. And He started the civil disobedience movement and He called for one lakh of men, 100,000 men, to join the saṅkīrtana and go to the Kazi's house. Immediately it was done. Just see how much influential He was. So, so far material condition, He had His very affectionate mother. He was a only son of His mother. All brothers and sister died. And His wife was very Lakṣmī-priya... Lakṣmī-priya died first, then He married, second time, Viṣṇu-priya. So very happy life. But He left. Tyaktvā... surepsita-rājya-lakṣmīm ([[Vanisource:SB 11.5.34|SB 11.5.34]]).</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB628VrndavanaSeptember111975_17" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="709" link="Lecture on SB 6.2.8 -- Vrndavana, September 11, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.2.8 -- Vrndavana, September 11, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.2.8 -- Vrndavana, September 11, 1975|Lecture on SB 6.2.8 -- Vrndavana, September 11, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So the constables, they were requested to "Arrest these chanters." The brāhmaṇas, the smārta brāhmaṇas, because Caitanya Mahāprabhu preached that "Simply by chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra you will be liberated," so the smārta brāhmaṇas, they thought it very dangerous because their profession will be lost. So they protested to the magistrate, Muhammadan magistrate, Chand Kazi, that "This Caitanya, the Nimāi Paṇḍit, He has inaugurated one movement that 'Simply by chanting one will become liberated.' This is not according to our Hindu scripture. So you may be Muhammadan, but you are our ruler. You should give us some protection. Otherwise this Nimāi Paṇḍit will ruin our Hindu religion." This was the complaint.</p>
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<div id="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Lectures" text="Nectar of Devotion Lectures"><h3>Nectar of Devotion Lectures</h3>
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionVrndavanaNovember141972_0" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="43" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 14, 1972" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 14, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 14, 1972|The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 14, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Even when Caitanya Mahāprabhu was preaching this Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra... He was chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra very loudly. Some brāhmaṇas from Navadvīpa, they lodged complaint to the magistrate, Kazi, that "This Nimāi Paṇḍita has discovered a new type of religion, chanting loudly Hare Kṛṣṇa. This is the period of, sleeping period of Nārāyaṇa, and He's chanting so loudly. So Nārāyaṇa will be disturbed and there will be so much catastrophe. So kindly stop this chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa loudly." And Kazi, he took steps. He first of all warned the disciples of Caitanya Mahāprabhu to stop chanting. But when Caitanya Mahāprabhu disregarded the order, then the, some constables came and broke the mṛdaṅgas. Then Caitanya Mahāprabhu started the civil disobedience movement. About one lakh of people, chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, reached the house of Kazi, and there was some compromise.</p>
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<div id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Lectures" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures"><h3>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonCCAdilila74MayapurMarch41974_0" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="23" link="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 7.4 -- Mayapur, March 4, 1974" link_text="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 7.4 -- Mayapur, March 4, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Adi-lila 7.4 -- Mayapur, March 4, 1974|Lecture on CC Adi-lila 7.4 -- Mayapur, March 4, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Caitanya Mahāprabhu personally had many enemies. You know that in this spot there was persecution, religious persecution, by the then magistrate, Chand Kazi. His samādhi is still there. So, and we are also experiencing. Our only fault is that we are preaching the saṅkīrtana movement, and there are so many enemies. You see? So that is possible. Even the father become enemy. Prahlāda Mahārāja, a five-years-old boy, and because he was chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, his father became enemy. So you'll have enemies.</p>
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<div id="Festival_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Lectures" text="Festival Lectures"><h3>Festival Lectures</h3>
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<div id="GovardhanaPujaLectureNewYorkNovember41966_0" class="quote" parent="Festival_Lectures" book="Lec" index="33" link="Govardhana Puja Lecture -- New York, November 4, 1966" link_text="Govardhana Puja Lecture -- New York, November 4, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Govardhana Puja Lecture -- New York, November 4, 1966|Govardhana Puja Lecture -- New York, November 4, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Such sort of rituals, religious ceremony, is not recommended by Kṛṣṇa. You must actually the effect. Just like in Purāṇas there was a talk between Lord Caitanya and Kazi, Chand Kazi. Chand Kazi was a Muhammadan magistrate, and Lord Caitanya, when He started this saṅkīrtana movement, there was many complaints. Just like we are receiving daily reports that our saṅkīrtana movement is disturbing some tenants here.</p>
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<div id="GovardhanaPujaLectureNewYorkNovember41966_1" class="quote" parent="Festival_Lectures" book="Lec" index="33" link="Govardhana Puja Lecture -- New York, November 4, 1966" link_text="Govardhana Puja Lecture -- New York, November 4, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Govardhana Puja Lecture -- New York, November 4, 1966|Govardhana Puja Lecture -- New York, November 4, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Now, there was some compromising talk with the magistrate, and in that talk the Caitanya Mahāprabhu first questioned. Because he was Mohammedan, Caitanya Mahāprabhu said that "In your religion there is killing of father and mother. What sort of religion this is?" The Kazi replied, "How do you say that we are killing our father and...?" "Yes. You are killing your mother. Cow gives you milk, delivers milk. You drink the milk, and you kill the cow. Therefore you are killing your mother." So the Kazi replied that "In your Vedic literature also, I have seen. There is cow sacrifice." So Caitanya Mahāprabhu replied, "That is not cow sacrifice.</p>
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<div id="SixGosvamisLectureSriSriSadgovamyastakaLosAngelesNovember181968_2" class="quote" parent="Festival_Lectures" book="Lec" index="52" link="Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968" link_text="Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968|Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">When Caitanya Mahāprabhu was introducing this kīrtana system, so many brāhmaṇas of Navadvīpa, they complained to the Muhammadan magistrate—at that time the government was Muhammadan government, Pathan—to the Kazi that "This boy..." Caitanya Mahāprabhu was that time seventeen years, eighteen-years-old boy, but He was very popular by introducing this saṅkīrtana, Hare Kṛṣṇa chanting and dancing.</p>
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<div id="SixGosvamisLectureSriSriSadgovamyastakaLosAngelesNovember181968_3" class="quote" parent="Festival_Lectures" book="Lec" index="52" link="Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968" link_text="Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968|Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">They prescribed so many ritualistic performances, and Caitanya Mahāprabhu was saying simply by chanting one can achieve the highest perfection. So they were disturbed, and they lodged complaint to the then magistrate, Kazi. Maulana Chand Kazi, his name was Maulana Chand Kazi. You know, when a Muhammadan is learned and religious he gets the title Maulana. So that magistrate, Chand Kazi, was very learned scholar, not only in Muhammadan scriptures, but he was a great scholar Hindu scripture also. Just like in British period in India, there were many responsible English officers, just like high-court judge, civil service.</p>
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<div id="SixGosvamisLectureSriSriSadgovamyastakaLosAngelesNovember181968_4" class="quote" parent="Festival_Lectures" book="Lec" index="52" link="Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968" link_text="Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968|Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So this Chand Kazi was a great scholar, and the brāhmaṇas lodged complaint that "This boy Nimāi Paṇḍita..." Caitanya Mahāprabhu was known at that time "Nimāi Paṇḍita." His mother's given name was Nimāi. And because He was also very great scholar, in sixteen years old he defeated many scholars. One scholar came from Kashmir. He was, his name was Keśava Kāśmirī, he defeated all scholars of India. But when he came to Navadvīpa he was defeated by Caitanya Mahāprabhu. So Caitanya Mahāprabhu was a great scholar.</p>
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<div id="SixGosvamisLectureSriSriSadgovamyastakaLosAngelesNovember181968_5" class="quote" parent="Festival_Lectures" book="Lec" index="52" link="Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968" link_text="Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968|Six Gosvamis Lecture, Sri Sri Sad-govamy-astaka -- Los Angeles, November 18, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So Nimāi Paṇḍita, Nimāi Paṇḍita. Yes. So complaint was lodged against Him, and He disobeyed the order of the Kazi, civil disobedience, and there was a great incident. Then the Kazi became His admirer, follower. That is a long story.</p>
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<div id="Arrival_Addresses_and_Talks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Lectures" text="Arrival Addresses and Talks"><h3>Arrival Addresses and Talks</h3>
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<div id="ArrivalLectureDallasMarch31975_0" class="quote" parent="Arrival_Addresses_and_Talks" book="Lec" index="20" link="Arrival Lecture -- Dallas, March 3, 1975" link_text="Arrival Lecture -- Dallas, March 3, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Arrival Lecture -- Dallas, March 3, 1975|Arrival Lecture -- Dallas, March 3, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">He had very good position in the society, Nimāi Paṇḍita. Yesterday you showed one play called Chand Kazi. So He was so influential that simply by His calling, hundreds and thousands of men immediately joined to go to the Chand Kazi's house to perform kīrtana. So just imagine what was His social position, so popular, leader. He had very good position. As a learned scholar, He was known as Nimāi Paṇḍita. Beautiful, very beautiful body, Gaurasundara. Very beautiful wife. Very honored brāhmaṇa, Jagannātha Miśra's son, grandson of Nīlāmbara Cakravartī, very social, aristocratic position. But still, He gave up everything.</p>
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<div id="Initiation_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Lectures" text="Initiation Lectures"><h3>Initiation Lectures</h3>
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<div id="InitiationofMrganetriDasiLosAngelesJune221970_0" class="quote" parent="Initiation_Lectures" book="Lec" index="24" link="Initiation of Mrga-netri Dasi -- Los Angeles, June 22, 1970" link_text="Initiation of Mrga-netri Dasi -- Los Angeles, June 22, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Initiation of Mrga-netri Dasi -- Los Angeles, June 22, 1970|Initiation of Mrga-netri Dasi -- Los Angeles, June 22, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">They would sacrifice an animal and again it will be given new life, rejuvenation. And Caitanya Mahāprabhu said to Chand Kazi that "Because in this age the brāhmaṇas are not so powerful, therefore sacrifice is prohibited. Only this sacrifice: harer nāma harer nāma harer nāma eva kevalam ([[Vanisource:CC Adi 17.21|CC Adi 17.21]]), this is..." (break) (japa) That's all right. Don't put any more. Yes. Put little ghee. Little ghee. That's all right.</p>
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<div id="GurudasaSannyasaInitiationSanFranciscoJuly211975_1" class="quote" parent="Initiation_Lectures" book="Lec" index="60" link="Gurudasa Sannyasa Initiation -- San Francisco, July 21, 1975" link_text="Gurudasa Sannyasa Initiation -- San Francisco, July 21, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Gurudasa Sannyasa Initiation -- San Francisco, July 21, 1975|Gurudasa Sannyasa Initiation -- San Francisco, July 21, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So this was... And influence? When He was twenty years old, He could, by His command, gather 100,000 people to protest against Kazi, He was so popular. So popularity, born in high family, having good wife and good mother, everything complete—still, He took sannyāsa. Therefore it is said, pūrvatamair mahadbhiḥ. Why? Now, just to show mercy to the fallen souls. Māyā-mṛgaṁ dayitayā ([[Vanisource:SB 11.5.34|SB 11.5.34]]). Just to show mercy to the fallen souls.</p>
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<div id="SannyasaInitiationMayapurMarch161976_2" class="quote" parent="Initiation_Lectures" book="Lec" index="63" link="Sannyasa Initiation -- Mayapur, March 16, 1976" link_text="Sannyasa Initiation -- Mayapur, March 16, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Sannyasa Initiation -- Mayapur, March 16, 1976|Sannyasa Initiation -- Mayapur, March 16, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like Caitanya Mahāprabhu did personally. He was twenty-four years old. He had beautiful wife, young wife, sixteen years old, at home, very, very affectionate mother, and His position was very great. Not as a brāhmaṇa, but still, as young man He could collect 100,000's of men by His order only, to make civil disobedience movement upon the Kazi, in this land. So the civil disobedience movement was started by Caitanya Mahāprabhu for a good cause. So there are so many things. I especially appeal to the native of this land to take part in this movement of Caitanya Mahāprabhu for the benefit of the world. And we are trying to construct a very attractive temple here.</p>
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<div id="General_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Lectures" text="General Lectures"><h3>General Lectures</h3>
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<div id="PandalLectureNovember141971Delhi_0" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="97" link="Pandal Lecture -- November 14, 1971, Delhi" link_text="Pandal Lecture -- November 14, 1971, Delhi">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Pandal Lecture -- November 14, 1971, Delhi|Pandal Lecture -- November 14, 1971, Delhi]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Lord Jesus Christ, he was crucified. The only fault was that he was preaching God consciousness. Ṭhākura Haridāsa, he was Muhammadan, but he took to this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement and the Kazi... At that time, there was Muhammadan government. The Kazi called him, "Oh, you are so fortunate, you have taken your birth in Muhammadan family and you are chanting Hindu God's name?" So he replied, "Sir, what is the fault there? Some of the Hindus also take to Muhammadan religion.</p>
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<div id="SundayFeastLectureAtlantaMarch21975_1" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="154" link="Sunday Feast Lecture -- Atlanta, March 2, 1975" link_text="Sunday Feast Lecture -- Atlanta, March 2, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Sunday Feast Lecture -- Atlanta, March 2, 1975|Sunday Feast Lecture -- Atlanta, March 2, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So why this law, that for the benefit of the human being, the cow should be slaughtered? And he is giving milk; he is working for you. What is this philosophy? In Christian religion it is clearly stated, "Thou shalt not kill." And most of the slaughterhouses are in the Christian countries. Why? This is all misunderstanding of spiritual life. Therefore... Just like the discussion went on with the Kazi and Caitanya Mahāprabhu. There was no philosophy. He first asked him that "Cow is your mother. Bull is your father. Why you are killing father and mother? What is your religion? Is that very good philosophy, that you shall kill your father and mother and eat them?" This was the first question.</p>
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<div id="Purports_to_Songs" class="sub_section" sec_index="14" parent="Lectures" text="Purports to Songs"><h3>Purports to Songs</h3>
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<div id="PurporttoParamaKorunaAtlantaFebruary281975_0" class="quote" parent="Purports_to_Songs" book="Lec" index="29" link="Purport to Parama Koruna -- Atlanta, February 28, 1975" link_text="Purport to Parama Koruna -- Atlanta, February 28, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Purport to Parama Koruna -- Atlanta, February 28, 1975|Purport to Parama Koruna -- Atlanta, February 28, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The civil disobedience movement, perhaps you know that it was inaugurated by Gandhi, Mahatma Gandhi, in India against the British government. But long, long before, five hundred years before, Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He started this civil disobedience movement against the order of Kazi. So He was so popular. My point is that not only He was a very learned scholar... He was young man, twenty, twenty-two years, but He was so popular that He could call 100,000 people at once to start this civil disobedience.</p>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1967_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1967 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1967 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="DiscourseonLordCaitanyaPlayBetweenSrilaPrabhupadaandHayagrivaApril561967SanFrancisco_0" class="quote" parent="1967_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="1" link="Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco" link_text="Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco|Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Several thousand. And they were loudly chanting and meeting Lord... So when the chanting was going on the Chand Kazi appeared and there was discussion between... Chand Kazi was also very great scholar, and Lord Caitanya was also scholar. So Chand Kazi, just to pacify them, he addressed Caitanya, "My dear boy, You happen to be my nephew. You are my sister's son. Why You are so angry upon Your maternal uncle?" Caitanya Mahāprabhu got the clue that he was prepared to make compromise. So He also mildly replied, "Yes, you are My uncle, I know. So because you are My uncle, therefore I have come to your house. How is that when the nephew comes that you do not receive Him? In an angry mood you go upstairs?" So in this way, the situation was pacified.</p>
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<div id="DiscourseonLordCaitanyaPlayBetweenSrilaPrabhupadaandHayagrivaApril561967SanFrancisco_1" class="quote" parent="1967_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="1" link="Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco" link_text="Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco|Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Chand Kazi.</p>
<p>Hayagrīva: Muhammadan.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Muhammadan. Chand Kazi was a... Maulana Chand Kazi. His name is Maulana Chand Kazi. He was a great scholar in the Koran scripture. So Caitanya Mahāprabhu first of all asked the Chand Kazi, "My dear uncle, what is your religion that you are eating your mother and father?" (laughs) So he could understand that He was attacking the cow killing process. So he said, "Well, You are just trying to criticize our cow killing, but in Your Vedic literature also I have seen that cow killing is allowed in sacrifice." Then Lord Caitanya said, "Yes. That is not killing.</p>
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<div id="DiscourseonLordCaitanyaPlayBetweenSrilaPrabhupadaandHayagrivaApril561967SanFrancisco_2" class="quote" parent="1967_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="1" link="Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco" link_text="Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco|Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Oblations. Yes. This, and to beget child by the husband's younger brother. Formerly, the society allowed that if a woman is young, she has no child, but husband died, so if the husband has younger brother, through the younger brother she could have a child. This system was current. But Caitanya Mahāprabhu says that these five things are forbidden in this age. So Chand Kazi also replied that "Cow killing is also not generally recommended in the Koran. Actually, beef-eating or flesh-eating is not in the higher stage. But those who are inclined to take flesh, for them it is recommended that instead of killing many small animals, one big animal should be killed.</p>
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<div id="DiscourseonLordCaitanyaPlayBetweenSrilaPrabhupadaandHayagrivaApril561967SanFrancisco_3" class="quote" parent="1967_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="1" link="Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco" link_text="Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco|Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So actually in Mecca, Medina, they kill camel. That is also in the mosque." So the substance of his speech was that flesh-eating ultimately is not recommended. "But those who have no other means, they eat flesh and they recommend that one big animal should be killed. So India, the cow is big animal, therefore we kill. But that is not recommended for advanced spiritual students." In this way... So they were friends, and he understood, Chand Kazi understood that it is very nice movement, that "You are preaching love of Godhead. So I did not understand. So my dear boy, henceforward there will be no hindrances in Your movement and I promise that not only myself but all my descendants will never object Your movement, this saṅkīrtana movement."</p>
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<div id="DiscourseonLordCaitanyaPlayBetweenSrilaPrabhupadaandHayagrivaApril561967SanFrancisco_4" class="quote" parent="1967_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="1" link="Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco" link_text="Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco|Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Chanting, and it was mitigated, and he allowed. First of all, there was objection, then there was civil disobedience, then when they compromised, the Chand Kazi allowed the movement. This is the whole idea.</p>
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<div id="DiscourseonLordCaitanyaPlayBetweenSrilaPrabhupadaandHayagrivaApril561967SanFrancisco_5" class="quote" parent="1967_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="1" link="Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco" link_text="Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco|Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hayagrīva: This is at age...? This is considerably later then. This is about ten years later.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. Renunciation... Now this Chand Kazi, he was... This movement when He was about 20 years old. Do you follow?</p>
<p>Hayagrīva: The saṅkīrtana was when He was around 20. The Kazi.</p>
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<div id="1968_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1968 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1968 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="QuestionsandAnswersMontrealAugust261968_0" class="quote" parent="1968_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="15" link="Questions and Answers -- Montreal, August 26, 1968" link_text="Questions and Answers -- Montreal, August 26, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Questions and Answers -- Montreal, August 26, 1968|Questions and Answers -- Montreal, August 26, 1968]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So Caitanya Mahāprabhu had all these facilities. He was learned, very honored young man in His country; He had many followings. In one incidence we can understand how beloved leader He was. The Kazi challenged His saṅkīrtana movement and first times warned Him not to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, and when He did not care for it, then he ordered that, er, that mṛdaṅga should be broken. So the constables came and broke the mṛdaṅgas. This information was given to Lord Caitanya, and He ordered civil disobedience. He was the first man in the history of India who started this civil disobedience movement. It is not Gandhi who is the originator of civil disobedience; it was Caitanya Mahāprabhu. He said that "Defy the order of the Kazi." Kazi means magistrate. So "This evening we shall go at the Kazi's house in hundreds of thousands, with mṛdaṅga and kīrtana." So simply by His order many hundreds of thousands young men—not young men; young, old, all kind of men-gathered, and... The point is just how popular leader He was.</p>
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<div id="1969_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1969 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1969 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="LordCaitanyaPlayToldtoTamalaKrsnaAugust41969LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1969_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="18" link="Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles" link_text="Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles|Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Maybe... About Lord Caitanya's civil disobedience. That is with the Kazi? His civil disobedience?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That is the Kazi.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I read the introduction. There is a lot of material on it. Maybe some other things that we can...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: You can make scene that people, His disciples, are performing kīrtana and one scene you can make Kazi, Muslim magistrate, is sitting, and the brāhmaṇas, they come. "Sir, you are our protector. You are Kazi. You are magistrate. And this Nimāi Paṇḍita, young boy, He is creating so much disturbance." "What is that?" "He has begun this chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. This is not our Hindu religion. He is chanting so loudly. Now this is the time God is sleeping. So He'll be disturbed. So the whole society will be vanquished if God becomes angry. So He'll be disturbed." So Kazi... After all, Hindus are complaining. So Kazi said, "All right, I am taking steps." So he sent some officers.</p>
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<div id="LordCaitanyaPlayToldtoTamalaKrsnaAugust41969LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1969_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="18" link="Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles" link_text="Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles|Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So He'll be disturbed. So the whole society will be vanquished if God becomes angry. So He'll be disturbed." So Kazi... After all, Hindus are complaining. So Kazi said, "All right, I am taking steps." So he sent some officers. And they were playing mṛdaṅga, and warned that "You cannot do this. You are disturbing here." That is going on still. Just like our Los Angeles, it is going on. In New York also, they complain to the Kazi, (laughs) police officer. But they could not do anything. So this complaint is going on since the inauguration of the saṅkīrtana movement. So Kazi first of all warned. Then He did not care. Then the police also came and broke the mṛdaṅgas forcibly.</p>
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<div id="LordCaitanyaPlayToldtoTamalaKrsnaAugust41969LosAngeles_2" class="quote" parent="1969_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="18" link="Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles" link_text="Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles|Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Then Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, "All right. We shall start thousands of men playing mṛdaṅga, and we shall go to the house of Kazi. Let us see what can he do." So He went with many followers, and many followers playing mṛdaṅga, and Kazi became afraid that "The people have become agitated." So he fled away. Then the people began to create disturbance in his garden. Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, "Don't do this." Then Kazi came back, and Kazi was very submissive, and he said, "My dear Nimāi, You are in relationship my nephew." Because Hindus and Muslims in those days, although they had different religions, they had no animosity. They were living very friendly. So the Muslim elderly man will be said by the Hindus as Chāchā. And the Muslims they'll call Ṭhākura Mosai. Like that. Friendly terms. They will invite. In this way they were living. So the Kazi said that "Your grandfather, I call him Chāchā. He's elderly man. So Your mother is my sister. So You are my nephew.</p>
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<div id="LordCaitanyaPlayToldtoTamalaKrsnaAugust41969LosAngeles_3" class="quote" parent="1969_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="18" link="Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles" link_text="Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles|Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So that is past. This is... Now it has no significance. In this way, both of them were scholars. Then they compromised. Agreement was the Kazi gave order everyone of his descendants, that "Nobody will check this saṅkīrtana movement." So that order is being carried by their descendants still there in Nabadwip. The Kazi has got his tomb. He was a very big man.</p>
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<div id="LordCaitanyaPlayToldtoTamalaKrsnaAugust41969LosAngeles_4" class="quote" parent="1969_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="18" link="Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles" link_text="Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles|Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I mean the Kazi, he can be in the kīrtana?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Out of jubilation, yes. That's all right.</p>
<p>Govinda dāsī: Did he stop this cow killing thereafter? After talking with Caitanya Mahāprabhu?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. Because that is their religious ceremony. Caitanya simply criticized their process, but he replied that "In Your Vedic there is cow sacrifice." Caitanya Mahāprabhu replied, "That sacrifice is not killing. That's giving new life." So that much.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Madhudvisa, he will play the Kazi.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Huh?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Madhudvisa...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That's all right.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He will play the Kazi 'cause he is very... You see? So... So now, in the introduction it says Lord Caitanya was realizing how this sectarianism amongst all the religions was very bad, and so He decided to do away with all material... Well, He could not be... He was not material, but He decided to take sannyāsa at this time.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Sannyāsī... Sannyāsa reason was different. There was some misunderstanding between His students and... They were of same age. Because Nimāi Paṇḍita was very intelligent boy, so He was teaching other boys practically of the same age.</p>
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationSeptember191973Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="76" link="Room Conversation -- September 19, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- September 19, 1973, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- September 19, 1973, Bombay|Room Conversation -- September 19, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: (laughing) These impediments are always there, even in Caitanya Mahāprabhu's time. The Kazi, the Mohammedan magistrate, he wanted to stop. (pause) Kṛṣṇa tvadīya pada-paṅkaja-pañjarāntam (MM 33). So you are devotee of Rādhārāṇī. Eh? Yes, that is good. Through Rādhārāṇī, one should approach Kṛṣṇa. And therefore Vṛndāvana, they, everyone says, "Jaya Rādhe," first of all glorifying Rādhārāṇī. We have got many records. This is one of them, kīrtana.</p>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch61974Mayapura_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="31" link="Morning Walk -- March 6, 1974, Mayapura" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 6, 1974, Mayapura">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 6, 1974, Mayapura|Morning Walk -- March 6, 1974, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Viṣṇujana: First we were afraid. Haridāsa Brahmacārī told me: "Oh, these are Mohammedans. They'll not help us in any way, nor will they accept prasādam." But then I said let us go...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. Everyone will help us. Maybe... In that way sometimes Hindus are also against. It is not the Mohammedans. Caitanya Mahāprabhu's time, even the Hindus were against His movement, the brāhmaṇas. They complained to the Kazi that "This is not Hindu movement." You see? The saṅkīrtana movement. Therefore Kazi had to take steps to stop the saṅkīrtana movement. So Kazi took step on the ground of complaint by the Hindus.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch241974Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="44" link="Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So it is Muslim name. Their forefathers were magistrates. That's all. Kāzi, there is no harm... Munshi, Kāzi. They're common... (break) If you go to anyone, "Hare Kṛṣṇa," they'll understand: "Here is Hare Kṛṣṇa people." That's all. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Anywhere, Africa, Australia, Japan, they know, "These are Hare Kṛṣṇa people." We are known as "Hare Kṛṣṇa people." So there are so many apartments...</p>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="GardenConversationwithProfessorsJune241975LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="109" link="Garden Conversation with Professors -- June 24, 1975, Los Angeles" link_text="Garden Conversation with Professors -- June 24, 1975, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Conversation with Professors -- June 24, 1975, Los Angeles|Garden Conversation with Professors -- June 24, 1975, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: When you can give life. There is sometimes cow sacrifice yajña. The cow sacrifice yajña means an old cow, he is sacrificed in the fire, and by Vedic hymns he is given again new life. To test the potency of the Vedic mantra, an old cow is sacrificed and by mantra he is given again new life. Not for killing and eating. That was discussed between Caitanya Mahāprabhu and Chand Kazi, Mohammedan magistrate. Those who have read Caitanya-caritāmṛta will find. So the Kazi was challenged by Caitanya Mahāprabhu that "You are killing cow and bulls.</p>
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<div id="WalkAroundFarmAugust11975NewOrleans_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="164" link="Walk Around Farm -- August 1, 1975, New Orleans" link_text="Walk Around Farm -- August 1, 1975, New Orleans">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Walk Around Farm -- August 1, 1975, New Orleans|Walk Around Farm -- August 1, 1975, New Orleans]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: They will grow, and they will eat. Rather, they will help you for your eating. The father also eats, but he maintains the family. Therefore the bull is considered as father and the cow as mother. Mother gives milk, and the bull grows food grains for man. Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu first challenged that Kazi that "What is your religion, that you eat your father and mother?" Both the bulls and the cows are important because the bull will produce food grain and the cow will give supply milk. They should be utilized properly. That is human intelligence.</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalksJanuary22231976Mayapura_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="22" link="Morning Walks -- January 22-23, 1976, Mayapura" link_text="Morning Walks -- January 22-23, 1976, Mayapura">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walks -- January 22-23, 1976, Mayapura|Morning Walks -- January 22-23, 1976, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda? One time you were explaining that Caitanya Mahāprabhu, when He was speaking with the Kazi, He convinced him about that the Koran does not actually advocate meat-eating.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That's a fact. Because the Muslims, they also cannot eat meat unless it is sacrificed in the mosque. There is no recommendation that you purchase from the market and the animal be slaughtered in the slaughterhouse.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkFebruary31976Mayapura_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="23" link="Morning Walk -- February 3, 1976, Mayapura" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 3, 1976, Mayapura">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 3, 1976, Mayapura|Morning Walk -- February 3, 1976, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Just like Caitanya Mahāprabhu went to the Kazi. His first question was that "What kind of religion you are following? You are killing your father and mother?" This was His beginning of the talk. "What kind of religion it is?" "How is that? I am killing my father, mother?" "Yes, cow is your mother and bull is your father. You are killing them. The bull is giving you grains by working in the field, and the mother is giving you milk, and you are killing them."</p>
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<div id="EveningDarsanaJuly111976NewYork_2" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="205" link="Evening Darsana -- July 11, 1976, New York" link_text="Evening Darsana -- July 11, 1976, New York">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- July 11, 1976, New York|Evening Darsana -- July 11, 1976, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So where is that Vedic chanter, Vedic brāhmaṇa, yajñika brāhmaṇa? There is no such things, powerful brāhmaṇa. Therefore it is to be avoided. And that was not for eating purpose. To put one old animal in the fire and again he comes back with new life, that was the purpose. This question was raised by Chand Kazi to Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Caitanya Mahāprabhu challenged him, that "What is this your religion, you are killing your father and mother?" So he referred to this, that in..., "Formerly they were sacrificing cows in Your śāstra." So Caitanya Mahāprabhu explained that sacrifice was not meant for eating. That was meant for renovating new life. That is not for eating.</p>
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<div id="EveningDarsanaJuly111976NewYork_3" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="205" link="Evening Darsana -- July 11, 1976, New York" link_text="Evening Darsana -- July 11, 1976, New York">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- July 11, 1976, New York|Evening Darsana -- July 11, 1976, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dhṛṣṭadyumna: "The subject matter has already been discussed in the conversation between Lord Caitanya and Maulana Chand Kazi Shaheb. The animal sacrifice as stated in the Vedas is different from the unrestricted animal killing in the slaughterhouse."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There, your question.</p>
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<div id="EveningDarsanaJuly131976NewYork_4" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="209" link="Evening Darsana -- July 13, 1976, New York" link_text="Evening Darsana -- July 13, 1976, New York">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- July 13, 1976, New York|Evening Darsana -- July 13, 1976, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee (1): I have a feeling it could be just like with the Chand Kazi. When he was... Lord Caitanya made a civil disobedience mood, perhaps if we chant loudly enough...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, by hearing this transcendental vibration they will benefited.</p>
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<div id="Correspondence" class="section" sec_index="6" parent="compilation" text="Correspondence"><h2>Correspondence</h2>
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<div id="1969_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Correspondence" text="1969 Correspondence"><h3>1969 Correspondence</h3>
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<div id="LettertoPradyumnaTittenhurst13October1969_0" class="quote" parent="1969_Correspondence" book="Let" index="610" link="Letter to Pradyumna -- Tittenhurst 13 October, 1969" link_text="Letter to Pradyumna -- Tittenhurst 13 October, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Pradyumna -- Tittenhurst 13 October, 1969|Letter to Pradyumna -- Tittenhurst 13 October, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I beg to acknowledge receipt of your letters dated October 8th and 10th, 1969 and I have noted the contents carefully. I understand from your letter of October 8th that there is a struggle with the Kazi. This obstacle by the Kazi is not new to our Krishna Consciousness Movement. It was there even during the time of Lord Caitanya, but we must steadily go on with our activities without caring for these so-called custodians of law. We are the most lawful citizens in the world, but if some demon Kazi gives stumbling to our execution of duties, we cannot abide by such order. I am very glad to learn that some of the Catholic priests are sympathetic with our movement.</p>
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<div id="1970_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Correspondence" text="1970 Correspondence"><h3>1970 Correspondence</h3>
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<div id="LettertoBhagavanLosAngeles8February1970_0" class="quote" parent="1970_Correspondence" book="Let" index="79" link="Letter to Bhagavan -- Los Angeles 8 February, 1970" link_text="Letter to Bhagavan -- Los Angeles 8 February, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Bhagavan -- Los Angeles 8 February, 1970|Letter to Bhagavan -- Los Angeles 8 February, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This charge against Hare Krishna chanting is not very new. Even during Lord Caitanya's days a similar charge was brought against Him by Chand Kazi who later on converted to become His devotee. So chant Hare Krishna Mantra sincerely and seriously and Krishna will give you all protection. The house in contemplation appears to be very nice and within our means, so please try to get it as early as possible.</p>
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<div id="LettertoSyamasundaraLosAngeles16February1970_1" class="quote" parent="1970_Correspondence" book="Let" index="100" link="Letter to Syamasundara -- Los Angeles 16 February, 1970" link_text="Letter to Syamasundara -- Los Angeles 16 February, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Syamasundara -- Los Angeles 16 February, 1970|Letter to Syamasundara -- Los Angeles 16 February, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The description of Krsna Consciousness movement in London gives me a great pleasure with hope and interest. Lord Caitanya was also checked in His Sankirtana movement by the then police officer, and He led a procession of one hundred thousands of men to the house of the Kazi. So I think Lord Caitanya is planning a situation which will help us in pushing the Krsna Consciousness movement throughout the whole world. I therefore request you all to chant Hare Krsna mantra very rigidly sixteen rounds a day and thus be fixed up in your spiritual strength and everything will come out successful.</p>
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<div id="1974_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Correspondence" text="1974 Correspondence"><h3>1974 Correspondence</h3>
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<div id="LettertoJaduraniBombay15May1974_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Correspondence" book="Let" index="203" link="Letter to Jadurani -- Bombay 15 May, 1974" link_text="Letter to Jadurani -- Bombay 15 May, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Jadurani -- Bombay 15 May, 1974|Letter to Jadurani -- Bombay 15 May, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You mention that in the picture where Lord Caitanya is discussing with the Kazi about cow killing, Lord Nityananda is there with a drum. No, there is no mention of Him being with a mrdanga. He should not have a shaved head as a brahmacari but in the same feature as we always see the two, Gaura Nitai. Nityananda was brahmacari and became grhastha but you should always paint them in the Gaura Nitai style and feature you are already accustomed to doing.</p>
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