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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG145LondonJuly101973_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="6" link="Lecture on BG 1.4-5 -- London, July 10, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 1.4-5 -- London, July 10, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 1.4-5 -- London, July 10, 1973|Lecture on BG 1.4-5 -- London, July 10, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If that condition can be brought in, like Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira or his forefathers, or even his grandson. After Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira, there was no kingdom of Mahārāja Yud..., of the son of Yudhiṣṭhira or Arjuna. All died in the Battlefield of Kurukṣetra. Only one grandson was in the womb of his mother, posthumous child. He was saved only. So up to that point, Mahārāja Parīkṣit, the whole planet was very nicely governed by dictatorship. So we can bring in such dictatorship, provided that dictator is perfectly Kṛṣṇa conscious. Under his guidance, everything... Because he knows how to conduct kingdom, how to make everyone happy. Nirbandhaḥ kṛṣṇa-sambandhe. So here is another list of fighters. But the real purpose of this battlefield is to bring all the fighters, big fighters of the world, together. And under Kṛṣṇa's guidance they would be all killed. Nimitta-mātraṁ bhava savyasācin.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG11619LondonJuly161973_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="12" link="Lecture on BG 1.16-19 -- London, July 16, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 1.16-19 -- London, July 16, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 1.16-19 -- London, July 16, 1973|Lecture on BG 1.16-19 -- London, July 16, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So here Dhṛtarāṣṭra is addressed as pṛthivī-pati, the lord of the world. Pṛthivī, pṛthivī means this planet. So five thousand years ago, from the statement it appears that the king of Hastināpura was the emperor of the whole world, pṛthivī-pati. One king, the whole planet was being governed by one emperor or king, and different parts of the world, other kings, subordinate kings, as they are named here, Drupada, then Virāṭa, Kāśya, in different parts of the world they came and joined. And each and every one of them possessed a different kind of bugle, śaṅkha. So they declared that now we are ready to fight.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG12829LondonJuly221973_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="18" link="Lecture on BG 1.28-29 -- London, July 22, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 1.28-29 -- London, July 22, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 1.28-29 -- London, July 22, 1973|Lecture on BG 1.28-29 -- London, July 22, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The America was considered to have very good government. Now we can see the behavior of Mr. Nixon. It is not possible. Formerly the kṣatriyas, they were trained up how to govern. They were trained up by military men, just like Droṇācārya trained Arjuna, Duryodhana. All the royal princes were trained up how to kill. Not only killing, also, according to śāstra, how to rule over. The king's business is to see that everyone in the country, they are properly employed and engaged in his own business. That is king's business. There was no question of unemployment. This is government's first business. Because if a person is unemployed, then the devil's workshop.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG231LondonSeptember11973_3" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="97" link="Lecture on BG 2.31 -- London, September 1, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.31 -- London, September 1, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.31 -- London, September 1, 1973|Lecture on BG 2.31 -- London, September 1, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Everything is required. It is not that śūdra is not required. Śūdra is required, but if you make propaganda simply to make people śūdras, then who will give direction? If there is no head, who will give the direction? So a kṣatriya, kṣatriya has got a very difficult task to see. Kṣatriya means government, the governing division. So the governing division has got a very important duty to see that everyone is following his duty. The brāhmaṇa is following his duty, a kṣatriya is following his duty, vaiśya is following the duty, and śūdra...</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG42024NewYorkAugust91966_4" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="184" link="Lecture on BG 4.20-24 -- New York, August 9, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.20-24 -- New York, August 9, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.20-24 -- New York, August 9, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.20-24 -- New York, August 9, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Now, where is the fire and where is the clarified butter and where is the expert performer of yajña? The performer of yajña must be so much educated. There was a talk between Lord Caitanya and a Muhammadan magistrate. Because when Lord Caitanya appeared in Bengal, India was being governed by the Muhammadans, Pathans, in the fifteenth century, five hundred years before. Lord Caitanya appeared about 480 years before. So there was a talk between Lord Caitanya and the Muhammadan magistrate.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG43438NewYorkAugust171966_5" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="197" link="Lecture on BG 4.34-38 -- New York, August 17, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.34-38 -- New York, August 17, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.34-38 -- New York, August 17, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.34-38 -- New York, August 17, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So there are other, six important direct disciples. Just like Rūpa Gosvāmī and Sanātana Gosvāmī. Now, these gentlemen were formerly known as Sakara Mallika and Dabir Khas. Dabir Khas. That was the Muhammadan period. India was being governed by that time by the Pathans, and in Bengal there was a Pathan ruler whose name was Nawab Hussain Shah. This... But these gentlemen, Sakara Mallika and Dabir Khas, they were appointed minister in the service, in the governmental service of Nawab Hussain Shah. And, in those days, the Hindus were so strict that anyone accepting the service, especially the brāhmaṇas, if he accepts, if a brāhmaṇa accepts the service of anyone, especially who is not a Hindu, he is at once extricated from the society.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG1841StockholmSeptember71973_6" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="403" link="Lecture on BG 18.41 -- Stockholm, September 7, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 18.41 -- Stockholm, September 7, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 18.41 -- Stockholm, September 7, 1973|Lecture on BG 18.41 -- Stockholm, September 7, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is not kṣatriya, this is not administration. The kṣatriya is, he must come forward first of all. Then others will follow. Yuddhe cāpy apalāyanam. And dānam, he must be very charitable. That is another qualification of the administrator. Īśvara-bhāvaś ca, and the governing spirit. These are the kṣātraṁ karma svabhāva-jam. Similarly, this is second class.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB1320LosAngelesSeptember251972_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="117" link="Lecture on SB 1.3.20 -- Los Angeles, September 25, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.3.20 -- Los Angeles, September 25, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.3.20 -- Los Angeles, September 25, 1972|Lecture on SB 1.3.20 -- Los Angeles, September 25, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Take advantage of it. You see?</p>
<p>So one has to take this Vedic culture to make his life perfect, and... Of course, formerly the brāhmaṇas were so strong. That... they did not like to govern directly. They used to live in the forest, cultivating spiritual knowledge, writing books. They had no interest in taking charge of government. No. They never stood for election. There was no election. So kṣatriya-rudhira. So He purified this earth, the surface of the earth, by washing it by the blood of these kṣatriyas. This is the incarnation of Jamadagni, or Paraśurāma. Paraśurāma. Some of the sages, saintly persons, are still living. Still living. They are tri-kāla-jña.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1328LosAngelesOctober31972_1" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="125" link="Lecture on SB 1.3.28 -- Los Angeles, October 3, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.3.28 -- Los Angeles, October 3, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.3.28 -- Los Angeles, October 3, 1972|Lecture on SB 1.3.28 -- Los Angeles, October 3, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Physical form also there; everything is there. But especially this age, Kṛṣṇa is incarnated in His name. The name of Kṛṣṇa is not different from Kṛṣṇa. So nāma-rūpe kṛṣṇa-avatāra. So Kṛṣṇa is already there. The whole world is now demonic, anti govern..., anti-God, anti-matter or anti-God now. So the incarnation has already come. Those who will take shelter of this incarnation of Kṛṣṇa's name, they will be never annihilated. Take it for granted. Yes. So incarnation. Kṛṣṇa's name and Kṛṣṇa, no difference. That is omnipotency. Omnipotency. Omnipotency means everything is Kṛṣṇa's energy. So the same potency in the energy and the energetic. This is omnipotency.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1514NewVrindabanMay221969_2" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="129" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.1-4 -- New Vrindaban, May 22, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.1-4 -- New Vrindaban, May 22, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.1-4 -- New Vrindaban, May 22, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.1-4 -- New Vrindaban, May 22, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You see. Such misfortunate condition is now in India. They are recommending wholesale cow slaughter in India, to make this business... Unfortunately, we have to be governed by such rascals. So the sooner the Indians give up their..., now, so long these nonsensical things are going on, it is better. It is better.</p>
<p>So jijñāsitam. Nārada says that "You inquired nicely and you have written very nice books also." Jijñāsitaṁ susampannam api te mahad-adbhutam. "And your knowledge is wonderful." Everything, all credit is being given to Vyāsadeva. Adbhutam. Jijñāsitam adhītaṁ ca brahma yat tat sanātanam.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1514NewVrindabanJune181969_3" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="140" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969|Lecture on SB 1.5.14 -- New Vrindaban, June 18, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">There was a discussion between Lord Caitanya and Chand Kazi, the Muhammadan magistrate. That story perhaps you know, that He started civil disobedience movement. And the brāhmaṇas of Navadvīpa, they complained to the Muhammadan ma... At that time, Bengal was being governed by Pathans, Muhammadans, and so there was Muhammadan magistrate called Kazi Saheb. So the brāhmaṇas, they lodged complaint to the Kazi Saheb that "This boy, Nimāi Paṇḍita, He has started one movement, Hare Kṛṣṇa, and people are being enthused, excited to chant this Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra, and He is making propaganda that "Simply by chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, you'll get all perfection." So the brāhmaṇas thought that "If this boy makes propaganda and popularize this Hare Kṛṣṇa movement, then, oh, what about ourself?"</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1828MayapuraOctober81974_4" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="219" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.28 -- Mayapura, October 8, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.28 -- Mayapura, October 8, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.28 -- Mayapura, October 8, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.8.28 -- Mayapura, October 8, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">There will be no need of police. There will be no need of C.I.D. Because if one is God conscious, he'll not do anything wrong. But because people are not God conscious, they are doing so many wrong things that is has been almost impossible to govern the people. Therefore Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is very essential to understand this fact, that samaṁ carantaṁ sarvatra bhūtānāṁ yan mithaḥ kaliḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 1.8.28|SB 1.8.28]]). We have created so many religious system, so many religious system. And the Hindu is fighting with the Muslim, Muslim is fighting with the Hindu, that "My religion is better than your religion."</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1846MayapuraOctober261974_5" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="253" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.46 -- Mayapura, October 26, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.46 -- Mayapura, October 26, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.46 -- Mayapura, October 26, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.8.46 -- Mayapura, October 26, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is stated. Some way or other. So therefore, people are in trouble because so many rascals, they somehow or other manage to get some vote and become the president and minister and... So what they know? They do not know how to govern, how to bring peace in the country. But this monarchy, Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira, just see. Because for the sake of his personal interest so many have been killed, he was sorry. Just see. Not that some way or other, you divide India: "Let me become Prime Minister, that's all." We have got political information that in India when it was..., the proposal was for partition, Gandhi was completely against this partition. He said, "Better I will have no independence; still, I shall not allow the country to be divided."</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11531LosAngelesDecember91973_6" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="299" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.31 -- Los Angeles, December 9, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.31 -- Los Angeles, December 9, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.31 -- Los Angeles, December 9, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.31 -- Los Angeles, December 9, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The United Nation, if you simply understand that "Why you are talking of unity? You're already unity, in unity, because this property belongs to Kṛṣṇa. So why you are claiming that this is mine?" We have created disunity. This is a fact. Otherwise, if the whole... They have now created United Nation. They can govern the whole world under United Nation; let it be accepted that the whole property belongs to the human society. Then what is the trouble? But that thing they will not accept. This is foolishness. This is māyā. Actually it is the property of God. We come here as guests, fifty years or sixty years or hundred years, then we are kicked out: "Get out!" That we do not understand. Because we are allowed to live here for a certain number of years we think it is my property. This is ignorance.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11537LosAngelesDecember151973_7" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="305" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.37 -- Los Angeles, December 15, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.37 -- Los Angeles, December 15, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.37 -- Los Angeles, December 15, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.37 -- Los Angeles, December 15, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Because every planet... Īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam ([[Vanisource:ISO 1|ISO 1]]). Everything belongs to God. Bhoktāraṁ yajña-tapasāṁ sarva-loka-maheśvaram: ([[Vanisource:BG 5.29 (1972)|BG 5.29]]) "I am the supreme owner of every planet." So every planet is the property of Kṛṣṇa. Therefore to govern that planet, there must be a king who is actually representative of Kṛṣṇa. The king's business or the president's business is to see that the citizens, they mistakenly have come to this material world to enjoy sense gratification. They should be trained up in such a way that they can go back to home, back to Godhead. That is king's responsibility. Similarly, that is father's responsibility. Similarly, that is guru's, spiritual master's, responsibility. Similarly, the relative's responsibility. Suppose one has no father, mother; then it is the responsibility of the relative. It is the responsibility of the king.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11538LosAngelesDecember161973_8" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="306" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.38 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.38 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.38 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.38 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Otherwise how it is said that "the land encircled by water" unless it is known? So our so-called Hindus, they say that if somebody goes on the other side of the sea, he becomes fallen. Does it mean that the emperor did not go outside? The capital was Hastināpura, which is now near New Delhi. They say... The Pāṇḍava fort is there. Anyway, so the whole world was being governed by the emperor situated in Hastināpura. One state. There are many evidences. Therefore the history of the whole world is called Mahābhārata. Mahā means greater. Mahābhārata. The history. Mahābhārata is history. They call it epic. No. It is history.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11538LosAngelesDecember161973_9" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="306" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.38 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.38 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.38 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.38 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So formerly, the whole planet, Bhāratavarṣa... It was named Bhāratavarṣa. And it was being governed by one emperor. Therefore it is said here, sva-rāṭ. Sva-rāṭ means completely independent. Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira was not dependent on any other king or any other state. He was fully independent. Whatever he liked, he could do. That is king. That is emperor. If the so-called king or the president is dependent on the votes of some rascal voters, then what kind of sva-rāṭ he is? At the present moment, the so-called president is dependent on the votes of some rascals. That's all. The rascals, they do not know whom to vote, and therefore another rascal is elected, and when he is not doing well, they cry. You have elected. Why you are crying now? Because they are rascals.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11538LosAngelesDecember161973_10" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="306" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.38 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.38 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.38 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.38 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is the business of the king. And toya-nīvyāḥ patim. Toya-nīvyāḥ patim means the whole world, not the modern India, a few yards of land, no. The India was governing. India, the king or the emperor of Hastināpura, he was the emperor. Now, seven seas, seven islands, they are mentioned in the Vedic literature. Seven islands. So the emperor would be emperor of the whole earth and there was everywhere the Vedic culture. Everywhere the Vedic culture was, more or less, principally in that part which is known as India. But in other parts also, the Vedic culture was there. And the Europeans, they belonged to the kṣatriya family, and the Americans also coming from them. Now, in due course of time, five thousand years, there is no history. The modern history can give detail up to three thousand years. They do not know what is beyond three thousand years.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11622HawaiiJanuary181974_11" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="338" link="Lecture on SB 1.16.22 -- Hawaii, January 18, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.16.22 -- Hawaii, January 18, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.16.22 -- Hawaii, January 18, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.16.22 -- Hawaii, January 18, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Everything eat. Control is there, but they do not know what kind of control should be there. The control should be, as we are prescribing, Kṛṣṇa consciousness move..., "You cannot take anything without Kṛṣṇa's prasāda." That is real control. Then you'll be happy. Control is already there, but they do not know because they are being governed by kṣatra-bandhūn. Kṣatra-bandhūn means kṣatriya. Kṣatriya means the ruling class. Kṣat, kṣat means injure, and trāyate, one who gives you protection from being injured. He's kṣatriya. It is the duty of the government that every citizen, never mind whether human being or animal, he may not be injured by anyone. That is responsible government. It is not responsible government that one poor animal, because he does not know how to give him protection, although there is government, he is taken away to the slaughterhouse. This is not government.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB2125MontrealOctober231968_12" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="360" link="Lecture on SB 2.1.2-5 -- Montreal, October 23, 1968" link_text="Lecture on SB 2.1.2-5 -- Montreal, October 23, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.1.2-5 -- Montreal, October 23, 1968|Lecture on SB 2.1.2-5 -- Montreal, October 23, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Government means they should be always thinking how the citizens should be peaceful and happy and spiritually advanced. That is government. And who is caring for the citizens? They are simply exacting tax. That's all. So actually, in the Kali-yuga, because there is no kṣatriya, where is the government? Śūdra government is no government. Śūdra has no right to govern, but by force they are governing. That's all. "Might is right."</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB2323LosAngelesMay201972_13" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="377" link="Lecture on SB 2.3.2-3 -- Los Angeles, May 20, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 2.3.2-3 -- Los Angeles, May 20, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.3.2-3 -- Los Angeles, May 20, 1972|Lecture on SB 2.3.2-3 -- Los Angeles, May 20, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In Moscow, that gentleman, Professor Kotovsky, he said, "Swamiji, after death, there is nothing. Everything is finished." And he's one of the big professors in the country. So this is the defect of modern civilization, that the whole society is being governed by cats and dogs, actually. So how there can be any peace and prosperity? It is not possible. Andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānāḥ.</p>
<p>Blind man leading other blind men. If one has eyes to see, he can lead hundreds and thousands of men, "Please come along with me. I shall cross the road." But if the man leading, he is himself blind, how he can lead others? Andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānāḥ. So Bhāgavata, there is no comparison.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB2910TokyoApril261972_14" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="411" link="Lecture on SB 2.9.10 -- Tokyo, April 26, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 2.9.10 -- Tokyo, April 26, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.9.10 -- Tokyo, April 26, 1972|Lecture on SB 2.9.10 -- Tokyo, April 26, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You see? Due to pious activities of Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira, there was no severe cold or scorching heat, no dangerous disease, infection. They were all free from all this. It can be possible if there is good government. So here is the idea. Pravartate yatra rajas tamas tayoḥ sattvaṁ ca miśraṁ na ca kāla-vikramaḥ. Kāla-vikramaḥ. Here we are governed by the stringent laws of time. I am getting old. Kāla-vikramaḥ. The body is getting seventy-six years. This means time has eaten up my duration of life seventy-six years, influence of time. You cannot avoid it. Kāla-vikramaḥ. Na yatra māyā. Māyā, illusion. Either fixed-up idea. Everyone knows Lord Viṣṇu or Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality, and they are all happy by serving the Lord.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB552HyderabadApril121975_15" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="528" link="Lecture on SB 5.5.2 -- Hyderabad, April 12, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 5.5.2 -- Hyderabad, April 12, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 5.5.2 -- Hyderabad, April 12, 1975|Lecture on SB 5.5.2 -- Hyderabad, April 12, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">No. Rājarṣaya. One must be governor, he must be as good as a ṛṣi, saintly person. Rājarṣaya. They must understand the purport of Bhagavad-gītā, the aim of life. Then they will educate, the governor will educate the citizens how to make life successful. But if he does not understand what is the success of life, how he will govern? But it is going on. But Bhagavad-gītā says, imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ. The Bhagavad-gītā is meant for the rājarṣis, saintly kings, saintly governor. Because he has to govern, he must know how to govern: what is the aim of life, how they can be elevated. Just like Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira, because he was a good governor, good king, so during his time, it is said that kāmaṁ parjanya vavarṣa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB618HonoluluMay91976_16" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="595" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.8 -- Honolulu, May 9, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.8 -- Honolulu, May 9, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.8 -- Honolulu, May 9, 1976|Lecture on SB 6.1.8 -- Honolulu, May 9, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Similarly, the Gosvāmīs, they were ministers. They were not ordinary men, Rūpa Gosvāmī, Sanātana Gosvāmī. Practically they were governing the whole affairs of government at that time, a very exalted post. So about them also, it is written by Śrīnivāsācārya, tyaktvā tūrṇam aśeṣa-maṇḍala-pati-śreṇīṁ sadā tuccha-vat. Aśeṣa-maṇḍala. Maṇḍala-pati means big, big leaders, big, big leaders of the society. He was minister, so he was associating with big, big men, not ordinary men. But he gave up. He's such a position, minister, drawing high salary, and association, all the big, big men of the country or the society. But he gave them up—sadā tuccha-vat, that "What is the use of this?"</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB61813NewYorkJuly241971_17" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="599" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.8-13 -- New York, July 24, 1971" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.8-13 -- New York, July 24, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.8-13 -- New York, July 24, 1971|Lecture on SB 6.1.8-13 -- New York, July 24, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So śruta means we have heard it from authoritative sources; lawbook is authoritative source. Just like śāstra. Śāstra and lawbook is the same. Śāstra means that which controls. Śās-dhātu. Śāstra, śastra, śāsana, śiṣya comes from the same root. Śiṣya. Śiṣya also comes from the same root. Śiṣya means one agrees voluntarily to be governed by the spiritual master. He's called śiṣya. And śāsana, the government. So śāstra means that regulates our daily activities. So here it is called... Śāstra is learned by hearing, not by licking, not by seeing. Just like here is a śāstra, bhagavat-śāstra. You cannot learn it by seeing or by touching or... You have to learn it by hearing. Śās... This is called śruta. Therefore Vedas are called Śrutis. Śruti. Tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum eva abhigacchet samit-pāṇiḥ śrotriyaṁ brahma-niṣṭham (MU 1.2.12).</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB6141LosAngelesJune71976_18" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="668" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.41 -- Los Angeles, June 7, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.41 -- Los Angeles, June 7, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.41 -- Los Angeles, June 7, 1976|Lecture on SB 6.1.41 -- Los Angeles, June 7, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So Kṛṣṇa, guṇa nāma-rūpair vibhāyvante yathā-tatham. He has innumerable means and innumerable forms, according to the necessity. Unlimited forms: Nārāyaṇa, Govinda, Kṛṣṇa, thousands and thousands of names. But He's situated in His own place, and He's governing the whole creation. Īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam ([[Vanisource:ISO 1|ISO 1]]). That is the Vedic mantra. Everything is being controlled by Him. How He is controlling, how He is witness, that will be explained in the next verse.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB614142SuratDecember231970_19" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="669" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.41-42 -- Surat, December 23, 1970" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.41-42 -- Surat, December 23, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.41-42 -- Surat, December 23, 1970|Lecture on SB 6.1.41-42 -- Surat, December 23, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Daṇḍavat class(?). Surrender means you must abide strictly the orders, sad-dharma-pṛcchā, ādau gurvāśrayam. To accept a guru means... Śiṣya means one must agree to be governed by the spiritual master. That is called śiṣya. Śiṣya... Śās-dhātu. From śās-dhātu all these terms—śāstra, śiṣya, śāsana. These are words derived from the root śās-dhātu. Śās-dhātu means śāsana, governing. The governing is done by military, governing is done by lawbooks, governing is done by personal instruction, so many things. So śiṣya means who voluntarily accepts to be guided or being governed by the representative of God. That is śiṣya. Yes.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSBLectureMelbourneMay191975_20" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="873" link="Lecture on SB Lecture -- Melbourne, May 19, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB Lecture -- Melbourne, May 19, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB Lecture -- Melbourne, May 19, 1975|Lecture on SB Lecture -- Melbourne, May 19, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So formerly the kings were trained up in such a way that one man is sufficient to govern the whole universe, whole..., at least one planet. That was the system. The king was so pious. There are many statement, I mean to say, statements about these king. Why they were pious? Because they were also governed. The kings were governed by first-class brāhmaṇas, sages. The brāhmaṇas should not take part in the management of the government, but they would advise the kṣatriya kings that "You rule over the citizens like this." If the king would not do that, the brāhmaṇas had so much power—there are many instances—they will dethrone the king or kill him. But they will not occupy the power themselves. His son will be given the chance. This was the system.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSBLectureMelbourneMay191975_21" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="873" link="Lecture on SB Lecture -- Melbourne, May 19, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB Lecture -- Melbourne, May 19, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB Lecture -- Melbourne, May 19, 1975|Lecture on SB Lecture -- Melbourne, May 19, 1975]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Girl: Śrīla Prabhupāda, if the kings were taught to govern the whole universe, does that mean all the worlds, all the worlds in the universe?</p>
<p>Madhudviṣa: She's just wondering how it would be possible for one king to rule the whole world? It seems like it is very difficult. Nowadays we have so many leaders and they cannot manage...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Forget that. Why you are thinking that you cannot rule over; therefore others cannot? You are thinking in your term. But there are. That is possible. So that is not our field of activities. It is others', politics and...</p>
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<div id="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Lectures" text="Nectar of Devotion Lectures"><h3>Nectar of Devotion Lectures</h3>
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionVrndavanaNovember11972_0" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="29" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 1, 1972" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 1, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 1, 1972|The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 1, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Similarly, we were harassed in London also, and other places. In USA also. San Francisco. I do not know whether we were harassed in New York, but more or less... And in Japan also, they are talking that "You become bona fide religious organization. Otherwise you cannot come on the street." So although there is harassment by the governing agents, still we are coming out successful. Paraṁ vijayate śrī-kṛṣṇa-saṅkīrtanam. All glories to the Śrī-Kṛṣṇa-Saṅkīrtana! Practically. So you stick to this principle, go on chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra anywhere it is possible, and you'll be victorious. That is the blessings of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Believe in it and you'll be successful. Yes. Go on.</p>
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionVrndavanaNovember61972_1" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="34" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 6, 1972" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 6, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 6, 1972|The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 6, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Caitanya Mahāprabhu has warned very severely: tāra madhye vaiṣṇava aparādha hātī matta. Vaiṣṇava-aparādha is the greatest offense. We should be very careful. In... According to our Vedic civilization, a Vaiṣṇava, a saintly person, was never under the government laws. They, they were not under the govern... Why government laws? Even Yamarāja's law. That is also stated. Yamarāja also warned his servants not to approach Vaiṣṇava. So Vaiṣṇava's position is so great.</p>
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionVrndavanaNovember121972_2" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="40" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 12, 1972" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 12, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 12, 1972|The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, November 12, 1972]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Pradyumna: "To support this statement there are many authoritative assertions by the learned scholars of bygone ages. According to their general opinion, a person may become governed by certain convictions derived by his own arguments and decisions. Then another person, who may be a greater logician, will nullify these conclusions and establish another thesis. In this way, the path of argument will never be safe or conclusive. The Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam recommends therefore that one follow in the footsteps of the authorities. Here is the general..."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 17.186|CC Madhya 17.186]]). You cannot come to the conclusion what is śraddhā and sādhana by simply argument. Tarko apratistha. By argument, we cannot establish. Śrutayo vibhinnā. The scriptures are many varieties. Śrutayor vibhinnā nāsau munir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam. And every philosopher must differ with another philosopher.</p>
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionCalcuttaJanuary251973_3" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="41" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 25, 1973" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 25, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 25, 1973|The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 25, 1973]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee: (reading) "...of bygone ages. According to the general opinion, a person may become governed by certain convictions derived by his own arguments and decisions. Then another person, who may be a greater logician, will nullify these conclusions and establish another thesis. In this way the path of argument will never be safe or conclusive. The Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam recommends, therefore, that one follow in the footsteps of the authorities."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. To make progress in devotional service, one cannot manufacture anything. The authoritative statements of ācā ryas, that we'll have to follow. Mahājana yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ. We should not manufacture, invent anything. As they are stated in the śāstras, confirmed by spiritual master and ācāryas, that will be accepted. Nobody can say, "I think devotional service should be like this." No. Therefore spiritual master is the guidance.</p>
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<div id="Initiation_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Lectures" text="Initiation Lectures"><h3>Initiation Lectures</h3>
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<div id="InitiationsNewYorkJuly21221971_0" class="quote" parent="Initiation_Lectures" book="Lec" index="31" link="Initiations -- New York, July 21-22, 1971" link_text="Initiations -- New York, July 21-22, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Initiations -- New York, July 21-22, 1971|Initiations -- New York, July 21-22, 1971]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Rāṣṭrapālikā, governess, governeress. Is that?</p>
<p>Devotee: Governess.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Governess? Governess. You have to govern. So what are the rules and regulations?</p>
<p>Rāṣṭrapālikā: No meat-eating, no intoxication, (indistinct).</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Who is your husband?</p>
<p>Rāṣṭrapālikā: Nitāi dāsa.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Nitāi dāsa. Hare Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Devotee: Vidarbha-sūtā.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Garbha-sūtā.</p>
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<div id="General_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Lectures" text="General Lectures"><h3>General Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureEngagementMontrealJune151968_0" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="8" link="Lecture Engagement -- Montreal, June 15, 1968" link_text="Lecture Engagement -- Montreal, June 15, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture Engagement -- Montreal, June 15, 1968|Lecture Engagement -- Montreal, June 15, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If you deny authority, then why you quote other authority? So you cannot defy authority. This is not possible. From the beginning of your life, when you were child, you asked your parents, "Mother, father, what is this?" Why? That is the beginning of life. You cannot go even a step without authority. You are governed by authority. You are running your car by authority—"Keep to the right." Why? Why don't you defy it? So authority we have to obey. But the difficulty is: who is authority? That we require to learn who is actually authority. So authority means who has no mistakes, who has no illusion, who does not cheat, and whose senses are perfect. That is authority. That is the definition of authority. A conditioned soul who... Just... "To err is human."</p>
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<div id="LectureonTeachingsofLordCaitanyaSeattleSeptember251968_1" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="17" link="Lecture on Teachings of Lord Caitanya -- Seattle, September 25, 1968" link_text="Lecture on Teachings of Lord Caitanya -- Seattle, September 25, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on Teachings of Lord Caitanya -- Seattle, September 25, 1968|Lecture on Teachings of Lord Caitanya -- Seattle, September 25, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">"I am learned." Now, this Sanātana Gosvāmī, he was formerly known as Dabira Khāsa. He was born in a high aristocratic family, brāhmaṇa family, and he was finance minister in the government of Nawab Hussain Shah, the then Bengal governor of Bengal. It is about five hundred years ago India was governed by the Pathans, Muslims, and in Bengal the governor was known as Nawab Hussain Shah. Under his government this Dabira Khāsa was minister of finance, and his brother also, Sākara Mallika, he was also a departmental minister. So both the brothers were in very high position. They were great scholar in Sanskrit and Parsi, Urdu. Parsi, Urdu, you know the language spoken in Arabia, in that part of the world. So they were very good scholar and born in very aristocratic family and associated with rich men, aristocratic persons.</p>
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<div id="SpeechtoMaharajaandMaharaniandConversationsBeforeandAfterIndoreDecember111970_2" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="72" link="Speech to Maharaja and Maharani and Conversations Before and After -- Indore, December 11, 1970" link_text="Speech to Maharaja and Maharani and Conversations Before and After -- Indore, December 11, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Speech to Maharaja and Maharani and Conversations Before and After -- Indore, December 11, 1970|Speech to Maharaja and Maharani and Conversations Before and After -- Indore, December 11, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I shall accept." So that was the Hindu culture, that in spite of being punished by the king, he accepts the king as the representative of Nārāyaṇa. And actually, the Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Lord, He is the proprietor of everything. Bhoktāraṁ yajña-tapasāṁ sarva-loka-maheśvaram ([[Vanisource:BG 5.29 (1972)|BG 5.29]]). He is the proprietor of... Īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam ([[Vanisource:ISO 1|ISO 1]]). Therefore, to govern a planet there is representative of Kṛṣṇa. In the heavenly planets there is Indra. In the sun planet there is Vivasvān. In the Brahmaloka there is Lord Brahmā. Similarly, there are different planets and different representative of Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>So the Vedic civilization accepts the king or the ruler as representative of God, and he is given the... Not only in India. In other countries also, so far we know, in England also the royal family, the king and the queen is given respect as good as to the God. In every country, in Japan also.</p>
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<div id="LectureSanFranciscoJune281971_3" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="88" link="Lecture -- San Francisco, June 28, 1971" link_text="Lecture -- San Francisco, June 28, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture -- San Francisco, June 28, 1971|Lecture -- San Francisco, June 28, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Then their next qualification, next engagement was nana-śāstra-vicaraṇaika-nipunau. Śāstra, all kinds of Vedic literature. Śāstra means which governs. The Vedic literature governs. There is a verbal root which is called śāst. Śāst means to rule. The ruling, there are three kinds of ruling. One ruling is śāstra, law codes. Just like every civilized country is ruled by the laws of the state, and the statute book which contains all the rules, that is called law books. That is also śāstra. That is śāstra. And then another śāsdhātu is śastra. Śastra means weapons, that like guns, swords. Śāstra and śastra. So there are two sections of people: those who are civilized, they are ruled by the śāstra, by the law codes, and those who are law-breakers, they are ruled by the śastra, weapons.</p>
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<div id="LectureSanFranciscoJune281971_4" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="88" link="Lecture -- San Francisco, June 28, 1971" link_text="Lecture -- San Francisco, June 28, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture -- San Francisco, June 28, 1971|Lecture -- San Francisco, June 28, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Both things are required, śāstra and śastra. And sasam, sasam means government. The government has two department—criminal and civil. Civil department is controlled by the śāstra, law codes, and the criminal department is governed by the śastra, weapons. So this is the rule from time immemorial. Both things are required. Sometimes violence required, police force required for the unruly persons. They'll not care for the śāstra, don't care for śāstra, but you care for the śastra. So two things are there.</p>
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<div id="HareKrishnaFestivalAddressSanDiegoJuly11972AtBalboaParkBowl_5" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="119" link="Hare Krishna Festival Address -- San Diego, July 1, 1972, At Balboa Park Bowl" link_text="Hare Krishna Festival Address -- San Diego, July 1, 1972, At Balboa Park Bowl">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Hare Krishna Festival Address -- San Diego, July 1, 1972, At Balboa Park Bowl|Hare Krishna Festival Address -- San Diego, July 1, 1972, At Balboa Park Bowl]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We have divided God's land: "This is America. This is India. This is Germany. This is England." But after all, this is our given name. This planet especially... Not only this planet, all other planets, Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-loka-maheśvaram: He's the proprietor. Formerly, five thousand years ago, this planet was being governed by Kṛṣṇa's representative, Mahārāja Parīkṣit. That is actually life. Kṛṣṇa is the proprietor of all planets, and one should be Kṛṣṇa's representative to rule over the planet. That is Vedic system. There cannot be any king or emperor who is not representative of God. It is the duty of the representative of God to take charge of a planet and educate the persons, the citizens, into God consciousness. That is Vedic way of life. Not that the chief executive or the government simply levies taxes from the citizens and let them go to hell. This is not good government. The government must be responsible for the uplift of the citizens to the spiritual life. That is real government.</p>
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<div id="Philosophy_Discussions" class="sub_section" sec_index="13" parent="Lectures" text="Philosophy Discussions"><h3>Philosophy Discussions</h3>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononGottfriedWilhelmvonLeibnitz_0" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="1" link="Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz|Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: He says that these two types of truth are governed by two different principles: the truth of reason or the logically necessary proof, like the triangle...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is reason, that truth is one. When we find another competitor truth, that is māyā. Truth cannot be two.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: This is what he says, that these innate truths are governed by the principle of contradiction. That is, the opposite of the truth is impossible to conceive. If something is true, the opposite of that truth is impossible to conceive.</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononGottfriedWilhelmvonLeibnitz_1" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="1" link="Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz|Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Opposite is māyā. Māyā is not truth. Māyā is illusion.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Relative truths are governed by the law of sufficient reason. In other words, they can be most reasonably explained by reference to all of the conditions in which they are found.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Just like you can explain how the snow is formed-the molecular structure of the water, and how they become compact by temperature...</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: He says that everything goes by steps in nature, and not by leaps. In other words, there is a law of continuity,  like there are no gaps in nature. Everything is gradual. There is a gradual differentiation.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz|Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No. We say if Kṛṣṇa desired, it would not have fallen. Kṛṣṇa desired it. Kṛṣṇa desires "Let it fall down"; therefore it falls. That is the cause. Kṛṣṇa desires that "Let the fruit fall down and the crow fly away."</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: He says that God is absolute necessity because He is governed by the law of contradiction, and it is impossible to conceive of not God.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: To God there is no contradiction. That is absolute. Whatever He does, whatever He says, that is absolute. There is no contradiction.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Because it is impossible to conceive of not God. In other words, God is absolutely necessary because to conceive not-God is impossible.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz|Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: He says that God is an absolute necessity because we cannot conceive not-God. But man, individual men, are relative truths because they are not absolutely necessary. Because I can conceive that I am not here, that I may die. So he says that we are conditioned, that men are conditioned. They are governed by the principle of sufficient (indistinct).</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That we can see. There are so many politicians, they are very busy. They think that "If I do not remain in the state, everything will collapse." But when he dies, everything goes on nicely without him. That is māyā. So many politicians work so hard, up to the last point of his death he is thinking that "Without me, everything will be topsy turvy." But he dies in spite of his not willing to die. He dies, but things go on without depending on him. Therefore God's will is working, the Supreme Will. You may think so many ways—that is a different thing. Actually God's will is working.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Hegel|Philosophy Discussion on Hegel]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Well, Hitler came not as a king, he came as a usurper. He's not king. That is going on that any rascal, somehow or other he gets power, he becomes the head. But he has no training how to become actually the protector of the citizens. Therefore after the whole world is in trouble. He whimsically declares war and involve all the citizens, implicate. Therefore this support to monarchy is better in this sense that a person, by saint to saint, or by disciplic succession, or hereditary succession, he can be trained and if one man is trained nicely, he can govern over hundreds and thousands inhabitants(?) very nicely.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Hegel|Philosophy Discussion on Hegel]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: No, he says that whatever is, is right, and that this good and this reason in its most concrete form is God. God governs the world.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That also we admit because in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, yad yad vibhūtimat sattvam, mama tejo 'ṁśa-sambhavam, whenever there is some extraordinary power, it should be understood that it is derived partially from God's power. That we accept. So the dominance of American nation is God's favor. We can accept that. Now, if you put on the head representative like Mr. Nixon or some other, then it will deteriorate. If you spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness and if you make your president Kṛṣṇa conscious, then actually you will be God's empowered nation. Let the president become Kṛṣṇa conscious man. Why not?</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Hegel|Philosophy Discussion on Hegel]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: Then he says that this absolute idea, the in and for itself manifests itself in the objective mind such as our laws, our ideas of morality, our social ethics. In other words the individual consciousness manifests itself as a group consciousness, as we have laws that govern the state. These are extensions of our own...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: As soon as we accept a controller, all these things will come. The laws must come, the control must come, the morality must come, immorality, everything will come as soon as we accept a controller. The atheistic persons do not accept the controller, they do everything nonsense, immoral.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin|Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. The, normally, what they call the age determination, or how old a species is, they normally find out from this so-called (indistinct). They find some bone or something which contains normally carbonate. And normally they get this age of the elements or age of these findings by so-called Carbon 14 method. Carbon 14 is an isotope of normal carbon, it is called Carbon 12. Carbon 14 is radioactive. It's one in which they put in the radioactive testing, and they find out because it follows the normal chemical laws or physical laws. This is governed by the Lord Himself, by Kṛṣṇa Himself. They're finding the chemical lowest form, and from that chemical lowest they normally try to reduce the, how old the sample is, and that method is very limited, it is not applicable to all findings also, and a test, a very reliable test (indistinct) to about five thousand, six thousand years old but beyond that it is very doubtful whether the findings are really true or not. (break) It is empiric so we cannot fully convince that such-and-such species lives such-and-such long just from that finding. You need more evidence to prove it (indistinct) was existing and it disappeared from such-and-such time but it gives a relative value from so-called modern scientific point of view.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But evolution we accept. Evolution we accept but it is not that there was no existence of human being. That we do not accept. Evolution we accept. Just like my childhood manifestation is extinct but there are many other child. Same time. So our point is all the species of life, they are existing simultaneously.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin|Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Svarūpa Dāmodara: On the other hand, the so-called physicist... His name was Heisenberg. He produced the concept of the theory of uncertainty, and he found out that certain physical rules that govern certain parts of the so-called universal system of rules—why the planets are moving around the sun, and why they have a repeated course and so on. But he did not know what was the answer. So he named the title of the theory, the Theory of Uncertainty. Based on that, there are so many groups coming up, but they found uncertainty itself, that implies that there is some...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Basic principle is uncertainty, and they're building on big, big buildings.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Carl Gustav Jung|Philosophy Discussion on Carl Gustav Jung]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: Not really... But because there are so many unconscious factors that govern our personality, our behavior, that unless a person becomes aware of these unconscious factors, then he is more or less a slave to them, to his unconscious life. So the whole point of psychology is to point out to a person all his unconscious contents, that he becomes aware of them and faces them face to face.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That we are teaching. That we have shown. But he remains unconscious state. That is (indistinct). That we are teaching. We are simply, loudly stating, "Please wake up. Please wake up. We are not this body. We are not this body." So these are the (indistinct) dream. You cannot raise him to the consciousness. He is fully packed up in matter. That is not possible. But he is also conscious. That is proved by (indistinct). He applied machine: in the remote part he is feeling the pain when you cut.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Mao Tse Tung|Philosophy Discussion on Mao Tse Tung]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Why it cannot be done? Search out the cause. You don't want to die, but you are being forced to die. First of all, answer this problem. Otherwise, "Devils cite scripture." You first of all become perfect. Why you remain a devil? How you can cite scripture?</p>
<p>Pañcadraviḍa: Also his (indistinct) that "If we are imperfect, how can we govern?" Their whole slogan, Communist slogan is "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." How can you get from a person according to his ability and how can you give according to his needs? If all the time there are the four errors of cheating propensity and so many other factors of imperfection are there, how can you possibly take a person and treat him as an individual and expect to have any kind of a reasonable conception of what he is capable of doing? (end)</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Plotinus|Philosophy Discussion on Plotinus]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hayagrīva: He says, "If the souls remain in the intelligible or spiritual realm with the Soul, or Supersoul, they are beyond harm and share in the soul's governance. They are like kings who live with the high King and govern with Him and like Him do not come down from the palace. But if they wish to be independent, if they are tired, you may say, of living with someone else..."</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: Śrīla Prabhupāda, excuse me. The sannyāsī...</p>
<p>Hayagrīva: So when the individual soul decides to withdraw, he becomes fragmented, isolated and weak, when he decides to withdraw from the, what he calls the palace of the King.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Withdraw, withdraw from the material world?</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Plotinus|Philosophy Discussion on Plotinus]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hayagrīva: When he decides to withdraw from the spiritual realm, from the governance of the high King.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Spiritual wrong?</p>
<p>Hayagrīva: Spiritual realm, the spiritual kingdom.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Kingdom. Yes. That is his falldown. When he decides to give up the spiritual life, he falls down in the material life, and that is the beginning of his material tribulations. And so long he will maintain a tinge of material happiness, the nature's life, that he has to accept, a type of material body, and there are varieties. So in all condition the spirit soul remains the part and parcel of the Supreme Lord, but according to the different body he gets different circumstances.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Thomas Hobbes|Philosophy Discussion on Thomas Hobbes]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No. The king is also under the law. King, as we understand from Bhagavad-gītā, Kṛṣṇa instructed the law to Sun-god, and he followed the laws. Therefore he is, to the common man, he is the supreme. The king is supposed to be representative of God in the state. So "above the law" means because king is perfect by abiding the laws of Kṛṣṇa, he cannot be subjected to any subordinate laws. But his perfection is there only when he follows Kṛṣṇa's order. Therefore monarchy, the law, king's order, is final. There cannot be any... Just like king's mercy. Even one is condemned to death, but if the king's mercy is there that he should be excused, he should be free, nobody can check. So why it is? Because king is representative of Kṛṣṇa. Imaṁ vivasvate yogaṁ proktavān aham avyayam ([[Vanisource:BG 4.1 (1972)|BG 4.1]]). He first of all said the laws, the Bhagavad-gītā, which is so important for the human civilization millions of years, at least forty millions of years it was spoken to the sun-god, and sun-god gave it to his son Manu, Manu, and his son Ikṣvāku inherited from Manu. This way the absolute law is coming by disciplic succession. And formerly India was governed by monarchy.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Thomas Hobbes|Philosophy Discussion on Thomas Hobbes]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. Vena. So everything depends on the king's accepting the absolute instruction of God. So king, in Vedic civilization, the king was absolutely following the regulation given by God, and it was confirmed by saintly persons, sages. Then it was executed; not whimsically. There was advisory board of the monarchy always. They were not politician, diplomat, but they were all saintly person, knew very well the Vedas, and they  used to guide the monarch. Therefore the monarch is absolute governing body. The ministers were helping, but the king was educated by God's direct instruction, as Kṛṣṇa said, imaṁ vivasvate yogaṁ proktavān. Vivasvān, the sun-god, there are tradition two kṣatriya family—one from the sun-god and one from the moon-god. Sūrya-vaṁśa and candra-vaṁśa. The kṣatriyas in India, they claim.</p>
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