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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam" class="section" sec_index="1" parent="compilation" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam"><h2>Srimad-Bhagavatam</h2>
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<div id="SB_Canto_4" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 4"><h3>SB Canto 4</h3>
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<div id="SB42216_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_4" book="SB" index="897" link="SB 4.22.16" link_text="SB 4.22.16">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 4.22.16|SB 4.22.16, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">The word ātmavatām is significant in this verse. There are three different kinds of devotees, namely kaniṣṭha-adhikārī, madhyama-adhikārī and uttama-adhikārī: the neophyte, the preacher and the mahā-bhāgavata, or the highly advanced devotee. The highly advanced devotee is one who knows the conclusion of the Vedas in full knowledge; thus he becomes a devotee. Indeed, not only is he convinced himself, but he can convince others on the strength of Vedic evidence. The advanced devotee can also see all other living entities as part and parcel of the Supreme Lord, without discrimination. The madhyama-adhikārī (preacher) is also well versed in the śāstras and can convince others also, but he discriminates between the favorable and the unfavorable. In other words, the madhyama-adhikārī does not care for the demoniac living entities, and the neophyte kaniṣṭha-adhikārī does not know much about śāstra but has full faith in the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The Kumāras, however, were mahā-bhāgavatas because after scrutinizingly studying the Absolute Truth, they became devotees. In other words, they were in full knowledge of the Vedic conclusion. In the Bhagavad-gītā it is confirmed by the Lord that there are many devotees, but a devotee who is fully conversant in the Vedic conclusion is very dear to Him. Everyone is trying to elevate himself to the highest position according to his mentality. The karmīs, who have a bodily concept of life, try to enjoy sense gratification to the utmost. The jñānīs' idea of the highest position is merging into the effulgence of the Lord. But a devotee's highest position is in preaching all over the world the glories of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Therefore the devotees are actually the representatives of the Supreme Lord, and as such they travel all over the world directly as Nārāyaṇa because they carry Nārāyaṇa within their hearts and preach His glories. The representative of Nārāyaṇa is as good as Nārāyaṇa, but he is not to conclude, like the Māyāvādīs, that he has become Nārāyaṇa. Generally, a sannyāsī is addressed as Nārāyaṇa by the Māyāvādīs. Their idea is that simply by taking sannyāsa one becomes equal to Nārāyaṇa or becomes Nārāyaṇa Himself. The Vaiṣṇava conclusion is different, as stated by Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura:</p>
:sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair
:uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ
:kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya
:vande guroḥ śrī-caraṇāravindam **
<p>According to the Vaiṣṇava philosophy, a devotee is as good as Nārāyaṇa not by becoming Nārāyaṇa but by becoming the most confidential servant of Nārāyaṇa. Such great personalities act as spiritual masters for the benefit of the people in general, and as such, a spiritual master who is preaching the glories of Nārāyaṇa should be accepted as Nārāyaṇa and be given all respects due Him.</p>
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<div id="SB42318_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_4" book="SB" index="960" link="SB 4.23.18" link_text="SB 4.23.18">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 4.23.18|SB 4.23.18, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">Unless one is a prabhu, or controller of the senses, he cannot act as spiritual master, who is authorized by the supreme prabhu, or Lord Kṛṣṇa. In his verses praising the spiritual master, Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura writes:</p>
:sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair
:uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **
<p>"The spiritual master is honored as much as the Supreme Lord because he is the most confidential servitor of the Lord." Thus Pṛthu Mahārāja can also be called Prabhupāda, or, as described herein, prabhu.</p>
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<div id="SB42331_2" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_4" book="SB" index="973" link="SB 4.23.31" link_text="SB 4.23.31">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 4.23.31|SB 4.23.31, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">There is no duality between Viṣṇu and the Vaiṣṇava, and this is called advaya-jñāna. A Vaiṣṇava is as important as Viṣṇu, and therefore Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura wrote in his Gurv-aṣṭaka:</p>
:sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair
:uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ
:kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya
:vande guroḥ śrī-caraṇāravindam **
<p>"The spiritual master is honored as much as the Supreme Lord because he is the most confidential servitor of the Lord. This is acknowledged in all revealed scriptures and is followed by all authorities.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_7" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 7"><h3>SB Canto 7</h3>
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<div id="SB7511_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_7" book="SB" index="188" link="SB 7.5.11" link_text="SB 7.5.11">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 7.5.11|SB 7.5.11, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">"By the mercy of the spiritual master one receives the benediction of Kṛṣṇa. Without the grace of the spiritual master, one cannot make any advancement."</p>
:sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair
:uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ
:kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya
:vande guroḥ śrī-caraṇāravindam **
<p>"The spiritual master is to be honored as much as the Supreme Lord because he is the most confidential servitor of the Lord. This is acknowledged in all revealed scriptures and followed by all authorities.</p>
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<div id="SB_Canto_8" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 8"><h3>SB Canto 8</h3>
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<div id="SB82446_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_8" book="SB" index="856" link="SB 8.24.46" link_text="SB 8.24.46">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 8.24.46|SB 8.24.46, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">It is therefore said, ācāryaṁ māṁ vijānīyāt ([[Vanisource:SB 11.17.27|SB 11.17.27]]): an ācārya who acts on behalf of the Supreme Personality of Godhead should be understood to be as good as the Supreme Lord Himself.</p>
:sākṣād dharitvena samasta-śāstrair
:uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ
:kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya
:vande guroḥ śrī-caraṇāravindam **
<p>Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura has advised that the spiritual master acting on the Supreme Lord's behalf must be worshiped as being as good as the Supreme Lord, for he is the Lord's most confidential servant in broadcasting the Lord's message for the benefit of the conditioned souls involved in the material world.</p>
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG327MelbourneJune271974_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="127" link="Lecture on BG 3.27 -- Melbourne, June 27, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 3.27 -- Melbourne, June 27, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 3.27 -- Melbourne, June 27, 1974|Lecture on BG 3.27 -- Melbourne, June 27, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">But that does not mean I am God, but I am equal to God. Or at least you should see like that. That is explained. A guru... That is explained.</p>
:sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair
:uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ
:kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya
:vande guroḥ śrī-caraṇāravindam **
<p>Guru's position is like this. What is that? Sākṣād-dhari. He is God. Sākṣād-dhari. How he is Hari, God? No, samasta-śāstraiḥ: "In all revealed scriptures it is explained that 'Guru, the servant of God, the son of God, the preacher, he is God.' " Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ: ** "It is said." Tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ: "Those who are intelligent, they accept like that." Then next line says, kintu. Why he is God? Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya: "He is God because He is very, very dear to God." So as I said, in the absolute word, God and a person very dear to God, he is also God. But he does not think that he is God.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG71MelbourneJune291974New2003_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="244" link="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Melbourne, June 29, 1974 (New-2003)" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Melbourne, June 29, 1974 ">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Melbourne, June 29, 1974 (New-2003)|Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Melbourne, June 29, 1974 ]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The disciple will offer as respect, as much respect he offers to Kṛṣṇa, to guru. That is the śāstric injunction. For that reason the real guru will not think that "I have become Kṛṣṇa." Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo. By the mercy of guru, you get the mercy of Kṛṣṇa. If, if guru approves, that "Here is a nice devotee," then Kṛṣṇa accepts, "Yes, here is a nice devotee."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG79VrndavanaAugust151974_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="278" link="Lecture on BG 7.9 -- Vrndavana, August 15, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.9 -- Vrndavana, August 15, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.9 -- Vrndavana, August 15, 1974|Lecture on BG 7.9 -- Vrndavana, August 15, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">One who is pure devotee, he's empowered by Kṛṣṇa to act as spiritual master. Therefore spiritual master should be accepted: sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ **. It is described there. Tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ. Those who are learned scholars, actual devotees, they accept. But that does not mean guru is Kṛṣṇa. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Now, that, if you accept, you... Accept means you honor spiritual master as good as Kṛṣṇa, because he's representative. But not that Māyāvāda philosophy that guru and Kṛṣṇa is the same. This is simultaneously one and different. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. He is as good as Kṛṣṇa because he is very, very dear to Kṛṣṇa. Why dear? Because he's preaching on behalf of Kṛṣṇa. What Kṛṣṇa wants, he's doing that. Therefore he's very dear.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB1326LosAngelesOctober11972_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="123" link="Lecture on SB 1.3.26 -- Los Angeles, October 1, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.3.26 -- Los Angeles, October 1, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.3.26 -- Los Angeles, October 1, 1972|Lecture on SB 1.3.26 -- Los Angeles, October 1, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore it is said, sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ. Guru is the mercy incarnation of God. Sākṣāt, direct. Hari-tvena, he is Hari, God. Samasta-śāstraiḥ. It is not that somewhere it is stated, somewhere it is not stated. No. In all Vedic literature. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ **. Uktaḥ means "it is said." And tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ. Sadbhiḥ, those who are real devotees, they accept this. "Yes, guru is exactly representative of Kṛṣṇa, mercy representative."</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1530VrndavanaAugust111974_1" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="150" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.30 -- Vrndavana, August 11, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.30 -- Vrndavana, August 11, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.30 -- Vrndavana, August 11, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.5.30 -- Vrndavana, August 11, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So yesterday we have been discussing the symptoms of guru and the symptoms of disciple—who is actual disciple and who is actual guru. It is stated by Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura,</p>
:sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair
:uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ
:kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya
:vande guroḥ śrī-caraṇāravindam **
<p>So guru's position is very exalted. Exal... Why exalted? Because he is the confidential servant of Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1530VrndavanaAugust111974_2" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="150" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.30 -- Vrndavana, August 11, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.30 -- Vrndavana, August 11, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.30 -- Vrndavana, August 11, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.5.30 -- Vrndavana, August 11, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. One... Suppose you want to do some business and..., with some firm, and a representative comes to transact business, naturally, one tries to satisfy that representative so that the business can be done very fairly. This is natural psychology. Similarly, kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Guru is very dear to Kṛṣṇa because his business is to serve Kṛṣṇa. His business is to execute the will of Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB174546VrndavanaOctober51976_3" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="193" link="Lecture on SB 1.7.45-46 -- Vrndavana, October 5, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.7.45-46 -- Vrndavana, October 5, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.7.45-46 -- Vrndavana, October 5, 1976|Lecture on SB 1.7.45-46 -- Vrndavana, October 5, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Ṭhākura also said, sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. Ācārya, guru, is as good as God. Sākṣād-dharitvena. Ācārya should be respected as Kṛṣṇa. Therefore ācāryaṁ māṁ vijānīyān nāvamanyeta karhicit ([[Vanisource:SB 11.17.27|SB 11.17.27]]). If somebody foolishly thinks that "They are worshiping a man. He's like me, and he has taken the seat, and he's taking worship, respect, from disciples." Sometimes they question like that.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB174546VrndavanaOctober51976_4" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="193" link="Lecture on SB 1.7.45-46 -- Vrndavana, October 5, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.7.45-46 -- Vrndavana, October 5, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.7.45-46 -- Vrndavana, October 5, 1976|Lecture on SB 1.7.45-46 -- Vrndavana, October 5, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So there are eight kinds of vigrahas, and each and every one of them are as good as the other. Similarly, vigraha of guru is also... Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ. This is the injunction of the śāstra. And... "May be in the śāstra, but it is not carried." No, it is carried. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ **, it is said, tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ. Those who are aware of the śāstras...</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB174546VrndavanaOctober51976_5" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="193" link="Lecture on SB 1.7.45-46 -- Vrndavana, October 5, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.7.45-46 -- Vrndavana, October 5, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.7.45-46 -- Vrndavana, October 5, 1976|Lecture on SB 1.7.45-46 -- Vrndavana, October 5, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">They are also... Analogy. There are so many processes. So here, Kṛṣṇa and guru, they should be accepted on the same level. Therefore Draupadī has addressed Droṇācārya as bhagavān. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. It is accepted. We should also accept. Thank you very much.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1843LosAngelesMay51973_6" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="246" link="Lecture on SB 1.8.43 -- Los Angeles, May 5, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.8.43 -- Los Angeles, May 5, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.43 -- Los Angeles, May 5, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.8.43 -- Los Angeles, May 5, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura says: sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ **. A spiritual master is honored as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Honored. Sākṣād-dharitvena. Haritva means "as God." Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ: ** "It is stated in all śāstras." It is not bogus that spiritual master is as good as God. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. Uktas tathā... Because it is stated in the śāstras, tathā, therefore, those who are advanced, uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ. Sadbhiḥ means those who are actually advanced in spiritual life, they obey the spiritual injunction. Then is spiritual master as good as God? The next line is, kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. A spiritual master is not God. He is... The distinction is sevya-bhagavān, sevaka-bhagavān. Sevya means one who is worshiped, and sevaka means one who is worshiper.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11542LosAngelesDecember201973_7" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="310" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.42 -- Los Angeles, December 20, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.42 -- Los Angeles, December 20, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.42 -- Los Angeles, December 20, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.42 -- Los Angeles, December 20, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Samasta, in all the scriptures, guru is accepted as Kṛṣṇa. But he never says that I, he is Kṛṣṇa; neither he is Kṛṣṇa. Then what is his position? Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya: he is the most confidential servant of Kṛṣṇa. He never says that "I am Kṛṣṇa, I am God." That is not guru. Guru must place... He knows perfectly well that he is serving Kṛṣṇa. His business is to serve Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa wants all these fallen souls to be delivered because they are Kṛṣṇa's part and parcel.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11551LosAngelesDecember281973_8" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="317" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.51 -- Los Angeles, December 28, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.51 -- Los Angeles, December 28, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.51 -- Los Angeles, December 28, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.51 -- Los Angeles, December 28, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">To hear about Kṛṣṇa, people may be very much inclined, but the śāstra says, "To hear about the devotees of Kṛṣṇa is still better." Therefore in the...You chant daily, yasya prasādāt. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ **. The spiritual master, it is said that "He is directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead." Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ. Ukta, "said." Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ: ** "It is not only said, but it is accepted by sadbhiḥ, those who are actually advanced in spiritual life, sadbhiḥ." Why? Why the spiritual master should be accepted as directly as the Supreme God? Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. This priya, again, priyāṇām: "Because he is very, very dear to Kṛṣṇa." Not that because he is worshiped as Kṛṣṇa, therefore he thinks himself Kṛṣṇa and declares, "Now I am Kṛṣṇa." No. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. This priya. Priya is word. So therefore try to become priya of Kṛṣṇa. Do, act in such a way that Kṛṣṇa can understand that you are very dear to Him.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11551LosAngelesDecember281973_9" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="317" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.51 -- Los Angeles, December 28, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.51 -- Los Angeles, December 28, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.51 -- Los Angeles, December 28, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.51 -- Los Angeles, December 28, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">He says that tasmāt parataraṁ devi tadīyānāṁ samarcanam: "Better worship... Kṛṣṇa worship, Viṣṇu worship is good, but still better worship is to worship the kṛṣṇa-bhaktas." Because he is very dear to Kṛṣṇa. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Why spiritual master is very dear to Kṛṣṇa? Because his only anxiety is how Kṛṣṇa will be known all over the world. That's all. He has no ambition, pounds, shilling, pence. He only wants to know, only wants to see that everyone is devotee of Kṛṣṇa and they are happy.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1165LosAngelesJanuary21974_10" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="322" link="Lecture on SB 1.16.5 -- Los Angeles, January 2, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.16.5 -- Los Angeles, January 2, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.16.5 -- Los Angeles, January 2, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.16.5 -- Los Angeles, January 2, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore he's called nṛdeva. Anyone who is trying for Kṛṣṇa, to make people Kṛṣṇa conscious, he is a representative of Kṛṣṇa, real representative. Therefore guru is offered the respect exactly like Kṛṣṇa. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata **. Because he is kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya, he's the..., doing the most confidential service, Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa wants everyone to surrender to Him, and the spiritual master is doing the same: "Please surrender to Kṛṣṇa." Therefore he's the most confidential servant of Kṛṣṇa. He should be honored as Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB297TokyoApril241972_11" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="409" link="Lecture on SB 2.9.7 -- Tokyo, April 24, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 2.9.7 -- Tokyo, April 24, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.9.7 -- Tokyo, April 24, 1972|Lecture on SB 2.9.7 -- Tokyo, April 24, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura..., sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ: "All the śāstras, the spiritual master is accepted as directly Hari, the Supreme Personality of Godhead," because he is carrying directly the message of Hari. Then again it is explained... Then Māyāvādī will say, "Then I am God. Because I am carrying the message of Kṛṣṇa, therefore I am Kṛṣṇa." No. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Not that he has become Prabhu, or God, but he is very dear servitor. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Because He is carrying an important message, therefore he is very confidential. And because he is very confidential servitor, he is not different from Him.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB297TokyoApril241972_12" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="409" link="Lecture on SB 2.9.7 -- Tokyo, April 24, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 2.9.7 -- Tokyo, April 24, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.9.7 -- Tokyo, April 24, 1972|Lecture on SB 2.9.7 -- Tokyo, April 24, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Christ, son, and God, Holy Ghost—they are simultaneously one and different? Is that? So that is the position. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ, kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya **. So we can interpret... When the Christian people say that... Just like they say "only son." So we can interpret... Of course, we are not going to interpret. We can take it that anyone who becomes confidential... Just like father position. He has got many sons.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB32530BombayNovember301974_13" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="452" link="Lecture on SB 3.25.30 -- Bombay, November 30, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.25.30 -- Bombay, November 30, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.30 -- Bombay, November 30, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.25.30 -- Bombay, November 30, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">But that does not mean that guru declares himself that "I am Kṛṣṇa. I am God." No. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. He is the most confidential servant of Kṛṣṇa. Therefore he is very dear. And as he is very dear to Kṛṣṇa, if he recommends somebody, "Kṛṣṇa, accept him," He will accept him. Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ **. That is the system.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB3261BombayDecember131974_14" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="465" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet (MU 1.2.12). And who's guru? Guru means representative of Bhagavān. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. Guru... Because the real guru, he's representative of Kṛṣṇa, sākṣāt-hari. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ. In all scriptures it is described that guru is as good as Bhagavān. Means he knows from the right source.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB3261BombayDecember131974_15" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="465" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore he may be, not maybe exactly, but as good, sākṣād-dharitvena. Why? Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Guru is servant, servant God. The master God and the servant God. Kṛṣṇa is the master God and guru is the servant God. Although he's respected as Kṛṣṇa, still, kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya; He does not claim that "I've become Kṛṣṇa." No. He's very dear to Kṛṣṇa. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya. Priya. Priya means dear.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB3261BombayDecember131974_16" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="465" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We do not interpret any way, "This man-manāḥ means this, and mad-bhaktaḥ means that." No. We don't do that. We present as it is. Therefore if Kṛṣṇa sees that "One is presenting My message as I have given," then He is pleased. Therefore, it is said, kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. He has become very dear because he does not, nonsensically, he does not nonsensically change the meaning, that "This meaning's that, this meaning's that." Why? When Kṛṣṇa has said, that is everything perfect.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB3261BombayDecember131974_17" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="465" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.26.1 -- Bombay, December 13, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Similarly, a guru does not change the word of Kṛṣṇa. Therefore he's called Bhagavān, servant Bhagavān. Kṛṣṇa is the master Bhagavān, master God, and the guru, who is serving Kṛṣṇa sincerely, he's the servant God. Therefore śāstra says, sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. In the morning also these boys, they sing Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura, āra nā koriho mane āśā. If you have got a pure, bona fide guru, then whatever he says, you do it. You don't think of anything else, āra nā koriho mane āśā. No more. That is all right.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB32630BombayJanuary71975_18" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="490" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.30 -- Bombay, January 7, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.30 -- Bombay, January 7, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.30 -- Bombay, January 7, 1975|Lecture on SB 3.26.30 -- Bombay, January 7, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Haritvena. It is accepted in all the śāstras, Vedic literature, tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ. And those who are devotees, pure devotees, they accept like that. So why they accept? Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Guru is very dear to Kṛṣṇa because under the direction of Kṛṣṇa, by the paramparā system, he is training, "You do like this. This is paramparā system. Do not deviate." Because he is training people according to the desire of Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa is desiring that everyone should surrender unto Him.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB32630BombayJanuary71975_19" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="490" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.30 -- Bombay, January 7, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.30 -- Bombay, January 7, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.30 -- Bombay, January 7, 1975|Lecture on SB 3.26.30 -- Bombay, January 7, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is His desire. So guru's business is to train people how to surrender to Kṛṣṇa, not to become Kṛṣṇa. That is foolishness. You cannot become Kṛṣṇa. Your respect is as Kṛṣṇa because you are doing the most confidential service of Kṛṣṇa, but if you think that you have become Kṛṣṇa, then you are not guru. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya.</p>
:sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair
:uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ
:kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya **
<p>This sākṣād-dharitvena, equal to Kṛṣṇa, why? Priya eva tasya. Because he is very, very dear to Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB32818NairobiOctober271975_20" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="506" link="Lecture on SB 3.28.18 -- Nairobi, October 27, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.28.18 -- Nairobi, October 27, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.28.18 -- Nairobi, October 27, 1975|Lecture on SB 3.28.18 -- Nairobi, October 27, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ. Guru is nondifferent from Kṛṣṇa. That is accepted by all the śāstra. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta śāstraiḥ. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ: ** "It is said," tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ, "and those who are advanced devotees, they accept it like that." Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya: "But the guru's position is the most confidential servant." So guru is the servant God, and Kṛṣṇa is the master God. Both of them are God, servant God and master God.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB568VrndavanaNovember301976_21" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="574" link="Lecture on SB 5.6.8 -- Vrndavana, November 30, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 5.6.8 -- Vrndavana, November 30, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 5.6.8 -- Vrndavana, November 30, 1976|Lecture on SB 5.6.8 -- Vrndavana, November 30, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You cannot get Kṛṣṇa by studying Vedas. That is not possible. There is Kṛṣṇa in the Vedas, but you cannot pick up. It is not possible. But if you go to the Kṛṣṇa's favorite person... Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Kṛṣṇa's very dear servant, confidential servant, is guru. Nobody can become guru unless he is in confidence of Kṛṣṇa. Na ca tasmān manuṣyeṣu kaścid me priya-kṛttamaḥ. These things are there. Not that by magic one can become guru. No. He must be...</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB568VrndavanaNovember301976_22" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="574" link="Lecture on SB 5.6.8 -- Vrndavana, November 30, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 5.6.8 -- Vrndavana, November 30, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 5.6.8 -- Vrndavana, November 30, 1976|Lecture on SB 5.6.8 -- Vrndavana, November 30, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Saṁsāra dāvānala-līḍha-loka-trāṇāya kāruṇya-ghanāghanatvam, prāptasya kalyāṇa **. Everything is there in the śāstra. We have to see whether a person is actually bona fide agent of Kṛṣṇa. Then we accept him as guru. Otherwise useless waste of time. Gurur apy avaliptasya kāryākāryam ajānataḥ. Guru is very confidential serv... Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. Guru is sākṣād hari; there is no distinction between guru and Kṛṣṇa. Just like if you have got some business with a very big man, when his representative comes, you treat him as the same person because he is authorized agent. That is natural.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB568VrndavanaNovember301976_23" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="574" link="Lecture on SB 5.6.8 -- Vrndavana, November 30, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 5.6.8 -- Vrndavana, November 30, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 5.6.8 -- Vrndavana, November 30, 1976|Lecture on SB 5.6.8 -- Vrndavana, November 30, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Although he was a servant, but still, the honor was given to him just like the king. His dress was like king. He was given honor like king. Wherever he would go, he was received like the king. But he is not king. He does not say that "I am king," but his honor is like the king. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair, uktaḥ **. It is said in our all..., that you sing always, vede gaya yahāra carita. You read this verse daily. Guru-mukha..., vede gaya yahāra car... What is that? Eh? Who can sing this?</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB617HonoluluMay81976_24" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="592" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.7 -- Honolulu, May 8, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.7 -- Honolulu, May 8, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.7 -- Honolulu, May 8, 1976|Lecture on SB 6.1.7 -- Honolulu, May 8, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Those who have taken sannyāsa, they know it. The idea is that "I surrender to my spiritual master or Kṛṣṇa." Spiritual master is identical with Kṛṣṇa because he gives true knowledge. Therefore he is as good as God. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata **. A spiritual master is considered directly as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Sākṣād. Sākṣād means directly. Why? Because he is jñāna-prada. He gives knowledge, real knowledge. That is the qualification of spiritual master.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB6140SuratDecember221970_25" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="665" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.40 -- Surat, December 22, 1970" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.40 -- Surat, December 22, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.40 -- Surat, December 22, 1970|Lecture on SB 6.1.40 -- Surat, December 22, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Viśvanātha Cakravartī said, not that any section śāstra, but all śāstra, all scriptures, they admit that the spiritual master is God directly. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ: ** "It is said. It is mentioned. Authoritative śāstra, actually bona fide śāstra, it is said." Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ: ** "It is said." And sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ: ** "And that is accepted by all strict followers of transcendental science." Not that somebody admits or somebody does not admit. No. Everyone, sadbhiḥ. Sadbhiḥ means "by the transcendentalists, those who are actually making progress in transcendental science and those who are..., objective is to reach the Supreme." They are doing.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB6140SuratDecember221970_26" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="665" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.40 -- Surat, December 22, 1970" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.40 -- Surat, December 22, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.40 -- Surat, December 22, 1970|Lecture on SB 6.1.40 -- Surat, December 22, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Then again, Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura says, kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Why the spiritual master should be accepted directly as Nārāyaṇa and God? The Māyāvāda philosophers, they say, "Yes, spiritual master is God and I am God, you are God—everyone is God." No. That is rectified. Everyone is not God. God is God, and living entities are living entities.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB7928MayapurMarch61976_27" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="835" link="Lecture on SB 7.9.28 -- Mayapur, March 6, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.9.28 -- Mayapur, March 6, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.9.28 -- Mayapur, March 6, 1976|Lecture on SB 7.9.28 -- Mayapur, March 6, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So Prahlāda Mahārāja is one of the mahājana, authorities. How he has gotten this authority? Here it is said, so 'haṁ kathaṁ nu visṛje tava bhṛtya-sevām. So everyone must have his position by giving service to the spiritual master. And who is spiritual master? Tava bhṛtya, who is a servant of Kṛṣṇa.</p>
:yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo
:yasyāprasādād na gatiḥ kuto 'pi
:kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya **
<p>Guru is described, yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ: ** "By the mercy of guru one can achieve the mercy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead." Yasya prasāda. Yasya aprasādāt: "If guru is not pleased, then he has no place." Na gatiḥ kuto 'pi.</p>
:sākṣād dharitvena samasta-śāstrair
:uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ
:kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya **
<p>Why the spiritual master position is so great? Because he is very, very confidential servant of Kṛṣṇa; therefore his position is so great.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB7943CalcuttaMarch231976_28" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="850" link="Lecture on SB 7.9.43 -- Calcutta, March 23, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.9.43 -- Calcutta, March 23, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.9.43 -- Calcutta, March 23, 1976|Lecture on SB 7.9.43 -- Calcutta, March 23, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">There is no difference between Bhagavān and bhagavad-bhakta. There is no difference. But that does not mean, like Māyāvādī, that bhagavad-bhakta is also God. No. That is explained by Viśvanātha Cakravartī. Sākṣād dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ **. Bhakta bhagavān, bhagavān bhakta. Vaiṣṇava, he is equally good like God. Sākṣād dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ. But he's so power... He's more than.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB7943CalcuttaMarch231976_29" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="850" link="Lecture on SB 7.9.43 -- Calcutta, March 23, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.9.43 -- Calcutta, March 23, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.9.43 -- Calcutta, March 23, 1976|Lecture on SB 7.9.43 -- Calcutta, March 23, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Even Caitanya Mahāprabhu could not do it," that does not mean that I am great than Caitanya Mahāprabhu. This does not mean. We are servant. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Bhagavān keeps some work to be done by His devotee to give the credit to the devotee. This is Bhagavān. But the bhakta never takes the foolishness that he is Bhagavān or greater than Bhagavān. Nobody can be equal to Bhagavān; nobody can be greater than Bhagavān. This is all foolishness.</p>
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<div id="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Lectures" text="Nectar of Devotion Lectures"><h3>Nectar of Devotion Lectures</h3>
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionVrndavanaOctober231972_0" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="11" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 23, 1972" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 23, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 23, 1972|The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 23, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The spiritual master is described as good as Hari, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Because the, the spiritual master is representative of Kṛṣṇa because he's most confidential servant of Kṛṣṇa. Kintu prabhor ya priya eva tasya. Yasya pra... Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. The spiritual master is worshiped as good as the Supreme Person. Sākṣād dharitvena. This is not artificial, but in all the śāstras, this is recommended. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. Those who are learned devotees, advanced devotees, they also accept this that spiritual master should be treated as good as Hari, the Supreme Person. Why? Now...</p>
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionBombayJanuary21973_1" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="13" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 2, 1973" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 2, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 2, 1973|The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 2, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum eva abhigacchet (MU 1.2.12). That guru... Guru means Kṛṣṇa's representative, Kṛṣṇa's... Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. Sākṣād dharitvena. Because guru is representative of Kṛṣṇa, therefore he should be respected as good as Kṛṣṇa. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. But because a guru is respected as Kṛṣṇa, the guru does not think that he has become Kṛṣṇa. No. That is foolishness. He's the most confidential servant of Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionBombayJanuary21973_2" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="13" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 2, 1973" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 2, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 2, 1973|The Nectar of Devotion -- Bombay, January 2, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">A faithful servant will never say that "I am the master." "I am servant"—although he's as good as the master. Similarly, a guru is sākṣād dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva, kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya **. He, he is the most confidential, dear servant of Kṛṣṇa. That is guru. That's all. He does not know anything but Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionVrndavanaOctober291972_3" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="26" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 29, 1972" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 29, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 29, 1972|The Nectar of Devotion -- Vrndavana, October 29, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is called vyavasāyātmikā-buddhi." Eka. We cannot manufacture anything as Kṛṣṇa conscious activities, but we must be ready always to carry out the order of spiritual master who is representative of Kṛṣṇa. Sākṣād dharitvena samasta-śāstrair **. The spiritual master is recognized as the bona fide representative of Kṛṣṇa. Sākṣād dharitvena. Therefore he should be offered respect as good as to Kṛṣṇa. Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo **. And if we can please our spiritual master, then we please Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Lectures" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures"><h3>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonCCAdilila11MayapurMarch251975_0" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="1" link="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.1 -- Mayapur, March 25, 1975" link_text="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.1 -- Mayapur, March 25, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.1 -- Mayapur, March 25, 1975|Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1.1 -- Mayapur, March 25, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So that is described here. Kṛṣṇa-caitanya-saṁjñakam. Kṛṣṇa Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He has expanded Himself as gurūn. The guru, the spiritual master, he's also Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ **. In all the śāstras, guru is accepted as Kṛṣṇa. Sākṣād-dharitvena. Sākṣād means directly. Just like you offer your devotion, respects, to guru.</p>
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<div id="LectureonCCAdilila73MayapurMarch31974_1" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="22" link="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 7.3 -- Mayapur, March 3, 1974" link_text="Lecture on CC Adi-lila 7.3 -- Mayapur, March 3, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Adi-lila 7.3 -- Mayapur, March 3, 1974|Lecture on CC Adi-lila 7.3 -- Mayapur, March 3, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Consideration of the five. So although the Absolute Truth is one, He expands in His various features. That has been divided in Caitanya Mahāprabhu's practical exposition of tattva-vicāra, in six: five personal, and the guru is also representative. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair **. Guru is also expansion of Hari for the benefit of the conditioned soul. For the benefit of the conditioned soul, He is within everyone's heart. Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe 'rjuna tiṣṭhati ([[Vanisource:BG 18.61 (1972)|BG 18.61]]). So He's trying to teach us from within and He sends His representative for preaching without.</p>
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<div id="LectureonCCMadhyalila20104NewYorkJuly101976_2" class="quote" parent="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" book="Lec" index="58" link="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.104 -- New York, July 10, 1976" link_text="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.104 -- New York, July 10, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.104 -- New York, July 10, 1976|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.104 -- New York, July 10, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That makes him equal. He doesn't manufacture. If you simply repeat what Kṛṣṇa says or Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, then you become equal to me. Equal to me? That is guru. Guru means who is equal. Sākṣād dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. Why guru is accepted as God Himself? Does it mean Māyāvāda philosophy? No. This is not Māyāvāda. Because he is most confidential servant of God—kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya—therefore he's as good as God. He is very, very dear to God. Why? Because he does not speak anything nonsense what his master does not speak, that's all. That is the qualification. Still, "No, I see that his son addresses him 'father.' He is the father, considering him as ordinary man.</p>
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<div id="Sri_Isopanisad_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Lectures" text="Sri Isopanisad Lectures"><h3>Sri Isopanisad Lectures</h3>
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<div id="SriIsopanisadMantra11LosAngelesMay161970_0" class="quote" parent="Sri_Isopanisad_Lectures" book="Lec" index="20" link="Sri Isopanisad, Mantra 11 -- Los Angeles, May 16, 1970" link_text="Sri Isopanisad, Mantra 11 -- Los Angeles, May 16, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Sri Isopanisad, Mantra 11 -- Los Angeles, May 16, 1970|Sri Isopanisad, Mantra 11 -- Los Angeles, May 16, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If you are sincere... Kṛṣṇa is always sitting within your heart, caitya-guru, the spiritual master within the heart. That spiritual master within the heart manifests himself externally as spiritual master. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. Sākṣāt, directly, directly representative of Kṛṣṇa. This is the verdict of all śāstras. Samasta. Samasta means all śāstra. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva **. And it is not only stated, but it is accepted as such by all great sadbhiḥ, devotees.</p>
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<div id="Festival_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Lectures" text="Festival Lectures"><h3>Festival Lectures</h3>
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<div id="SriVyasapujaNewVrindabanSeptember21972_0" class="quote" parent="Festival_Lectures" book="Lec" index="24" link="Sri Vyasa-puja -- New Vrindaban, September 2, 1972" link_text="Sri Vyasa-puja -- New Vrindaban, September 2, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Sri Vyasa-puja -- New Vrindaban, September 2, 1972|Sri Vyasa-puja -- New Vrindaban, September 2, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The Māyāvādī, they think that the spiritual master is also God. No. We Vaiṣṇava, we don't accept that theory. But actually how a man can become God? No. But because he is God's representative, he is honored as God, not that he has become God. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Just like you have got a dear son. If somebody pats your son, even pats your dog, you become pleased. So the spiritual master is very confidential servant, dog of God.</p>
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<div id="Arrival_Addresses_and_Talks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Lectures" text="Arrival Addresses and Talks"><h3>Arrival Addresses and Talks</h3>
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<div id="ArrivalAddressLosAngelesJuly81974_0" class="quote" parent="Arrival_Addresses_and_Talks" book="Lec" index="14" link="Arrival Address -- Los Angeles, July 8, 1974" link_text="Arrival Address -- Los Angeles, July 8, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Arrival Address -- Los Angeles, July 8, 1974|Arrival Address -- Los Angeles, July 8, 1974]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So I thank you very much for your kind reception. It is necessary.</p>
:sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair
:uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ
:kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya
:vande guroḥ śrī-caraṇāravindam **
<p>This is the process, Vedic process, to receive the transcendental knowledge through the paramparā system, and the reception or honor given to the spiritual master, it goes to Kṛṣṇa. Spiritual master is the official collector. Just like in government there is collector.</p>
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<div id="ArrivalLectureSanFranciscoJuly151975_1" class="quote" parent="Arrival_Addresses_and_Talks" book="Lec" index="30" link="Arrival Lecture -- San Francisco, July 15, 1975" link_text="Arrival Lecture -- San Francisco, July 15, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Arrival Lecture -- San Francisco, July 15, 1975|Arrival Lecture -- San Francisco, July 15, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">. A guru does not say, "I am God." That is not guru. Guru will never say. The Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura's prayer says,</p>
:sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair
:uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ
:kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya... **
<p>A guru is worshiped... Just like my disciples. They are offering respect exactly like God. That is their duty. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ: "All the śāstra recommends that guru should be respected as good as God."</p>
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<div id="ArrivalLectureSanFranciscoJuly151975_2" class="quote" parent="Arrival_Addresses_and_Talks" book="Lec" index="30" link="Arrival Lecture -- San Francisco, July 15, 1975" link_text="Arrival Lecture -- San Francisco, July 15, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Arrival Lecture -- San Francisco, July 15, 1975|Arrival Lecture -- San Francisco, July 15, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">But that does not mean guru is foolishly thinking, "I am God." Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ **. Uktaḥ means "said," "it is recommended." Tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ: "Those who are exalted, advanced, they accept this truth, that guru should be respected as good as God." But why he is respected as such? Because kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya: "Because he is very, very dear to God." The guru will never think that "My disciples are worshiping me exactly like God; therefore I have become God." He is not guru, he is rascal.</p>
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<div id="General_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Lectures" text="General Lectures"><h3>General Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureWhatisaGuruLondonAugust221973_0" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="137" link="Lecture What is a Guru? -- London, August 22, 1973" link_text="Lecture What is a Guru? -- London, August 22, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture What is a Guru? -- London, August 22, 1973|Lecture What is a Guru? -- London, August 22, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So guru is the representative of God. Therefore the śāstra says, the authority says, sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair. Guru is as good as God. Here, in this Vyāsa-pūjā day, we are teaching or they are doing, offering respect to guru. That means they are learning how to offer respect to God.</p>
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<div id="LectureWhatisaGuruLondonAugust221973_1" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="137" link="Lecture What is a Guru? -- London, August 22, 1973" link_text="Lecture What is a Guru? -- London, August 22, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture What is a Guru? -- London, August 22, 1973|Lecture What is a Guru? -- London, August 22, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Here, in this Vyāsa-pūjā day, we are teaching or they are doing, offering respect to guru. That means they are learning how to offer respect to God. It is not personal affair; it is required. Because they are trying to be God conscious, they must learn how to offer respect to God or God's representative. That is required. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair. In all the śāstra, Vedic literature, guru is described as good as God. But guru will never say that "I am God." The disciple's duty is to offer respect to guru as he offers respect to God.</p>
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<div id="LectureWhatisaGuruLondonAugust221973_2" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="137" link="Lecture What is a Guru? -- London, August 22, 1973" link_text="Lecture What is a Guru? -- London, August 22, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture What is a Guru? -- London, August 22, 1973|Lecture What is a Guru? -- London, August 22, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">But guru will never say that "I am... Because my disciples are offering me respect as God, therefore I have become God." As soon as he thinks so, he becomes dog. He is no more God. Therefore Viśvanātha Cakravartī says... Why guru is offered respect like God? Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Guru is offered the same respect as we offer respect to God. Just like in the morning. The other side, ārātrika was going on, offering to Kṛṣṇa, and this side was ārātrika was going on to offer respect to the spiritual master.</p>
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<div id="PandalSpeechandQuestionSessionDelhiNovember101973_3" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="145" link="Pandal Speech and Question Session -- Delhi, November 10, 1973" link_text="Pandal Speech and Question Session -- Delhi, November 10, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Pandal Speech and Question Session -- Delhi, November 10, 1973|Pandal Speech and Question Session -- Delhi, November 10, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like in our country there was viceroy. He was given the same respect as the king because he is representative of..., the royal representative. Similarly, śāstra says,</p>
:sākṣād dharitvena samasta-śāstrair
:uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ
:kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya
:vande guroḥ śrī-caraṇāravindam **
<p>This is the offering obeisance to guru. Guru is described as respectable as the Supreme Personality of God. Ācāryaṁ māṁ vijānīyāt ([[Vanisource:SB 11.17.27|SB 11.17.27]]). The Supreme Personality of Godhead says that "Ācārya should be accepted as I am.</p>
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<div id="LectureatWorldHealthOrganizationGenevaJune61974_4" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="147" link="Lecture at World Health Organization -- Geneva, June 6, 1974" link_text="Lecture at World Health Organization -- Geneva, June 6, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture at World Health Organization -- Geneva, June 6, 1974|Lecture at World Health Organization -- Geneva, June 6, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Those who are claiming that "I am God," cheating people, they are not gurus. Guru means he's always... Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya **. That is the definition of guru. Guru is accepted as good as God, sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ, in all Vedic literature, tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ, and those who are learned, advanced, they accept it.</p>
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<div id="LectureatWorldHealthOrganizationGenevaJune61974_5" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="147" link="Lecture at World Health Organization -- Geneva, June 6, 1974" link_text="Lecture at World Health Organization -- Geneva, June 6, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture at World Health Organization -- Geneva, June 6, 1974|Lecture at World Health Organization -- Geneva, June 6, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">But what is the position of guru? Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya: "Guru is the most confidential servant of God." That is his position. So people do not come to us, but we are going, canvassing. This is the position.</p>
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<div id="Philosophy_Discussions" class="sub_section" sec_index="13" parent="Lectures" text="Philosophy Discussions"><h3>Philosophy Discussions</h3>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononCarlGustavJung_2" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="18" link="Philosophy Discussion on Carl Gustav Jung" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Carl Gustav Jung">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Carl Gustav Jung|Philosophy Discussion on Carl Gustav Jung]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. That is the Vedic injunction. Tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet (MU 1.2.12). It is essential that one must go to guru and with guru Guru is representative of God. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair **. He, guru, being representative of God, he is worshiped as God, but he never says that "I am God." He is servant God. He is worshiped as God, but he is servant of God, and God is the master God. This is the conception of Vaiṣṇava philosophy.</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononGeorgeWilhelmFriedrichHegel_1" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="43" link="Philosophy Discussion on George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel|Philosophy Discussion on George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Without perfect, whatever I write, that is nonsense. That is nonsense. That is the difference-paramparā system. All these philosophers, they are simply talking nonsense, and whatever we are writing, there is meaning. Why? Because we are studying God from God. This is our perfection. We are not speculating about God. That is the difference. Now we are expanding my knowledge so that you can understand. That is my writing. But my basic principle is that I have understood God from God, not by speculation. That is my qualification. If I know God from God, then my knowledge about God is perfect. Then whatever I write, that is perfect. Therefore Viśvanātha  Cakravartī Ṭhākura says, sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair **, that therefore all scriptures accept the guru, spiritual master, as directly the Supreme Lord. Why? He does not speak anything nonsense. That is; therefore he is called servitor God. He is serving God, giving the same knowledge as God has given to him; therefore he is perfect. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva **. So knowledge, if we, if we take God, what is God, if we understand from God, then our knowledge of God is perfect. Simply by speculating you cannot become perfect. That is not possible. So if Mr. Hegel...?</p>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1972 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1972 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="TalkwithBobCohenFebruary27291972Mayapura_0" class="quote" parent="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="5" link="Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura" link_text="Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura|Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: You have to carry out his order. That's all. God's representative is guru. So he's asking you to do this, to do that. If you do that, that is pleasing. Yasyāprasādān na gatiḥ kuto 'pi. If you displease him, then you are nowhere. Therefore we worship guru. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. A guru should be accepted as God. That is the injunction of all śāstras.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithJohnGriesserlaterinitiatedasYadubaraDasaMarch101972Vrndavana_1" class="quote" parent="1972_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="6" link="Room Conversation with John Griesser (later initiated as Yadubara Dasa) -- March 10, 1972, Vrndavana" link_text="Room Conversation with John Griesser (later initiated as Yadubara Dasa) -- March 10, 1972, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with John Griesser (later initiated as Yadubara Dasa) -- March 10, 1972, Vrndavana|Room Conversation with John Griesser (later initiated as Yadubara Dasa) -- March 10, 1972, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda:  Na martya-buddhyāsūyeta, "Never be envious of the ācārya, thinking him as anything of this material world." Ācāryaṁ māṁ vijānīyān ([[Vanisource:SB 11.17.27|SB 11.17.27]]). Therefore, ācārya's position is as good as Kṛṣṇa. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair **. Ācārya is always cautious that he may not be subject to criticism. But who criticizes ācārya, he becomes immediately offender. Because he is playing the part of ācārya, he plays as far as possible.</p>
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationWithDavidLawrenceJuly121973London_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="44" link="Room Conversation With David Lawrence -- July 12, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation With David Lawrence -- July 12, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation With David Lawrence -- July 12, 1973, London|Room Conversation With David Lawrence -- July 12, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, how he could claim? He's a devotee of God, he's servant of God. How he can claim? Of course, there is no difference between God and His servant. Yes. That we say. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata... **. Because a devotee, like Lord Jesus Christ, means confidential servant of God, there is no difference between God and himself.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationWithDavidLawrenceJuly121973London_1" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="44" link="Room Conversation With David Lawrence -- July 12, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation With David Lawrence -- July 12, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation With David Lawrence -- July 12, 1973, London|Room Conversation With David Lawrence -- July 12, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Similarly, anyone who represents God or the cause of God, he's not different from God. We should offer respect to such person exactly like God. That is our instruction of the ācāryas. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ **. In every śāstra the spiritual master is recognized as personally the Supreme Lord. But in... Why he is recognized? Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Because he's the most dear servant of the Lord. And that is natural.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationWithDavidLawrenceJuly121973London_2" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="44" link="Room Conversation With David Lawrence -- July 12, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation With David Lawrence -- July 12, 1973, London">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation With David Lawrence -- July 12, 1973, London|Room Conversation With David Lawrence -- July 12, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So this is the ordinary etiquette, what to speak of the actual representative of God. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ **. Uktaḥ means "it is already said." Tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ. Those who are advanced in devotional service, they accept this principle. But why? Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Because he is the most confidential servant, representative. Vande guroḥ śrī-caraṇāravindam.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember151973LosAngeles_3" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="101" link="Morning Walk -- December 15, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 15, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 15, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 15, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Therefore we sing in the Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura's prayer, sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ: "In every śāstra, guru is accepted as directly Kṛṣṇa." Sākṣāt. Sākṣāt means directly. Sākṣād-dharitvena: As Kṛṣṇa, is accepted in every śāstra, sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ **, it is said, uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **, and this statement is accepted by advanced devotees. It is not only statement, but it is accepted. But the next question is: "Does it mean that guru is Kṛṣṇa? Therefore no more Kṛṣṇa wanted?" No. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya: "Guru is exalted because he is very confidential servant of Kṛṣṇa." Here it is clear.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember151973LosAngeles_4" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="101" link="Morning Walk -- December 15, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 15, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 15, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- December 15, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Kintu: "But don't think that there is no more Kṛṣṇa, finished. Guru is here." Just like the Māyāvādīs say, just like this rascal Guruji, that "I am Kṛṣṇa." Not that. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. He is the most confidential servant. Vande guroḥ śrī-caraṇāravindam. This is clear explanation. Although he is respected as good as Kṛṣṇa, but he never says that "I am Kṛṣṇa." He says, "I am servant of Kṛṣṇa." And actually he is the most confidential servant of Kṛṣṇa. Therefore we distinguish in this line that sevya-bhagavān and sevaka-bhagavān: "worshipable God and worshiper God." You follow? God, but worshiper God.</p>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkFebruary231974Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="25" link="Morning Walk -- February 23, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 23, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 23, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- February 23, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That's all right. That is all right. I mean to say that sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. When you accept guru equal to Kṛṣṇa, then you cannot make such distinction.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkFebruary231974Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="25" link="Morning Walk -- February 23, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 23, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 23, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- February 23, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: And similarly, similarly, guru also—no within, no without. Otherwise how we can say, sākṣād-dharitvena. Directly, if you make distinction, how he can be directly?</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Within, without is (indistinct).</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. But he has attained that position on account of his being very, very dear to God. Because doing God's work. Eh? God says, "Surrender unto Me." Guru is preaching... That is real guru. He's preaching, "Surrender to Kṛṣṇa." He'll never say, "Surrender unto Me."</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: No guru says so.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch241974Bombay_2" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="44" link="Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 24, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ **, it is said. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. And this principle is accepted by great saintly persons. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. He's not one with the Prabhu, but he's very dear servant of Prabhu.</p>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithPsychiatristFebruary221975Caracas_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="11" link="Room Conversation with Psychiatrist -- February 22, 1975, Caracas" link_text="Room Conversation with Psychiatrist -- February 22, 1975, Caracas">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Psychiatrist -- February 22, 1975, Caracas|Room Conversation with Psychiatrist -- February 22, 1975, Caracas]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. Spiritual master is the servant of God. He is not God. Although he is respected like God. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. Spiritual master is described as good as God in all scriptures. And all advanced spiritualists accept this. But he is the most confidential servant of God. Because he receives respect like God, he does not think at any time that he is God. He always thinks himself as eternal servant of God. (pause) (break) What is the difference between animal and man?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithwriterSandyNixonJuly131975Philadelphia_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="141" link="Room Conversation with writer, Sandy Nixon -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia" link_text="Room Conversation with writer, Sandy Nixon -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with writer, Sandy Nixon -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia|Room Conversation with writer, Sandy Nixon -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes, that is devotee's duty. Just like a government officer. Personally he is not very important, but so long he executes government order, he should be respected as government. That is the way. Even a ordinary policeman comes, you have to respect him because he is government man. But that does not mean he is government. He is respected. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. If that man thinks that "I have become government. People are respecting me," then he is foolish. So... But it is the etiquette. If the government man comes, you should respect him as government.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkDecember201975Bombay_2" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="266" link="Morning Walk -- December 20, 1975, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- December 20, 1975, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- December 20, 1975, Bombay|Morning Walk -- December 20, 1975, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda:</p>
:sākṣād-haritvena samasta-śāstrair
:yuktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ
:kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya
:vande guroḥ śrī caraṇāravindam
<p>In every śāstra you'll find, just like you say, gurur brahma gurur viṣṇuḥ. In other words, sākṣād-haritvena, directly Hari.</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithSiddhasvarupaMay31976Honolulu_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="95" link="Room Conversation with Siddha-svarupa -- May 3, 1976, Honolulu" link_text="Room Conversation with Siddha-svarupa -- May 3, 1976, Honolulu">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Siddha-svarupa -- May 3, 1976, Honolulu|Room Conversation with Siddha-svarupa -- May 3, 1976, Honolulu]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Go on. Yes, arcye viṣṇau śilā-dhīr guruṣu nara-matiḥ. Narakī, if anyone thinks arca-vigraha, the Deities as made of stone, made of earth, or made of something material, and guru, the spiritual master, "He is an ordinary man"—these are forbidden. So why guru is to be considered sākṣād dharitvena samasta-śāstrair **, exactly (like) the Supreme Personality of Godhead? That reason is given there. That reason is that he is giving the Kṛṣṇa knowledge; therefore he is as good as Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="GardenConversationJune81976LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="116" link="Garden Conversation -- June 8, 1976, Los Angeles" link_text="Garden Conversation -- June 8, 1976, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Conversation -- June 8, 1976, Los Angeles|Garden Conversation -- June 8, 1976, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa's representative means the representative says the same thing as Kṛṣṇa says. Kṛṣṇa says "Surrender unto Me," and the representative says "Surrender to Kṛṣṇa." And because he delivers the real knowledge, he's as good as Kṛṣṇa. Therefore sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. The spiritual master may appear to be just like a common man, but he is to be respected as God, because he delivers the real message of God. That is the qualification of spiritual master.</p>
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<div id="GardenConversationJune81976LosAngeles_2" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="116" link="Garden Conversation -- June 8, 1976, Los Angeles" link_text="Garden Conversation -- June 8, 1976, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Conversation -- June 8, 1976, Los Angeles|Garden Conversation -- June 8, 1976, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: The message is already there. You have to simply deliver to the suffering humanity. Then he'll be relieved. And because he delivers the real reality, therefore he's worshiped as God. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. Ācāryaṁ māṁ hi vijānīyāt. Kṛṣṇa also says ācārya is..., "I am ācārya." Because when there is, na ca tasmān manuṣyeṣu kaścin me priya-kṛttamaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 18.69 (1972)|BG 18.69]]).</p>
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<div id="AnswerstoaQuestionnairefromBhavansJournalJune281976Vrndavana_3" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="169" link="Answers to a Questionnaire from Bhavan's Journal -- June 28, 1976, Vrndavana" link_text="Answers to a Questionnaire from Bhavan's Journal -- June 28, 1976, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Answers to a Questionnaire from Bhavan's Journal -- June 28, 1976, Vrndavana|Answers to a Questionnaire from Bhavan's Journal -- June 28, 1976, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So if somebody says this small box, red box, is as good as the post office, one may say, "Huh, this is small box. How it can be as good as the post office?" But you see. You post your letter, it will go. Therefore, sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. Guru is directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Why? Because he is presenting the words of Supreme Personality of Godhead without any deterioration. Therefore he is so honored. So therefore the conclusion is guru is necessary and guru is he who is representative of Kṛṣṇa. Otherwise he's bogus.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationJuly311976NewMayapurFrenchfarm_4" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="235" link="Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)" link_text="Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)|Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Vasan dānto guror hitam. The beginning of life is how to become cent percent obedient to guru. That is Gurukula. That training should be given. The whole process is that our life will be successful when we strictly follow guru and Kṛṣṇa. Guru means Kṛṣṇa; Kṛṣṇa means guru. Not Māyāvāda, but guru means one who follows Kṛṣṇa, he is guru. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. So guru is directly God, sākṣād-hari. Sākṣād means directly. So sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas **, in every śāstra it is said the guru is one, Kṛṣṇa. So, it is stated in the śāstra and it is accepted by authorities. Not that it is simply stated. Samasta-śāstrair, uktas. You understand little Sanskrit?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationJuly311976NewMayapurFrenchfarm_5" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="235" link="Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)" link_text="Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)|Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Huh? Ukta, ukta means "said." And sadbhiḥ, "by great personalities." Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas **, tathā, and "accordingly," tathā means "accordingly," bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ, those who are actually in transcendental platform, they should accept it. So why? Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva... It does not mean Māyāvādī, that he has become God. But kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya, he is the most confidential servant. He's therefore servant-God. He's God, servant-God. God is master-God. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. So why he has become priya? That is, Kṛṣṇa says personally, na ca tasmān manuṣyeṣu kaścin me priya-kṛttamaḥ: ([[Vanisource:BG 18.69 (1972)|BG 18.69]]) nobody is dearer than him in the whole world. Why? Ya idaṁ paramaṁ guhyaṁ mad-bhakteṣv abhidā... (Bg 18.68). "Who preaches this gospel of Bhagavad-gītā among My devotees." So the guru has got two business.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationJuly311976NewMayapurFrenchfarm_6" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="235" link="Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)" link_text="Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)|Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So if one has got bona fide guru, and if he follows that bona fide guru, then his life is success. This is the process. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair **. So Gurukula means to teach how to become very, very faithful, cent percent faithful, to the bona fide guru.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkSeptember21976NewDelhi_7" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="292" link="Morning Walk -- September 2, 1976, New Delhi" link_text="Morning Walk -- September 2, 1976, New Delhi">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- September 2, 1976, New Delhi|Morning Walk -- September 2, 1976, New Delhi]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, you could not. (break) Uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya: ** "The spiritual master is as good as God because he's very dear to Kṛṣṇa." He's preaching Kṛṣṇa's mission, and Kṛṣṇa is very, very pleased with him. Na ca tasmān manuṣyeṣu kaścin me priya-kṛttamaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 18.69 (1972)|BG 18.69]]). That is spiritual master's qualification. He's trying his best to deliver the soul from these clutches of māyā. That is a great service. Therefore he is very dear. One who is chanting or executing devotional service for his personal benefit and one who is trying to deliver others for others' benefit, there is difference.</p>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="TalkwithSvarupaDamodaraJune201977Vrndavana_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="191" link="Talk with Svarupa Damodara -- June 20, 1977, Vrndavana" link_text="Talk with Svarupa Damodara -- June 20, 1977, Vrndavana">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Talk with Svarupa Damodara -- June 20, 1977, Vrndavana|Talk with Svarupa Damodara -- June 20, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Therefore he is āśraya, electrified. Sākṣād-dharitvena samastra-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva, kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. Priya viśaya. Therefore he can act as āśraya. Āśraya laiyā bhaje, kṛṣṇa nāhi tāre tyaje, āra saba more akara. Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura. Āśraya laiyā bhaje, kṛṣṇa nāhi tāre tyaje, āra saba more akara. Others simply wasting time.</p>
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<div id="Correspondence" class="section" sec_index="6" parent="compilation" text="Correspondence"><h2>Correspondence</h2>
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<div id="1970_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="5" parent="Correspondence" text="1970 Correspondence"><h3>1970 Correspondence</h3>
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<div id="LettertoBalmukundjiLosAngeles13May1970_0" class="quote" parent="1970_Correspondence" book="Let" index="302" link="Letter to Balmukundji -- Los Angeles 13 May, 1970" link_text="Letter to Balmukundji -- Los Angeles 13 May, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Balmukundji -- Los Angeles 13 May, 1970|Letter to Balmukundji -- Los Angeles 13 May, 1970]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In my last letter I advised you that your Devanagari Lipi class should begin by chanting Hare Krsna Mantra, but if you find the time is short, then instead of reciting the Guru mantra quoted by you which is of impersonal mature, you can chant the following verse which we do along with others.</p>
:saksadharitvena samasta sastrair
:uktas tatha bhavyata eva sadbhih
:kintu prabhor yah priya eva tasya
:vande guroh sri caranaravindam **
:The verse quoted by you is not approved by us.
<p>Regarding your inquiry about Aurobindo, I may inform you that Aurobindo does not belong to the Bhakti school. He is more or less a dry philosopher, mental speculator, with some mystic ideas. We are simply concerned with pure devotees, so we have nothing to learn from Aurobindo.</p>
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<div id="1976_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Correspondence" text="1976 Correspondence"><h3>1976 Correspondence</h3>
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<div id="LettertoKarandharaMayapur29January1976_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Correspondence" book="Let" index="83" link="Letter to Karandhara -- Mayapur 29 January, 1976" link_text="Letter to Karandhara -- Mayapur 29 January, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Karandhara -- Mayapur 29 January, 1976|Letter to Karandhara -- Mayapur 29 January, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The photos of my murti are very nice. The murti of the Spiritual Master should be treated as good as the Deity. Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastrair, uktas tatha bhavyata eva sadbhih/kintu prabhor yah priya eva tasya **, The guru should be treated as good as God. This is stated in all the sastras. The difference is that God is master-God and guru is servant-God. So the installation ceremony for such a murti should be similar to that done for other Deities. All Temples can have this Deity if they like. But Temples which have only Panca-tattva painting worship should not be given this Deity.</p>
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