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[[Category:Prabhupada Responding to Comments]]
[[Category:Prabhupada Responding to Comments... 1974]]
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithChristianPriestJune91974Paris_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="104" link="Room Conversation with Christian Priest -- June 9, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Christian Priest -- June 9, 1974, Paris">
<div class="heading">That's all right. So if you have no name, then why don't you take this name, "Kṛṣṇa"?
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Christian Priest -- June 9, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with Christian Priest -- June 9, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Jyotirmayī: He would like to know if to instruct young Christians to chant the name of Kṛṣṇa will be helping them attain the highest perfection or if it is changing their religion.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. We are recommending "Chant the holy name of God." So if you have got the holy name of God, you can chant that.</p>
<p>Jyotirmayī: (French)</p>
<p>Man: (French)</p>
<p>Jyotirmayī: He said that in Christianity God has no name.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm?</p>
<p>Jyotirmayī: God has no name in Christianity, but the son of God has a name. And before they use for a long time, and everywhere they were saying the name of Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But they say that in Christianity there is a name of God. They say. No?</p>
<p>Jyotirmayī: (French)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But you said that His name be glorified.</p>
<p>Devotee: They say "Hallowed be Thy name."</p>
<p>Priest: But the name is not said.</p>
<p>Devotee: Yes.</p>
<p>Priest: Never said.</p>
<p>Devotee: Jesus said that "All I have taught you is not the total sum of the knowledge of God," he says, "but there is more to be told."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That's all right. So if you have no name, then why don't you take this name, "Kṛṣṇa"?</p>
<p>Jyotirmayī: (French)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is the objection?</p>
<p>Man: (French)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Caitanya Mahāprabhu says... Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, nāmnām akāri bahudhā nija-sarva-śaktis.</p>
:nāmnām akāri bahudhā nija-sarva-śaktis
:tatrārpitā niyamitaḥ smaraṇe na kālaḥ
:etādṛśī tava kṛpā bhagavan mamāpi
:durdaivam īdṛśam ihājani nānurāgaḥ
<p>Bahudhā: God has many names. If you are missing, so you can take one of the name. Kṛṣṇa is one of the names, so what is the objection? And Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, "In this name, all the potencies of God is there." Nāmnām akāri bahudhā nija-sarva-śakti tatrārpitā. That name is as powerful as God Himself. There is no difference between the name and God, because He is absolute. Here in the material world there is the difference between name and the person or the thing. If I am thirsty, if I simply chant "water, water, water," that will not appease my thirstiness. But the spiritual world, absolute, the name and the person is the same. Abhinnatvān nāma-nāminoḥ ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 17.133|CC Madhya 17.133]]). Under the circumstances, if you are missing some name, so take this name. Why it should not be taken?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithProfessorDurckheimGermanSpiritualWriterJune191974Germany_2" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="123" link="Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany" link_text="Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany">
<div class="heading">When he says, "Hallowed be Thy name," there must be the name. Therefore I said if you don't know the name, you take it from us. That is intelligence. Why should you say that there is no name. He says the "Hallowed be Thy name." There must be name but you do not know.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany|Room Conversation with Professor Durckheim German Spiritual Writer -- June 19, 1974, Germany]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: If you don't like to chant Kṛṣṇa you chant in your own way. Chant the name of God. If you know the name of God chant it. If you do not know then take it from me. (laughter) We are recommending to chant the holy name of God. If you know, you chant that name and if you don't know then take it from me. (German) (break) ...explained by Caitanya Mahāprabhu that God has many thousands of names or God has no name. No name means He has, He has got so many thousands of millions of names that you cannot say, "This is only God's name." This is one sense. But how God names are understood? The God names are understood by His action. Just like we say Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa means all-attractive. God is all-attractive. God is attractive for the Hindus, for the Muslim, for the Christians, for everyone. Therefore, being all-attractive, there's a Sanskrit word of all-attraction, Kṛṣṇa. This is the explanation of the attribute of God. Similarly, if you've got similar name which explains the attributes of God, that is also God's name. (German) I think Lord Jesus Christ said "God, hallowed be Thy name."</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: The Lord's Prayer: "Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be They name."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So He has name. You find out what is His name and chant it. And if you do not know, then take it from us. That is all. He has name. He has name. He's not without name. (German) (break)</p>
<p>Vedavyāsa: He says from the Old Testament that Jesus said, "Hallowed be Thy name," so he didn't say a particular name because, he says, God has actually no name because if we...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So how He can be no name? He says, "Hallowed be Thy name." He has name. Therefore he says like that.</p>
<p>Vedavyāsa: But there's no name in the Bible...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That doesn't mean... He might not have mentioned or you have not noted. But when he says, "Hallowed be Thy name," there must be the name. Therefore I said if you don't know the name, you take it from us. That is intelligence. Why should you say that there is no name. He says the "Hallowed be Thy name." There must be name but you do not know. (German) (break)</p>
<p>Vedavyāsa: He thinks that it's purposely done not to say the name of God, to...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Because there is name, you find out.</p>
<p>Vedavyāsa: He said that when it says, "Hallowed be Thy name," it's meant in this way: that there's no mention of a particular name to be respected...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. So that we say that God has no particular name. But according to His action His name is there. Just like Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa is not the name. Kṛṣṇa means all-attractiveness.</p>
<p>Professor Durckheim: Just as Buddha is not a name.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm. Because He's man of knowledge, therefore He's called Buddha.</p>
<p>Dr. P. J. Saher: The one who has reached...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Buddha. Buddha means one who has perfect knowledge.</p>
<p>Professor Durckheim: Buddha is not a name of somebody, yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Just like you say, "Hallowed be Thy name." President. President. Now the president has a name but you do not know. But the president must have a name. (German)</p>
<p>Dr. P. J. Saher: Has the name a special esoteric meaning? And is the technique of chanting the name, has this a special hidden purpose that the unenlightened...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, not hidden but open because Absolute is not different from His name. Therefore when you chant the name of the Absolute that means you associate with the Absolute. And as soon as you associate with the Absolute you become purified.</p>
<p>Dr. P. J. Saher: Like iron in fire.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkJune211974Germany_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="126" link="Morning Walk -- June 21, 1974, Germany" link_text="Morning Walk -- June 21, 1974, Germany">
<div class="heading">When Christ says, "Hallowed by Thy name," there is name. The name is Kṛṣṇa, already there. Therefore he did not require to say again. But the name is there, Kṛṣṇa is there, Viṣṇu is there, Mādhava is there, Govinda is there. There are thousands and thousands of names. So you pick up any one of them. And chant it. Why do you say there is no name?
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- June 21, 1974, Germany|Morning Walk -- June 21, 1974, Germany]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: ...and was talking about the name of God. So if we are chanting the name of God, what is your objection to accept the name of the Lord?</p>
<p>Professor Durckheim: What's the objection to?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Objection to accept the name which we are chanting?</p>
<p>Professor Durckheim: I don't know.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Was not that? What did he say?</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: Yes, that God had no name.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: God had no name, then Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>Haṁsadūta: His point was actually that God had no name, otherwise He would be a person. But I think you missed that point.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, no, I stressed that if God has no name, then why Christ said that "Hallowed be Thy name"?</p>
<p>Professor Durckheim: Well, he explained from his theologian point of view, when Moses was asking God, "Who is Thy name?" God didn't give a name but said only, "I am who I am." And then He explained if in the prayer one says, "Blessed be thy name," they use this in order to avoid a direct name. So just only say, "The name." But I don't understand the whole thing because the word God already is... What do you want more? And I believe that in the Christian religion, everybody just says God. They think the word God is the name and nothing more needed.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, no. That is not very good sense, that president, president of America. People say " 'President' is sufficient." Then why "Mr. Nixon"? They are all fools? No, they say, "Mr. Nixon," sometimes they say, and sometimes, "the President." Rather, they say more "Mr. Nixon" than "the President." Why?</p>
<p>Professor Durckheim: Sure. But I only can say...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So this argument, this argument is not very sensible argument.</p>
<p>Professor Durckheim: No, but that is the answer they would give. I don't believe the special name of God is for me the name, the word God. We are praying to God.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. No, no. Then name... When Christ says, "Hallowed by Thy name," there is name. The name is Kṛṣṇa, already there. Therefore he did not require to say again. But the name is there, Kṛṣṇa is there, Viṣṇu is there, Mādhava is there, Govinda is there. There are thousands and thousands of names. So you pick up any one of them. And chant it. Why do you say there is no name? Then we are chanting the name. Then what we are? We are all rascals and fools? If he says, "No, there is no name," Christ confirms there is name, and we are chanting the name. How you can say there is no name?</p>
<p>Professor Durckheim: Yes, quite. Well, I understand exactly what you mean very well.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There is name. It is confirmed. "Hallowed be Thy name." Now, we are chanting the name. What is your objection? You chant this name.</p>
<p>Professor Durckheim: I have no objection.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, you... I mean to say anyone.</p>
<p>Professor Durckheim: Yes, quite, quite.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And "Hallowed be Thy..." Those who are chanting the name of God, Kṛṣṇa, just see the result, whether they are improving or not than those who have no name. Come to the practical field. These boys and girls, before my coming in the western countries, they were all so many, I do not wish to... (laughing) Now by simply chanting the name, how much improvement they have done? So why there should be any objection to chant this name? And what is the loss there? Suppose anyone chants Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra. There is no loss, but the gain is practical. Why do they not, these theosophists, do not agree to chant this name, simple thing?</p>
<p>Professor Durckheim: I think they don't know it, and then...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is the fact. They don't know it. And still, they are theologicians. They are philosophers.</p>
<p>Professor Durckheim: Oh, yes. Oh, yes.</p>
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