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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG115LondonJuly151973_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="11" link="Lecture on BG 1.15 -- London, July 15, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 1.15 -- London, July 15, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 1.15 -- London, July 15, 1973|Lecture on BG 1.15 -- London, July 15, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If one, anyone says, "Oh, what God? We are creating our own food." Just like the Communist says. They are duṣkṛtina, rascals. But if anyone even goes to the church and temple for asking something to God, he is pious. At least, he has approached God. So one day when he will be advanced devotee, he will not ask any more. He knows that "Why shall I bother God? He is supplying everyone food, so why shall I ask Him food? My food is also there. Let me serve Him." That is his higher intelligence. That is higher intelligence, that "Why shall I ask food from God? God is supplying food to the cats, dogs, ants, elephants, and I want little food, he will not supply me? And especially when I engage myself in His service? Ordinary man pays to his servant, and I shall starve if I am engaged in the service of God?" This is intelligence. This is intelligence. "Why shall I bother God? If He likes, I will starve. That doesn't matter. But I must engage myself in the service of the Lord." This is intelligence. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). This intelligence comes after many, many births of endeavoring for self-realization. It is not easily comes.</p>
<p>So there is no question of scarcity for devotee. Just like this morning I was discussing with a gentleman. So a devotee is not in need of everything. Why he should be? He cannot be. Even one who is not devotee, if he is getting supplies from God, how is it that the devotee will not get? Just like the government. The government, although there is prisonhouse, the government supplies the food. Not that because they have gone to the prisonhouse, they are starving. Rather, those who are unemployed, they prefer prisonhouse, that without any service, they will get free food.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG136LondonJuly261973_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="22" link="Lecture on BG 1.36 -- London, July 26, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 1.36 -- London, July 26, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 1.36 -- London, July 26, 1973|Lecture on BG 1.36 -- London, July 26, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You have come to this human form of life from the lower status of life. Jalajā nava-lakṣāṇi sthavarā lakṣa-viṁśati kṛmayo rudra-saṅkhyakāḥ. Through so many status of life: the aquatics, the trees, the plants, the insects, the reptiles, the birds, the beasts. In this way... Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante. Bahūnāṁ sambhavante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). This human form of life is gotten, we have received, after many, many births. These people, they do not know. It is very rare. Therefore Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura sings, manuṣya janama pāiya, rādhā-kṛṣṇa nā bhajiyā, jāniyā suniyā viṣa khāinu. Hari hari viphale janama goiṅu. He is lamenting, "My dear Kṛṣṇa, I am so unfortunate. I got this human form of life. It was meant for developing Kṛṣṇa consciousness. But I have wasted my time otherwise. So how it is so? Jāniyā suniyā viṣa khāinu. Knowingly I have taken poison. Knowingly." Labdhvā sudurlabhaṁ idam bahu-sambhavante, manuṣyam artha-dam ([[Vanisource:SB 11.9.29|SB 11.9.29]]). These people, they do not know. Because they are asuras, they do not know what to do in this human form of life and what not to do.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG212HyderabadNovember171972_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="54" link="Lecture on BG 2.12 -- Hyderabad, November 17, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.12 -- Hyderabad, November 17, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.12 -- Hyderabad, November 17, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.12 -- Hyderabad, November 17, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Māyayā apahṛta... Asura. This is called āsura-bhāva. Āsura-bhāva means not to accept the supremacy of the Lord but think Him as one with all individual souls. But that is not the fact. That is poor fund of knowledge. Actually, when one becomes advanced in knowledge, as it is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). In due course of time, after many, many births, when he actually comes to the platform of knowledge, he can understand that "Vāsudeva is great and I am small, I am insignificant." Therefore he surrenders. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate. This is the sign of knowledge. When one surrenders to Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, it is to be understood that he has actually attained knowledge. Otherwise it is ignorance. To think of Kṛṣṇa and ordinary person as equal is not knowledge; it is illusion.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG213GermanyJune181974_3" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="65" link="Lecture on BG 2.13 -- Germany, June 18, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.13 -- Germany, June 18, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.13 -- Germany, June 18, 1974|Lecture on BG 2.13 -- Germany, June 18, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So to become dhīra means not to use this, I mean to say, very important, very useful body, human body, to pass as cats and dogs. That is very dangerous. It is a great loss. Prahlāda Mahārāja instructed this. Durlabhaṁ mānuṣaṁ janma. We have to (be) very, mean, intelligent to understand that "I have got this body. Must be after many, many births." That is the evolutionary theory. I can understand that this tree... That is also a living being, but it is standing there for thousands of years. Thousands of years, they are standing. So many Napoleons, so many Kaisers, so many Hitlers came and gone, but the tree is standing. That is a punishment. But that is also a living being. It is also growing. As your body is growing or changing, that body's also growing and changing, unless you pour water on the root of the tree, no eating, then it will die. Similarly, if you don't eat, you'll die. You'll die. There is no difference. It is the simply different methods of living. That's all. The cats and dogs living in a certain method.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG214MexicoFebruary141975_4" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="70" link="Lecture on BG 2.14 -- Mexico, February 14, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.14 -- Mexico, February 14, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.14 -- Mexico, February 14, 1975|Lecture on BG 2.14 -- Mexico, February 14, 1975]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hṛdayānanda: (translating) She's saying that you were saying how one can take birth as a dog even, so she's wondering how long does this go on. How many births does one take like this?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: As long as you are unable to go back to home, back to Godhead, you have to change this body, either dog or this or that or this. And there are 8,400,000 forms of body. You have to accept one of them. Now you make your decision whether you are ready to accept all these different types of body or you get original, spiritual body. In the spiritual body there is no more birth, death, old age and disease, and the material body continuously there should be birth, death, old age and disease. You can get that spiritual body simply by little cultivation in this human form of life, next life.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG216MexicoCityFebruary161975_5" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="75" link="Lecture on BG 2.16 -- Mexico City, February 16, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.16 -- Mexico City, February 16, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.16 -- Mexico City, February 16, 1975|Lecture on BG 2.16 -- Mexico City, February 16, 1975]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hṛdayānanda: (break) (translating) How many births do we have?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Births? There is no counting. Because unless you come to spiritual knowledge, the birth and death will continue. Yes?</p>
<p>Hṛdayānanda: (translating) Do we have to liberate ourselves from karma in order to achieve Kṛṣṇa?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. The karma is the binding. So long our mind is karma conscious, then we have to take another body. Therefore bhakti is defined, anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyaṁ jñāna-karmādy-anāvṛtam (Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu 1.1.11). Karma. People are very much enthusiastic to be engaged in karma, fruitive activities, and some of them are very eager to speculative knowledge. That is called jñāna. Therefore bhakti is jñāna-karmādy-anāvṛtam ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.167|CC Madhya 19.167]]).</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG222HyderabadNovember261972_6" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="85" link="Lecture on BG 2.22 -- Hyderabad, November 26, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.22 -- Hyderabad, November 26, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.22 -- Hyderabad, November 26, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.22 -- Hyderabad, November 26, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So anyone who has taken to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, he must be very intelligent man. Without being very intelligent man, one cannot take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is a... Caitanya-caritāmṛta says, kṛṣṇa yei bhaje sei baḍa catura. And Kṛṣṇa Himself says, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births of struggling, if one actually becomes jñānavān, then he surrenders unto Me." Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Janmādy asya yataḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.1|SB 1.1.1]]). These are the Vedic information.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG222HyderabadNovember261972_7" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="85" link="Lecture on BG 2.22 -- Hyderabad, November 26, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.22 -- Hyderabad, November 26, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.22 -- Hyderabad, November 26, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.22 -- Hyderabad, November 26, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So vāsudeva-parāyaṇa, vāsudeva-parā makhāḥ. These are the śāstric injunctions. So a person can take intelligence from studying Bhagavad-gītā. And Kṛṣṇa says, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). After many, many births... Because foolish rascals, they will have to transmigrate from one body to another, and there are 8,400,000's of different forms of body. And he has to go through the cycle of this birth and death. Bhūtvā bhūtvā pralīyate ([[Vanisource:BG 8.19 (1972)|BG 8.19]]). Take birth once, and becomes, defy God: "I don't care for God." And when Yamarāja comes, "All right. Whatever you like, you do." Mṛtyuḥ sarva-haraś cāham ([[Vanisource:BG 10.34 (1972)|BG 10.34]]). These atheist class of men, who defy the authority of Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, they'll meet Kṛṣṇa. When? At the time of death, when Kṛṣṇa will take him, take everything, his body, his society, his country, his family, his bank balance, his house. Everything will be taken away.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG224HyderabadNovember281972_8" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="88" link="Lecture on BG 2.24 -- Hyderabad, November 28, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.24 -- Hyderabad, November 28, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.24 -- Hyderabad, November 28, 1972|Lecture on BG 2.24 -- Hyderabad, November 28, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">At the present moment we have got different consciousness. That is māyā. This is mental concoction. I am thinking that "I'll be happy in this way." That is a mental concoction. You cannot be happy unless you surrender to Kṛṣṇa. That is sanātana-dharma. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). A person, after many, many births, he becomes really wise. Kāmādīnāṁ kati na katidhā pālitā durnideśās teṣāṁ jātā mayi na karuṇā na trapā nopaśāntiḥ. A brāhmaṇa, he prays to Kṛṣṇa: "My dear Lord, I have become the servant of my senses." Here everyone is servant of his senses. They want to enjoy the senses. Not enjoy—they want to serve the senses. My tongue says, "Please take me to such and such restaurant and give me such and such chicken juice." I immediately go. Not to enjoy, but to abide by the orders of my tongue. Therefore in the name of so-called enjoyment, we are all serving the senses. In Sanskrit it is called go-dāsa. Go means senses. So unless you become gosvāmī, your life is spoiled. Gosvāmī. You cannot be dictated by the senses.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG226LosAngelesDecember61968_9" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="91" link="Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Los Angeles, December 6, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Los Angeles, December 6, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Los Angeles, December 6, 1968|Lecture on BG 2.26 -- Los Angeles, December 6, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">These less intelligent class of men, they are searching after the Absolute Truth. That is also creditable. They are searching. But they have not come to the right point. The right point is here, as Kṛṣṇa says, that "After many, many births of research work, when he actually becomes a wise man, he surrenders unto Me." Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), that "Vāsudeva, Kṛṣṇa, is everything." That is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā. So ultimate knowledge means to understand the Supreme Person. What is the value if somebody has studied very elaborately the sunshine, but he has no access to enter into the sun planet or to understand the sun-god within? Is it a very enlightenment? Suppose the sunshine is all-pervading the universe. One has studied the sunshine very nicely. That man, and one has entered the sun planet and seen the sun-god, who is better? Who is better?</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG239LondonSeptember121973_10" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="101" link="Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973|Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Kṛṣṇa says, "After many, many births' endeavor..." Because everyone is trying to be happy. That is the struggle for existence. Why this struggle? To become happy. So sometimes they are karmīs, sometimes they are jñānīs, sometimes they are yogis, sometimes... As soon as they become bhakta, that is success. But so long he is not bhakta but otherwise, karmīs, jñānīs... Generally they are divided: karmīs, jñānīs, yogis... Therefore Rūpa Gosvāmī has said,</p>
:bhukti-mukti-spṛhā yāvat
:piśācī hṛdi vartate
:tāvad bhakti-sukhasyātra
:katham abhyudayo bhavet
<p>"So long in one's heart there is a piśācī..." Piśācī means, what is called, a witch. Yes. The witch is there, piśācī. What is that piśācī? Bhukti-mukti-siddhi. Bhukti means karmī, to, one who wants to enjoy this material world by working. That is called bhukti. Bhoktā. "I want to enjoy." Everyone is trying that.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG239LondonSeptember121973_11" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="101" link="Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973|Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So their struggle going on, competition. That is called bhukti. And another? Mukti. Mukti means those who are disappointed. Disappointed must be because nobody can be happy here with this karmī plan. That is not possible. So he will be disappointed. But disappointed when? After many, many births' struggle for existence, he'll be disappointed. That's a fact. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). He continues to be, become karmī and sometimes jñānī, sometimes yogi, to become happy, but he'll be confused. He'll be defeated. Nature is so strong. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante: "After many, many births of this struggle"—sometimes karmī, sometimes jñānī, sometimes yogi, sometimes something else—"when one comes to be really wise," jñānavān māṁ prapadyate, "he surrenders unto Me." How he surrenders? Blindly? No. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). He at that time understands that "Kṛṣṇa is everything."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG239LondonSeptember121973_12" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="101" link="Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973|Lecture on BG 2.39 -- London, September 12, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Blindly? No. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). He at that time understands that "Kṛṣṇa is everything." Therefore... That is a big mahātmā. Sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ: "It is very difficult to find out such a great person." Therefore intelligent person, if he sees... Dekhe śekhara(?). If I understand that "This person has surrendered to Kṛṣṇa after many, many births. If that is the ultimate goal, why not myself surrender immediately?" That is buddhi-yoga. "If one has to come to this point for perfection of life, why not my life be perfected in this life? Why I shall wait for many, many births?" And that is buddhi-yoga, intelligent yoga. Kṛṣṇa yei bhaje, sei baḍa catura. Unless one is exceptionally intelligent, he cannot take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. This is buddhi-yoga.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG24045LosAngelesDecember131968_13" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="103" link="Lecture on BG 2.40-45 -- Los Angeles, December 13, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.40-45 -- Los Angeles, December 13, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.40-45 -- Los Angeles, December 13, 1968|Lecture on BG 2.40-45 -- Los Angeles, December 13, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That we have tried in many lives. This is human form of life, and there were many other lives also. We have been in the water, aquatics; we have been in the vegetable kingdom; we have been animals; we have been worms. So many. This is the highest boon. Labdhvā su-durlabham idaṁ bahu-sambhavānte. After many, many births, millions of births, here is another form of body, human form of body, and especially in the civilized society, in well-to-do society. So just try to utilize it. How to utilize it to... The consciousness, the present consciousness, polluted consciousness should be rectified to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Tat-paratvena nirmalam ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.170|CC Madhya 19.170]]). Nirmalam means purified. If you can purify your consciousness in touch with Kṛṣṇa or God, that is your success. And if you can execute even certain percentage, that is your permanent asset. It will go with you. Next life also you'll get chance. This is also explained in the Bhagavad-gītā.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG24662LosAngelesDecember161968_14" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="106" link="Lecture on BG 2.46-62 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.46-62 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.46-62 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1968|Lecture on BG 2.46-62 -- Los Angeles, December 16, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">After many, many births when a person is actually wise, jñānavān, perfectly in knowledge... What is that symptom of perfect knowledge? Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti. Kṛṣṇa is everything. That is perfection of knowledge. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), prapadyate mām. If I find out somebody supreme, then it is my duty to surrender unto him. Yes. But as soon as I surrender, I become mahātmā, liberal, not miser. Miser is thinking on his own account, "How much I'll get? How much in my share?" And liberal means he has no more share, everything Kṛṣṇa's. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ. That sort of mahātmā, liberal person, is very rare. So Kṛṣṇa consciousness, a person in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, you cannot find many, it is not possible. Everyone is miser. He's always thinking, "How much share is mine? How much I can collect for my personal?" And Kṛṣṇa conscious person is simply trying: how much he is giving to Kṛṣṇa. This way. One this way, and one this way. This is miser and liberal.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG41MontrealAugust241968_15" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="131" link="Lecture on BG 4.1 -- Montreal, August 24, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.1 -- Montreal, August 24, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.1 -- Montreal, August 24, 1968|Lecture on BG 4.1 -- Montreal, August 24, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So he's free. So karma-yogī means he is free from the reaction of activities. He is karma-yogī. Similarly jñāna-yogī. Somebody is addicted to work very hard. Somebody is addicted to speculate philosophically. So for the speculator, Kṛṣṇa says, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). The persons who are addicted to speculative knowledge, after many, many births, he comes to the understanding: vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), "Vāsudeva, Kṛṣṇa, is everything." That means termination of knowledge. That is jñāna-yoga. If by his research work he tries to understand what is Kṛṣṇa by philosophy or by science or anything, by chemistry, by physics... That is recommended in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam:</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG412ColumbusMay91969_16" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="134" link="Lecture on BG 4.1-2 -- Columbus, May 9, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.1-2 -- Columbus, May 9, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.1-2 -- Columbus, May 9, 1969|Lecture on BG 4.1-2 -- Columbus, May 9, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Sun-god, Vivasvān, the sun planet, father of Manu... Manu's age we cannot calculate. About forty millions of years ago Manu was born, and his father, we do not know what is his age. So how it is possible, if Kṛṣṇa is ordinary man, He spoke to him? That is being cleared. So what He answered? "The Blessed Lord said, 'Many, many births both you and I have passed. I can remember all of them, but you cannot." That is the difference between God and man. That is the difference between God and man. We cannot remember. Even we cannot remember what I did at this time yesterday. That is our forgetfulness, is our nature.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG412ColumbusMay91969_17" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="134" link="Lecture on BG 4.1-2 -- Columbus, May 9, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.1-2 -- Columbus, May 9, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.1-2 -- Columbus, May 9, 1969|Lecture on BG 4.1-2 -- Columbus, May 9, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Forgetfulness means change of body. We are changing body every second, every minute. Therefore we are forgetting. And Kṛṣṇa does not forget. That means he does not change body. This is pure understanding of Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Kṛṣṇa said that "Many, many births both you and I have passed. I can remember all of them." Many, many. Thousands and thousands of times Kṛṣṇa appeared on this world, but He remembers everything. And I cannot remember about my childhood. So how can I become one with Kṛṣṇa? These Māyāvādī philosophers, they are declaring that "I am God." How you can? What is your qualification that you become God? God is not so cheap thing. People have taken it that "Everyone can become God. Every one of us God." This is another illusion, another māyā, because we do not know what is God. Here is God. He says that "Many, many millions of years ago I spoke to sun-god.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG416LosAngelesJanuary31969_18" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="135" link="Lecture on BG 4.1-6 -- Los Angeles, January 3, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.1-6 -- Los Angeles, January 3, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.1-6 -- Los Angeles, January 3, 1969|Lecture on BG 4.1-6 -- Los Angeles, January 3, 1969]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Madhudviṣa: "The Blessed Lord said: Many, many births both you and I have passed. I can remember all of them but you cannot, O subduer of the enemy."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. The difference is that Arjuna, being constant companion of Kṛṣṇa, he was also present when Kṛṣṇa said to sun-god, but he has forgotten. But Kṛṣṇa, being the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he has not forgotten. Just like a, my child. I say, "My dear child, twenty-five years ago you fell down and you were hurt in this way." Although the child has forgotten, but the incident is fact. The father knows. Similarly, Kṛṣṇa, the supreme father, He knows everything, and Arjuna might have forgotten. Because one has forgotten, one cannot give details. Just like we had many, many births before this form of body, but we have forgotten that. That does not mean that it did not take place. We had to pass through millions and millions of births. The other day I was explaining. Jalajā nava-lakṣāṇi sthāvarā lakṣa-viṁśati. Simply we had to live in the water to pass through 900,000 species of life.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG436NewYorkJuly181966_19" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="138" link="Lecture on BG 4.3-6 -- New York, July 18, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.3-6 -- New York, July 18, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.3-6 -- New York, July 18, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.3-6 -- New York, July 18, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You have got so many enjoyments. Why you are thinking like that?" So prakṣepātmikā, vikṣepātmikā. This is going on. So forgetfulness. So that is the difference between God and man.</p>
<p>Here, in the Bhagavad-gītā, it is clearly said that "My dear Arjuna, you also had many, many births. You were, you are also, because you are constant companion of Me, so whenever I take incarnation in the, any planet, so you also, you are also with Me. So when I took incarnation in the sun planet and I spoke this Bhagavad-gītā to sun-god, you were also present with Me, but unfortunately, you have forgotten. Because you are a living being and I am the Supreme Lord." That is the difference between the Supreme Lord... I cannot remember. Forgetfulness is my nature.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG44BombayMarch241974_20" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="139" link="Lecture on BG 4.4 -- Bombay, March 24, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.4 -- Bombay, March 24, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.4 -- Bombay, March 24, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.4 -- Bombay, March 24, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">"Tomorrow at six o'clock the sun will appear." Similarly, the śāstras say, "At such and such time Kṛṣṇa will come." One who knows. One who does not know, how he'll say? But there are indications, "In Brahmā's one day Kṛṣṇa appears on the Dvāpara-yuga." So therefore Kṛṣṇa says, bahūni me janmāni. Bahūni me vyatītāni janmāni tava cārjuna. "You have also passed many births, and I have also many times appeared, and because we are friends, we appear together. That is also fact.</p>
<p>But the difficulty is tāny ahaṁ veda. I know all those things, when I appeared last, what did I do, and when I shall again appear. These things known to Me. Tāny ahaṁ veda sarvāṇi. Sarvāṇi, past, present, and future, I know everything. Na tvaṁ vettha parantapa. Although you are a great warrior, parantapa..." Parantapa means one who can get, one who can give trouble to the enemies. Paraṁ tapati. "So although you are a very great warrior, a great personality, but you cannot know this. You cannot know this. That is the difference between you and Me."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG45MontrealJune101968_21" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="140" link="Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968|Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">"Millions and billions of years ago I told this truth to sun-god," Kṛṣṇa, just to clear, Arjuna, just to clear Kṛṣṇa's position, he is putting this question, that "Kṛṣṇa, both You and me, we were born some few years ago. How I can believe that You told this truth to sun-god?" In answer to that question, Kṛṣṇa says that bahūni me vyatītāni janmāni tava cārjuna. "Both you and Me had many, many births, or appearance and disappearance, in the past. I remember all those things as it is, without any mistake. But you do not know." Eka evāham eko 'pi san bahudhā yo 'vabhati ity ādi śruty-uktāni nitya-siddhāni bahūni rūpāni vaiduryavad-ātmani dadhanaḥ pura rūpantareṇa taṁ pratyupadiṣṭavān iti bhavenaha bhagavān.(?)</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG45BombayMarch251974_22" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="141" link="Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Bombay, March 25, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Bombay, March 25, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Bombay, March 25, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Bombay, March 25, 1974]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Pradyumna: Translation: "The Blessed Lord said: Many, many births both you and I have passed. I can remember all of them, but you cannot, O subduer of the enemy."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Śrī bhagavān uvāca. We have already explained the meaning of bhagavān in connection with the first verse. Still, again, we are repeating, bhagavān... Bhaga means opulence, and when the Sanskrit affix is there, vat-pratyaya, one who possesses opulence, he's called bhagavān. So it is described by Parāśara Muni that</p>
:aiśvaryasya samagrasya
:vīryasya yaśasaḥ śriyaḥ
:jñāna-vairāgyayoś caiva
:ṣaṇṇāṁ bhagam itīṅganā
:(Viṣṇu Purāṇa 6.5.47)
<p>"Bhagavān means who possesses these six opulences in full: all riches, all strength, all influence, all wisdom, all beauty, all renunciation." So, it has been analyzed how we possess all these opulences, and it has been found by the great sages that Kṛṣṇa is the possessor of all opulences—all beauty, all wisdom. Īśvaraḥ paramaḥ kṛṣṇaḥ (Bs. 5.1). The supreme possessor is Kṛṣṇa. Sac-cid-ānanda-vigrahaḥ, anādir ādir govindaḥ sarva-kāraṇa-kāraṇam (Bs. 5.1).</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG46BombayMarch261974_23" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="142" link="Lecture on BG 4.6 -- Bombay, March 26, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.6 -- Bombay, March 26, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.6 -- Bombay, March 26, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.6 -- Bombay, March 26, 1974]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes That is the difference between Kṛṣṇa and ourselves. We do not remember what we have done a few hours ago. What to speak of millions of years ago. But we take our birth because we are eternal. We have taken many births. That is the difference between Kṛṣṇa's birth and our birth. Then?</p>
<p>Pradyumna: "If someone is asked what he did exactly at the same time one day earlier, it would be very difficult for a common man to answer immediately. He would surely have to dredge his memory to recall what he was doing exactly at the same time one day before. And yet, men often dare claim to be God, or Kṛṣṇa. One should not be misled by such meaningless claims."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG4710LosAngelesJanuary61969_24" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="147" link="Lecture on BG 4.7-10 -- Los Angeles, January 6, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.7-10 -- Los Angeles, January 6, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.7-10 -- Los Angeles, January 6, 1969|Lecture on BG 4.7-10 -- Los Angeles, January 6, 1969]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Purport: "The Lord's descent from His transcendental abode is already explained in the sixth verse. One who can understand the truth of the appearance of the Personality of Godhead is already liberated from material bondage, and therefore he returns to the kingdom of God immediately after quitting his present material body. Such liberation of the living entity from material bondage is not at all easy. The impersonalist and the yogi attain liberation only after much trouble and many, many births. Even then their liberation is..."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Try to understand bondage, what is bondage. We are thinking we are very, we are free. We are declaring that "We belong to the free nation" or "free community," or everyone is seeking after freedom. But nobody is free. Nobody is free. Everyone is under the stringent laws of nature. So bondage means to remain under the condition of material laws. That is called bondage.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG4710LosAngelesJanuary61969_25" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="147" link="Lecture on BG 4.7-10 -- Los Angeles, January 6, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.7-10 -- Los Angeles, January 6, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.7-10 -- Los Angeles, January 6, 1969|Lecture on BG 4.7-10 -- Los Angeles, January 6, 1969]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "The impersonalists and the yogis attain liberation only after much trouble and many, many births. Even then the liberation they achieve, merging into the impersonal Brahmajyoti effulgence of the Lord, is only partial, and there is a risk of returning again to this material world. But the devotee, simply by understanding the transcendental nature of the body and the activities of the Lord, attains the abode of the Lord after ending this body and does not run the risk of returning again to this material world. In the Brahma-saṁhitā it is stated that the Lord has many, many forms and incarnations. Advaitam acyutam anādim ananta-rūpam (Bs. 5.33). Although there are many transcendental forms of the Lord, they are still one and the same Supreme Personality of Godhead. One has to understand this fact with conviction although it is incomprehensible to mundane scholars and empiric philosophers. As stated in the Vedas: eko devo nitya-līlānurakto bhakta-vyāpī hṛdy antarātmā: 'The one Supreme Personality of Godhead is eternally engaged in many many transcendental forms in relationships with His unalloyed devotees.' This Vedic version is confirmed in this verse of the Bhagavad-gītā personally by the Lord. Anyone who accepts this truth on the strength of the authority of the Vedas and of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and who does not waste time in philosophical speculation obtains the highest perfectional stage of liberation."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. This is very important point. The process of understanding knowledge. The modern tendency is to understand by dint of one's sense perception. That is not possible. There are many things, especially spiritual matters; nobody can understand by simple speculation. So one has to accept the authority. So according to Vedic culture, the Vedas are the authority. If there is some information in the Vedas, you accept it, authority. That is very nice system.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG48MontrealJune141968_26" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="148" link="Lecture on BG 4.8 -- Montreal, June 14, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.8 -- Montreal, June 14, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.8 -- Montreal, June 14, 1968|Lecture on BG 4.8 -- Montreal, June 14, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). But he's now mentally speculating to find out the Absolute Truth, but when his knowledge will be mature, bahūnāṁ janmanām, after many, many births of speculation, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate, when he is actually in knowledge, he surrenders unto the Supreme Lord, vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "Oh, Lord Kṛṣṇa, Vāsudeva, Vāsudeva is everything." Sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ: "Such kind of great soul is very rare."</p>
<p>But fortunately we have got these instructions of Bhagavad-gītā, and the teacher is Lord Caitanya. If we follow these principles and try to understand it with all our knowledge, all our logic and argument, then our life is successful. Here is an opportunity the movement of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG48MontrealJune141968_27" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="148" link="Lecture on BG 4.8 -- Montreal, June 14, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.8 -- Montreal, June 14, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.8 -- Montreal, June 14, 1968|Lecture on BG 4.8 -- Montreal, June 14, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Or where is God. That is perfection. So long one does not understand what is God or the Absolute Truth by whom everything is being emanated, the knowledge is imperfect. Knowledge is not finished. Therefore Bhagavad-gītā says, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births of cultivating knowledge, one comes to the understanding of accepting God is the prime source, fountainhead of everything." That is perfection of knowledge.</p>
<p>At the present moment people are denying the existence of God, or they are thinking that God is dead. That means imperfection of knowledge. They have to still make progress to the perfectional point. And that test is to understand, "Here is God, and He is the fountainhead of everything." That perfection of knowledge you will have simply by reading... Any scripture you can read. The same conception is there.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG411GenevaJune11974_28" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="160" link="Lecture on BG 4.11 -- Geneva, June 1, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.11 -- Geneva, June 1, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.11 -- Geneva, June 1, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.11 -- Geneva, June 1, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">It so happens because they cannot fully realize the Absolute Truth as the Supreme Person, they again come to these material persons.</p>
<p>Therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā you will find, Kṛṣṇa says, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), which means, "After many, many births, the jñānīs, after speculative knowledge, when actually they come to the platform of knowledge, they surrender unto Me or they understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead."</p>
<p>The next line is, vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). One who can understand Kṛṣṇa, whose another name is Vāsudeva, so He is everything, He is the origin of everything, one who can understand, He is supposed to be mahātmā, the liberated soul, or the great soul. Mahātmā. Mahā means great. Ātmā means soul. But sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ. It is very difficult to find out such mahātmā.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG41112NewYorkJuly281966_29" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="162" link="Lecture on BG 4.11-12 -- New York, July 28, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.11-12 -- New York, July 28, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.11-12 -- New York, July 28, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.11-12 -- New York, July 28, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We are going to that path gradually, going to that path gradually, but in the middle, we are hampered because there is want of sufficient knowledge. When sufficient knowledge is there... You'll find in the Bhagavad-gītā. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births, when one is developed in his real consciousness, he can understand." What? What he understands? Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā su-durlabhaḥ: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "That Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme. He is all in all, so I have to surrender unto Him." That is the perfection of knowledge. This stage one has to reach. Never mind whether he is following a principle of philosophical research, whether he is following the yogic principle, or whether he is following philanthropic work or political leadership or... So many things are going on, but the whole thing is targeted toward Kṛṣṇa. How it is targeted? That is explained.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG41112NewYorkJuly281966_30" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="162" link="Lecture on BG 4.11-12 -- New York, July 28, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.11-12 -- New York, July 28, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.11-12 -- New York, July 28, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.11-12 -- New York, July 28, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">He takes at once shelter of the Supreme Lord. Jñānavān. Jñānavān, who has understood the problems of life. Jñānavān. Jñāna means who has understood the spiritual nature of the living being, he is called jñānavān. So jñānavān. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). One who has become really learned, even after many, many births, and knows that "I am not this body; I am spirit. My nature, my advancement, my happiness, is depending on the advancement of my spiritual life," such a person only can take shelter of Kṛṣṇa and perfectly.</p>
<p>Others, of course, as it is said, that those who are distressed or those who are in need of some wealth, they also go to worship Kṛṣṇa, but for some temporary relief. But the benefit is that even such persons go to Kṛṣṇa worship for some temporary relief, but the benefit is that because he has gone to Kṛṣṇa, therefore, at the ultimate end, he will be devoid of all these material desires and will absolutely take shelter of Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG41118LosAngelesJanuary81969_31" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="163" link="Lecture on BG 4.11-18 -- Los Angeles, January 8, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.11-18 -- Los Angeles, January 8, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.11-18 -- Los Angeles, January 8, 1969|Lecture on BG 4.11-18 -- Los Angeles, January 8, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore Kṛṣṇa says that "My way is followed by everyone." The impersonalists, they are also aiming to the same goal and the yogis or the localized realizer they are also aiming the same goal. But the devotees, they have reached the same goal. That is the difference. The impersonalists or the yogis, they could not reach the final goal. But the devotees, they have reached the final goal. Therefore you will find in the Bhagavad-gītā the Lord says, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). After many, many births of transcendental realization one surrenders unto Me accepting vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), Vāsudeva, Kṛṣṇa, is everything. Sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ. That sort of mahātmā, great soul, is very rare. Go on.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG41314NewYorkAugust11966_32" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="170" link="Lecture on BG 4.13-14 -- New York, August 1, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.13-14 -- New York, August 1, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.13-14 -- New York, August 1, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.13-14 -- New York, August 1, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The purport is that, that "Here is a thing, these boys, these boys who are playing with Kṛṣṇa, that for many, many lives they undergone penances to have Kṛṣṇa as their playmate. Now they are enjoying life." So the playmates of Kṛṣṇa, they are not ordinary persons. They underwent many, many births' tapasya, or penances. Just like one has to seek the favor of the Supreme Lord by penances, by tapasya, so they desired like that, and Kṛṣṇa has accepted, "All right. Come on. Let us play." And what is that play? Kṛṣṇa is playing with the boys just like boys play. They say, sometimes make some one body's defeated. So when the, he became, he has to carry the other boy on his shoulder, so many manufactured playing things.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG414BombayApril31974_33" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="171" link="Lecture on BG 4.14 -- Bombay, April 3, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.14 -- Bombay, April 3, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.14 -- Bombay, April 3, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.14 -- Bombay, April 3, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">These are recent manufacture. Actually, Vedic instruction is to divide the whole human society into four varṇas and four āśramas. That is Vedic dharma, sanātana-dharma. It is called sanātana-dharma. A living entity has got the chance of getting this human... Labdhvā sudurlabhaṁ bahu-sambhavānte ([[Vanisource:SB 11.9.29|SB 11.9.29]]). Bahu-sambhavānte means after many, many births. This present rascal civilization does not know that how with great difficulty we have come to this human form of life after so many evolutions.</p>
<p>The Darwin's theory of evolution, there is some idea, but it is not clear, not scientific. They are trying to prove that (it is) scientific. That is not scientific. But the evolution theory is there, 8,400,000 species of life. Jalajā nava-lakṣāṇi sthāvarā lakṣa-viṁśati, like that. Bhramadbhiḥ. We are rotating in this way.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG415BombayApril41974_34" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="174" link="Lecture on BG 4.15 -- Bombay, April 4, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.15 -- Bombay, April 4, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.15 -- Bombay, April 4, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.15 -- Bombay, April 4, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">"I am the knower, supreme knower of the Vedānta." Vedānta-vit and vedānta-kṛt: "I am the compiler of the Vedānta." So wherefrom you'll learn Vedānta? From Kṛṣṇa. Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 15.15 (1972)|BG 15.15]]). This is the formula. So one who knows Kṛṣṇa, he is vedānta-vit, because he has learned the Vedānta philosophy. What is that Vedānta philosophy? Veda means knowledge, and anta means the end. So Vedānta means the end, the end of all knowledge.</p>
<p>What is that end of all knowledge? Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births, when actually one is wise, Vedantist," māṁ prapadyate, "he surrenders unto Me." Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā su-durlabhaḥ: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "Such kind of mahātmā is very, very rare, one who knows," vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti, "Vāsudeva, Kṛṣṇa, is the origin of everything."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG416BombayApril51974_35" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="175" link="Lecture on BG 4.16 -- Bombay, April 5, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.16 -- Bombay, April 5, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.16 -- Bombay, April 5, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.16 -- Bombay, April 5, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore this cātur-varṇya or this karma-kāṇḍa, everything is meant for the whole human society, if not for the animal society. Of course, animal society they cannot follow. That is their degraded position. Labdhvā su-durlabhaṁ bahu-sambhavānte. Therefore śāstra says that "This human form of life is gotten after many, many births," labdhvā su-durlabham. Su-durlabham. Durlabham means very rare to be obtained, and again addition, su, "very, very."</p>
<p>So we should not waste our this human form of life whimsically. It is a great loss. It is a great loss. But people are not educated how much important this human form of life. (aside:) Don't move like that.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG41925LosAngelesJanuary91969_36" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="182" link="Lecture on BG 4.19-25 -- Los Angeles, January 9, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.19-25 -- Los Angeles, January 9, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.19-25 -- Los Angeles, January 9, 1969|Lecture on BG 4.19-25 -- Los Angeles, January 9, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is also stated. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "One who is perfectly intelligent, after many many births of culturing knowledge he comes to Me and surrenders." Yes. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "O Kṛṣṇa, you are everything." That is the highest intelligence. So Caitanya-caritāmṛta says kṛṣṇa ye bhaje sei vara catura: "Anyone who is engaged in Kṛṣṇa consciousness is very intelligent man." Very intelligent man. Kṛṣṇa ye bhaje sei vara catura. Catura means intelligent. Go on.</p>
<p>Devotee: "Whereas others who stick to the impersonal feature of the Absolute Truth and regard the forms of the demigods as temporary sacrifice their individual selves in the supreme fire and thus end their individual existences by merging into the existence of the Supreme.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG42434NewYorkAugust121966_37" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="190" link="Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So this struggle for existence is going on because they do not know that their self-interest lies in the understanding of his relationship with the Supreme Lord. And that is also confirmed in the Bhagavad-gītā, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births, when a man is actually in full knowledge, he surrenders unto Me," the Lord says. That is the ultimate interest. That is the ultimate knowledge, that one should understand his relationship with Viṣṇu and surrender there. That is... Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births," jñānavān, "who has actually acquired knowledge, he surrenders unto Me," the Lord says.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG42434NewYorkAugust121966_38" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="190" link="Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So we, if we are intelligent enough, then we should consider that "If I have to do this job after many, many births—I am getting myself to very much experience—and Lord Kṛṣṇa says that this is the last point of knowledge, why not accept it immediately? Why not accept immediately? If I have to come to Kṛṣṇa at the last stage of mature knowledge and I surrender unto Him, then why should I wait for many births? Why should I wait for many births? Let me surrender unto me (Him)."</p>
<p>Just yesterday night one of our friends inquired that "How long it takes time to have complete Kṛṣṇa consciousness?" So I replied that the Kṛṣṇa consciousness can take place in a second, and it may not take in thousands of years. Because the point is here, that after all, we have to come to this point, that surrender unto Kṛṣṇa, vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]])—Vāsudeva means Kṛṣṇa—"Kṛṣṇa is everything, and therefore I surrender unto Him." Sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG42434NewYorkAugust121966_39" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="190" link="Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.24-34 -- New York, August 12, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">No. There is no question of understanding. Suppose this process... Just like Kṛṣṇa says, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births of culture of knowledge, the person who has come to the highest point of knowledge, he surrenders unto Me." So similarly, if any person without any knowledge, if he surrenders only to Kṛṣṇa, he acquires all the knowledge. He has surpassed all stages. He has surpassed all stages. And that is also confirmed. If you say, "How he has gone, surpassed all stage?"</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG427BombayApril161974_40" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="193" link="Lecture on BG 4.27 -- Bombay, April 16, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.27 -- Bombay, April 16, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.27 -- Bombay, April 16, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.27 -- Bombay, April 16, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So jñāna-dīpite, when you actually come to the sense of your knowledge, then you come to this conclusion that "What I am? What is my mastership? I am simply serving the senses, different senses." Even in the outward... (break) ...what is the taste of that knowledge. That is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā. What is that? Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births, spoiling the life and spoiling the time by satisfying the senses..." Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante. So long you will go on satisfying these senses, either your senses—that is centralized senses—or expanded senses, the senses of your family, senses of your society, senses of your country, nationality, these are all sense gratification process, simply extending. It begins centralized, my senses, then my son's senses, then my grandson's senses, then my country's senses, then... It is sense gratification, that's all. There is no other business.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG434NewYorkAugust141966_41" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="195" link="Lecture on BG 4.34 -- New York, August 14, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.34 -- New York, August 14, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.34 -- New York, August 14, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.34 -- New York, August 14, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Suppose if you have gone to the eighty-fifth story, that is also progress from the downwards. That's all right.</p>
<p>But the highest, highest perfection of knowledge is, so far we study from the Bhagavad-gītā, it is said, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante. Bahūnām means after many, many births of culturing knowledge, when he comes to the real knowledge, real, perfect knowledge. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān. Not the fools, but jñānavān. He especially mentions jñānavān. Jñānavān māṁ prapadyate. Jñānavān the sign is that jñānavān surrenders unto the Supreme Lord Kṛṣṇa. That is the highest stage of knowledge.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG434NewYorkAugust141966_42" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="195" link="Lecture on BG 4.34 -- New York, August 14, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.34 -- New York, August 14, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.34 -- New York, August 14, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.34 -- New York, August 14, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So if we actually want to reach that point of perfectional knowledge where we can fully surrender... Now, the intelligent person... According to my opinion... I have several times discussed this point, that if it is a point that after many, many births, when I am fully perfect in knowledge, I have to surrender to Kṛṣṇa, then why not immediately surrender to Him? Why shall I wait for many, many births? That is very intelligent proposal. If that is the end of perfection, then why not accept the perfection immediately? But people are doubtful.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG43438NewYorkAugust171966_43" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="197" link="Lecture on BG 4.34-38 -- New York, August 17, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.34-38 -- New York, August 17, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.34-38 -- New York, August 17, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.34-38 -- New York, August 17, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore knowledge, we must seek knowledge. And the perfection of knowledge, as we have several times explained in this meeting, the perfection of knowledge is to understand Kṛṣṇa. That's all. As in the Seventh Chapter you'll find, that, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). Now, after culturing many, many births knowledge, one comes to Kṛṣṇa and he understands, vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). Vāsudeva, Kṛṣṇa is everything, all causes of causes. He's the cause of all causes. Always remember. When I speak of Kṛṣṇa, He's God. God. God is the cause of all causes.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG43953NewYorkAugust241966_44" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="201" link="Lecture on BG 4.39-5.3 -- New York, August 24, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.39-5.3 -- New York, August 24, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.39-5.3 -- New York, August 24, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.39-5.3 -- New York, August 24, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Just like the roaring of a lion drives away the big elephants from the forest—whenever there is roaring of a lion, even the big animals like elephants, they go away—similarly, this vibration of transcendental sound will cleanse the elephants of dirtiness in the mind. We have accumulated dirtiness in our mind after many, many births, and that is a huge garbage. So this transcendental sound is just like the roaring of lion, and it will clear all the garbages accumulated.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG52229NewYorkAugust311966_45" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="206" link="Lecture on BG 5.22-29 -- New York, August 31, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 5.22-29 -- New York, August 31, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 5.22-29 -- New York, August 31, 1966|Lecture on BG 5.22-29 -- New York, August 31, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Real happiness is in spiritual life.</p>
<p>We have to attain that spiritual life and just a man tolerates so many things for being cured, similarly we have to practice tolerance. Then there will be urges, certainly, because we are practiced to these sense urges for so many births in so many evolutionary process. Now in this human form of life we have to consider that "I am not this body; I am spirit soul." So I have to search out the happiness of the spirit soul, and for that, I have to train myself under superior guidance, as Arjuna has put himself under the guidance of Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG614NewYorkSeptember21966_46" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="209" link="Lecture on BG 6.1-4 -- New York, September 2, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 6.1-4 -- New York, September 2, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 6.1-4 -- New York, September 2, 1966|Lecture on BG 6.1-4 -- New York, September 2, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">"It is my duty to become Kṛṣṇa conscious and to serve the cause of Kṛṣṇa. Oh, that is my duty. That is my real duty." When we come to this knowledge, then we become mahātmā, or the great soul. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ. You'll find in the Bhagavad-gītā. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). "After many, many births, when a person, when a soul, is perfectly elevated to the platform of real knowledge, transcendental knowledge," then what does he do? "He surrenders unto Me," Kṛṣṇa says. "He surrenders unto Me." Vās... Why? Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), "You are everything, Vāsudeva." Vāsudeva means Kṛṣṇa. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. But Kṛṣṇa says, "Such...," sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ, "such great soul is very scarce, rarely found." But any intelligent person, if he understands this philosophy, that "My ultimate goal of life is to surrender unto Kṛṣṇa, why not surrender immediately? Why shall I wait?" Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante. "Why shall I wait for so many births?"</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG63545LosAngelesFebruary201969_47" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="220" link="Lecture on BG 6.35-45 -- Los Angeles, February 20, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 6.35-45 -- Los Angeles, February 20, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 6.35-45 -- Los Angeles, February 20, 1969|Lecture on BG 6.35-45 -- Los Angeles, February 20, 1969]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee: "When the yogi engages himself with sincere endeavor in making further progress being washed of all contaminations, then ultimately, after many, many births of practice, he attains the supreme goal."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So it is a question of practice. Just like a child born, he does not know how to smoke, how to drink, but by association he becomes a drunkard, a smoker, intoxication. By association. So it is a question of association only. Saṅgāt sañjāyate kāmaḥ. If the association is good, our carrier is being spoiled because we are not keeping good association. So this is explained here, that: "But when the yogi engages himself with sincere endeavor in making further progress." Just like in business also, there are so many association, corporation.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG63545LosAngelesFebruary201969_48" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="220" link="Lecture on BG 6.35-45 -- Los Angeles, February 20, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 6.35-45 -- Los Angeles, February 20, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 6.35-45 -- Los Angeles, February 20, 1969|Lecture on BG 6.35-45 -- Los Angeles, February 20, 1969]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee: "Kṛṣṇa consciousness is the perfect stage, being freed of all contaminations. This is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gītā.  After many, many births in execution of pious activities when one is completely freed from all contaminations and from all illusory dualities, one then becomes engaged in the transcendental loving service of the Lord."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Yeṣāṁ tv anta-gataṁ pāpam. The exact verse in the Bhagavad-gītā is yeṣāṁ tv anta-gataṁ pāpam. Pāpam means sin. One who has completely ended sinful activities, janānāṁ puṇya-karmaṇām: persons who have simply executed pious activities. Such person becomes fixed up in Kṛṣṇa consciousness without any dualities. Because our mind is flickering, so dualities will always come.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG64042NewYorkSeptember161966_49" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="221" link="Lecture on BG 6.40-42 -- New York, September 16, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 6.40-42 -- New York, September 16, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 6.40-42 -- New York, September 16, 1966|Lecture on BG 6.40-42 -- New York, September 16, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">After two stages. Impersonal conception of the Supreme or localized realization of the Supreme. They have again to come to this consciousness, Kṛṣṇa consciousness, after many, many births. So therefore it is better if they're intelligent enough, when you get the information that ultimately you have to come to this point, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). Vāsudeva means Kṛṣṇa. Sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ. That sort of great soul is very rare. So why not become a rare great soul immediately and just become in Kṛṣṇa consciousness and make your life successful? Thank you very much. Any questions? Yes?</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG71GainesvilleJuly291971UniversityofFlorida_50" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="231" link="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Gainesville, July 29, 1971 University of Florida" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Gainesville, July 29, 1971 University of Florida">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Gainesville, July 29, 1971 University of Florida|Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Gainesville, July 29, 1971 University of Florida]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Vedas means knowledge. And what is the... Vedānta means the ultimate end of knowledge. What is that end of knowledge? That is Kṛṣṇa. Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 15.15 (1972)|BG 15.15]]). By all the Vedas, the ultimate conclusion should be Kṛṣṇa. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). This conclusion comes after many, many births. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān. After culturing knowledge for many, many births, when actually one becomes wise, then bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate, he surrenders unto Kṛṣṇa. How he surrenders? Because he knows, vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) Vāsudeva, Kṛṣṇa is everything. Whatever we see, it is simply a manifestation of the energy of Vāsudeva. One must be convinced on this fact, and then he becomes a devotee. Prapadyate. Kṛṣṇa therefore advises that you understand or not understand, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja: ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66 (1972)|BG 18.66]]) "Simply surrender unto Me."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG71HyderabadApril271974_51" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="240" link="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Hyderabad, April 27, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Hyderabad, April 27, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Hyderabad, April 27, 1974|Lecture on BG 7.1 -- Hyderabad, April 27, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In the human society, it is a prerogative to know God. In the animal society, there is no such question. The human society is meant for understanding what is God. That is the privilege of human being. We come to this form of human being after many, many births. There are 8,400,000 species of life, beginning from water. Then on the land... In the water there are nine lakhs species of life, different aquatics. So in the beginning of creation the whole planet was merged into water. That is also scientifically... Modern science. And from śāstras also, we understand, pralaya-payodhi-jale dhṛtavān asi vedam, keśava dhṛta-mīna-śarīra jaya jagadīśa hare **. So in the beginning there was water. So there must be living entities because living entities are everywhere—in the water, in the air, on the land, within the land, within the water, everywhere. Therefore the living entities are called sarva-ga. Sarva-ga means the living entity can go anywhere.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG71LondonMarch91975_52" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="242" link="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- London, March 9, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1 -- London, March 9, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.1 -- London, March 9, 1975|Lecture on BG 7.1 -- London, March 9, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">He is always with His consort, Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī. And He is playing flute and Rādhārāṇī is dancing. This is ānanda. So where is our ānanda? We imitate Kṛṣṇa, but we are not able to enjoy because we are in this material body. In this way from Bhagavad-gītā, if we study Bhagavad-gītā nicely, then we can understand what is God. Otherwise you can go on speculating for millions of years or for many, many births, you cannot understand what is God. There are so many societies, theological societies, this, theosophical societies, but what do they know about God? They do not know, neither can know. It is not possible, because they are thinking with their imperfect senses? How you can have the idea of the perfect, of the unlimited, by your imperfect speculation? That is not possible.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG713LondonAugust41971_53" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="251" link="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971|Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That's all. Similarly, if you simply understand Kṛṣṇa, then you'll see the whole arithmetic, whole world, whole universe is full of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That's all. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā you'll see that bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). When actually one becomes wise, full of wisdom, jñānavān... How? After many, many births of speculation and calculation, when he actually becomes... Just like the same example. A very expert mathematician, he sees the whole mathematic, arithmetic is full of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6... That's all. So actually when one is in knowledge, then he can see Kṛṣṇa everywhere. Not that... Those who are in the lowest stage, they think that Kṛṣṇa is here in the temple and not anywhere else. That is the lowest stage of understanding Kṛṣṇa. But the highest stage of understanding Kṛṣṇa: the Kṛṣṇa conscious person sees everywhere Kṛṣṇa, even within the atom. Aṇḍāntara-stha-paramāṇu-cayāntara-stham (Bs. 5.35).</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG713LondonAugust41971_54" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="251" link="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971|Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">"As this body is finished, everything is finished. So let me enjoy." This is the misconception, or illusion, or māyā. Body's not finished. You are creating another body. Karmaṇā daiva-netreṇa ([[Vanisource:SB 3.31.1|SB 3.31.1]]). And you'll get another body, karmaṇā, according to your karma. Therefore the intelligent person, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante... ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). That intelligence comes after many, many births. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān. One who is actually wise. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate. Kṛṣṇa says, "He surrenders unto Me." Why? How he...? Because he's wise. How he's wise? Because he knows, vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). He understands that Kṛṣṇa is everything. Not that he's falsely surrendering. He knows that Kṛṣṇa is everything. Ahaṁ sarvasya prabhavo mattaḥ sarvaṁ pravartate ([[Vanisource:BG 10.8 (1972)|BG 10.8]]). Kṛṣṇa says also that "I am the root." Bījo 'haṁ sarva-bhūtānām (Bg 7.10). "I am the root, I am the seed, of everything." Therefore, when one becomes actually wise, full of knowledge, then he surrenders to Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG713LondonAugust41971_55" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="251" link="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971|Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is intelligence. Kṛṣṇa says that "In this way you can stop your birth and death process." So why don't you do that? Why you are after so many things? If you simply try to understand Kṛṣṇa and if you perfectly understand, then immediately you can stop your birth and death process. You are eternal. That is intelligence. That is intelligence. Just like Kṛṣṇa says, "After many, many births, one comes to this conclusion that Kṛṣṇa is everything." So why shall I wait for another many births? Why not accept Kṛṣṇa as everything? This is intelligence. Kṛṣṇa is saying, He's not bluffing. So why not take Kṛṣṇa's word as truth and immediately, mam prapadyate, immediately surrender? "Kṛṣṇa, I do not know anything. I simply surrender unto You. Please protect me." That's all. Finish business. Very simple thing, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. Everyone can take. Doesn't require to become very highly, scientist, philosopher and something like that. Simply accept Kṛṣṇa's words and see the result. And the result is happening also.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG713LondonAugust41971_56" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="251" link="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971|Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: By taking to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. This is... Therefore this movement. This movement is to make everyone... Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). They have suffered under misconception many, many births, and here is the opportunity that they can stop their birth and death process and take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness and go back to home. That's all.</p>
<p>Indian man (2): Does that means they should not worship these demigods and goddesses?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, there is no need.</p>
<p>Indian man (2): Sarasvatī and Lakṣmī and...</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG713LondonAugust41971_57" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="251" link="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971|Lecture on BG 7.1-3 -- London, August 4, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is also described in the Bhagavad-gītā. Antavat tu phalaṁ teṣāṁ tad bhavaty alpa-medhasām ([[Vanisource:BG 7.23 (1972)|BG 7.23]]). The benefit derived from the demigods, that is temporary. But rascals who have got less substance of brain, they are after that. It is clearly said. Antavat tu phalaṁ teṣāṁ tad bhavaty alpa-medhasām. Alpa-medhasām means one who has got brain substance very little, they are attracted by all these things. They are meant for third-class, fourth-class men. Because they will not worship God, "All right you worship these demigods. At least, you try to worship something instead of becoming atheist." That is the process. But when one is actually intelligent, after many, many births, he should worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG72NairobiOctober281975_58" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="258" link="Lecture on BG 7.2 -- Nairobi, October 28, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.2 -- Nairobi, October 28, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.2 -- Nairobi, October 28, 1975|Lecture on BG 7.2 -- Nairobi, October 28, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Everyone is in ajñāna and falsely thinking that he is some very important person. This is ajñāna. Real jñāna, as will be explained here, is to receive from Kṛṣṇa. So Kṛṣṇa is giving knowledge in the Bhagavad-gītā. He'll speak in later chapters that "The real jñāna is to surrender unto Me." This is real jñāna. Kṛṣṇa will say in the Eighth Chapter, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births..." So today I may be minister, and tomorrow, after death, I may become a dog. But that is not in my control. You cannot say that "I am minister. I am this. I am that. I am high-court judge or very important man. So I am ordering material nature. Although I shall die, next life I shall become again high-court judge or Nārāyaṇa, something." No. That is not possible. You are fully under control. You have given a license to enjoy or suffer in this body, and in this body, as soon as it is finished, karmaṇā daiva-netreṇa jantur... ([[Vanisource:SB 3.31.1|SB 3.31.1]]), and then you get another body.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG72NairobiOctober281975_59" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="258" link="Lecture on BG 7.2 -- Nairobi, October 28, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.2 -- Nairobi, October 28, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.2 -- Nairobi, October 28, 1975|Lecture on BG 7.2 -- Nairobi, October 28, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">"After many, many births of cats and dogs and trees and this and that," so many, eight million, "when one comes to this knowledge," vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), "Kṛṣṇa is everything," sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ, "he is guru."</p>
<p>So guru means... Vedic injunction is you must go to a guru. Now, it may be difficult, who is guru. That is also Kṛṣṇa showing a..., "I am guru." Mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat kiñcid asti dhanañjaya: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.7 (1972)|BG 7.7]]) "There is no more any better person than Me." And He has proved it. He has proved it. Kṛṣṇa, so long He was on this platform, on this earthly planet, He proved that He was the greatest personality, greatest persons... Read history and you will see. He proved Himself from His childhood. When He was three months... He is neither old nor... But He was playing just like human child on the lap of Mother Yaśodā. The Pūtanā came to kill Him.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG73NairobiOctober291975_60" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="265" link="Lecture on BG 7.3 -- Nairobi, October 29, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.3 -- Nairobi, October 29, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.3 -- Nairobi, October 29, 1975|Lecture on BG 7.3 -- Nairobi, October 29, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is final realization. So long you do not come to this position, the final constitutional position, that "We are eternal servant of Kṛṣṇa," the knowledge is lacking; there is no perfection of knowledge.</p>
<p>Therefore Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad-gītā, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births," jñānavān, "when one actually self-realized, in awareness, fully in knowledge, then he understands," vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), "Vāsudeva is the supreme everything. I am simply part and parcel of Vāsudeva, eternal servant of Vāsudeva." Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). That kind of perfect person, mahātmā, is very, very rare, to understand that "I am eternal servant of Kṛṣṇa. My only business is to serve Kṛṣṇa. That is my constitutional position. I am part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa." This finger is part and parcel of my body. His business is to serve the whole body. I ask the finger, "Come here"; immediately... This is the normal, healthy condition of the part and parcel. Just like leg is my part and parcel of the body.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG7910BombayFebruary241974_61" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="279" link="Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974|Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Then he met another cobbler. He was sewing shoes. So he also asked, "Sir, where you are going?" "Now I am going to Vaikuṇṭha to see my Lord." So, "Will you ask when I shall get salvation?" So Nārada Muni noted, "All right, I shall ask." So when Nārada Muni met Nārāyaṇa, he, after finishing his business, he asked the two men's question, that "These two men, one very learned scholar, brāhmaṇa, he also asked me this question, and the cobbler also asked me." So Nārāyaṇa said "This cobbler will get his salvation after finishing this life, and this brāhmaṇa will have to take, wait for many, many births."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG7910BombayFebruary241974_62" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="279" link="Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974|Lecture on BG 7.9-10 -- Bombay, February 24, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So Nārada Muni became very much inquisitive, "How is that?" So when he came back, first of all he met the brāhmaṇa. He inquired, "Did you inquire, sir, about me?" "Yes, yes. He said that you have to wait many, many births." No, He did not say many, many births, Kṛṣṇa said, Nārāyaṇa said that "When you meet them again, you say that, if they inquire 'What my Lord was doing at that time?' you say that 'He was pulling one elephant from the hole of a nail,' " what is called?</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG71113BombayApril51971_63" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="281" link="Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971|Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">The whole world is captivated by these three qualities of material nature. The difference is that Kṛṣṇa comes also within this material world, and the ordinary living entities, they also come within this material world. As Kṛṣṇa says in the Fourth Chapter, "Arjuna, both you and Me had many, many births, but you have forgotten. I have not forgotten." This forgetfulness is under the influence of tamo-guṇa. So although Kṛṣṇa takes birth, many, many times He appears, janma karma me divyam ([[Vanisource:BG 4.9 (1972)|BG 4.9]]), but such appearance and disappearance are divyam, transcendental. They are not ordinary. And if we accept Kṛṣṇa's birth or Kṛṣṇa's appearance and disappearance like us, then we are mistaken. Then mohitam.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG71113BombayApril51971_64" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="281" link="Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971|Lecture on BG 7.11-13 -- Bombay, April 5, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). Here it is said that māyayāpahṛta-jñānāḥ. So long there is influence of māyā, he is lost of real knowledge. But in spite of that, if he makes progress in understanding the Absolute Truth, then, after many births, not in one birth—bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]])—when he comes to the actual point of knowledge, that Kṛṣṇa is everything, vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti, prapadyante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), he surrenders. That means to surrender unto Kṛṣṇa is the ultimate goal of all knowledge, all activities, all tapasya, all yoga. If one does not reach that point, then he is simply wasting his time and energy.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG714HamburgSeptember81969_65" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="283" link="Lecture on BG 7.14 -- Hamburg, September 8, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.14 -- Hamburg, September 8, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.14 -- Hamburg, September 8, 1969|Lecture on BG 7.14 -- Hamburg, September 8, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">It is possible in one second, provided you are serious. It is not difficult. Kṛṣṇa-bhakti... Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births, one, when one is intelligent, wise, fully grown, wise, he surrenders unto Me," Kṛṣṇa says. So if I am intelligent, then I will see that "If that is the goal of life, that after many, many births one has to surrender to Kṛṣṇa, why not myself surrender immediately?" This is intelligence. If this is a fact, that one has to come to this point after cultivating knowledge for many, many births, then why not accept it immediately? Why shall I wait for many, many births if this is a fact?</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG714HamburgSeptember81969_66" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="283" link="Lecture on BG 7.14 -- Hamburg, September 8, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.14 -- Hamburg, September 8, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.14 -- Hamburg, September 8, 1969|Lecture on BG 7.14 -- Hamburg, September 8, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So that requires little intelligence. It does not require many, many births. It requires little intelligence. Take to this Kṛṣṇa consciousness seriously; your problems are solved. Now, if you don't believe in it, then come to argument, come to philosophy, come to reason. Go on arguing. There are volumes of books. You can be convinced. You can learn it. Every answer is there in the Bhagavad-gītā. You can try to understand it with your reason, with your arguments. It is open. (break) ...like Arjuna. Arjuna was taught Bhagavad-gītā, how much time? At most, within half an hour. Because he was very intelligent. This Bhagavad-gītā, the people of the world are reading. Very, very learned scholar, wise men, they are reading. They are trying to understand, giving different interpretation. And there are thousands of edition, commentaries. But Arjuna was intelligent; he understood it within half an hour.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG714HamburgSeptember81969_67" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="283" link="Lecture on BG 7.14 -- Hamburg, September 8, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.14 -- Hamburg, September 8, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.14 -- Hamburg, September 8, 1969|Lecture on BG 7.14 -- Hamburg, September 8, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So it requires relative intelligence. Everything... This world is relative. Law of relativity. That is scientific. Professor Einstein's theory? Law of relativity? So it is relatively. One can become immediately Kṛṣṇa conscious within a second, and one cannot become Kṛṣṇa conscious after many, many births. So it is relative. If you have got sufficient intelligence, you can accept it immediately. If there is less intelligence, then it will take time. You cannot say that "It will be possible after so many years." That cannot be said. It is relative. Everything is relative. For a human being, from here to here, one step; and for a small microbe, it is ten miles from here to here, ten miles for him. So everything is relative. This world is relative world. There is no such formula that "One can be Kṛṣṇa conscious after so many years." No. There is no such formula. One cannot become Kṛṣṇa conscious even millions after..., births, and one can become within second Kṛṣṇa conscious.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG718NewYorkOctober121966_68" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="286" link="Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Now, this research work about the science of God has to be prosecuted for several births after births. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante—after many births. God realization, it is very easy, but at the same time, it is very difficult. Easy for them who accept it as truth, and those who are trying to understand by dint of his knowledge, advancement of knowledge, he has to create his faith after he finishes his research work. Then that takes many, many births.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG718NewYorkOctober121966_69" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="286" link="Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">"The sun is on my head." Similarly, the Supreme Lord is also represented by the Supersoul conception in everyone's heart. Not only in everyone's heart, but even in every atom He is represented. So that realization is the second stage. And the third stage is to realize the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Therefore it is said here that these stages... Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). Bahūnām means after many, many, many births. Spiritual realization is not achieved in one birth. If one is fortunate, oh, he can achieve in one second. He can achieve in one second. But generally, it takes many, many years and many, many births to realize what is God, what is the Absolute Truth.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG718NewYorkOctober121966_70" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="286" link="Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If one gives up the research work just after making a few steps advance, oh, that will not help. One has to go on, go on with it with steadiness, that "What is God? I shall see." That is called jñānī, jijñāsu, philosopher, inquisitive.</p>
<p>So out of those inquisitive and philosophers, if they continue this research work, what God is, then there will be a time, after many, many births, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), not immediately, but after many, many births. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān. Jñānavān means those who are in knowledge—not fools—those who are in actually in knowledge, jñānavān. Jñāna means knowledge, and vān means one has got knowledge. So he's called jñānavān. Jñānavān māṁ prapadyate. He, by..., by the end of his research work, he finds that Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is the destination. He is the root of everything. And when he understands fully by his philosophical research, then what does he do?</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG718NewYorkOctober121966_71" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="286" link="Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">When he understands that "He is the Supreme Lord. God is the root of everything," then what does he do? Now, māṁ prapadyate. He surrenders. He surrenders. That surrendering process is the ultimate goal. Either you do it immediately or you do it by research work of many, many births, but the process and the ultimate goal is that you have to surrender, that "You are great. I am Your subordinate." That is the process. So any intelligent man can do it immediately. If one understands that "Ultimately I will have to surrender to the Supreme Lord, and the Supreme Lord is here, personally speaking Bhagavad-gītā, so why not surrender immediately? If ultimately, after many, many births, I have to come to this point, to surrender, so why should I take so much trouble for many, many births?</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG718NewYorkOctober121966_72" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="286" link="Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">If ultimately, after many, many births, I have to come to this point, to surrender, so why should I take so much trouble for many, many births? Why not immediately?" So if we take up this principle, this intelligence, then God is realized in one second. But if you don't, then go on with research work for many, many, many, many births. But you have to come to that point. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). Vāsudeva, the Supreme Lord, Personality of God, is everything. He is the root. He is the origin of everything. Janmādy asya yataḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.1|SB 1.1.1]]). The Vedānta-sūtra says, janmādy asya yataḥ anvayād itarataś ca artheṣu abhijñaḥ svarāṭ. These descriptions are there.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG718NewYorkOctober121966_73" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="286" link="Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.18 -- New York, October 12, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We are under the threefold miseries of this material world, and the Supreme Lord is giving us the opportunity to get out of it by this surrendering process. So if we take up the surrendering process immediately, then God realization is a business for one second. Otherwise, I'll have to go on with this research work for many, many, many, many, many births. Then another question is, may be raised, that "If the Supreme Personality is the ultimate goal and one has to surrender to Him, then why there are so many different processes of worship in the world?" That question may be raised. So that is answered here, in the next verse.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG82892NewYorkNovember211966_74" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="296" link="Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966|Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Because in the Bhagavad-gītā you'll find that a person who is learned, who is actually in knowledge, his symptoms will be that he has surrendered unto God. That is the symptom of knowledge. So long we go on speculating about God but do not surrender, that is not perfection of knowledge. Perfection of knowledge is bahūnāṁ janmanām ante: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births' mental speculation, philosophical speculation, when one understands what is actually God, God, then he surrenders there. He surrenders there." So long we do not surrender, we cannot understand God. So bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate. The Lord says, "One who is actually in knowledge, that knowledge is achieved after many, many births, not all of a sudden."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG82892NewYorkNovember211966_75" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="296" link="Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966|Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Of course, if we accept that "God is great. Let me surrender," then we can accept in a second. But our present position is to become envious of any greatness. So we are also envious of God: "Why shall I surrender unto God? I am independent. I shall work independently." These things are there. Therefore for rectifying these misgivings we have to wait many births. And Lord says, "After many, many births, one who is actually in knowledge, he surrenders unto Me. He surrenders." Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]).</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG82892NewYorkNovember211966_76" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="296" link="Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966|Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">And Lord says, "After many, many births, one who is actually in knowledge, he surrenders unto Me. He surrenders." Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]).</p>
<p>How? How does he show? Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "Because after many, many births' philosophical research, he can understand, 'God is everything. God is everything.' " The whole Bhagavad-gītā teaches this very science. God is everything. We are also part and parcel of God. So vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "One who understands that 'Vāsudeva, God, or Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa...' " Śrī Kṛṣṇa means God. If there is any perfect name of God, that is Śrī Kṛṣṇa. Why?</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG82892NewYorkNovember211966_77" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="296" link="Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966|Lecture on BG 8.28-9.2 -- New York, November 21, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Hariṁ vinā na mṛtiṁ taranti: "Nobody can stop his repetition of birth and death without having the causeless mercy of God."</p>
<p>So therefore Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa is a scientific name of God. So Vāsudeva, that Kṛṣṇa's another... Kṛṣṇa has many names. Vāsudeva. Vāsudeva means "all-pervading." So vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). After many, many births, if one comes to this understanding that "Vāsudeva, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is everything," that is his perfection of knowledge. That is his perfection of knowledge. And at that time he surrenders. Sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ. That sort of, I mean to say, great soul, mahātmā... Mahātmā means great soul. You have... Perhaps you have heard mahātmā, the word, Indian word. Mahātmā is a designation of a person who is a surrendered soul to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He's called mahātmā. He's not... Mahātmā means "great," "expanding, expanded." Ha.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG92CalcuttaMarch71972_78" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="300" link="Lecture on BG 9.2 -- Calcutta, March 7, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 9.2 -- Calcutta, March 7, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 9.2 -- Calcutta, March 7, 1972|Lecture on BG 9.2 -- Calcutta, March 7, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Confidential, anything confidential is not to be disclosed to the common man. Or after many, many research, one can found..., one can find out the confidence or the confidential nature of devotional service. Bahunam janmanam ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), it is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā. It is most confidential because one comes to this knowledge after cultivating other knowledges for many, many births. One comes to this knowledge. What is this knowledge, devotional, rāja-vidyā? What is the symptom? Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate. This is the symptom: that one has surrendered to Kṛṣṇa. That means he is in perfect knowledge. So long he is not surrendering to Kṛṣṇa, he is trying to become Kṛṣṇa, or he is posing himself as equal to Kṛṣṇa or sometimes above Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG92CalcuttaMarch71972_79" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="300" link="Lecture on BG 9.2 -- Calcutta, March 7, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 9.2 -- Calcutta, March 7, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 9.2 -- Calcutta, March 7, 1972|Lecture on BG 9.2 -- Calcutta, March 7, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">They say, at least his disciples say, that he is above Kṛṣṇa. That is not knowledge. That is ignorance. Real knowledge, jñānavān, is to surrender to Kṛṣṇa. That is real knowledge. Bahunam janmanam ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). If one is actually intelligent, he should not wait for many, many births. If he believes in the Bhagavad-gītā, in the statement of Bhagavad-gītā, then, immediately after hearing this verse, that bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate, he should immediately surrender to Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG925NewYorkNovember231966_80" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="303" link="Lecture on BG 9.2-5 -- New York, November 23, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 9.2-5 -- New York, November 23, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 9.2-5 -- New York, November 23, 1966|Lecture on BG 9.2-5 -- New York, November 23, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So "Yes, two, one brāhmaṇa and one cobbler, they inquired like this. So may I know what is their destination?" So Nārāyaṇa said, "Well, yes, the cobbler, this after giving up this body, he's coming here at Vaikuṇṭha." "And what about that brāhmaṇa?" "Oh, he has to remain there still so many births, or I do not know when he's coming." So Nārada Muni was astonished, that "I saw that he's very nice brāhmaṇa, and he's a cobbler. Why is that?" So he inquired that "I could not, cannot understand the mystery. Why You say that cobbler is coming this, after this body, and why not this brāhmaṇa?" "Oh, that will, you'll understand. If they inquire that 'What Kṛṣṇa, or Nārāyaṇa, was doing in the, in His abode,' so just explain that He was taking one elephant from the holes of a," I mean to say, what is called...?</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG93TorontoJune201976_81" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="305" link="Lecture on BG 9.3 -- Toronto, June 20, 1976" link_text="Lecture on BG 9.3 -- Toronto, June 20, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 9.3 -- Toronto, June 20, 1976|Lecture on BG 9.3 -- Toronto, June 20, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You may be very proud of your strong body, your social condition or political condition, but after death it is not under your control. It is under the control of the material nature. So don't be falsely proud, bewildered. Ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā kartāham iti manyate ([[Vanisource:BG 3.27 (1972)|BG 3.27]]). Don't be foolish person by false egotism that "I am free, I can do whatever I like." Then you'll suffer and remain in the path of repetition of birth and death. And there are 8,400,000 species of life. We have to go through this process, we fall down. So this human form of life is obtained, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), after many many births, evolutional process we have got it. Now it is the time to understand our position. What is that position? The position is that we are eternal part and parcel of God.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG911CalcuttaJune301973_82" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="313" link="Lecture on BG 9.11 -- Calcutta, June 30, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 9.11 -- Calcutta, June 30, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 9.11 -- Calcutta, June 30, 1973|Lecture on BG 9.11 -- Calcutta, June 30, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">These mūḍhas cannot become. It is not possible. If you want to remain a mūḍha, then you can not understand. When your mūḍhatvam, your "unwisdom" will go... How it will go? Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). If you cultivate knowledge, spiritual knowledge for many, many births, bahūnāṁ janma. Because you will not accept Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality of Godhead simply by saying by Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa says, "Yes, I am the Supreme Personality of Godhead." If you don't believe it, then you have to cultivate knowledge for many, many births. You have to take birth and cultivate spiritual knowledge, again die, again come, again come, again take birth. This will go on continuously. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). And if you are fortunate enough to become wise enough, then you will understand, vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "Oh, Vāsudeva, Kṛṣṇa is everything."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG91518NewYorkDecember21966_83" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="317" link="Lecture on BG 9.15-18 -- New York, December 2, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 9.15-18 -- New York, December 2, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 9.15-18 -- New York, December 2, 1966|Lecture on BG 9.15-18 -- New York, December 2, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You may go in different way, accepting yourself as God, accepting everything as God, accepting the universal form of God. If you make actually progress, then you have come to this point. Sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ. Again He says, mahātmā. When he comes to that point of Kṛṣṇa, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante... ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). This process you have to proceed, you have to make progress, many, many births. That is line. You have taken the line. That's all right, but it will take some time. Not in one life you'll come to that point.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG1045NewYorkJanuary41967_84" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="333" link="Lecture on BG 10.4-5 -- New York, January 4, 1967" link_text="Lecture on BG 10.4-5 -- New York, January 4, 1967">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 10.4-5 -- New York, January 4, 1967|Lecture on BG 10.4-5 -- New York, January 4, 1967]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We must be sober. We must be sober. We must be distinct from animal life. That is called utilization of human form of life. Labdhvā su-durlabham idam. It is stated in the Vedic literature that labdhvā su-durlabham idaṁ bahu-sambhavānte: "This body is achieved after many, many, many, many births, after millions and trillions of years." Because... You don't think that all of a sudden, by accident, we have got this body. There are other bodies, cats, dogs and so many bodies. Why in this civilized form of? There must have been some process. So this is said in the Vedic literature, labdhvā su-durlabham idaṁ bahu-sambhavānte, mānuṣyam artha-dam: "This human form of life is achieved after many, many millions of other forms of birth."</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG132MelbourneApril41972_85" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="344" link="Lecture on BG 13.2 -- Melbourne, April 4, 1972" link_text="Lecture on BG 13.2 -- Melbourne, April 4, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 13.2 -- Melbourne, April 4, 1972|Lecture on BG 13.2 -- Melbourne, April 4, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">And there are information, perfect knowledge. If you want to consult, you want to take it, then your life will be perfect.</p>
<p>Otherwise if we simply waste our time for the animal propensities of life, then again we glide down to the animal life. That is a great loss. After many, many births, we have got this human form of life. If we simply waste like cats and dogs, then again we become cats and dogs or tree or anything. There are so many species of life. That will be great mistake, great loss. Havoc it will be.</p>
<p>Therefore our this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to educate people to God consciousness or Kṛṣṇa consciousness so that his life may be success. Thank you very much. (end)</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG135BombaySeptember281973_86" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="354" link="Lecture on BG 13.5 -- Bombay, September 28, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 13.5 -- Bombay, September 28, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 13.5 -- Bombay, September 28, 1973|Lecture on BG 13.5 -- Bombay, September 28, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śrutayo vibhinnāḥ. Vedic literature—Sāma, Yajur, Ṛg, Artharva—they are different. They are one, but we understand differently, according to our quality of understanding. Otherwise, all Vedic literature aims to understand Kṛṣṇa. Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 15.15 (1972)|BG 15.15]]). That is the purpose of Veda, to understand Kṛṣṇa. After many, many births of studying of Vedic literature, in the process of jñāna-mārga, when one becomes actually wise, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), when he is actually wise, jñānavān māṁ prapadyante, he understands Kṛṣṇa and surrenders unto Him. That is actually understanding. So chandobhir vividhaiḥ pṛthak.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG1313BombayOctober61973_87" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="361" link="Lecture on BG 13.13 -- Bombay, October 6, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 13.13 -- Bombay, October 6, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 13.13 -- Bombay, October 6, 1973|Lecture on BG 13.13 -- Bombay, October 6, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is dharma, to surrender unto Kṛṣṇa: "Kṛṣṇa, I am eternally Your servant. I forgot You. Now I come to my senses. I surrender unto You." This is dharma. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). This sense, real sense, comes when after struggling, struggling for many, many births, one becomes wise. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān. Jñānavān means wise. Not fools and rascals. Jñānavān māṁ prapadyate: "He surrenders unto Me." So anyone who is surrendering to Kṛṣṇa, taking to Kṛṣṇa or devotional service fully, he is the most intelligent man. He's not cats and dogs or rascals. Because Kṛṣṇa says, jñānavān. This is real knowledge. That will be explained.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG1319BombayOctober131973_88" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="367" link="Lecture on BG 13.19 -- Bombay, October 13, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 13.19 -- Bombay, October 13, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 13.19 -- Bombay, October 13, 1973|Lecture on BG 13.19 -- Bombay, October 13, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Simply waste of time.</p>
<p>But if by knowledge, you come to the point of bhakti, how to surrender to Kṛṣṇa, then your knowledge is perfect. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says that this knowledge, to surrender unto Me, how to surrender to Kṛṣṇa, comes after many many births. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). We are taking birth one after another, one after another, one after another. So in this way, not ordinary person. Ordinary persons, if they have no knowledge, then their next birth may be cats, dogs, trees, or anything else. Those who are in knowledge, ūrdhvaṁ gacchanti sattva-sthāḥ. Knowledge means those who are situated in the quality of goodness, prakāśa, everything is clearly understood. That is knowledge.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG167TokyoJanuary271975_89" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="389" link="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.7 -- Tokyo, January 27, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In this way, by evolutionary process, one after another, one comes to the form of human being. This human being is therefore very, very rare. After going through 8,400,000 species of life, one comes to this human form of life.</p>
<p>So here is the chance of getting freedom from this evolutionary process. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). After many, many births, we have got. Why? Now, to become civilized. What is civilization? Civilization... The Aryans are called civilized. Why? Aryan means going forward. And what is the destination of going forward? The destination is to understand the original cause of creation, God. Janmādy asya yataḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.1|SB 1.1.1]]). That is the Vedānta philosophy. Janmādy asya yataḥ. The original cause from where everything is coming into being, by whose management everything is maintained, and after annihilation everything will enter into Him—that is the original person. So human form of life is meant for understanding the original cause of all causes. That is human form of life.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG168TokyoJanuary281975_90" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="394" link="Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Tokyo, January 28, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Tokyo, January 28, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Tokyo, January 28, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Tokyo, January 28, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore this foolish class of men who are simply studying, they want time to find out, but actually if he is wise, if he is searching out regularly by wise conclusion, then, at some time, he will come to the conclusion, as it is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante: after many births of research work, he will come to this conclusion that there is God, Vāsudeva. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). Then he is the first-class mahātmā. But that is very rare. Everyone is durātmā, anīśvaram: "There is no īśvara. This is a false manifestation." That is not false. You study everything. You study even one plant. You can see so many arrangement, so many fibers. Fine fibers are coming out, and from one fiber to another. Even a small herb and vegetable, you will find there is craftsmanship. You cannot say it is chance. You cannot do it. So there is brain. That is right conclusion, "There is brain behind it," and that is theism.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG168TokyoJanuary281975_91" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="394" link="Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Tokyo, January 28, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Tokyo, January 28, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Tokyo, January 28, 1975|Lecture on BG 16.8 -- Tokyo, January 28, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You cannot do it. So there is brain. That is right conclusion, "There is brain behind it," and that is theism. And that brain, what is the brain behind this, who has this brain behind this, behind this, behind this, behind this, if you come... Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]), after searching out for many, many births, then one comes to the conclusion that vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). You come to the conclusion, "Kṛṣṇa is the cause of everything." That is already concluded. Īśvaraḥ paramaḥ kṛṣṇaḥ (Bs. 5.1): "Īśvaraḥ, the supreme controller is Kṛṣṇa." Īśvaraḥ paramaḥ... There are so many controllers. Just like this city is being controlled by the police commissioner or somebody else. So above him, above him, above him, there is controller. And the... Above all, the supreme controller is Kṛṣṇa. That is the conclusion.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG1713HonoluluJuly41974_92" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="402" link="Lecture on BG 17.1-3 -- Honolulu, July 4, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 17.1-3 -- Honolulu, July 4, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 17.1-3 -- Honolulu, July 4, 1974|Lecture on BG 17.1-3 -- Honolulu, July 4, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So those who are trying to come to the platform of spiritual realization, God realization, they must stick to the sattva-guṇa principle. Otherwise it is hopeless. it is not hopeless. Nothing is hopeless. It will take very, very long time. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gītā you will find the statement, bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate: ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]) "After many, many births, when one is actually wise..." Wise means in the sattva-guṇa platform. "Then he surrenders to Kṛṣṇa." Then the beginning of spiritual life is there, and he may finish this course of spiritual understanding even in this life, simply by understanding Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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