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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG23637LondonSeptember41973_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="100" link="Lecture on BG 2.36-37 -- London, September 4, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.36-37 -- London, September 4, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.36-37 -- London, September 4, 1973|Lecture on BG 2.36-37 -- London, September 4, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Everyone, in this age, everyone is śūdra. How you can expect a śūdra will be encouraged to fight? That is not possible. Therefore real social structure should be four divisions, brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra. Brāhmaṇa, fully engaged for enlightenment of the people, knowledge, spiritual knowledge. They are meant for that. They will cultivate that knowledge personally, paṭhana pāṭhana, and make students. Brahminical class. Similarly kṣatriya. They should be trained up in politics, in fighting, not to flee away from fighting. These are the training of the kṣatriyas. Similarly, vaiśyas, they should be trained up how to cultivate, grow foodgrains, how to give protection to the cows. And śūdras are meant for simply serving these higher class, brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra. That is the program.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG25558NewYorkApril151966_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="111" link="Lecture on BG 2.55-58 -- New York, April 15, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 2.55-58 -- New York, April 15, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.55-58 -- New York, April 15, 1966|Lecture on BG 2.55-58 -- New York, April 15, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That is the instruction of Lord Caitanya. He, He has put up His prayers. I have got this paper. I'll distribute you, to you, after the meeting is over. That He says that "My dear Lord, Kṛṣṇa, somehow or other, I am fallen into this ocean of misunderstanding. Ocean of misunderstanding." The prayer is just like this. I'll utter the whole Sanskrit structure: ayi nanda-tanuja patitaṁ kiṅkaraṁ māṁ viṣame bhavāmbudhau, kṛpayā tava pāda-paṅkaja-sthita-dhūlī-sadṛśaṁ vicintaya. He's addressing the Lord, "Oh, Lord, the son of Nanda Mahārāja..." This Nanda Mahārāja, son of Nanda Mahārāja, it is very significant. I shall describe it later on. "O My Lord, the son of Nanda Mahārāja, I am Your eternal servitor, and, somehow or other, I am now fallen in this ocean of misconception. Kindly pick me up and fix me up as one of the atoms of the dust of Your lotus feet." That is the prayer.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG31830LosAngelesDecember301968_2" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="124" link="Lecture on BG 3.18-30 -- Los Angeles, December 30, 1968" link_text="Lecture on BG 3.18-30 -- Los Angeles, December 30, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 3.18-30 -- Los Angeles, December 30, 1968|Lecture on BG 3.18-30 -- Los Angeles, December 30, 1968]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Madhudviṣa: Prabhupāda, in this age of Kali when there is no social structure or varṇāśrama-dharma, how can one discriminate how he is utilizing his energies for his prescribed duties? How can one determine his prescribed duties, as Lord Kṛṣṇa has described here, for Arjuna to follow his prescribed duties.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Before coming to Kṛṣṇa consciousness were you in the varṇāśrama? Then how you have come? How you have come to this position?</p>
<p>Madhudviṣa: Out of misery.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG411NewYorkJuly271966_3" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="158" link="Lecture on BG 4.11 -- New York, July 27, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.11 -- New York, July 27, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.11 -- New York, July 27, 1966|Lecture on BG 4.11 -- New York, July 27, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">When a dead man is there, the medical man or every scientist, everyone is sitting. How that spiritual atom is passed from this body, nobody can see. They can simply say, "Oh, now he is gone." Who is gone? Have you see who is gone? "No." Then what you are seeing? "I am seeing this dead body." So whole life you have seen this dead body. If I cannot see at the present structure of my body even the spark, material atom, how we can see God, the Supreme Spirit?</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG426BombayApril151974_4" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="192" link="Lecture on BG 4.26 -- Bombay, April 15, 1974" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.26 -- Bombay, April 15, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.26 -- Bombay, April 15, 1974|Lecture on BG 4.26 -- Bombay, April 15, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This is the study of the whole structure. Grossly, our body means the senses. We are, everyone, animal and less intelligent men, they are busy only for sense gratification. Indriyāṇi parāṇi... They think the sense gratification, "This is enjoyment, this is happiness." But actually that is not happiness. Sukham ātyantikaṁ yat tad atīndriyam ([[Vanisource:BG 6.20-23 (1972)|BG 6.21]]). What is actual happiness, ātyantikam, that is atīndriya. Atīndriya means beyond the senses. But because we have no such knowledge, because we are in the bodily concept of life, "I am this body," so I am interested in the matter of gratifying me senses. Indriyāṇi parāṇy āhuḥ.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG92932NewYorkDecember201966_5" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="325" link="Lecture on BG 9.29-32 -- New York, December 20, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 9.29-32 -- New York, December 20, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 9.29-32 -- New York, December 20, 1966|Lecture on BG 9.29-32 -- New York, December 20, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Although the woman is born in the brāhmaṇa family, she has no that reformation. Because striyaḥ, woman class, are taken less intelligent, they should be given protection, but they cannot be elevated. But here in the Bhagavad-gītā, He surpasses all these formalities. Lord Kṛṣṇa surpasses all these formalities. He is giving facility to everyone. Never mind what he is. In the social structure, you may consider that woman is less intelligent or śūdra or less purified, but in spiritual consciousness there is no such bar. Here Kṛṣṇa accepts everyone. Either you become woman or you are śūdra or a vaiśya or whatever you may be, that doesn't matter. If you simply take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, the Lord is there. He will give you all protection, all protection, and gradually He will help you. You are already...</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG1313DurbanOctober131975_6" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="343" link="Lecture on BG 13.1-3 -- Durban, October 13, 1975" link_text="Lecture on BG 13.1-3 -- Durban, October 13, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 13.1-3 -- Durban, October 13, 1975|Lecture on BG 13.1-3 -- Durban, October 13, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">It is said, īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe 'rjuna tiṣṭhati: ([[Vanisource:BG 18.61 (1972)|BG 18.61]]) "He is situated in everyone's heart." It does not mean that He lives in the brāhmaṇa's heart and not in the ant's heart. Everyone's heart.</p>
<p>A small insect, a full-stop-like size, it has also the same anatomical, physiological structure of the body and the same way, jumping and enjoying. You might have seen. So there is no difference between the bodily construction. Everyone has got heart and everything, complete. But according to the desire and karma we are getting different types of body.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG1841StockholmSeptember71973_7" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="403" link="Lecture on BG 18.41 -- Stockholm, September 7, 1973" link_text="Lecture on BG 18.41 -- Stockholm, September 7, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 18.41 -- Stockholm, September 7, 1973|Lecture on BG 18.41 -- Stockholm, September 7, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I shall try to explain the social structure of the human society as they are described in the Bhagavad-gītā. In previous chapters, Śrī Kṛṣṇa has explained: cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 4.13 (1972)|BG 4.13]]). By quality and by work, there is, or there must be four divisions of the social structure. Cātur-varṇyam, first-class, second-class, third-class and fourth-class. That is very natural. Just like in your body, my body is divided into four divisions. The head, head department. In every, I mean to say, unit, there is head department, the first-class department, the second-class department.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB1425MontrealJune201968_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="128" link="Lecture on SB 1.4.25 -- Montreal, June 20, 1968" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.4.25 -- Montreal, June 20, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.4.25 -- Montreal, June 20, 1968|Lecture on SB 1.4.25 -- Montreal, June 20, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Those who have Vedic cultured, those who have followed the Vedic principles rigidly, it doesn't matter whether he is a householder or a brahmacārī or a sannyāsī. There are eight divisions of human society: four divisions social structure, and four divisions for spiritual enlightenment. So unless the eight divisions are properly managed, that is not human society. Human society is distinct from animal society by culture. What is that culture? Vedic culture, knowledge. Vedic means knowledge. One must be equipped with full knowledge. "So this Vedic culture," Vyāsadeva says, "or the Vedic principles, are not very easily understood by women class, by worker class, and dvija-bandhu." Dvija-bandhu means the boys who have taken birth in the family who are supposed to be very cultured, but their habit is different.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1425MontrealJune201968_1" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="128" link="Lecture on SB 1.4.25 -- Montreal, June 20, 1968" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.4.25 -- Montreal, June 20, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.4.25 -- Montreal, June 20, 1968|Lecture on SB 1.4.25 -- Montreal, June 20, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">In every country, that deterioration of social structure has already begun. They are called varṇa-saṅkara. Varṇa-saṅkara factually means that those who are illiterate. So for them it is very difficult to understand the Vedic principles. Therefore the same knowledge is described in stories just like Mahābhārata, Purāṇas, and for understanding of all men, all women. So Mahābhārata is especially written for such class of men and women. And the hero of Mahābhārata is Arjuna. Similarly, the hero of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam is Arjuna's grandson, Mahārāja Parīkṣit, King Parīkṣit.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB1711VrndavanaSeptember101976_2" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="169" link="Lecture on SB 1.7.11 -- Vrndavana, September 10, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.7.11 -- Vrndavana, September 10, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.7.11 -- Vrndavana, September 10, 1976|Lecture on SB 1.7.11 -- Vrndavana, September 10, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Woman means for man the woman is woman, and for the woman the man is woman. Not that woman means a particular class. Woman means which are enjoyable. So in this material world, the man is enjoyable by the woman, and the woman is enjoyable by the man. For both of them, viṣayiṇāṁ sandarśanam atha yoṣitām. Yoṣit means enjoyable. This body is superfluous. The bodily structure, it can be changed. Perhaps you know, now in medical science they can change the woman's body into man's body, and the man's body into woman's body. It was formerly being also changed. In Bhāgavata you'll find that in a garden—I forget the name—in a garden where Lord Śiva was engaged with Umā, husband and wife, all of a sudden many saintly persons entered to see Lord Śiva.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB11539LosAngelesDecember171973_3" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="307" link="Lecture on SB 1.15.39 -- Los Angeles, December 17, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.15.39 -- Los Angeles, December 17, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.39 -- Los Angeles, December 17, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.39 -- Los Angeles, December 17, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So any civilized man must be within this category of varṇāśrama-dharma. Otherwise he is animal. Unless you accept some institution of making progress in spiritual life, you are animal. That is the difference between animal and man. Man has got some institution, some social structure, religious structure, political structure. Otherwise what is the difference between animals? The animals, they haven't got any president or senate house or parliament or church. That is the difference.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB231819LosAngelesJune131972_4" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="387" link="Lecture on SB 2.3.18-19 -- Los Angeles, June 13, 1972" link_text="Lecture on SB 2.3.18-19 -- Los Angeles, June 13, 1972">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.3.18-19 -- Los Angeles, June 13, 1972|Lecture on SB 2.3.18-19 -- Los Angeles, June 13, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Therefore they want to get the maximum comforts of life only in this present life, thinking conclusively that there is no life after death. This ignorance about the eternity of the living being and the change of covering in the material world has played havoc in the structure of the modern human society. Consequently there are many problems multiplied by various plans of modernized man. The plans for solving the problems of society have only aggravated the troubles. Even if it is possible to prolong life more than 100 years, advancement of human civilization does not necessarily follow. The Bhāgavatam says that certain trees live for hundreds and thousands of years. At Vṛndāvana there is a tamarind tree.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB231819BombayMarch231977AtCrossMaidanPandal_5" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="388" link="Lecture on SB 2.3.18-19 -- Bombay, March 23, 1977, At Cross Maidan Pandal" link_text="Lecture on SB 2.3.18-19 -- Bombay, March 23, 1977, At Cross Maidan Pandal">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 2.3.18-19 -- Bombay, March 23, 1977, At Cross Maidan Pandal|Lecture on SB 2.3.18-19 -- Bombay, March 23, 1977, At Cross Maidan Pandal]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">They want to get the maximum comforts in this present life because they think conclusively that there is no life after death. This ignorance about the eternity of the living being and the change of covering in the material world has played havoc in the structure of modern human society. Consequently there are many problems, multiplied by various plans of modernized man. The plans for solving the problems of society have only aggravated the troubles. Even if it is possible to prolong life more than one hundred years, advancement of human civilization does not necessarily follow. The Bhāgavatam says that certain trees live for hundreds and thousands of years. At Vṛndāvana there is a tamarind tree (the place is known as Imlitala) which is said to have existed since the time of Lord Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB616BombayNovember61970_6" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="583" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.6 -- Bombay, November 6, 1970" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.6 -- Bombay, November 6, 1970">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.6 -- Bombay, November 6, 1970|Lecture on SB 6.1.6 -- Bombay, November 6, 1970]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Revatīnandana: But the śūdras have handsome bodily features also. In Amritsar the people have, I think, handsome bodily features.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, Aryan family, the structure of body... From the... There is a science called physiognomy. No? Yes. So it can be ascertained. But we have got forget all these material. We have to advance in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. This is white skin... So you have all taken your bath? So, give me little oil. I shall also take bath.</p>
<p>Devotee: What to do about a massage?</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB615662SuratJanuary31971atAdubhaiPatelsHouse_7" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="693" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.56-62 -- Surat, January 3, 1971, at Adubhai Patel's House" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.56-62 -- Surat, January 3, 1971, at Adubhai Patel's House">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.56-62 -- Surat, January 3, 1971, at Adubhai Patel's House|Lecture on SB 6.1.56-62 -- Surat, January 3, 1971, at Adubhai Patel's House]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Naxalite-ism. So all over the world. It is not only in India—all over the world. There cannot be peace unless you reform the whole social structure, and that can be done only by this movement, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Only by this movement. That's a fact, and it is being done.</p>
<p>So how this man fell down, it is said, that ekadāsau... Dadarśa kāminam. Kāmina, kāminam. Kāminam means lusty. The lusty people, they do like that. They do not care for society, do not care for elderly persons, do not care that "People will not like this." In the road, in the street, in the sea beach—anywhere—in the cinema. These things are very advertised in cinema nowadays to attract people. You see?</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB631215GorakhpurFebruary91971_8" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="720" link="Lecture on SB 6.3.12-15 -- Gorakhpur, February 9, 1971" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.3.12-15 -- Gorakhpur, February 9, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.3.12-15 -- Gorakhpur, February 9, 1971|Lecture on SB 6.3.12-15 -- Gorakhpur, February 9, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">And they saw... Gradually they degraded in their qualities, and they saw, "Why this class of men..." That is being protested still—who are known to be brāhmaṇas, they should go over everyone. "We are also qualified." Therefore, instead of cooperation there was misunderstanding, and the whole structure of Vedic society became dismantled. The whole Vedic society. They are simply now proud: "I am brāhmaṇa. I am kṣatriya."</p>
<p>But according to our Bhāgavata school or the Vedānta school... Bhāgavata is the Vedānta, you should always remember. Bhāṣyaṁ brahma-sūtrāṇām **. It is the right commentary on the Brahma-sūtra, Vedānta. So the falldown takes place not only of the brāhmaṇas, but also of the kṣatriyas, vaiśyas, and the śūdras. How the falldown takes place?</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB751PandalLectureBombayJanuary121973_9" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="727" link="Lecture on SB 7.5.1, Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, January 12, 1973" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.5.1, Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, January 12, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.5.1, Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, January 12, 1973|Lecture on SB 7.5.1, Pandal Lecture -- Bombay, January 12, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You chant Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra and you will realize that gradually you are advancing to meet Kṛṣṇa face to face. That is possible. Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare. (break)... still people are feeling some difficulty or some deficiency in the whole structure, and that deficiency can be fulfilled, can be satisfied by making people Kṛṣṇa conscious. This is the movement. So we have got ample literature. Not only Bhagavad-gītā, Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam—others. There are hundreds of literatures, and we have already published about twenty books like this. So we shall request... All the life members, they have got our books. Those who are not life members, I would request them to become life members, and we give you more than your money, books' worth.</p>
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<div id="LectureonSB7530MauritiusOctober21975_10" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="731" link="Lecture on SB 7.5.30 -- Mauritius, October 2, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.5.30 -- Mauritius, October 2, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.5.30 -- Mauritius, October 2, 1975|Lecture on SB 7.5.30 -- Mauritius, October 2, 1975]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Not the same body. Not the same body. (laughter)</p>
<p>Guest (2): No, not the same body. It is the same soul, and the body alters, you see, because the different stages, the structure... (French)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Brahmānanda, you come this side. Come this side. It is not the same body. When... When...</p>
<p>Guest (1): (French)</p>
<p>Guest (2): What he want to know, whether the end of the world...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, first of all his question is incarnation. (laughter) You don't talk big, big words. First of all let him understand what is his question. The question is that after death how he is incarnated. That he can understand from the present life. His childhood body is dead, and he still has got a body. This is incarnation.</p>
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<div id="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Lectures" text="Nectar of Devotion Lectures"><h3>Nectar of Devotion Lectures</h3>
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<div id="TheNectarofDevotionCalcuttaJanuary301973_0" class="quote" parent="Nectar_of_Devotion_Lectures" book="Lec" index="47" link="The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 30, 1973" link_text="The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 30, 1973">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 30, 1973|The Nectar of Devotion -- Calcutta, January 30, 1973]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bhavānanda: "In this connection, in the Third Canto of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, Chapter Twenty-five, verse 23, Kapiladeva has advised His mother, Devahūti, as follows: 'My dear mother, My pure devotees are charmed by seeing My different forms, the beauty of My face, the structure of My body so enchanting. My laughing, My pastimes and My glance appear to them so beautiful that their minds are always absorbed in thoughts of Me, and their lives are dedicated fully unto Me. Although such people do not desire any kind of liberation or any kind of material happiness, still, I give them a place amongst My associates in the supreme abode.' "</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Therefore this arcana-mārga, śrī-vigrahārādhana-nitya-nānā-śṛṅgāra-tan-mandira-mārj anādau yuktasya bhaktāṁś ca niyuñjato 'pi **. This is the first duty of the spiritual master, to engage the devotees in arcana-mārga. Śrī-vigrahārādhana-nitya. Cleansing the temple, dressing the Deity, decorating with flowers, ornaments and... So that devotees, as soon as (they) see smiling Kṛṣṇa, pleasing Kṛṣṇa, they become pleased. They become pleased by seeing Kṛṣṇa pleased. They do not want to be pleased independently. That is not devotee. Devotee's pleasure is seeing Kṛṣṇa is pleased.</p>
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<div id="Arrival_Addresses_and_Talks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Lectures" text="Arrival Addresses and Talks"><h3>Arrival Addresses and Talks</h3>
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<div id="ArrivalAddressParisJune81974_0" class="quote" parent="Arrival_Addresses_and_Talks" book="Lec" index="13" link="Arrival Address -- Paris, June 8, 1974" link_text="Arrival Address -- Paris, June 8, 1974">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Arrival Address -- Paris, June 8, 1974|Arrival Address -- Paris, June 8, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We have no brain, we are all not very intelligent. But we can understand if there is the active principle soul within this body, there must be a Supersoul within this huge structure of body. And that is called God. Mohitaṁ nābhijānāti mām ebhyaḥ param avyayam ([[Vanisource:BG 7.13 (1972)|BG 7.13]]). Those who are bewildered, narādhamāḥ. Narādhamāḥ, the lowest of the mankind. These things cannot be understood by the cats and dogs. Their body is constituted in such a way that they cannot think of there is an active principle within the body and there is active principle in this huge gigantic body. The cats and dogs cannot understand, but a human being can understand. And that active principle is Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa means all-attractive.</p>
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<div id="ArrivalLecturePhiladelphiaJuly111975_1" class="quote" parent="Arrival_Addresses_and_Talks" book="Lec" index="29" link="Arrival Lecture -- Philadelphia, July 11, 1975" link_text="Arrival Lecture -- Philadelphia, July 11, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Arrival Lecture -- Philadelphia, July 11, 1975|Arrival Lecture -- Philadelphia, July 11, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Even it is not realized... It is realized, but even if you say that they are not realized, but they are feeling ecstasy, that "We are all servant of Kṛṣṇa." That is wanted.</p>
<p>So despite artificial distinction... Just like a man's body and a female's body, woman's body, the bodily structure is different. How you can say they are equal? No. When you see the external structure of the body of man and woman, there is difference. But despite this difference, when the man and woman think in connection with Kṛṣṇa, they are equal. That is wanted. Our proposition is that artificially you do not try to make equality. That will be failure. It is already failure. Now how you can...? Just like I have seen in London, woman police.</p>
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<div id="ArrivalLecturePhiladelphiaJuly111975_2" class="quote" parent="Arrival_Addresses_and_Talks" book="Lec" index="29" link="Arrival Lecture -- Philadelphia, July 11, 1975" link_text="Arrival Lecture -- Philadelphia, July 11, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Arrival Lecture -- Philadelphia, July 11, 1975|Arrival Lecture -- Philadelphia, July 11, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">That I explained today. But we are trying to go above the distinction. But when I say that distinction is already there, they misunderstand that I am making distinction. I am not making distinction. That already there. Why a woman is differently dressed and a man is differently dressed? Why the structure of the body, woman, is different from the man? Why there is no equal right—I was yesterday talking—that woman also become pregnant and man also become pregnant? (chuckles) That distinction is there by nature. But if you come to the spiritual platform, then you will understand that "I am not this body. These distinction are on the bodily platform. I am spirit soul. My function is how to serve God." Then it is equality. It is clear thing. But because they do not understand that there is distinction between spirit and matter—they amalgamate or they have no brain that spirit is different from matter-therefore they think that I am making distinction. No.</p>
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<div id="General_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Lectures" text="General Lectures"><h3>General Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LecturetoTechnologyStudentsMITBostonMay51968_0" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="5" link="Lecture to Technology Students (M.I.T.) -- Boston, May 5, 1968" link_text="Lecture to Technology Students (M.I.T.) -- Boston, May 5, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture to Technology Students (M.I.T.) -- Boston, May 5, 1968|Lecture to Technology Students (M.I.T.) -- Boston, May 5, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Suppose you are seeing all along a friend. All of a sudden he dies and you say, "My friend is gone." Well, your friend is lying there with all the body, hands, legs, everything. He's lying there. Why do you say that your friend is gone? Then you have never seen your friend. You have seen only his bodily structure. That's all. Similarly, at the present moment the humanitarian work is going on, but we do not know what is the basic principle of humanitarian work. The Bhāgavata answers this: yasyātma-buddhiḥ kuṇape tri-dhātuke ([[Vanisource:SB 10.84.13|SB 10.84.13]]). A person who is in the knowledge that "I am this body and...," sva-dhīḥ kalatrādiṣu bhauma-ijya-dhīḥ, and if one thinks that "In relations with this body, my kinsmen, they will protect me," and if he thinks that "The land where the body is grown, that is the worshipable land," then he is, I mean to say, accepted like animal. Sa eva go-kharaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 10.84.13|SB 10.84.13]]).</p>
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<div id="SpeechtoIndianAudienceMontrealJuly281968_1" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="14" link="Speech to Indian Audience -- Montreal, July 28, 1968" link_text="Speech to Indian Audience -- Montreal, July 28, 1968">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Speech to Indian Audience -- Montreal, July 28, 1968|Speech to Indian Audience -- Montreal, July 28, 1968]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Now, if you put to this test of intelligent class of men, hardly you will find one in thousand or one in million. Therefore the present social structure is practically without any intelligent class of men, or without any head. At the present moment the whole society is going on by manufacturing some schemes that "This scheme will be successful for the proper execution of our human activities." But another man gives you another plan. Therefore in the political world there are so many "isms," and they are fighting with one another. That means there is no standard intelligence. I differ from you; you differ from me. Now, nobody knows who is intelligent. So by this analytical study we can understand that at the present moment there is need of intelligent class of men.</p>
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<div id="LectureatHarvardUniversityBostonDecember241969_2" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="66" link="Lecture at Harvard University -- Boston, December 24, 1969" link_text="Lecture at Harvard University -- Boston, December 24, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture at Harvard University -- Boston, December 24, 1969|Lecture at Harvard University -- Boston, December 24, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">You're talking about ātmā, and if one clearly has perception of the reality of their own ātmā, he would also see others as himself. Right? And to know his self and his God through others. But that doesn't really answer. It doesn't mean we'll be able to decrease that condition. A lot of people suffer in this world, and they suffer for pretty indefiable(?) reasons: economic exploitation, racists trying to put structures, militaristic powers. And it seems somehow we might be able to do something to attack those kinds of evils and suffering in the world, other than telling a man to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and the world will be solved.</p>
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<div id="LectureonTeachingsofLordCaitanyaBombayMarch171971_3" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="77" link="Lecture on Teachings of Lord Caitanya -- Bombay, March 17, 1971" link_text="Lecture on Teachings of Lord Caitanya -- Bombay, March 17, 1971">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on Teachings of Lord Caitanya -- Bombay, March 17, 1971|Lecture on Teachings of Lord Caitanya -- Bombay, March 17, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">There is risk. Yaṁ yaṁ vāpi smaran loke tyajaty ([[Vanisource:BG 8.6 (1972)|BG 8.6]]), at the time of death everything will be examined. What are you going to be next? You have to accept another body. So that body will be created in this life. Yaṁ yaṁ vāpi and that bodily structure will be formed at the time of your death. Just like if you leave this apartment, you'll have to go another apartment. So you have to select another apartment, good or bad. That will depend on your capacity, how much rent you are able to pay. Then you leave this apartment. Similarly, at the time of death by the superior arrangement, another apartment will be given to you, and immediately that is settled up, you leave this body and enter into that body. Daiva-netreṇa, karmaṇā daiva-netreṇa ([[Vanisource:SB 3.31.1|SB 3.31.1]]).</p>
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<div id="Philosophy_Discussions" class="sub_section" sec_index="13" parent="Lectures" text="Philosophy Discussions"><h3>Philosophy Discussions</h3>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononGottfriedWilhelmvonLeibnitz_0" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="1" link="Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz|Philosophy Discussion on Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Just like you can explain how the snow is formed-the molecular structure of the water, and how they become compact by temperature...</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: He says that everything goes by steps in nature, and not by leaps. In other words, there is a law of continuity,  like there are no gaps in nature. Everything is gradual. There is a gradual differentiation.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. There are two ways-gradual and immediate also. Of course, in one sense... (break) ...little force, it goes quickly. The ball has no power. So wonderful things are happening in the material nature due to the will of the Supreme. Everything happening is the same process; it is undergoing the process, but the method, pushed by God, it takes automatically. Just like He created this material nature. It is in the beginning nonmanifest, then gradually it grows three qualities, and by the interaction of qualities so many things come out—the sky comes, and as soon as the sky comes out, there is sound; sound comes, as soon as sound has come out, the ear comes; the controller of the ear comes..., so many things—one after another, one after another, one after another. So the pushing is so perfect that all other things come automatically in perfect order. But foolish people, they are thinking that things are coming automatically out of it, without any background.</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononCharlesDarwin_1" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="5" link="Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin|Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. That they prove by so-called... That's why the cancer... The example of that mutation is the cancer cell. They try to find out how cancer is caused in the body. They say that somehow the cell has been changed, and they say that it has been done by mutation, so they try to prove it in the laboratory by changing the structure of the cell, and that is called mutation. So they say why the cancer is formed because cancer is an abnormal cell, this is a normal cell. In answering why these elements are formed from these basic four chemicals-carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen and oxygen—they try, they say that somehow this nitrogen and hydrogen, they combine forming ammonia. That is called ammonia, from nitrogen and hydrogen. They say somehow this has formed, and somehow, by combination of hydrogen and oxygen, water is formed. And somehow by combination of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen, these so-called carbohydrates, or these are formed. But they say somehow these are formed, but they do not know how it is formed.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: But all that Darwin is interested in is in the evolution of species: how one type of body evolves to the other type due to the changing conditions, and that because he has evolved a certain body he is best adapted to survive in that condition so that his species survives. So the scientists have shown that by bombarding the cosmic radiation or radioactive elements, that a gene or cell can change, mutate, so a different kind of animal comes out. From one kind of mother a different kind of animal comes out.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But we say that different kind of animal is not beyond these 8,400,000 species.</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononCharlesDarwin_2" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="5" link="Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin|Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: ...research. They found that atomic particles vibrate at a certain frequency, a certain rate of vibration, and that elements such as lead, iron, all the different chemical elements, disintegrate gradually. The atomic particles vibrate out of the element and change the structure of the element gradually, and this is a constant—what they call—life of the element, and the constant number of years before it disintegrates into some other element. So this life they have measured, and they have a table or a chart, and by this half-life formula they can determine how old a rock is by how quickly the isotopes are disintegrating. So according to their calculation, the layers of the earth go down for many millions of years; and in those lower layers, millions of years old, there is either no form of life or very, very simple forms of life only. There is no evidence of any complex forms.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Bolo... (Bengali—to Svarūpa Dāmodara)</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononCharlesDarwin_3" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="5" link="Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin|Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, maybe older, but it does not give the exact age. We do not know.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: But the point is that they have determined that there are rock structures in the earth very, very, very, very old and that these contain no evidence of any complex forms of life. So that if there is a statement that there were higher forms of life millions of years ago existing on this planet, there has been no evidence ever found of that.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So why they're trying to find out evidence from the rocks, not from any other source?</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Well as civilizations come and go, they leave remains, evidence behind of their...</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononCharlesDarwin_4" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="5" link="Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin|Philosophy Discussion on Charles Darwin]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: They can produce for human being, many (indistinct)?</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: They call it the genetical xerox machine.</p>
<p>Karandhara: They can analyze someone's genes. Say they take my genes and analyze their chemical structure. They can reproduce that structure and make a hundred me's, just like me—the same brain, the same body, the same mentality, everything.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That's all right. But who made you? Just like I have written one letter; you can make a hundred copies. But I have written the letter. Similarly, there may be hundreds of copies of your personality, but who made you?</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononJohnDewey_5" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="10" link="Philosophy Discussion on John Dewey" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on John Dewey">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on John Dewey|Philosophy Discussion on John Dewey]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: His idea is that the problems of philosophy are rooted in social conditions, so that we should... Urgent social reform is required in order to solve the problems of philosophy. By changing social structures through education, then the problems of philosophy will be solved.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Therefore we take the standard method. Just like this varṇāśrama method-standard. We maintain it and there will be no trouble in the society. Actually, there is natural division. The intelligent class of men, the administrative class of men, the production class of men and the laborer class of men, that is prevailing all over the world. That is no doubt. But they are not doing their duty. The brāhmaṇas, the intelligent class of men, they are not following these strictly the principles, satya, śama, dama, titikṣava. Similarly the administrative class, they are not following the strictly the rules and regulations. Therefore it is fallen.</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononMartinHeidegger_6" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="13" link="Philosophy Discussion on Martin Heidegger" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Martin Heidegger">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Martin Heidegger|Philosophy Discussion on Martin Heidegger]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: Nothingness, that anxiety and despair.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Therefore we can (indistinct).</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Because people like that, they see the world as lacking any supporting structure. There's no meaning. So then tomorrow we'll begin to see how he strives toward giving meaning to it, this nothing; how something comes out of it. (break) So we'll finish up Heidegger today and start on one other philosopher. Yesterday we were talking about Heidegger's (German-indistinct) or "being there," and he says that truth is the revealment of the understanding of being there.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Without being, how there can be truth? To be is truth. "I am," this is truth. I exist, that is truth. If I don't exist, then where is truth?</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononLudwigWittgenstein_7" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="14" link="Philosophy Discussion on Ludwig Wittgenstein" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Ludwig Wittgenstein">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Ludwig Wittgenstein|Philosophy Discussion on Ludwig Wittgenstein]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: What is the process of showing?</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: By language, that our structure of language must be logically complete and that it must also be able to be seen or it cannot be said. Whatever cannot be shown cannot be said either.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then logically complete... Suppose I have my father, I've seen my father, or I've seen my grandfather, or I've seen my great-grandfather, but because I cannot see the father of great-grandfather does not mean that there was no great-grandfather. Logically it is real, that the father of my great-grandfather was also a human being, he had two hands, two legs, and one head. That is logical, even though I have not seen. What is illogical? So it does not mean that things which we sometimes do not see, it is not logical. You cannot say like that. Because they are not seen, that is also logical.</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononEdmundHusserl_8" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="16" link="Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl|Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Then what is his study? Color green everyone is seeing. So what is his specific purpose of studying?</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: By studying the appearance of the leaf, the phenomenon, its nature or its essence will become self-evident—why the leaf is structured in a certain way, what is the...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: (indistinct) How you can know the structure of this leaf, why it is green some portion, why it is yellow, why there are stem, how it comes...? Do you mean to say that these things should automatically come if I speculate on this?</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: That is his contention.</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononEdmundHusserl_9" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="16" link="Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl|Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: Any human living entity, human entity, can follow the same process if he's intelligent. Anyways, to proceed: it says that after this phenomenal, logical reduction, the residue or the essence of the thing which remains is characterized in a threefold structure. In other words, after you analyze one phenomenon, you could use certain essences of that phenomenon. Those essences are composed of three things.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Three dimensions.</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononEdmundHusserl_10" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="16" link="Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl|Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Three dimensions.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: In a way three dimensions. The first one is the phenomenological ego. He says first of all that there are two egos—there is the phenomenological ego and the transcendental ego—what we would call the jīvātmā and the Supersoul. The phenomenological ego is the psychological or empirical ego, which is found in the passing stream of consciousness, or the false ego: the ego that identifies with the events and the stream of events of day-to-day life in this world—what I think I am. And the transcendental ego is the observer behind that stream of consciousness. But his idea is that, still down on this phenomenological level, the phenomenological ego deals with appearances as an activity—that is, cogitates upon appearances which we've passed through by perception. These objects pass through my perception. My phenomenological ego cogitates on those objects and gives what I call the world a structure.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That means he knows that he has got another vision.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl|Philosophy Discussion on Edmund Husserl]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes. Without intent, how we can act?</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: So this is the second part of the structure of the phenomenological understanding of things, the...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But that intention are two kinds. Just like a man works for himself and then he works for others. When I am alone, I work for myself, but when I am married, I work for my wife, my children. So the intentions are two kinds. So which one is better intention? That is also to be studied.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: In this way, just like you have just given the example, that is how he wants to study phenomenon, like that.</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononSigmundFreud_12" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="17" link="Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud|Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Knowledge will come later on. But in the beginning, "must"; otherwise he will not (indistinct). Even if there is no knowledge, if by the order of the spiritual master or superior, you must do it.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Freud's idea, being as he came from the Victorian age, when there was straight restraint of sex desire by the social structure, was that if you tell a child, "Don't look at a woman. Don't look at a woman," that this will...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We don't say like that—"Don't look at a woman." Here is a woman sitting, I am looking. Does this mean immediately you become polluted?</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: What they say is that there is a conflict between a man's natural desire to enjoy women...</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud|Philosophy Discussion on Sigmund Freud]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No.</p>
<p>Devotee (2): They have studied subsequently primitive tribes and they have found that these neuroses were not there. They only existed in the social structure of Victorian Europe.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Therefore this is the conclusion—that if you put children in right association, they will go rightly, and if you put them in wrong association, they will go wrongly. They have no independent psychology.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Perhaps his one contribution was that he said that behavior must be understood in terms of a person's whole life history, in the total...</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononCarlGustavJung_14" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="18" link="Philosophy Discussion on Carl Gustav Jung" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Carl Gustav Jung">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Carl Gustav Jung|Philosophy Discussion on Carl Gustav Jung]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Self-centered.</p>
<p>Devotees: Self-centered, yes.</p>
<p>Devotee (5): An extrovert is also self-centered, he keeps himself in the center of a large social structure. He only considers his own personality without interacting with others.</p>
<p>Devotee (3): One has more or less one or the other...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But how do you say that man is a social animal? How can you avoid society?</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: An introvert doesn't avoid society, but in all his activities he doesn't relate to others actively. He'll go to school, he goes to the things that he has to do, but he's always very quiet and timid, shy.</p>
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<div id="PhilosophyDiscussiononJeanPaulSartre_15" class="quote" parent="Philosophy_Discussions" book="Lec" index="19" link="Philosophy Discussion on Jean-Paul Sartre" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Jean-Paul Sartre">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Jean-Paul Sartre|Philosophy Discussion on Jean-Paul Sartre]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Why it is not thing?</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Because the structure is not determinant. It is always changing. On both sides there is nothing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Changing is the mind, not the person. Changing positions is of the mind. So he is identifying the person with the mind; therefore he is not a perfect philosopher.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: He says that this objective being, like these objects, he calls it "being in itself," and only these concrete phenomena are real. But he says these concrete phenomena are more than their phenomenal appearances. Just like this thing is more than what it appears to be, but it is no more than the sum total of all its appearances. In other words, this thing may appear like this, but it is more than this; it is all of its possible appearances, from the time it was clay, to the time the paint was applied, different things, in all its appearances, that is the reality of this thing. It is not just this thing; it is all of its appearances. But that is all. There is nothing more than that. It doesn't have any reality beyond its phenomenal appearances.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Jean-Paul Sartre|Philosophy Discussion on Jean-Paul Sartre]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: He says that opposite to this objective being is the subjective individual, which he calls "being for itself." And he says that the nature of this subjective individual is that it is incomplete, it has potency, but the structure is indeterminant. There is no mass or no density. These things all have density and mass—they are heavy, gross—but the "being for itself," or the subjective individual, has no mass or density.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is like the sense and sense objects. Just like we have got the senses smelling. This is concrete. But the smell is not concrete.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: Subtle.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Jean-Paul Sartre|Philosophy Discussion on Jean-Paul Sartre]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: He says that the structure of man's essence, his consciousness, is freedom. He is continually free to change as he chooses.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: As soon as you say freedom, it is freedom of some living being. Matter has no freedom. So as soon as you speak of freedom, that freedom must be a living being. A huge mountain, dead mountain, or any dead body, it has no freedom. It is lying down. You keep it with some chemical process and the body will remain lying down, just like the Egyptian mummies, there are so many. So it has lost its freedom because the active principle is not there. As soon as you say of freedom, the freedom is only applicable to a living being, not to the matter. Matter has no freedom.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: He says that matter is something and that the living being is nothing.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Karl Marx|Philosophy Discussion on Karl Marx]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda:Impossible. It will simply react and there will be another revolution.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: So first you have to change the mentality and then the social structure will change.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Unless I am trained up to think that I do not possess anything, everything belongs to the State... But it is very difficult to change. Simply nonsense.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: But they think like that.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They think but (indistinct) utopian, that is another thing. But, so...</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: They're all... Yes, this is an example. There was one woman, who was in charge of the, a maid in that hotel. Although she must have known from childhood that that hotel belongs to the state, the foodstuff belongs to the state, everything belongs to the state, still she had proprietorship, false proprietorship over her kitchen, that kitchen. She would not allow us into that kitchen.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Just see.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Mao Tse Tung|Philosophy Discussion on Mao Tse Tung]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Śyāmasundara: But he examines his theory, and he sees that the nature of his theory or the nature of things is this conflict. This is the nature of things.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That we have already talked; there is conflict. Conflict is going on.</p>
<p>Śyāmasundara: So he says that there are two types of conflict in social structure. One is between communists and their enemies, such as the U.S. imperialists; and those within the Communist party itself.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So... There... In communism... That means there are enemies. However perfect you may be, you have got enemies. Outside, inside both. Then what is your perfection?</p>
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