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 <p>Like that. He says that mattaḥ parataram: "There is no more superior, supramental or Supreme Personality..." As you say supramental, it is with reference to a person. Just like Aurobindo, supramental. That means it is with reference to the Aurobindo person. Is it not? Any mental. As you say, "mental," it is with reference to a person.</p>
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 <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor, other Guests and Disciples -- February 12, 1975, Mexico|Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor, other Guests and Disciples -- February 12, 1975, Mexico]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Gandhi was a politician. What does he know about dharma? He was a politician. He thought it wise that British government is very strong... Before him so many political parties tried to become violent, and they were all curbed down. This Aurobindo also was a leader of anarchist party, and when he was condemned to death, then his senses came: "This is all useless. Let me engage in performing yoga." So Gandhi thought that before him all these violent movement was cast down by the British. So he took it as a method, nonviolence, noncooperation, and to capture the public of India-India is generally inclined religiously—he became a mahātmā. But mahātmā is different. A mahātmā is not interested in politics.</p>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1971 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1971 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationJanuary171971Allahabad_0" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="2" link="Room Conversation -- January 17, 1971, Allahabad" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 17, 1971, Allahabad">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 17, 1971, Allahabad|Room Conversation -- January 17, 1971, Allahabad]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Vivekananda has influence here in higher class, among the educated class. They talk about Vivekananda and this and that, nonsense. In your country, fortunately, that opposition was not there. There was no influence of Vivekananda class men. Here amongst the educated class there is influence of all these rascals, Vivekananda, Aurobindo, and... That is one defect.</p>
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<div id="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="6" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1973 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkFebruary281973Jakarta_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="5" link="Morning Walk -- February 28, 1973, Jakarta" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 28, 1973, Jakarta">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 28, 1973, Jakarta|Morning Walk -- February 28, 1973, Jakarta]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: All these yogis, everything, they do like that. Mahesh Yogi also: "Take my mantra. Within six months you become perfect man and whatever you like, you can do."</p>
<p>Devotee (3): Ha ha. No restrictions.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No. There is business only. Why there should be restrictions? Everyone does so, beginning from Vivekananda, Aurobindo, everyone. Aurobindo also used to say that you haven't got to do anything, you simply think of me, just like Kṛṣṇa says: "Simply think of Me."</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril291973LosAngeles_1" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="18" link="Morning Walk -- April 29, 1973, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 29, 1973, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 29, 1973, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- April 29, 1973, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: In India, what is going on as "Hindu dharma," it is a bogus thing. It has no meaning. Just like this Ramakrishna Mission, this Vivekananda, this Aurobindo, this Mahesh Yogi, so many others, all bogus. Anyone who is not going in terms of the Caitanya Mahāprabhu's cult or His teaching, he's a bogus. Anyone. Not only in India, all over the world. At the present moment, the real, transcendental spiritual life means to follow the cult of instructions of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Otherwise, everyone is bogus. They're simply wasting their time. They have no knowledge of spiritual life.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndianGuestOctober41973Bombay_2" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="79" link="Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay|Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: That is my..., that this experience... You have got some experience, I have got some experience and another has experience. But so far you are talking of Bhagavad-gītā... Because you say that Aurobindo has written on the Bhagavad-gītā. The Bhagavad-gītā says, in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, Kṛṣṇa says:</p>
:mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat
:kiñcid asti dhanañjaya
:mayi sarvam idaṁ protaṁ
:sūtre maṇi-gaṇā iva
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<p>Like that. He says that mattaḥ parataram: "There is no more superior, supramental or Supreme Personality..." As you say supramental, it is with reference to a person. Just like Aurobindo, supramental. That means it is with reference to the Aurobindo person. Is it not? Any mental. As you say, "mental," it is with reference to a person.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndianGuestOctober41973Bombay_3" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="79" link="Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay|Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guest (1): As long as he's evolving and I'm evolving separately...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, yes.</p>
<p>Guest (1): As individual...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No...,</p>
<p>Guest (1): ...because we are individualized.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But do you think that Aurobindo's mental condition or your mental condition, the same?</p>
<p>Guest (1): No.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then here is higher and lower.</p>
<p>Guest (1): No, no.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Why "no"? One time you say, "No..." No, no, this is contradictory.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndianGuestOctober41973Bombay_4" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="79" link="Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay|Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Guest (1): When there is a world of ānanda, a new type of world...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But...</p>
<p>Guest (1): ...as animals...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That is, that is an expectation. That will never become. As you believe in Aurobindo, "When there will be," we say, "In the material world, there will be no such thing."</p>
<p>Guest (1): The Lord will be minus then, if He cannot create a...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, Lord is not minus.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithIndianGuestOctober41973Bombay_5" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="79" link="Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay|Room Conversation with Indian Guest -- October 4, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: So as soon as you have to take birth, you have to die. Just like Aurobindo took birth; he died. Everyone. Everyone, even Brahmā. It may be a long duration or a small duration. That doesn't matter. Everyone. That is the perfectional knowledge, how to solve this birth and death problem.</p>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkFebruary171974Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="21" link="Morning Walk -- February 17, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 17, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 17, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- February 17, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Now taking too much, too much taking in political part. Aurobindo, Aurobindo, he was a politician.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Great politician. He was a humanist also.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, but he left. "This is no good." I must take to yoga practice.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch271974Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="47" link="Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 27, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: My wife... I admit she's very nice lady. But I did not like her. (break) ...if he becomes so, he cannot become Aurobindo Ghosh. If he becomes attached to the wife up to the point of death, he never becomes Aurobindo Ghosh.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkApril181974Bombay_2" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="66" link="Morning Walk -- April 18, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 18, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 18, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 18, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Dr. Patel: English medium, the intelligence gets baffled because it is not a mother language.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Aurobindo Ghosh studied English from the very beginning.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: But he was extremely clever. He studied then Gujarati, not even Bengali. After he came from England...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He came to Gujarati. No. He came to Baroda.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationJune51974Geneva_3" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="99" link="Room Conversation -- June 5, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation -- June 5, 1974, Geneva">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- June 5, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation -- June 5, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Swiss Man (1): Have you been in connection with Aurobindo?</p>
<p>Yogeśvara: Have we been in contact with Aurobindo, Śrī Aurobindo?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Why? Why I shall be in contact, Aurobindo?</p>
<p>Swiss Man (1): Because he's... We know in (indistinct).</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He does not know better than Kṛṣṇa. So one association is sufficient. There is no need of going this Aurobindo, Saurobindo. We never... Why should we waste our time? We have got sufficient education in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. First of all let us finish these hundred books of four hundred pages. Then we shall see what Aurobindo writes. We don't think anyone can speak better than Kṛṣṇa. That is admitted.</p>
<p>Yogeśvara: (translates)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Aurobindo was... Aurobindo, Vivekananda, they started talking something in the Western world hundred years ago. But not a single man became Kṛṣṇa devotee.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationJune51974Geneva_4" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="99" link="Room Conversation -- June 5, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation -- June 5, 1974, Geneva">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- June 5, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation -- June 5, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: These Aurobindos or Vivekanandas and Gandhis, they have spoiled Hindu culture. Vedic culture they have spoiled. Hodgepodge writing, hodgepodge speaking, dry speaking, speculation-choked up the progress of Vedic civilization. Now here is some hope. People are now taking it. Now, did I say wrong, that "Why shall I go to Aurobindo?"</p>
<p>Nitāi: You never say wrong. (laughs) All of your answers were right, great.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I have got better instruction than Aurobindo. Why shall I go to Aurobindo, waste my time? People don't know anything. Nobody has become a devotee of Kṛṣṇa in reading Aurobindo's literature. And here, as soon as they saw our literature, immediately police officer said, "Oh, you are so high." Immediately. Where is the record, the professors and universities eager to purchase Aurobindo's book and Vivekananda's books? There is no record. But here they are eager "All sixty books, please, sir." "All twelve books, please, sir."</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithRobertGouiranNuclearPhysicistfromEuropeanCenterforNuclearResearchJune51974Geneva_5" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="100" link="Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Yes, you come to Vṛndāvana. We have got nice place there, and we shall accommodate you. Real spiritual life you'll find in Vṛndāvana, in Navadvīpa. We have got places... In Navadvīpa also we have got very big building, and Vṛndāvana. These are recognized.</p>
<p>Robert Gouiran: But where is it?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Actually... First of all, thing is that what is your point of view for visiting these Aurobindos and Maharshi Raman and what others?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithRogerMarialeadingwriterofcommunistliteratureJune121974Paris_6" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="112" link="Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Pṛthu Putra: He says he choose Radhakrishnan, he choose all the seigneur...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But they, all of them...</p>
<p>Pṛthu Putra: He reject Aurobindo...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: I understand. All of them, they make center Kṛṣṇa. So why not take Kṛṣṇa? (French) Now this Ramakrishna said, "I am the same Kṛṣṇa." So if we give respect to Ramakrishna because of his being the same Kṛṣṇa, why not go to the same Kṛṣṇa directly?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithRogerMarialeadingwriterofcommunistliteratureJune121974Paris_7" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="112" link="Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Yogeśvara: He says Ramakrishna, whether he knew it or not, he was expressing a sentiment of the people at that time.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: At that time. That is finished. So that is not permanent settlement. But Kṛṣṇa's, Kṛṣṇa's, I mean to say, supremacy, at least for the last five thousand years, is intact. Now, he says Aurobindo, Gandhi, Ramakrishna. They're all gone. They came and gone. But Kṛṣṇa philosophy is truth, and it is standing, and it will go on standing.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithRogerMarialeadingwriterofcommunistliteratureJune121974Paris_8" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="112" link="Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Pṛthu Putra: He says it's not the person important in this example. It's the idea they was expressing, all from five thousand years. The same idea was there.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, same idea. Kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam: ([[Vanisource:SB 1.3.28|SB 1.3.28]]) "Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead." That idea is accepted.</p>
<p>Karandhara: No, he's saying that Aurobindo and Ramakrishna expressed that same idea in contemporary language in their own time.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So that existed temporarily. Now it is gone. That will not appeal.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithRogerMarialeadingwriterofcommunistliteratureJune121974Paris_9" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="112" link="Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with Roger Maria leading writer of communist literature -- June 12, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Pṛthu Putra: He received information that to follow, with some interest, that to follow what Kṛṣṇa says and like that, we can solve problems. (French) And personally, he respects you.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Thank you. That's all right. But thing is that we must know that he has spoken about Ramakrishna and Aurobindo. They also center their propaganda on Kṛṣṇa. Just like I already told. Ramakrishna said, "I am the same Krishna." That means he takes to Kṛṣṇa. Aurobindo, he has written "Life Divine." That is his explanation of Bhagavad-gītā. He takes to Kṛṣṇa. This Maharishi, he has also presented Bhagavad-gītā; he (has) taken to Kṛṣṇa. So their importance is by taking to Kṛṣṇa. Otherwise, they are valueless, nobody.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithProfessorOliverLaCombeDirectoroftheSorbonneUniversityJune141974Paris_10" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="117" link="Room Conversation with Professor Oliver La Combe Director of the Sorbonne University -- June 14, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with Professor Oliver La Combe Director of the Sorbonne University -- June 14, 1974, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Professor Oliver La Combe Director of the Sorbonne University -- June 14, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with Professor Oliver La Combe Director of the Sorbonne University -- June 14, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee: Also you told us in India about Aurobindo and Ramakrishna. Aurobindo went also. Aurobindo, when that French woman came, he also fell to her, but just to cover it up he has called her "Mother" because in India, when you call someone "Mother..."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, everyone knows he is mother and he is father.</p>
<p>Devotee: Yeah, right. And they don't think... There is no question of sex. When they think of mother and father, they don't think of these things. Also with Ramakrishna. He also had his divine mother. You told us a story in Calcutta that he was very debauched. In a village he used to chase the young women. And his brother actually made him famous.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: It is very difficult to, not to be victimized by woman. It is very difficult.</p>
<p>Yogeśvara: Unless you are victimized by Kṛṣṇa first.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. One who is, I means, what is called, captivated by the beauty of Kṛṣṇa, then he is not victimized.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithdevoteesaboutTwelfthCantoKaliyugaandConversationwithGuestJune151974Paris_11" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="119" link="Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris" link_text="Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris|Room Conversation with devotees about Twelfth Canto Kali-yuga, and Conversation with Guest -- June 15, 1974, Paris]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Oh, you live in India?</p>
<p>Madame Siaude: Yeah, in the French part of, far eastern state, in Pondicherry.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Pondicherry?</p>
<p>Madame Siaude: Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh, Aurobindo's place.</p>
<p>Madame Siaude: Yes, I have been there a long time.</p>
<p>Jyotirmayī: And she was studying with M. Laconde, this gentleman who came yesterday. She's very much studying Rāmānujācārya, Madhvācārya...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm. Vaiṣṇava philosophy.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationAugust121975PariswithFrenchtranslator_12" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="144" link="Room Conversation -- August 12, 1975, Paris (with French translator)" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 12, 1975, Paris (with French translator)">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 12, 1975, Paris (with French translator)|Room Conversation -- August 12, 1975, Paris (with French translator)]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bhagavān: They have said that this Aurobindo copy, this is almost out of print now.</p>
<p>Devotee (1): There is no edition of Bhagavad-gītā like your edition ever in France. This is the first time.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Aurobindo is hodgepodge. It is simply vocabulary. No concrete contribution. Simply words. Tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet (MU 1.2.12). In order to learn the science, one must go to the bona fide guru. Otherwise it is not possible.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithSanskritProfessorotherGuestsandDisciplesFebruary121975Mexico_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="5" link="Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor, other Guests and Disciples -- February 12, 1975, Mexico" link_text="Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor, other Guests and Disciples -- February 12, 1975, Mexico">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor, other Guests and Disciples -- February 12, 1975, Mexico|Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor, other Guests and Disciples -- February 12, 1975, Mexico]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Gandhi was a politician. What does he know about dharma? He was a politician. He thought it wise that British government is very strong... Before him so many political parties tried to become violent, and they were all curbed down. This Aurobindo also was a leader of anarchist party, and when he was condemned to death, then his senses came: "This is all useless. Let me engage in performing yoga." So Gandhi thought that before him all these violent movement was cast down by the British. So he took it as a method, nonviolence, noncooperation, and to capture the public of India-India is generally inclined religiously—he became a mahātmā. But mahātmā is different. A mahātmā is not interested in politics.</p>
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