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	<div id="BG729_0" class="quote" parent="BG_Chapters_7_-_12" book="BG" index="29" link="BG 7.29" link_text="BG 7.29">		<div id="BG729_0" class="quote" parent="BG_Chapters_7_-_12" book="BG" index="29" link="BG 7.29" link_text="BG 7.29">
	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG 7.29\|BG 7.29, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Intelligent persons who are endeavoring for liberation from old age and death take refuge in Me in devotional service. They are actually Brahman because they entirely know everything about transcendental activities.</p>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG 7.29 (1972)\|BG 7.29, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Intelligent persons who are endeavoring for liberation from old age and death take refuge in Me in devotional service. They are actually Brahman because they entirely know everything about transcendental activities.</p>
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	<div class="purport text"><p>Birth, death, old age and diseases affect this material body, but not the spiritual body. There is no birth, death, old age and disease for the spiritual body, so one who attains a spiritual body, becomes one of the associates of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and engages in eternal devotional service is really liberated. Ahaṁ brahmāsmi: I am spirit. It is said that one should understand that he is Brahman, spirit soul. This Brahman conception of life is also in devotional service, as described in this verse. The pure devotees are transcendentally situated on the Brahman platform, and they know everything about transcendental activities.</p>		<div class="purport text"><p>Birth, death, old age and diseases affect this material body, but not the spiritual body. There is no birth, death, old age and disease for the spiritual body, so one who attains a spiritual body, becomes one of the associates of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and engages in eternal devotional service is really liberated. Ahaṁ brahmāsmi: I am spirit. It is said that one should understand that he is Brahman, spirit soul. This Brahman conception of life is also in devotional service, as described in this verse. The pure devotees are transcendentally situated on the Brahman platform, and they know everything about transcendental activities.</p>
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	<div id="LectureonSB32626BombayJanuary31975_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="486" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.26 -- Bombay, January 3, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.26 -- Bombay, January 3, 1975">		<div id="LectureonSB32626BombayJanuary31975_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="486" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.26 -- Bombay, January 3, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.26 -- Bombay, January 3, 1975">
	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.26 -- Bombay, January 3, 1975\|Lecture on SB 3.26.26 -- Bombay, January 3, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Na jāyate na mriyate vā kadācit, na hanyate hanya... They do... These things do not strike even their dull brain, that "If ātmā... I am ātmā. I am the soul. I do not die even after the annihilation of this body. But that means I will have to accept another body. But is this very good job? Why not seek after our original position, when there is no more change of body?" This question does not arise even. But it is very easy. For that reason, Bhagavad-gītā is there. Everyone can avoid this birth and death. That is the business of human life, how to stop... Jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya. Vīta-rāga-bhaya-krodhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.56\|BG 2.56]]). Everything is there. This is the aim of life. But not... We are under this false ego, "I am this body." And some of us in the modes of goodness... That is also another kind of bondage: "I am brāhmaṇa. I am very learned scholar." But... That's all right, but still you have to go further, above the brahminical stage, not simply become proud of having nice birth, full of knowledge and learning. That is not sufficient. The learning should be perfect. What is that perfect learning? That vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 15.15\|BG 15.15]]). If you are actually learned, if you are proud of becoming vedāntī or knowledge in Vedānta, then you must be aware of Kṛṣṇa. Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ.</p>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.26 -- Bombay, January 3, 1975\|Lecture on SB 3.26.26 -- Bombay, January 3, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Na jāyate na mriyate vā kadācit, na hanyate hanya... They do... These things do not strike even their dull brain, that "If ātmā... I am ātmā. I am the soul. I do not die even after the annihilation of this body. But that means I will have to accept another body. But is this very good job? Why not seek after our original position, when there is no more change of body?" This question does not arise even. But it is very easy. For that reason, Bhagavad-gītā is there. Everyone can avoid this birth and death. That is the business of human life, how to stop... Jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya. Vīta-rāga-bhaya-krodhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.56 (1972)\|BG 2.56]]). Everything is there. This is the aim of life. But not... We are under this false ego, "I am this body." And some of us in the modes of goodness... That is also another kind of bondage: "I am brāhmaṇa. I am very learned scholar." But... That's all right, but still you have to go further, above the brahminical stage, not simply become proud of having nice birth, full of knowledge and learning. That is not sufficient. The learning should be perfect. What is that perfect learning? That vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 15.15 (1972)\|BG 15.15]]). If you are actually learned, if you are proud of becoming vedāntī or knowledge in Vedānta, then you must be aware of Kṛṣṇa. Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ.</p>
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	<div id="RoomConversationwithBankerSeptember211973Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="77" link="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay">		<div id="RoomConversationwithBankerSeptember211973Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="77" link="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay">
	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay\|Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Banker: Correct. You are not talking about the physical.</p>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay\|Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Banker: Correct. You are not talking about the physical.</p>
	<p>Prabhupāda: Ah. Physical is my outward dress. Just like your coat, if it becomes old enough, there is no more possibility to use it. You have to throw it away. You have to take another coat. Similarly, physically, I am spirit soul. When my physical body is old enough, useless, then I will have to give it up. I will have to accept another new body. But the question is that I am eternal; why I am forced to accept a body which will be useless after some time? That is the problem. I am eternal, as spirit soul. Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20\|BG 2.20]]). I do not die after the annihilation of this body. But why I am forced to accept another body, which will be annihilated? This technology is unknown all over the world. And still they are proud of becoming very advanced in science. (Aside:) Open this. Let them come. Keep it open. Janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi-duḥkha-doṣānu... ([[Vanisource:BG 13.9\|BG 13.9]]). Come forward. (break) ...technology, although it is a problem. But we can supply this technology, to solve this problem. Jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya mām... Jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya. (break) ...modern technologist, scientists, they do not know what is the perfection of life. Now, they are thinking that having a big building, possessing big building, and possessing a few cars and nice bank balance, that is perfection of life. But suppose you get a very nice home, very nice big bank balance, and other amenities. But there is every possibility that as soon as you prepare all these things, you have to go away immediately, death. There is no guarantee that "After finishing this job, I shall be able to enjoy these things." At any moment you can be asked, "Get out." So this labor, so much labor for creating nice residential quarters, bank balance, and others, that is my futile labor because I could not enjoy it. Therefore this is not perfection of life.</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: Ah. Physical is my outward dress. Just like your coat, if it becomes old enough, there is no more possibility to use it. You have to throw it away. You have to take another coat. Similarly, physically, I am spirit soul. When my physical body is old enough, useless, then I will have to give it up. I will have to accept another new body. But the question is that I am eternal; why I am forced to accept a body which will be useless after some time? That is the problem. I am eternal, as spirit soul. Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20 (1972)\|BG 2.20]]). I do not die after the annihilation of this body. But why I am forced to accept another body, which will be annihilated? This technology is unknown all over the world. And still they are proud of becoming very advanced in science. (Aside:) Open this. Let them come. Keep it open. Janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi-duḥkha-doṣānu... ([[Vanisource:BG 13.8-12 (1972)\|BG 13.9]]). Come forward. (break) ...technology, although it is a problem. But we can supply this technology, to solve this problem. Jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya mām... Jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya. (break) ...modern technologist, scientists, they do not know what is the perfection of life. Now, they are thinking that having a big building, possessing big building, and possessing a few cars and nice bank balance, that is perfection of life. But suppose you get a very nice home, very nice big bank balance, and other amenities. But there is every possibility that as soon as you prepare all these things, you have to go away immediately, death. There is no guarantee that "After finishing this job, I shall be able to enjoy these things." At any moment you can be asked, "Get out." So this labor, so much labor for creating nice residential quarters, bank balance, and others, that is my futile labor because I could not enjoy it. Therefore this is not perfection of life.</p>
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	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay\|Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Ah. This dvandva-mohaḥ exists with the sinful man, but one who is freed from all sinful reactions, resultant actions, he can understand Kṛṣṇa.</p>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay\|Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Ah. This dvandva-mohaḥ exists with the sinful man, but one who is freed from all sinful reactions, resultant actions, he can understand Kṛṣṇa.</p>
	<p>Mr. Sar: Te dvandva-moha-nirmuktā bhajante māṁ dṛḍha-vratāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.28\|BG 7.28]]).</p>		<p>Mr. Sar: Te dvandva-moha-nirmuktā bhajante māṁ dṛḍha-vratāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.28 (1972)\|BG 7.28]]).</p>
	<p>Prabhupāda: Māṁ dṛḍha-vratāḥ. Then he engages himself dṛḍha-vratāḥ: "No, I am simply servant of Kṛṣṇa. That's all."</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: Māṁ dṛḍha-vratāḥ. Then he engages himself dṛḍha-vratāḥ: "No, I am simply servant of Kṛṣṇa. That's all."</p>
	<p>Mr. Sar: Jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya mām āśritya yatanti ye, te brahma...</p>		<p>Mr. Sar: Jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya mām āśritya yatanti ye, te brahma...</p>
	<p>Prabhupāda: Now, here, here the real problem is jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya. But they are, these people, they are engaged in paltry things. The real business is how to become free from the janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi ([[Vanisource:BG 13.9\|BG 13.9]]). They do not know that. Real, real purpose of life they do not know. Take any big leader. He does not know what is the aim of life. What is the problem of life, he does not know. Mūḍha na abhijānanti, mūḍha māṁ nābhijānanti.</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: Now, here, here the real problem is jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya. But they are, these people, they are engaged in paltry things. The real business is how to become free from the janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi ([[Vanisource:BG 13.8-12 (1972)\|BG 13.9]]). They do not know that. Real, real purpose of life they do not know. Take any big leader. He does not know what is the aim of life. What is the problem of life, he does not know. Mūḍha na abhijānanti, mūḍha māṁ nābhijānanti.</p>
	<p>Dr. Patel: Mūḍha mām abhijānanti.</p>		<p>Dr. Patel: Mūḍha mām abhijānanti.</p>
	<p>Mr. Sar: Mūḍho 'yaṁ nābhijānāti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.25\|BG 7.25]]).</p>		<p>Mr. Sar: Mūḍho 'yaṁ nābhijānāti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.25 (1972)\|BG 7.25]]).</p>
	<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
	<p>Mr. Sar: Te brahma tad viduḥ kṛtsnam adhyātmām karma cākhilam.</p>		<p>Mr. Sar: Te brahma tad viduḥ kṛtsnam adhyātmām karma cākhilam.</p>

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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is" class="section" sec_index="0" parent="compilation" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is"><h2>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</h2>
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<div id="BG_Chapters_7_-_12" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is" text="BG Chapters 7 - 12"><h3>BG Chapters 7 - 12</h3>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG 7.29|BG 7.29, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Intelligent persons who are endeavoring for liberation from old age and death take refuge in Me in devotional service. They are actually Brahman because they entirely know everything about transcendental activities.</p>
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<div class="purport text"><p>Birth, death, old age and diseases affect this material body, but not the spiritual body. There is no birth, death, old age and disease for the spiritual body, so one who attains a spiritual body, becomes one of the associates of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and engages in eternal devotional service is really liberated. Ahaṁ brahmāsmi: I am spirit. It is said that one should understand that he is Brahman, spirit soul. This Brahman conception of life is also in devotional service, as described in this verse. The pure devotees are transcendentally situated on the Brahman platform, and they know everything about transcendental activities.</p>
<p>Four kinds of impure devotees who engage themselves in the transcendental service of the Lord achieve their respective goals, and by the grace of the Supreme Lord, when they are fully Kṛṣṇa conscious, they actually enjoy spiritual association with the Supreme Lord. But those who are worshipers of demigods never reach the Supreme Lord in His supreme planet. Even the less intelligent Brahman-realized persons cannot reach the supreme planet of Kṛṣṇa known as Goloka Vṛndāvana. Only persons who perform activities in Kṛṣṇa consciousness (mām āśritya) are actually entitled to be called Brahman, because they are actually endeavoring to reach the Kṛṣṇa planet. Such persons have no misgivings about Kṛṣṇa, and thus they are factually Brahman.</p>
<p>Those who are engaged in worshiping the form or arcā of the Lord, or who are engaged in meditation on the Lord simply for liberation from material bondage, also know, by the grace of the Lord, the purports of Brahman, adhibhūta, etc., as explained by the Lord in the next chapter.</p>
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2>
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<div id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="0" parent="Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonBG72886NewYorkOctober231966_0" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="287" link="Lecture on BG 7.28-8.6 -- New York, October 23, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.28-8.6 -- New York, October 23, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.28-8.6 -- New York, October 23, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.28-8.6 -- New York, October 23, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">By Kṛṣṇa consciousness we can transcend this material consciousness of different interests. We have no other interest except realization of our self. But because, due to our ignorance, we have created our different interests and we are committing sins and breaking the laws of nature; and therefore we are gradually, by and by, becoming more and more entangled in this material nature. So the Lord says that "One who has surpassed this material nature and ignorance," te, "they can become free from this conception of duality," bhajante mām, "and becomes a perfect devotee of Myself." That means, in other words, one who becomes perfectly Kṛṣṇa consciousness, he becomes liberated from this conception of duality or illusion of duality. He becomes a perfect man—jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya.</p>
<p>Now, one can question why this perfection is required. What is the necessity of perfection? Because there are still... There are... People are mostly under the spell of the modes of nature of ignorance. Therefore they do not know the value of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. They can inquire that "What is the use of becoming Kṛṣṇa consciousness, Kṛṣṇa conscious, and become free from this conception of duality? What is the use?" So Lord Kṛṣṇa replies that question. Why?</p>
:jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya
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<p>This is necessary for you to become this Kṛṣṇa conscious, to adopt this life of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Why? Because jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya: "In order to get out of the miseries of jarā." Jarā means old age, invalidity. And jarā-maraṇa. Maraṇa means death. Due to ignorance, we forget the miseries of death, the miseries of invalidity, or old age. We think, "Now we are young, young man, young woman. Oh, we don't care for what is old age or what is death. Let us enjoy." We forget. But a man who is not in ignorance, he has always in his view that this material life is full of miseries because there is birth, there is death, there is old age and there is disease.</p>
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<div id="LectureonBG72886NewYorkOctober231966_1" class="quote" parent="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" book="Lec" index="287" link="Lecture on BG 7.28-8.6 -- New York, October 23, 1966" link_text="Lecture on BG 7.28-8.6 -- New York, October 23, 1966">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 7.28-8.6 -- New York, October 23, 1966|Lecture on BG 7.28-8.6 -- New York, October 23, 1966]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa says, jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya mām āśritya. If one has to..., has the ambition for getting out of these clutches of birth, death, old age and disease, then one, if he's intelligent enough, then, jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya mām āśritya, under Kṛṣṇa consciousness, if one attains his life's living activities... Activities there must be. We cannot stop, so long we have got this body or we have no body. That is an activity... We are active. Every living soul is active by nature. But that activity should be coordinated, dovetailed. The activity should be in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya mām āśritya yatanti ye. Yatanti means "one who endeavors in that way." Te brahma: "They are actually Brahman." Brahman means they are transcendental, in transcendental state. Te brahma tad viduḥ kṛtsnam: "Or they can understand what is the meaning of Brahman, or the transcendental, Transcendence." Te brahma tad viduḥ kṛtsnam adhyātmaṁ karma cākhilam: "They understand what is Brahman, and their work, their activities are also Brahman."</p>
<p>Now, there are two classes of transcendentalists. One class of transcendentalists, just like the impersonalists, they want to stop activities. They think like that, that when one becomes one with the Transcendence, then their activities stop. But actually, from the Bhagavad-gītā we find that te kṛtsnam adhyātmaṁ karma cākhilam. Their activities are not stopped, but the quality of the activity is changed. Brahman. The quality of activities becomes transcendental. Karma cākhilam. Akhila. Whatever he does in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, whatever he does, that becomes Brahman, or transcendental. That means free from the contamination of the three modes of material nature. Therefore, as he becomes free from the contamination of the three modes of material nature, therefore he's not going to have next body of this material nature. Next body he's not going to have material... The same example: just the, if you put iron rod into the fire, it becomes gradually the fire. The nature of fire the iron rod attains. So when it is red-hot, there is no possibility of its being the iron, but it is fire.</p>
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3>
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<div id="LectureonSB32626BombayJanuary31975_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="486" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.26 -- Bombay, January 3, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.26 -- Bombay, January 3, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.26 -- Bombay, January 3, 1975|Lecture on SB 3.26.26 -- Bombay, January 3, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Na jāyate na mriyate vā kadācit, na hanyate hanya... They do... These things do not strike even their dull brain, that "If ātmā... I am ātmā. I am the soul. I do not die even after the annihilation of this body. But that means I will have to accept another body. But is this very good job? Why not seek after our original position, when there is no more change of body?" This question does not arise even. But it is very easy. For that reason, Bhagavad-gītā is there. Everyone can avoid this birth and death. That is the business of human life, how to stop... Jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya. Vīta-rāga-bhaya-krodhaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.56|BG 2.56]]). Everything is there. This is the aim of life. But not... We are under this false ego, "I am this body." And some of us in the modes of goodness... That is also another kind of bondage: "I am brāhmaṇa. I am very learned scholar." But... That's all right, but still you have to go further, above the brahminical stage, not simply become proud of having nice birth, full of knowledge and learning. That is not sufficient. The learning should be perfect. What is that perfect learning? That vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 15.15|BG 15.15]]). If you are actually learned, if you are proud of becoming vedāntī or knowledge in Vedānta, then you must be aware of Kṛṣṇa. Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithBankerSeptember211973Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="77" link="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay|Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Banker: Correct. You are not talking about the physical.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Ah. Physical is my outward dress. Just like your coat, if it becomes old enough, there is no more possibility to use it. You have to throw it away. You have to take another coat. Similarly, physically, I am spirit soul. When my physical body is old enough, useless, then I will have to give it up. I will have to accept another new body. But the question is that I am eternal; why I am forced to accept a body which will be useless after some time? That is the problem. I am eternal, as spirit soul. Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20|BG 2.20]]). I do not die after the annihilation of this body. But why I am forced to accept another body, which will be annihilated? This technology is unknown all over the world. And still they are proud of becoming very advanced in science. (Aside:) Open this. Let them come. Keep it open. Janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi-duḥkha-doṣānu... ([[Vanisource:BG 13.9|BG 13.9]]). Come forward. (break) ...technology, although it is a problem. But we can supply this technology, to solve this problem. Jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya mām... Jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya. (break) ...modern technologist, scientists, they do not know what is the perfection of life. Now, they are thinking that having a big building, possessing big building, and possessing a few cars and nice bank balance, that is perfection of life. But suppose you get a very nice home, very nice big bank balance, and other amenities. But there is every possibility that as soon as you prepare all these things, you have to go away immediately, death. There is no guarantee that "After finishing this job, I shall be able to enjoy these things." At any moment you can be asked, "Get out." So this labor, so much labor for creating nice residential quarters, bank balance, and others, that is my futile labor because I could not enjoy it. Therefore this is not perfection of life.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkMarch311974Bombay_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="50" link="Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay" link_text="Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- March 31, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Ah. This dvandva-mohaḥ exists with the sinful man, but one who is freed from all sinful reactions, resultant actions, he can understand Kṛṣṇa.</p>
<p>Mr. Sar: Te dvandva-moha-nirmuktā bhajante māṁ dṛḍha-vratāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 7.28|BG 7.28]]).</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Māṁ dṛḍha-vratāḥ. Then he engages himself dṛḍha-vratāḥ: "No, I am simply servant of Kṛṣṇa. That's all."</p>
<p>Mr. Sar: Jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya mām āśritya yatanti ye, te brahma...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now, here, here the real problem is jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya. But they are, these people, they are engaged in paltry things. The real business is how to become free from the janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi ([[Vanisource:BG 13.9|BG 13.9]]). They do not know that. Real, real purpose of life they do not know. Take any big leader. He does not know what is the aim of life. What is the problem of life, he does not know. Mūḍha na abhijānanti, mūḍha māṁ nābhijānanti.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Mūḍha mām abhijānanti.</p>
<p>Mr. Sar: Mūḍho 'yaṁ nābhijānāti ([[Vanisource:BG 7.25|BG 7.25]]).</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Mr. Sar: Te brahma tad viduḥ kṛtsnam adhyātmām karma cākhilam.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now these things will be explained further in the next chapter. (break) ...nothing to... He's self-sufficient. He hasn't got to find out māyā to enjoy.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: No, the lower... That is the jīva.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: And the jīva, because he's dependent, he has to... Just like a servant. If he wants to, little more comfort, he may find out a bigger master. But he has to serve. That is the position. You have to serve. If you don't serve Kṛṣṇa, then you serve māyā. That's all.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithReverendGordonPowellHeadofScotsChurchJune281974Melbourne_2" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="130" link="Room Conversation with Reverend Gordon Powell, Head of Scots Church -- June 28, 1974, Melbourne" link_text="Room Conversation with Reverend Gordon Powell, Head of Scots Church -- June 28, 1974, Melbourne">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Reverend Gordon Powell, Head of Scots Church -- June 28, 1974, Melbourne|Room Conversation with Reverend Gordon Powell, Head of Scots Church -- June 28, 1974, Melbourne]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Reverend Powell: There was a reference to something you said about plants having a feeling. Some years ago I carried out an experiment at the request of one of our magazines in praying for plants and seeds growing and so on, and there seemed to be a relationship between these prayers for the plants and the opposite, in a negative way, against the plants. And I didn't have an opportunity to carry it out too far, much, but in two experiments, there was apparently a clear indication that the plants responded to prayer. And the peas and the beans in particular, (laughs) there was a significant, a very significant increase in the plants that were...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hmmm. Find out. Jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa:</p>
:jarā-maraṇa-mokṣāya
:mām āśritya yatanti ye
:te brahma tad viduḥ kṛtsnam
:adhyātmaṁ karma cākhilam
<p>"Translation: Intelligent persons who are endeavoring for liberation from old and death, take refuge in Me in devotional service. They are actually Brahman because they entirely know everything about transcendental and fruitive activities."</p>
<p>Reverend Powell: What does devotional service mean in that context?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Purport?</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: "Purport: Birth, death, old age and diseases affect this material body, but not the spiritual body. There is no birth, death, old age and disease for the spiritual body, so one who attains a spiritual body, becomes one of the associates of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and engages in eternal devotional service, is really liberated. Ahaṁ brahmāsmi: I am spirit. It is said that one should understand that he is Brahman—spirit soul. This Brahman conception of life is also in devotional service, as described in this verse. The pure devotees are transcendentally situated on the Brahman platform, and they know everything about transcendental and material activities."</p>
<p>Reverend Powell: "Transcendental" means spiritual, does it?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
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