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	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG 11.4\|BG 11.4, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">If You think that I am able to behold Your cosmic form, O my Lord, O master of all mystic power, then kindly show me that unlimited universal Self.</p>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG 11.4 (1972)\|BG 11.4, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">If You think that I am able to behold Your cosmic form, O my Lord, O master of all mystic power, then kindly show me that unlimited universal Self.</p>
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	<div class="purport text"><p>It is said that one can neither see, hear, understand nor perceive the Supreme Lord, Kṛṣṇa, by the material senses. But if one is engaged in loving transcendental service to the Lord from the beginning, then one can see the Lord by revelation. Every living entity is only a spiritual spark; therefore it is not possible to see or to understand the Supreme Lord. Arjuna, as a devotee, does not depend on his speculative strength; rather, he admits his limitations as a living entity and acknowledges Kṛṣṇa's inestimable position. Arjuna could understand that for a living entity it is not possible to understand the unlimited infinite. If the infinite reveals Himself, then it is possible to understand the nature of the infinite by the grace of the infinite. The word yogeśvara is also very significant here because the Lord has inconceivable power. If He likes, He can reveal Himself by His grace, although He is unlimited. Therefore Arjuna pleads for the inconceivable grace of Kṛṣṇa. He does not give Kṛṣṇa orders. Kṛṣṇa is not obliged to reveal Himself unless one surrenders fully in Kṛṣṇa consciousness and engages in devotional service. Thus it is not possible for persons who depend on the strength of their mental speculations to see Kṛṣṇa.</p>		<div class="purport text"><p>It is said that one can neither see, hear, understand nor perceive the Supreme Lord, Kṛṣṇa, by the material senses. But if one is engaged in loving transcendental service to the Lord from the beginning, then one can see the Lord by revelation. Every living entity is only a spiritual spark; therefore it is not possible to see or to understand the Supreme Lord. Arjuna, as a devotee, does not depend on his speculative strength; rather, he admits his limitations as a living entity and acknowledges Kṛṣṇa's inestimable position. Arjuna could understand that for a living entity it is not possible to understand the unlimited infinite. If the infinite reveals Himself, then it is possible to understand the nature of the infinite by the grace of the infinite. The word yogeśvara is also very significant here because the Lord has inconceivable power. If He likes, He can reveal Himself by His grace, although He is unlimited. Therefore Arjuna pleads for the inconceivable grace of Kṛṣṇa. He does not give Kṛṣṇa orders. Kṛṣṇa is not obliged to reveal Himself unless one surrenders fully in Kṛṣṇa consciousness and engages in devotional service. Thus it is not possible for persons who depend on the strength of their mental speculations to see Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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	:darśayātmānam avyayam		:darśayātmānam avyayam
	:([[Vanisource:BG 11.4\|BG 11.4]])		:([[Vanisource:BG 11.4 (1972)\|BG 11.4]])
	<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So because Arjuna was not accustomed to this impersonal theory...</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So because Arjuna was not accustomed to this impersonal theory...</p>
	<p>Dr. Patel: Even the pastime, rūpa vi...(?)</p>		<p>Dr. Patel: Even the pastime, rūpa vi...(?)</p>
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	<p>Dr. Patel: Shall I read further?</p>		<p>Dr. Patel: Shall I read further?</p>
	<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
	<p>Dr. Patel: Śrī bhagavān uvāca, paśya me pārtha rūpāṇi śataśo 'tha... ([[Vanisource:BG 11.5\|BG 11.5]])</p>		<p>Dr. Patel: Śrī bhagavān uvāca, paśya me pārtha rūpāṇi śataśo 'tha... ([[Vanisource:BG 11.5 (1972)\|BG 11.5]])</p>
	<p>Prabhupāda: So it was not difficult for him. Immediately He showed him. That is Kṛṣṇa. Not that "I shall show you some day privately."</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: So it was not difficult for him. Immediately He showed him. That is Kṛṣṇa. Not that "I shall show you some day privately."</p>
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	:vistabhyāham idaṁ kṛstnam		:vistabhyāham idaṁ kṛstnam
	:ekāṁśena sthito jagat		:ekāṁśena sthito jagat
	:([[Vanisource:BG 10.42\|BG 10.42]])		:([[Vanisource:BG 10.42 (1972)\|BG 10.42]])
	<p>By His one plenary portion, by entering into this material world, so gigantic form is there. Therefore they cannot understand that how Kṛṣṇa, just like a human being, he can be more important than this gigantic cosmic manifestation.</p>		<p>By His one plenary portion, by entering into this material world, so gigantic form is there. Therefore they cannot understand that how Kṛṣṇa, just like a human being, he can be more important than this gigantic cosmic manifestation.</p>
	<p>Dr. Patel: Shall I read further?</p>		<p>Dr. Patel: Shall I read further?</p>
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	:([[Vanisource:BG 11.4\|BG 11.4]])		:([[Vanisource:BG 11.4 (1972)\|BG 11.4]])
	<p>Prabhupāda: So darśayam, darśaya. "Now, how You have, I mean to say, manifested yourself in this cosmic, gigantic cosmic manifestation?" So if it is possible, kindly... So the point is: this gigantic cosmic manifestation is dependent on Kṛṣṇa, not that Kṛṣṇa is one of the product of this gigantic manifestation.</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: So darśayam, darśaya. "Now, how You have, I mean to say, manifested yourself in this cosmic, gigantic cosmic manifestation?" So if it is possible, kindly... So the point is: this gigantic cosmic manifestation is dependent on Kṛṣṇa, not that Kṛṣṇa is one of the product of this gigantic manifestation.</p>
	<p>Girirāja: (reads synonyms) (Prabhupāda interrupts)</p>		<p>Girirāja: (reads synonyms) (Prabhupāda interrupts)</p>

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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:BG 11.4|BG 11.4, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">If You think that I am able to behold Your cosmic form, O my Lord, O master of all mystic power, then kindly show me that unlimited universal Self.</p>
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<div class="purport text"><p>It is said that one can neither see, hear, understand nor perceive the Supreme Lord, Kṛṣṇa, by the material senses. But if one is engaged in loving transcendental service to the Lord from the beginning, then one can see the Lord by revelation. Every living entity is only a spiritual spark; therefore it is not possible to see or to understand the Supreme Lord. Arjuna, as a devotee, does not depend on his speculative strength; rather, he admits his limitations as a living entity and acknowledges Kṛṣṇa's inestimable position. Arjuna could understand that for a living entity it is not possible to understand the unlimited infinite. If the infinite reveals Himself, then it is possible to understand the nature of the infinite by the grace of the infinite. The word yogeśvara is also very significant here because the Lord has inconceivable power. If He likes, He can reveal Himself by His grace, although He is unlimited. Therefore Arjuna pleads for the inconceivable grace of Kṛṣṇa. He does not give Kṛṣṇa orders. Kṛṣṇa is not obliged to reveal Himself unless one surrenders fully in Kṛṣṇa consciousness and engages in devotional service. Thus it is not possible for persons who depend on the strength of their mental speculations to see Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 3, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 3, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: No, he is creating trouble for himself because the rascals will represent that "I am incarnation of God." Therefore Arjuna is asking him, "Now show me your virāṭ-rūpa." So these rascals, bewildered by these so-called gods, they should ask, "Show me your virāṭ-rūpa. Then I shall accept you." That is the process. Not that "I am incarnation of God." How you become incarnation? Just lift one hill. Or show me virāṭ-rūpa. Or show me that you have sixteen thousand wives and you are maintaining them in sixteen thousand palaces. Then you call yourself that "I am incarnation of Kṛṣṇa." Otherwise, you rascal, I cannot believe you. For them. Otherwise Kṛṣṇa... He knows what is Kṛṣṇa, but because in future some rascal will come and will say that "I am incarnation of God," therefore it is a warning that before accepting one rascal as incarnation, you ask him to show virāṭ-rūpa.</p>
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:manyase yadi tac chakyaṁ
:mayā draṣṭum iti prabho
:yogeśvara tato me tvaṁ
:darśayātmānam avyayam
:([[Vanisource:BG 11.4|BG 11.4]])
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So because Arjuna was not accustomed to this impersonal theory...</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Even the pastime, rūpa vi...(?)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. But he wanted to see the virāṭ-rūpa. Therefore he said, "If you think that I shall be able to see, then You can give me."</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Shall I read further?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Śrī bhagavān uvāca, paśya me pārtha rūpāṇi śataśo 'tha... ([[Vanisource:BG 11.5|BG 11.5]])</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So it was not difficult for him. Immediately He showed him. That is Kṛṣṇa. Not that "I shall show you some day privately."</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 4, 1974, Bombay|Morning Walk -- April 4, 1974, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Ah. Therefore those who are materialistic persons, they are amazed with the huge body of this universe. But Arjuna is saying that "On account of Your entering..." As this body has developed on account of entering, that minute particle or spiritual spark, similarly, there are innumerable universes. All these universes, they have developed. (aside:) Hare Kṛṣṇa, Jaya. (break) ...Kṛṣṇa's entering as Garbhodakaśayī Viṣṇu. That is explained in the last chapter.</p>
:athavā bahunaitena
:kim jñātena tavārjuna
:vistabhyāham idaṁ kṛstnam
:ekāṁśena sthito jagat
:([[Vanisource:BG 10.42|BG 10.42]])
<p>By His one plenary portion, by entering into this material world, so gigantic form is there. Therefore they cannot understand that how Kṛṣṇa, just like a human being, he can be more important than this gigantic cosmic manifestation.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel: Shall I read further?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Dr. Patel:</p>
:manyase yadi tac chakyaṁ
:mayā draṣṭum iti prabho
:yogeśvara tato me tvaṁ
:darśayātmānam avyayam
:([[Vanisource:BG 11.4|BG 11.4]])
<p>Prabhupāda: So darśayam, darśaya. "Now, how You have, I mean to say, manifested yourself in this cosmic, gigantic cosmic manifestation?" So if it is possible, kindly... So the point is: this gigantic cosmic manifestation is dependent on Kṛṣṇa, not that Kṛṣṇa is one of the product of this gigantic manifestation.</p>
<p>Girirāja: (reads synonyms) (Prabhupāda interrupts)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Here Kṛṣṇa is addressed, "Yogeśvara," because the yogic power, that is estimated very much important by the ordinary class of men. So He is the master of all yogic power. Just like here, that gold maker?</p>
<p>Girirāja: Sai Baba?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Sai Baba. He is showing little yogic aiśvarya. But people are, because they do not know, they are not aware of Kṛṣṇa, they are taking him as God. You see?</p>
<p>Girirāja: (reads rest of synonyms for this verse) "Translation: If you think that I am able to behold Your cosmic form, O my Lord, O master of all mystic power, then kindly show me that universal self."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now, here is the description of how God manifests. So unless one reads Bhagavad-gītā carefully, they will be misled by this avatāra, that avatāra, that avatāra. You see?</p>
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