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	== Conversations and Morning Walks ==		<div class="section" id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2></div>

	=== 1976 Conversations and Morning Walks ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">~~'''~~Bengali culture was very much adored all over India.~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura">
			<div class="heading">Bengali culture was very much adored all over India.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~CON-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura\|Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura]]:'''		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura\|Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura]]:'''

	Jayapatākā: All over India. Like Madana already got three devotees when I was there in one week. By now he may also have more. Bengalis like kīrtana very much. [break] ...devotees are Bengalis.		Jayapatākā: All over India. Like Madana already got three devotees when I was there in one week. By now he may also have more. Bengalis like kīrtana very much. [break] ...devotees are Bengalis.

	Prabhupāda: ...ago Bengali culture was very much adored all over India. Even one big politician, Gandhi's guru, Goke, Gokule, he remarked, "What Bengal thinks today, other provinces will think tomorrow." He said like that. And actually all big, big movements started from Bengal. The national movement also was started from Bengal. Whatever we may criticize Vivekananda, when... He's a Bengali. He went first for preaching Indian religion. Rabindranath Tagore, he's a Bengali. All big, big...</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: ...ago Bengali culture was very much adored all over India. Even one big politician, Gandhi's guru, Goke, Gokule, he remarked, "What Bengal thinks today, other provinces will think tomorrow." He said like that. And actually all big, big movements started from Bengal. The national movement also was started from Bengal. Whatever we may criticize Vivekananda, when... He's a Bengali. He went first for preaching Indian religion. Rabindranath Tagore, he's a Bengali. All big, big...</div>
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	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">~~'''~~Bengali culture was very much adored. ~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura" link_text="Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura">
			<div class="heading">Bengali culture was very much adored.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~CON-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura\|Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura]]:'''		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura\|Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura]]:'''

	Prabhupāda: Bengali culture was very much adored. Surendranath Bannerjee started the political movement, and he was so well known. Even in Parliament, the Englishmen, English M.P.'s, he... They were speaking of Surendranath. They used to say "Surrendered not." "Here is a person who is not 'Surrender not.' He'll never surrender. 'Surrender not.' " Actually, the British Empire was startled by the agitation of Surendranath Bannerjee. The Congress was started by Surendranath Bannerjee, this one Congress. Two Bengali and one Englishman started this Congress sometimes in 1887, 1867, like that. So in our childhood we used to see that Surendranath Bannerjee was being elected president of Congress almost every year. And Gandhi came into prominence when Surendranath Bannerjee surrendered. Formerly he was not surrendering. But the government gave him the first ministership, that "You become minister." So he became a government man. Then Gandhi came in prominence. Surendranath Bannerjee was the first minister in India. [break] ...in our childhood, if he would speak, thousands, thousands men will gather in Calcutta. [break] ...Surendranath Bannerjee Road.</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: Bengali culture was very much adored. Surendranath Bannerjee started the political movement, and he was so well known. Even in Parliament, the Englishmen, English M.P.'s, he... They were speaking of Surendranath. They used to say "Surrendered not." "Here is a person who is not 'Surrender not.' He'll never surrender. 'Surrender not.' " Actually, the British Empire was startled by the agitation of Surendranath Bannerjee. The Congress was started by Surendranath Bannerjee, this one Congress. Two Bengali and one Englishman started this Congress sometimes in 1887, 1867, like that. So in our childhood we used to see that Surendranath Bannerjee was being elected president of Congress almost every year. And Gandhi came into prominence when Surendranath Bannerjee surrendered. Formerly he was not surrendering. But the government gave him the first ministership, that "You become minister." So he became a government man. Then Gandhi came in prominence. Surendranath Bannerjee was the first minister in India. [break] ...in our childhood, if he would speak, thousands, thousands men will gather in Calcutta. [break] ...Surendranath Bannerjee Road.</div>
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	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">~~'''~~I say that Vivekananda broke that Bengali culture.~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation -- December 31, 1976, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation -- December 31, 1976, Bombay">
			<div class="heading">I say that Vivekananda broke that Bengali culture.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~CON-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- December 31, 1976, Bombay\|Room Conversation -- December 31, 1976, Bombay]]:'''		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- December 31, 1976, Bombay\|Room Conversation -- December 31, 1976, Bombay]]:'''

	Dr. Patel: Great number of luminaries have been produced by Bengal. Last year we read in Times of India more luminaries were produced in Bengal than any other...		Dr. Patel: Great number of luminaries have been produced by Bengal. Last year we read in Times of India more luminaries were produced in Bengal than any other...
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	Dr. Patel: Bengali culture is fish-eating. Even brāhmaṇas eating.		Dr. Patel: Bengali culture is fish-eating. Even brāhmaṇas eating.

	Prabhupāda: No. They are eating fish only. Because Bengal is full of rivers. But not for all. Mass of people, that's a fact. But he introduced, "You can eat anything. It has nothing to do with religion." In Bengal in our childhood we have seen if anyone was habituated to take meat... Common man would not. Rich man. The rich men they have their sahis. Sahis you know, who takes care of the horse. So he would cook in the horse shed.</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: No. They are eating fish only. Because Bengal is full of rivers. But not for all. Mass of people, that's a fact. But he introduced, "You can eat anything. It has nothing to do with religion." In Bengal in our childhood we have seen if anyone was habituated to take meat... Common man would not. Rich man. The rich men they have their sahis. Sahis you know, who takes care of the horse. So he would cook in the horse shed.</div>
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	== Correspondence ==		<div class="section" id="Correspondence" text="Correspondence"><h2>Correspondence</h2></div>

	=== 1972 Correspondence ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="1972_Correspondence" text="1972 Correspondence"><h3>1972 Correspondence</h3></div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">~~'''~~This foolish theory and fanaticism has killed the Bengali culture. Not all, but a few percentage.~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="quote" book="Let" link="Letter to Bhavananda -- Honolulu 9 May, 1972" link_text="Letter to Bhavananda -- Honolulu 9 May, 1972">
			<div class="heading">This foolish theory and fanaticism has killed the Bengali culture. Not all, but a few percentage.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~LET-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Bhavananda -- Honolulu 9 May, 1972\|Letter to Bhavananda -- Honolulu 9 May, 1972]]:''' So far your observation that the Bengalis have been degraded by bogus so-called sadhus, yes, the Bengali's are generally fish-eaters and some are flesh-eaters, so the Ramakrishna Mission gave this concession that there is nothing harmful in eating flesh. The Bengalis got this appetite for eating flesh and fish and at the same time becoming one with God. This foolish theory and fanaticism has killed the Bengali culture. Not all, but a few percentage.</~~span~~>		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Bhavananda -- Honolulu 9 May, 1972\|Letter to Bhavananda -- Honolulu 9 May, 1972]]:''' So far your observation that the Bengalis have been degraded by bogus so-called sadhus, yes, the Bengali's are generally fish-eaters and some are flesh-eaters, so the Ramakrishna Mission gave this concession that there is nothing harmful in eating flesh. The Bengalis got this appetite for eating flesh and fish and at the same time becoming one with God. This foolish theory and fanaticism has killed the Bengali culture. Not all, but a few percentage.</div>
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== Conversations and Morning Walks ==

=== 1976 Conversations and Morning Walks ===

'''Bengali culture was very much adored all over India.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura|Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura]]:'''

Jayapatākā: All over India. Like Madana already got three devotees when I was there in one week. By now he may also have more. Bengalis like kīrtana very much. [break] ...devotees are Bengalis.

Prabhupāda: ...ago Bengali culture was very much adored all over India. Even one big politician, Gandhi's guru, Goke, Gokule, he remarked, "What Bengal thinks today, other provinces will think tomorrow." He said like that. And actually all big, big movements started from Bengal. The national movement also was started from Bengal. Whatever we may criticize Vivekananda, when... He's a Bengali. He went first for preaching Indian religion. Rabindranath Tagore, he's a Bengali. All big, big...

'''Bengali culture was very much adored. '''

'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura|Morning Walk -- February 27, 1976, Mayapura]]:'''

Prabhupāda: Bengali culture was very much adored. Surendranath Bannerjee started the political movement, and he was so well known. Even in Parliament, the Englishmen, English M.P.'s, he... They were speaking of Surendranath. They used to say "Surrendered not." "Here is a person who is not 'Surrender not.' He'll never surrender. 'Surrender not.' " Actually, the British Empire was startled by the agitation of Surendranath Bannerjee. The Congress was started by Surendranath Bannerjee, this one Congress. Two Bengali and one Englishman started this Congress sometimes in 1887, 1867, like that. So in our childhood we used to see that Surendranath Bannerjee was being elected president of Congress almost every year. And Gandhi came into prominence when Surendranath Bannerjee surrendered. Formerly he was not surrendering. But the government gave him the first ministership, that "You become minister." So he became a government man. Then Gandhi came in prominence. Surendranath Bannerjee was the first minister in India. [break] ...in our childhood, if he would speak, thousands, thousands men will gather in Calcutta. [break] ...Surendranath Bannerjee Road.

'''I say that Vivekananda broke that Bengali culture.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- December 31, 1976, Bombay|Room Conversation -- December 31, 1976, Bombay]]:'''

Dr. Patel: Great number of luminaries have been produced by Bengal. Last year we read in Times of India more luminaries were produced in Bengal than any other...

Prabhupāda: No, Bengal... They maintained the culture. But therefore I say that Vivekananda broke that Bengali culture.

Dr. Patel: Bengali culture is fish-eating. Even brāhmaṇas eating.

Prabhupāda: No. They are eating fish only. Because Bengal is full of rivers. But not for all. Mass of people, that's a fact. But he introduced, "You can eat anything. It has nothing to do with religion." In Bengal in our childhood we have seen if anyone was habituated to take meat... Common man would not. Rich man. The rich men they have their sahis. Sahis you know, who takes care of the horse. So he would cook in the horse shed.

== Correspondence ==

=== 1972 Correspondence ===

'''This foolish theory and fanaticism has killed the Bengali culture. Not all, but a few percentage.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Bhavananda -- Honolulu 9 May, 1972|Letter to Bhavananda -- Honolulu 9 May, 1972]]:''' So far your observation that the Bengalis have been degraded by bogus so-called sadhus, yes, the Bengali's are generally fish-eaters and some are flesh-eaters, so the Ramakrishna Mission gave this concession that there is nothing harmful in eating flesh. The Bengalis got this appetite for eating flesh and fish and at the same time becoming one with God. This foolish theory and fanaticism has killed the Bengali culture. Not all, but a few percentage.

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Stritama at 12:30, 3 December 2012

Visnu Murti at 05:45, 17 March 2009