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	== Lectures ==		<div class="section" id="Lectures" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2></div>

	=== Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3></div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">~~'''~~guru can order him to act any, I mean to say, low class service, still he is prepared to do it. This is the business of brahmacārī, and he takes all trouble, and childhood, he doesn't mind.~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="quote" book="Lec" link="Lecture on SB 3.25.28 -- Bombay, November 28, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.25.28 -- Bombay, November 28, 1974">
			<div class="heading">guru can order him to act any, I mean to say, low class service, still he is prepared to do it. This is the business of brahmacārī, and he takes all trouble, and childhood, he doesn't mind.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~LEC-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.28 -- Bombay, November 28, 1974\|Lecture on SB 3.25.28 -- Bombay, November 28, 1974]]:''' Therefore our system is, Vedic system is from the very beginning, a child, a boy is sent to gurukula to learn. Not that automatically one learns. One must go to gurukula, brahmacārī. Brahmacārī goes to guru, and he works like a menial servant. He may be a son of a big brāhmaṇa or big king, it doesn't matter. The one who goes to gurukula, he immediately becomes the menial servant of guru. This is the system. That means guru can order him to act any, I mean to say, low class service, still he is prepared to do it. This is the business of brahmacārī, and he takes all trouble, and childhood, he doesn't mind. Even Kṛṣṇa, he went to gurukula. To teach us. Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, what is the use of His going to gurukula? No, He is teaching, āpani ācari' prabhu jīveri śikhāya. Caitanya Mahāprabhu also accepted guru, teacher, guru more mūrkha dekhi' karila śāsana [Cc. Ādi 7.71].</~~span~~>		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.28 -- Bombay, November 28, 1974\|Lecture on SB 3.25.28 -- Bombay, November 28, 1974]]:''' Therefore our system is, Vedic system is from the very beginning, a child, a boy is sent to gurukula to learn. Not that automatically one learns. One must go to gurukula, brahmacārī. Brahmacārī goes to guru, and he works like a menial servant. He may be a son of a big brāhmaṇa or big king, it doesn't matter. The one who goes to gurukula, he immediately becomes the menial servant of guru. This is the system. That means guru can order him to act any, I mean to say, low class service, still he is prepared to do it. This is the business of brahmacārī, and he takes all trouble, and childhood, he doesn't mind. Even Kṛṣṇa, he went to gurukula. To teach us. Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, what is the use of His going to gurukula? No, He is teaching, āpani ācari' prabhu jīveri śikhāya. Caitanya Mahāprabhu also accepted guru, teacher, guru more mūrkha dekhi' karila śāsana [Cc. Ādi 7.71].</div>
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	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">~~'''~~Brahmacārī's business is that he will collect, he'll earn everything, but it is for his spiritual master. Everything given.~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="quote" book="Lec" link="Lecture on SB 7.7.29-31 -- San Francisco, March 15, 1967, (incomplete lecture)" link_text="Lecture on SB 7.7.29-31 -- San Francisco, March 15, 1967, (incomplete lecture)">
			<div class="heading">Brahmacārī's business is that he will collect, he'll earn everything, but it is for his spiritual master. Everything given.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~LEC-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.7.29-31 -- San Francisco, March 15, 1967, (incomplete lecture)\|Lecture on SB 7.7.29-31 -- San Francisco, March 15, 1967, (incomplete lecture)]]:''' So the system is any brahmacārī or any sannyāsī goes to a householder, "Mother, give me some alms. I am brahmacārī," (s)he will at once give. At once give. So this is the system.		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.7.29-31 -- San Francisco, March 15, 1967, (incomplete lecture)\|Lecture on SB 7.7.29-31 -- San Francisco, March 15, 1967, (incomplete lecture)]]:''' So the system is any brahmacārī or any sannyāsī goes to a householder, "Mother, give me some alms. I am brahmacārī," (s)he will at once give. At once give. So this is the system.
	So... So brahmacārī, brahmacārī's business is that he will collect, he'll earn everything, but it is for his spiritual master. Everything given. "Sir, I have given you." He doesn't possess anything. This is brahmacārī. Even there is injunction that even if the spiritual master forgets to call the brahmacārī—"My dear boy, come and take prasādam,"—oḥ, he'll not touch by his own accord. Because Guru Mahārāja has forgotten to call him, oh, he'll fast on that day. There are so many restrictions. Of course, in the Vedic scripture... So brahmacārī means that he has no personal profit. And do you mean to say that the spiritual master will take from the brahmacārī everything and he'll, I mean to say, grab the whole thing for his personal sense enjoyment? No. He, whatever he receives, he offers to Kṛṣṇa. For Kṛṣṇa.</~~span~~>		So... So brahmacārī, brahmacārī's business is that he will collect, he'll earn everything, but it is for his spiritual master. Everything given. "Sir, I have given you." He doesn't possess anything. This is brahmacārī. Even there is injunction that even if the spiritual master forgets to call the brahmacārī—"My dear boy, come and take prasādam,"—oḥ, he'll not touch by his own accord. Because Guru Mahārāja has forgotten to call him, oh, he'll fast on that day. There are so many restrictions. Of course, in the Vedic scripture... So brahmacārī means that he has no personal profit. And do you mean to say that the spiritual master will take from the brahmacārī everything and he'll, I mean to say, grab the whole thing for his personal sense enjoyment? No. He, whatever he receives, he offers to Kṛṣṇa. For Kṛṣṇa.</div>
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	== Conversations and Morning Walks ==		<div class="section" id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2></div>

	=== 1977 Conversations and Morning Walks ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">~~'''~~We should do it, because it will give our society a more balanced appearance. Otherwise they think everyone is beggar. But at least if they see that the brahmacārīs' business is begging...~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura" link_text="Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura">
			<div class="heading">We should do it, because it will give our society a more balanced appearance. Otherwise they think everyone is beggar. But at least if they see that the brahmacārīs' business is begging...</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~CON-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura\|Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura]]:'''		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura\|Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura]]:'''

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I found that our devotees who engage in business, they become a little spiritually weakened because we're not that advanced yet.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I found that our devotees who engage in business, they become a little spiritually weakened because we're not that advanced yet.
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	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That is a respectable business for the Americans.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That is a respectable business for the Americans.

	Prabhupāda: Yes.</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: Yes.</div>
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	== Correspondence ==		<div class="section" id="Correspondence" text="Correspondence"><h2>Correspondence</h2></div>

	=== 1975 Correspondence ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="1975_Correspondence" text="1975 Correspondence"><h3>1975 Correspondence</h3></div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">~~'''~~Brahmacari's business is to study and then go to make some collection on behalf of the guru. This is very good engagement for them.~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="quote" book="Let" link="Letter to Hiranyagarbha -- Bombay 4 January, 1975" link_text="Letter to Hiranyagarbha -- Bombay 4 January, 1975">
			<div class="heading">Brahmacari's business is to study and then go to make some collection on behalf of the guru. This is very good engagement for them.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~LET-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Hiranyagarbha -- Bombay 4 January, 1975\|Letter to Hiranyagarbha -- Bombay 4 January, 1975]]:''' Those young boys are living as true brahmacaris. Brahmacari's business is to study and then go to make some collection on behalf of the guru. This is very good engagement for them.		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Hiranyagarbha -- Bombay 4 January, 1975\|Letter to Hiranyagarbha -- Bombay 4 January, 1975]]:''' Those young boys are living as true brahmacaris. Brahmacari's business is to study and then go to make some collection on behalf of the guru. This is very good engagement for them.

	:ata sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaih		:ata sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaih
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	No one can understand Krishna as He is by the blunt material senses but He reveals Himself to the devotees, being pleased with them for their transcendental loving service unto Him. So, keep everyone engaged 24 hours and everything will be all right.</~~span~~>		No one can understand Krishna as He is by the blunt material senses but He reveals Himself to the devotees, being pleased with them for their transcendental loving service unto Him. So, keep everyone engaged 24 hours and everything will be all right.</div>
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== Lectures ==

=== Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures ===

'''guru can order him to act any, I mean to say, low class service, still he is prepared to do it. This is the business of brahmacārī, and he takes all trouble, and childhood, he doesn't mind.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.28 -- Bombay, November 28, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.25.28 -- Bombay, November 28, 1974]]:''' Therefore our system is, Vedic system is from the very beginning, a child, a boy is sent to gurukula to learn. Not that automatically one learns. One must go to gurukula, brahmacārī. Brahmacārī goes to guru, and he works like a menial servant. He may be a son of a big brāhmaṇa or big king, it doesn't matter. The one who goes to gurukula, he immediately becomes the menial servant of guru. This is the system. That means guru can order him to act any, I mean to say, low class service, still he is prepared to do it. This is the business of brahmacārī, and he takes all trouble, and childhood, he doesn't mind. Even Kṛṣṇa, he went to gurukula. To teach us. Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, what is the use of His going to gurukula? No, He is teaching, āpani ācari' prabhu jīveri śikhāya. Caitanya Mahāprabhu also accepted guru, teacher, guru more mūrkha dekhi' karila śāsana [Cc. Ādi 7.71].

'''Brahmacārī's business is that he will collect, he'll earn everything, but it is for his spiritual master. Everything given.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 7.7.29-31 -- San Francisco, March 15, 1967, (incomplete lecture)|Lecture on SB 7.7.29-31 -- San Francisco, March 15, 1967, (incomplete lecture)]]:''' So the system is any brahmacārī or any sannyāsī goes to a householder, "Mother, give me some alms. I am brahmacārī," (s)he will at once give. At once give. So this is the system.
So... So brahmacārī, brahmacārī's business is that he will collect, he'll earn everything, but it is for his spiritual master. Everything given. "Sir, I have given you." He doesn't possess anything. This is brahmacārī. Even there is injunction that even if the spiritual master forgets to call the brahmacārī—"My dear boy, come and take prasādam,"—oḥ, he'll not touch by his own accord. Because Guru Mahārāja has forgotten to call him, oh, he'll fast on that day. There are so many restrictions. Of course, in the Vedic scripture... So brahmacārī means that he has no personal profit. And do you mean to say that the spiritual master will take from the brahmacārī everything and he'll, I mean to say, grab the whole thing for his personal sense enjoyment? No. He, whatever he receives, he offers to Kṛṣṇa. For Kṛṣṇa.

== Conversations and Morning Walks ==

=== 1977 Conversations and Morning Walks ===

'''We should do it, because it will give our society a more balanced appearance. Otherwise they think everyone is beggar. But at least if they see that the brahmacārīs' business is begging...'''

'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation -- February 18, 1977, Mayapura]]:'''

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I found that our devotees who engage in business, they become a little spiritually weakened because we're not that advanced yet.

Prabhupāda: No, cent percent engagement in, that is hamper. There is no doubt. But to do business as a householder is not bad.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And practically, the position that our society is coming into now, I think it's actually... We should do it, because it will give our society a more balanced appearance. Otherwise they think everyone is beggar. But at least if they see that the brahmacārīs' business is begging...

Prabhupāda: Just like this Gauḍīya Maṭha has become. They have no other way of income except begging in different way. Now they have taken to this business, parikrama. They earn something, lump sum, by calling men to parikrama, and they pay, say, two hundred rupees. Out of, a hundred rupees they save, minimum, and that is their whole year's livelihood.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That is not a good business.

Prabhupāda: They are... They have come because they have no books.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: One very good business that we are developing in New York is prasādam.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That is a respectable business for the Americans.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

== Correspondence ==

=== 1975 Correspondence ===

'''Brahmacari's business is to study and then go to make some collection on behalf of the guru. This is very good engagement for them.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Hiranyagarbha -- Bombay 4 January, 1975|Letter to Hiranyagarbha -- Bombay 4 January, 1975]]:''' Those young boys are living as true brahmacaris. Brahmacari's business is to study and then go to make some collection on behalf of the guru. This is very good engagement for them.

:ata sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaih
:sevonmukhe hi jihvadau svayam eva sphuraty adah
:(Padma Purāṇa) [Brs. 1.2.234]

No one can understand Krishna as He is by the blunt material senses but He reveals Himself to the devotees, being pleased with them for their transcendental loving service unto Him. So, keep everyone engaged 24 hours and everything will be all right.