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	<div id="LectureonSB32531BombayDecember11974_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="452" link="Lecture on SB 3.25.31 -- Bombay, December 1, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.25.31 -- Bombay, December 1, 1974">		<div id="LectureonSB32531BombayDecember11974_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="452" link="Lecture on SB 3.25.31 -- Bombay, December 1, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.25.31 -- Bombay, December 1, 1974">
	<div class="heading">There are two processes of understanding the Absolute Truth. One is called ascending process, or inductive logic, and another process is descending process, or deductive logic. So ascending process is based on speculation, and descending process is based on fact.</div>		<div class="heading">There are two processes of understanding the Absolute Truth. One is called ascending process, or inductive logic, and another process is descending process, or deductive logic. So ascending process is based on speculation, and descending process is based on fact.</div>
	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.31 -- Bombay, December 1, 1974\|Lecture on SB 3.25.31 -- Bombay, December 1, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So this Kapila, Devahūti, son of Devahūti Kapila, His sāṅkhya-yoga means bhakti-vitāna-yogam, how bhakti, devotional service to the Lord, is expanded. That is sāṅkhya-yoga. And how it is received, that is also stated here, tattva āmnāyaṁ yad pravadanti sāṅkhyam. Āmnāyam, by disciplic succession. No philosophical speculation, but as it is received by predecessor, by tradition, āmnāyam. Tattva āmnāyam. We cannot manufacture tattva. That is improper way of understanding the truth. Generally, the Western philosophers, they try to understand the Absolute Truth by the ascending process. There are two processes of understanding the Absolute Truth. One is called ascending process, or inductive logic, and another process is descending process, or deductive logic. So ascending process is based on speculation, and descending process is based on fact.</p></div>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.31 -- Bombay, December 1, 1974\|Lecture on SB 3.25.31 -- Bombay, December 1, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So this Kapila, Devahūti, son of Devahūti Kapila, His sāṅkhya-yoga means bhakti-vitāna-yogam, how bhakti, devotional service to the Lord, is expanded. That is sāṅkhya-yoga. And how it is received, that is also stated here, tattva āmnāyaṁ yad pravadanti sāṅkhyam. Āmnāyam, by disciplic succession. No philosophical speculation, but as it is received by predecessor, by tradition, āmnāyam. Tattva āmnāyam. We cannot manufacture tattva. That is improper way of understanding the truth. Generally, the Western philosophers, they try to understand the Absolute Truth by the ascending process. There are two processes of understanding the Absolute Truth. One is called ascending process, or inductive logic, and another process is descending process, or deductive logic. So ascending process is based on speculation, and descending process is based on fact.</p>
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	<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Similarly, there must be supreme father.</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Similarly, there must be supreme father.</p>
	<p>Guest (3): Well, who is the supreme father's father?</p>		<p>Guest (3): Well, who is the supreme father's father?</p>
	<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that is enquiry, that you have got your father, your father has got father, he has got his father, he has got... Who is the supreme father? He is God.</p></div>		<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that is enquiry, that you have got your father, your father has got father, he has got his father, he has got... Who is the supreme father? He is God.</p>
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	<div class="heading">It is admitted that inductive logic is imperfect; deductive logic is perfect.</div>		<div class="heading">It is admitted that inductive logic is imperfect; deductive logic is perfect.</div>
	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 11, 1975, Chicago\|Morning Walk -- July 11, 1975, Chicago]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Jayatīrtha: Once you said the missing link was your foot in their face. (laughter) (break)</p>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 11, 1975, Chicago\|Morning Walk -- July 11, 1975, Chicago]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Jayatīrtha: Once you said the missing link was your foot in their face. (laughter) (break)</p>
	<p>Prabhupāda: ...logic also it is admitted that inductive logic is imperfect; deductive logic is perfect. (break) ...logic means śrota-panthā, paramparā, śruti, Vedic language, śruti. Śruti pramāṇa. Pramāṇa means evidence, and śruti means Veda. Pratyakṣa, anumāna, śruti. Pratyakṣa means direct, direct evidence, and anumāna, hypothesis. That is Darwin's theory, something like that. And śruti, Vedic. So out of these three kinds of evidences, śruti-pramāṇa is accepted as supreme, neither anumāna nor pratyakṣa. Pratyakṣa, you are seeing the sky, but you cannot say the length and breadth. You cannot say. You are seeing daily. If you say, "I have got this telescope," so that is an imperfect. and how you can see with your eyes directly, direct sense perception? Hypothesis, anumāna, guessing, that is also not perfect. And śruti, we take śruti from the perfect person, Kṛṣṇa. He says, aham evāsam agre: "Before the creation I was there." We take simply.</p></div>		<p>Prabhupāda: ...logic also it is admitted that inductive logic is imperfect; deductive logic is perfect. (break) ...logic means śrota-panthā, paramparā, śruti, Vedic language, śruti. Śruti pramāṇa. Pramāṇa means evidence, and śruti means Veda. Pratyakṣa, anumāna, śruti. Pratyakṣa means direct, direct evidence, and anumāna, hypothesis. That is Darwin's theory, something like that. And śruti, Vedic. So out of these three kinds of evidences, śruti-pramāṇa is accepted as supreme, neither anumāna nor pratyakṣa. Pratyakṣa, you are seeing the sky, but you cannot say the length and breadth. You cannot say. You are seeing daily. If you say, "I have got this telescope," so that is an imperfect. and how you can see with your eyes directly, direct sense perception? Hypothesis, anumāna, guessing, that is also not perfect. And śruti, we take śruti from the perfect person, Kṛṣṇa. He says, aham evāsam agre: "Before the creation I was there." We take simply.</p>
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<div class="heading">There are two processes of understanding the Absolute Truth. One is called ascending process, or inductive logic, and another process is descending process, or deductive logic. So ascending process is based on speculation, and descending process is based on fact.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.25.31 -- Bombay, December 1, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.25.31 -- Bombay, December 1, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So this Kapila, Devahūti, son of Devahūti Kapila, His sāṅkhya-yoga means bhakti-vitāna-yogam, how bhakti, devotional service to the Lord, is expanded. That is sāṅkhya-yoga. And how it is received, that is also stated here, tattva āmnāyaṁ yad pravadanti sāṅkhyam. Āmnāyam, by disciplic succession. No philosophical speculation, but as it is received by predecessor, by tradition, āmnāyam. Tattva āmnāyam. We cannot manufacture tattva. That is improper way of understanding the truth. Generally, the Western philosophers, they try to understand the Absolute Truth by the ascending process. There are two processes of understanding the Absolute Truth. One is called ascending process, or inductive logic, and another process is descending process, or deductive logic. So ascending process is based on speculation, and descending process is based on fact.</p></div>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2></div>
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<div class="heading">If there is a son, there must be father. That is science. What is the reasoning yours, that you deny father?</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Alcohol and Drug Hospital People -- May 16, 1975, Perth|Room Conversation with Alcohol and Drug Hospital People -- May 16, 1975, Perth]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Who is there independently existing without having a father? What is that science?</p>
<p>Guest (2): It's not necessarily in the science itself...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, this is a sign, that if there is a man, he must have a father. This is science. So what is your opinion about this science?</p>
<p>Guest (1): I see it as a straight, deductive logic. If there is a...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...son, there must be father. That is science.</p>
<p>Guest (1): Don't you think this kind of reasoning is a deductive logic rather than inductive?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, what is the reasoning yours, that you deny father?</p>
<p>Guest (3): The father must have a father too, mustn't he?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Similarly, there must be supreme father.</p>
<p>Guest (3): Well, who is the supreme father's father?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that is enquiry, that you have got your father, your father has got father, he has got his father, he has got... Who is the supreme father? He is God.</p></div>
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<div id="MorningWalkJuly111975Chicago_1" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="139" link="Morning Walk -- July 11, 1975, Chicago" link_text="Morning Walk -- July 11, 1975, Chicago">
<div class="heading">It is admitted that inductive logic is imperfect; deductive logic is perfect.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 11, 1975, Chicago|Morning Walk -- July 11, 1975, Chicago]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Jayatīrtha: Once you said the missing link was your foot in their face. (laughter) (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: ...logic also it is admitted that inductive logic is imperfect; deductive logic is perfect. (break) ...logic means śrota-panthā, paramparā, śruti, Vedic language, śruti. Śruti pramāṇa. Pramāṇa means evidence, and śruti means Veda. Pratyakṣa, anumāna, śruti. Pratyakṣa means direct, direct evidence, and anumāna, hypothesis. That is Darwin's theory, something like that. And śruti, Vedic. So out of these three kinds of evidences, śruti-pramāṇa is accepted as supreme, neither anumāna nor pratyakṣa. Pratyakṣa, you are seeing the sky, but you cannot say the length and breadth. You cannot say. You are seeing daily. If you say, "I have got this telescope," so that is an imperfect. and how you can see with your eyes directly, direct sense perception? Hypothesis, anumāna, guessing, that is also not perfect. And śruti, we take śruti from the perfect person, Kṛṣṇa. He says, aham evāsam agre: "Before the creation I was there." We take simply.</p></div>
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