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<div id="RoomConversationJanuary191977Bhuvanesvara_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="32" link="Room Conversation -- January 19, 1977, Bhuvanesvara" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 19, 1977, Bhuvanesvara">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 19, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Room Conversation -- January 19, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Rāmeśvara: But they have never used it against us. But now they have started. One devotee, a girl from Berkeley temple who is a very big book distributor... Sometimes she could collect five, six hundred dollars in one day. She was just kidnapped—by order of the court. They have a psychologist who listens to the parents' description, and on the basis of that secondhand report the psychologist...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, kidnapping, that is already law there. If one is minor or without the permission of the parent, with police force she or..., can be kidnapped.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: But this is not for minors. This is for adults.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh. Oh.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: This is a new thing, that the psychologist will write some report to the court that "Based on the information I have received, this person is not mentally competent. Therefore this person must be put under the guardianship of their parents even if they are an adult. Otherwise they will harm themselves." So in this way the psychologists...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: But any psychologist will give report or anyone can...</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: Anyone. You just pay him, and he'll give you a report. They are rascals. And then the court issues an order that "Now this person's freedom is taken away," and she's put under the charge of her family for thirty days. Then they come with the police, and they give the paper, and they take her away by force, and they fly her to one of these camps where they harass her for thirty days.</p>
<p>Gargamuni: Brainwash.</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: Try to break their faith.</p>
<p>Gargamuni: Actually they are brainwashing.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So this can be done by law?</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: They have some law, and they are misusing it for this purpose.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Then what to do?</p>
<p>Rāmeśvara: Well we have... I mentioned we have got these lawyers who want to start a nationwide organization to fight this law for us. So the head of this group is in San Francisco...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Now, the... Externally, it appears that anyone can be kidnapped simply by the certificate of the psychologist.</p>
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<div id="EveningDarsanaFebruary251977Mayapura_1" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="104" link="Evening Darsana -- February 25, 1977, Mayapura" link_text="Evening Darsana -- February 25, 1977, Mayapura">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Evening Darsana -- February 25, 1977, Mayapura|Evening Darsana -- February 25, 1977, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Cāru: Śrīla Prabhupāda? There's some devotees here from Berkeley temple, and they'd like to make a gift. These are some pictures of the temple which has just been newly redecorated. That's the siṁha-dvāra.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: It's all based on Jagannātha Purī.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Oh. Nice, very nice.</p>
<p>Cāru: Devotee named Bhāskara made those.</p>
<p>Bali-mardana: This is Australian devotee, Bhāskara. (laughter) He has collected.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is done in America? This?</p>
<p>Cāru: Yes. In Berkeley.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is temple?</p>
<p>Devotees: Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Very nice.</p>
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<div id="LettertoHamsadutaLondon7December1969_0" class="quote" parent="1969_Correspondence" book="Let" index="715" link="Letter to Hamsaduta -- London 7 December, 1969" link_text="Letter to Hamsaduta -- London 7 December, 1969">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Hamsaduta -- London 7 December, 1969|Letter to Hamsaduta -- London 7 December, 1969]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Regarding Citsukhananda, he needn't bother at present to translate into Spanish. Unless we have got branches in some country where the Spanish language is important, he should not divert his attention. Regarding the little boy named Jimmy and his mother, the mother may do work; just like sweeping, cleansing the temple, collecting flowers, making garlands, washing dishes, etc. The boy should be trained to be a nice brahmacari, but it is risky to keep a boy of this age away from the public schools. In your country the law is very strict to send such minor children to school. The best thing will be to send him to New Vrindaban to be taken taken care of by Kirtanananda, Ranadhira, Satyabhama, Syama Dasi and Paramananda. They are already taking care of some young boys who are there. They are trying to develop a school of our ideal in that place. So after some time, if the mother sticks to our principles, the child may be sent to New Vrindaban and she can remain in the temple and gradually be initiated. In the meantime, encourage her to read our literature and books, and be engaged in some service as above mentioned.</p>
<p>Please offer my blessings to all of the other devotees in your Berkeley center. I hope this will meet all of you in good health.</p>
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<div id="LettertoDavidAlanLadnerMayapur9February1976_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Correspondence" book="Let" index="119" link="Letter to David Alan Ladner -- Mayapur 9 February, 1976" link_text="Letter to David Alan Ladner -- Mayapur 9 February, 1976">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to David Alan Ladner -- Mayapur 9 February, 1976|Letter to David Alan Ladner -- Mayapur 9 February, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">It is very nice that you chant and take prasadam with our devotees in Berkeley. Please continue to chant Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare and your life will most certainly become perfect. Actually real peace is to spread this chanting everywhere. That we are doing.</p>
<p>Regarding your request for money, we ourselves are beggars and if we do get some money, we immediately use it to spread the chanting of the holy name of Krishna.</p>
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