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	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 9, 1974, Los Angeles\|Morning Walk -- January 9, 1974, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: All so-called religions, they're simply cheating. Cheating. Dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavaḥ. Kaitavaḥ means cheating. Everything is cheating. They say, "We are advancing." What you are advancing? The problem, birth-death, is there. So what is the meaning of your advancement? Dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavo 'tra paramo nirmatsarāṇām ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.2\|SB 1.1.2]]).</p>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 9, 1974, Los Angeles\|Morning Walk -- January 9, 1974, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: All so-called religions, they're simply cheating. Cheating. Dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavaḥ. Kaitavaḥ means cheating. Everything is cheating. They say, "We are advancing." What you are advancing? The problem, birth-death, is there. So what is the meaning of your advancement? Dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavo 'tra paramo nirmatsarāṇām ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.2\|SB 1.1.2]]).</p>
	<p>Prajāpati: This is the only means, then, to get off that manorathena.</p>		<p>Prajāpati: This is the only means, then, to get off that manorathena.</p>
	<p>Prabhupāda: Manorathena, yes. Manorathena means if you remain on that platform, then you have to reject again. Just they are doing, the so-called scientists, philosophers. They are putting forward some theory, and after some time they reject it. So if you remain on the mental platform, then this business of accepting and rejecting will go on. You'll never come to a conclusion. Therefore one has to rise to the spiritual platform. That is nityaḥ śāśvato 'yam, na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20\|BG 2.20]]). That is eternal, everlasting.</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: Manorathena, yes. Manorathena means if you remain on that platform, then you have to reject again. Just they are doing, the so-called scientists, philosophers. They are putting forward some theory, and after some time they reject it. So if you remain on the mental platform, then this business of accepting and rejecting will go on. You'll never come to a conclusion. Therefore one has to rise to the spiritual platform. That is nityaḥ śāśvato 'yam, na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20 (1972)\|BG 2.20]]). That is eternal, everlasting.</p>
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	<p>"Attaining repeated birth amongst the species of demoniac life, such persons can never approach Me. Gradually they sink down to the most abominable type of existence."</p>		<p>"Attaining repeated birth amongst the species of demoniac life, such persons can never approach Me. Gradually they sink down to the most abominable type of existence."</p>
	<p>Prabhupāda: Just to keep you everlastingly in darkness He shows this līlā, that "See? I am dying. You are right that I am a man." Avajānanti māṁ mūḍhā ([[Vanisource:BG 9.11\|BG 9.11]]). "You rascal, mūḍha, you remain in that condition." This is explanation. Otherwise how Kṛṣṇa can die? We do not die, His part and parcel. And how He can die?</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: Just to keep you everlastingly in darkness He shows this līlā, that "See? I am dying. You are right that I am a man." Avajānanti māṁ mūḍhā ([[Vanisource:BG 9.11 (1972)\|BG 9.11]]). "You rascal, mūḍha, you remain in that condition." This is explanation. Otherwise how Kṛṣṇa can die? We do not die, His part and parcel. And how He can die?</p>
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	<p>Prabhupāda: Hm? Yes. That is our preaching.</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: Hm? Yes. That is our preaching.</p>
	<p>Satsvarūpa: And if they submit, they'll never have to suffer again.</p>		<p>Satsvarūpa: And if they submit, they'll never have to suffer again.</p>
	<p>Prabhupāda: Again. That's it. That is our proposal. We say, "You rascal, you don't be overintelligent. You submit to God. You'll be happy. Because you cannot become intelligent, you are rascal. So give up this rascaldom. sarva-dharmān parityajya ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66\|BG 18.66]]), whatever you have created, all rascaldom. Simply surrender to Kṛṣṇa. Then you'll be happy. Your science, your politics, your philosophy, your so on, so on, so on—all rascaldom. Sarva-dharmān. You are thinking that we have created so many humanitarianism, this ism, that ism, that." We say these are all rascaldom. The sooner you give up this habit, simply surrender to Kṛṣṇa, you...</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: Again. That's it. That is our proposal. We say, "You rascal, you don't be overintelligent. You submit to God. You'll be happy. Because you cannot become intelligent, you are rascal. So give up this rascaldom. sarva-dharmān parityajya ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66 (1972)\|BG 18.66]]), whatever you have created, all rascaldom. Simply surrender to Kṛṣṇa. Then you'll be happy. Your science, your politics, your philosophy, your so on, so on, so on—all rascaldom. Sarva-dharmān. You are thinking that we have created so many humanitarianism, this ism, that ism, that." We say these are all rascaldom. The sooner you give up this habit, simply surrender to Kṛṣṇa, you...</p>
	<p>Yogeśvara: So in other words, we're not advocating change of position. Just change of consciousness.</p>		<p>Yogeśvara: So in other words, we're not advocating change of position. Just change of consciousness.</p>
	<p>Prabhupāda: There is no change of position. You are rascal. You are thinking there is change of position. There is no change of position. The sun is everlastingly rising from the east. You cannot change that.</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: There is no change of position. You are rascal. You are thinking there is change of position. There is no change of position. The sun is everlastingly rising from the east. You cannot change that.</p>

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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="4" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1971 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1971 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationDecember121971Delhi_0" class="quote" parent="1971_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="32" link="Room Conversation -- December 12, 1971, Delhi" link_text="Room Conversation -- December 12, 1971, Delhi">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- December 12, 1971, Delhi|Room Conversation -- December 12, 1971, Delhi]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotee (3): See the idea is that you could not remember perfectly 'cause the taste is gone, the līlā is death mostly. But it isn't death, the basics are there, but they're teaching death. And so any intelligent person says, "I want to go to Jesus, but then what do I do? If it is everlasting hell, then heaven must be also everlasting, but what do we do?" And if it's void, then it will not keep the people interested, therefore people are leaving religion.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, that is very good reason. There is no hope, better go to hell. (laughter) At least there is something. Never mind. Yes, hopelessness is not good.</p>
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<div id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="7" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkJanuary91974LosAngeles_0" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="5" link="Morning Walk -- January 9, 1974, Los Angeles" link_text="Morning Walk -- January 9, 1974, Los Angeles">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 9, 1974, Los Angeles|Morning Walk -- January 9, 1974, Los Angeles]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: All so-called religions, they're simply cheating. Cheating. Dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavaḥ. Kaitavaḥ means cheating. Everything is cheating. They say, "We are advancing." What you are advancing? The problem, birth-death, is there. So what is the meaning of your advancement? Dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavo 'tra paramo nirmatsarāṇām ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.2|SB 1.1.2]]).</p>
<p>Prajāpati: This is the only means, then, to get off that manorathena.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Manorathena, yes. Manorathena means if you remain on that platform, then you have to reject again. Just they are doing, the so-called scientists, philosophers. They are putting forward some theory, and after some time they reject it. So if you remain on the mental platform, then this business of accepting and rejecting will go on. You'll never come to a conclusion. Therefore one has to rise to the spiritual platform. That is nityaḥ śāśvato 'yam, na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre ([[Vanisource:BG 2.20|BG 2.20]]). That is eternal, everlasting.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationwithRobertGouiranNuclearPhysicistfromEuropeanCenterforNuclearResearchJune51974Geneva_1" class="quote" parent="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="100" link="Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva" link_text="Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva|Room Conversation with Robert Gouiran, Nuclear Physicist from European Center for Nuclear Research -- June 5, 1974, Geneva]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Puṣṭa-kṛṣṇa: "This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, all-pervading, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So any material thing is chedya, you can cut. Any material thing. The five kinds of material things, earth, water, air, you can cut it into divisions. Or it can be burned. It can be evaporated. Or it can be moistened. These things are material things. But the spiritual means just opposite. It cannot be cut. It cannot be dried up. It cannot be moistened. It..., so many things. And that is... We mean anti-matter. Just opposite. Which is possible in the physical world, but is not possible in the spiritual world. That we say anti-matter. But your anti-matter is another matter.</p>
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<div id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="ConversationwithProfessorHopkinsJuly131975Philadelphia_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="143" link="Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia" link_text="Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia|Conversation with Professor Hopkins -- July 13, 1975, Philadelphia]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prof. Hopkins: So that the Puruṣottama always stands beyond, always, is other, in addition to be in also everything that there is.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Unless He is eternally there, then how the devotee will eternally, nitya-yukta upāsana, whom to worship? Nitya-yukta upāsana. Unless Puruṣottama is everlasting Puruṣottama then where is the question of worship everlasting? So the Māyāvādīs, they do not understand.</p>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="MorningWalkJanuary21976Madras_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="1" link="Morning Walk -- January 2, 1976, Madras" link_text="Morning Walk -- January 2, 1976, Madras">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 2, 1976, Madras|Morning Walk -- January 2, 1976, Madras]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Acyutānanda: So the people on the sun have earthly bodies...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: ...who can tolerate heat.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. There is no heat. They live.... Just like.... They are not suffocated. They don't feel any inconvenience. They enjoy. Against the waves they enjoy. You cannot go against the waves. They can go, even small fish. You'll find within this there are so many animals, so many. How they are living?</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: Also science cannot explain how it is burning. Where is the fuel supply?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: (laughs) Yes.</p>
<p>Acyutānanda: And there is no smoke, no waste.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Nothing. They are all.... Therefore we say simply "rascals." We have given this title to them everlastingly. All rascals, mūḍha. Mūḍho nābhijānāti mām ebhyaḥ param avyayam. How Kṛṣṇa is working, they do not know.</p>
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<div id="MorningWalkJuly201976NewYork_1" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="224" link="Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York" link_text="Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York|Morning Walk -- July 20, 1976, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, they feel they should explore the unknown.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: That will remain everlastingly unknown. They'll never be able to push. Panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-saṁpragamyaḥ. What is this speed? Even with the speed of mind and air they go many, many millions of years, it will still be... This verse of Brahma-saṁhitā, panthās tu koṭi-śata-vatsara-saṁpragamyo vāyor athāpi manaso muni-puṅgavānām, so 'py asti avicintya-tattve (Bs. 5.34). It is inconceivable. It will never be done. They have some vague idea, "There is no life. There is this. There is that." That's... Real knowledge they'll never get. Real knowledge you'll get from Bhāgavata.</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationAugust251976Hyderabad_2" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="285" link="Room Conversation -- August 25, 1976, Hyderabad" link_text="Room Conversation -- August 25, 1976, Hyderabad">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- August 25, 1976, Hyderabad|Room Conversation -- August 25, 1976, Hyderabad]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Indian man: You mean to say eternally there is a soul and... This ātmā and Paramātmā will remain separate?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore the... Therefore it is said: nitya-yuktā upāsate. Therefore the word is there, nitya-yuktā. Nitya means everlasting.</p>
<p>Indian man: Everlasting. You remain separate.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Separate. And that is a fact.</p>
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div id="RoomConversationJanuary211977Bhuvanesvara_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="38" link="Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Room Conversation -- January 21, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Rāmeśvara: Yes. They'll find out, "Oh, it says God died. What is this?" Then they'll challenge, that "This is not God. Kṛṣṇa is ordinary man."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: What is that?</p>
<p>Hari-śauri:</p>
:āsurīṁ yonim āpannā
:mūḍhā janmani janmani
:mām aprāpyaiva kaunteya
:tato yānty adhamāṁ gatim
:([[Vanisource:BG 16.20|BG 16.20]])
<p>"Attaining repeated birth amongst the species of demoniac life, such persons can never approach Me. Gradually they sink down to the most abominable type of existence."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Just to keep you everlastingly in darkness He shows this līlā, that "See? I am dying. You are right that I am a man." Avajānanti māṁ mūḍhā ([[Vanisource:BG 9.11|BG 9.11]]). "You rascal, mūḍha, you remain in that condition." This is explanation. Otherwise how Kṛṣṇa can die? We do not die, His part and parcel. And how He can die?</p>
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<div id="RoomConversationJanuary311977Bhuvanesvara_1" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="70" link="Room Conversation -- January 31, 1977, Bhuvanesvara" link_text="Room Conversation -- January 31, 1977, Bhuvanesvara">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 31, 1977, Bhuvanesvara|Room Conversation -- January 31, 1977, Bhuvanesvara]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: We preach that "Submit to God." That's all. That is my all preaching. We don't say that you protest against the arrangement of God." We don't say. We simply say, "Whatever arrangement God has made, you submit." That's all.</p>
<p>Hari-śauri: "But understand that it is from God."</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm? Yes. That is our preaching.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: And if they submit, they'll never have to suffer again.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Again. That's it. That is our proposal. We say, "You rascal, you don't be overintelligent. You submit to God. You'll be happy. Because you cannot become intelligent, you are rascal. So give up this rascaldom. sarva-dharmān parityajya ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66|BG 18.66]]), whatever you have created, all rascaldom. Simply surrender to Kṛṣṇa. Then you'll be happy. Your science, your politics, your philosophy, your so on, so on, so on—all rascaldom. Sarva-dharmān. You are thinking that we have created so many humanitarianism, this ism, that ism, that." We say these are all rascaldom. The sooner you give up this habit, simply surrender to Kṛṣṇa, you...</p>
<p>Yogeśvara: So in other words, we're not advocating change of position. Just change of consciousness.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There is no change of position. You are rascal. You are thinking there is change of position. There is no change of position. The sun is everlastingly rising from the east. You cannot change that.</p>
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<div id="1967_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="2" parent="Correspondence" text="1967 Correspondence"><h3>1967 Correspondence</h3>
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<div id="LettertoRayaramaSanFrancisco14December1967_0" class="quote" parent="1967_Correspondence" book="Let" index="233" link="Letter to Rayarama -- San Francisco 14 December, 1967" link_text="Letter to Rayarama -- San Francisco 14 December, 1967">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Rayarama -- San Francisco 14 December, 1967|Letter to Rayarama -- San Francisco 14 December, 1967]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I may inform you that you cannot be fool as you have humbly expressed yourself. Better to remain an ever fool before the spiritual master. But if a disciple is actually fool it reflects on the spiritual master. To think of becoming a fool is the real qualification for a bona fide disciple. As soon as one thinks that he has become the wiser man than the spiritual master one is surely doomed. We should remain everlastingly a fool before the spiritual master. Not artificially but feelingly and then we can make real progress. Even my spiritual master a great scholar remained a so called fool before His spiritual master Who was outwardly an illiterate village fellow. So in the Absolute world the fool is also the master and the master is also a fool in reciprocal exchange of dealings. Lord Caitanya also accepted Himself a great fool before His spiritual master and all of us must follow the transcendental process.</p>
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<div id="LettertoKrsnaDeviSanFrancisco21December1967_1" class="quote" parent="1967_Correspondence" book="Let" index="243" link="Letter to Krsna Devi -- San Francisco 21 December, 1967" link_text="Letter to Krsna Devi -- San Francisco 21 December, 1967">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Krsna Devi -- San Francisco 21 December, 1967|Letter to Krsna Devi -- San Francisco 21 December, 1967]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">We should learn to depend on Krishna more and more. Actually, Krishna is always guiding us as Supersoul, but due to our forgetfulness, we do not understand that Krishna is friend everlasting. With advance of Krishna Consciousness one is able to realize that Krishna is always with His devotees—not only with His devotees, also with the non-devotees, but the devotees can recognize His Presence and the non-devotees cannot. The more you make advancement in Krishna Consciousness you will see Krishna everywhere.</p>
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<div id="LettertoKurusresthaAhmedabad26September1975_0" class="quote" parent="1975_Correspondence" book="Let" index="564" link="Letter to Kurusrestha -- Ahmedabad 26 September, 1975" link_text="Letter to Kurusrestha -- Ahmedabad 26 September, 1975">
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Kurusrestha -- Ahmedabad 26 September, 1975|Letter to Kurusrestha -- Ahmedabad 26 September, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Your country is very much liked by me, and I am sure that if your country takes this Krishna consciousness movement than nobody will be able to vanquish America at any time. With this aim in view try to convert your great country to become krishna conscious. There is a good chance for it, so if you try, you can do it. That is my opinion. I like America very much. So many good boys have come to me from America. Unless your country is good, how could good boys and girls come? You are not poverty sticken. That is a great qualification. You have all good qualities. You are open-minded people. So please go on breaking every month the records of how money you send to BBT. The more you go on in this way, the more your country will go on everlastingly.</p>
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