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		<title>Visnu Murti at 14:44, 13 November 2022</title>
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		<title>Visnu Murti: Created page with &#039;&lt;div id=&quot;compilation&quot;&gt; &lt;div id=&quot;facts&quot;&gt; {{terms|&quot;family guru&quot;}} {{notes|}} {{compiler|Visnu Murti}} {{complete|ALL}} {{first|31Oct12}} {{last|31Oct12}} {{totals_by_section|BG=0|S…&#039;</title>
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&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;sub_section&amp;quot; sec_index=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; parent=&amp;quot;Lectures&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;h3&amp;gt;Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures&amp;lt;/h3&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;LectureonSB1849MayapuraOctober291974_0&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;quote&amp;quot; parent=&amp;quot;Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures&amp;quot; book=&amp;quot;Lec&amp;quot; index=&amp;quot;258&amp;quot; link=&amp;quot;Lecture on SB 1.8.49 -- Mayapura, October 29, 1974&amp;quot; link_text=&amp;quot;Lecture on SB 1.8.49 -- Mayapura, October 29, 1974&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;heading&amp;quot;&amp;gt;So Śukrācārya was rejected by Bali Mahārāja, Śukrācārya. &amp;quot;No, this family guru or the jāta-gosāi, no.&amp;quot; Real guru. So why rejected? When Śukrācārya was thinking that &amp;quot;This man Bali is going to give everything to Viṣṇu. Here is Vāmana. Then how I shall live? Because I get something from this man, and I live. So if he&amp;#039;s going to give everything to Viṣṇu, then what is our position? We shall starve.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;link&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.8.49 -- Mayapura, October 29, 1974|Lecture on SB 1.8.49 -- Mayapura, October 29, 1974]]: &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;display: inline;&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;text&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p style=&amp;quot;display: inline;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;So there are many instances. Bali Mahārāja. Bali Mahārāja he rejected his spiritual master: &amp;quot;Oh, you are nonsense. You cannot become my spiritual master.&amp;quot; Because why? That Śukrācārya, when Bali Mahārāja was going to promise, so Śukrācārya advised, &amp;quot;Don&amp;#039;t promise anything. He is Viṣṇu. He has come as dwarf to take everything from you.&amp;quot; Then Bali Mahārāja found that &amp;quot;This is a foolish man.&amp;quot; This Śukrācārya, Śukrācārya means jāta-gosāi, by semina they become ācārya. The semina. That is the, in India, guru-vaṁśa. Guru-vaṁśa, guru means spiritual master. The spiritual master, vaṁśa. That is disciplic succession. Evaṁ paramparā, that is guru-vaṁśa, not by semina. That is going on. The Śukrācārya: &amp;quot;This is my guru&amp;#039;s family.&amp;quot; Guru&amp;#039;s family... &amp;quot;He has begotten a child, so something must be given. His credit is he&amp;#039;s begotten child. Therefore something must be given.&amp;quot; So this is going on, Śukrācārya. So Śukrācārya was rejected by Bali Mahārāja, Śukrācārya. &amp;quot;No, this family guru or the jāta-gosāi, no.&amp;quot; Real guru. So why rejected? When Śukrācārya was thinking that &amp;quot;This man Bali is going to give everything to Viṣṇu. Here is Vāmana. Then how I shall live? Because I get something from this man, and I live. So if he&amp;#039;s going to give everything to Viṣṇu, then what is our position? We shall starve.&amp;quot; That is their business only, how to exploit the disciple and take money from him and fill up the belly. That is Śukrācārya&amp;#039;s business. Therefore Bali Mahārāja rejected, &amp;quot;No, no, I don&amp;#039;t want you.&amp;quot; So there are many instances. Svajana-tyāga. The gopīs, when they were going to Kṛṣṇa, they, all the svajana, their brother, the husband, their sons and everyone forbade, &amp;quot;Oh, where you are going, where you are going?&amp;quot; Or the yājñika brāhmaṇas&amp;#039; patnī, they also did not care for Kṛṣṇa.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;Conversations_and_Morning_Walks&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;section&amp;quot; sec_index=&amp;quot;5&amp;quot; parent=&amp;quot;compilation&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;Conversations and Morning Walks&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt;Conversations and Morning Walks&amp;lt;/h2&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;sub_section&amp;quot; sec_index=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; parent=&amp;quot;Conversations_and_Morning_Walks&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;1977 Conversations and Morning Walks&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;h3&amp;gt;1977 Conversations and Morning Walks&amp;lt;/h3&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;RoomConversationJanuary81977Bombay_0&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;quote&amp;quot; parent=&amp;quot;1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks&amp;quot; book=&amp;quot;Con&amp;quot; index=&amp;quot;16&amp;quot; link=&amp;quot;Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay&amp;quot; link_text=&amp;quot;Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;heading&amp;quot;&amp;gt;He is the son of our priest. Family priest, family guru, vipra-mātā, still in Hindu family, the system is still going on, brāhmaṇa visiting daily.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;link&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay]]: &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;text&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p style=&amp;quot;display: inline;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Prabhupāda: Another system is: during the initiation time, somebody becomes godmother of the brahmacārī and gives some money.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Hari-śauri: It&amp;#039;s described here. It says, &amp;quot;Kuvera gave Him a pot for begging alms, and mother Bhagavati, the wife of Lord Śiva and most chaste mother of the entire universe, gave Him His first alms.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;Prabhupāda: Bhikṣa-mātā. Bhikṣa means giving alms. At least every woman becomes a bhikṣa-mātā, alms-giving mother. This is system. My mother was bhikṣa-mātā to one brāhmaṇa. He is the son of our priest. Family priest, family guru, vipra-mātā, still in Hindu family, the system is still going on, brāhmaṇa visiting daily, informing, &amp;quot;Today is this tithi. The duty is this, the sunrise at this time is...&amp;quot; This is brāhmaṇa&amp;#039;s duty, to go to the neighboring householders, and whatever they give, take. That is brāhmaṇa&amp;#039;s art. At the same time, they keep some medicine. Every house there is some ailments. They&amp;#039;ll give some medicine. Still. Now it is not so... In our childhood every day some brāhmaṇa visitor would come. So I will take massage like yesterday, early.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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