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	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 1.4.23\|SB 1.4.23, Translation ~~and Purport~~]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">All these learned scholars, in their turn, rendered their entrusted Vedas unto their many disciples, grand-disciples and great grand-disciples, and thus the respective branches of the followers of the Vedas came into being~~.</p>~~		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 1.4.23\|SB 1.4.23, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">All these learned scholars, in their turn, rendered their entrusted Vedas unto their many disciples, grand-disciples and great grand-disciples, and thus the respective branches of the followers of the Vedas came into being.</p>
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	<div class="purport text"><p>The original source of knowledge is the Vedas. There are no branches of knowledge, either mundane or transcendental, which do not belong to the original text of the Vedas. They have simply been developed into different branches, They were originally rendered by great, respectable and learned professors. In other words, the Vedic knowledge, broken into different branches by different disciplic successions, has been distributed all over the world. No one, therefore, can claim independent knowledge beyond the Vedas.</p>
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	<div class="heading">~~From each branch~~ of the ~~tree have grown hundreds and thousands~~ of ~~subbranches~~ of ~~disciples and granddisciples~~.		<div class="heading">It was the desire of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu that His cult be spread all over the world. Therefore there is a great necessity for many, many disciples of the branches of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu's disciplic succession.
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	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 10.160\|CC Adi 10.160, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">From each branch of the tree have grown hundreds and thousands of subbranches of disciples and granddisciples.</p>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 10.160\|CC Adi 10.160, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">From each branch of the tree have grown hundreds and thousands of subbranches of disciples and granddisciples.</p>
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	<div class="heading">They're his disciple. Who is initiating. He is granddisciple. When I order, "You become guru," he becomes regular guru. That's all. He becomes disciple of my disciple.		<div class="heading">They're his disciple. Who is initiating. He is granddisciple. When I order, "You become guru," he becomes regular guru. That's all. He becomes disciple of my disciple.
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	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:GBC Meets with Srila Prabhupada -- May 28, 1977, Vrndavana\|GBC Meets with Srila Prabhupada -- May 28, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Satsvarūpa: ~~By the votes of the present GBC.~~ Then our next question concerns initiations in the future, particularly at that time when you're no longer with us. We want to know how first and second initiation would be conducted.</p>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:GBC Meets with Srila Prabhupada -- May 28, 1977, Vrndavana\|GBC Meets with Srila Prabhupada -- May 28, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Satsvarūpa: Then our next question concerns initiations in the future, particularly at that time when you're no longer with us. We want to know how first and second initiation would be conducted.</p>
	<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. I shall recommend some of you. After this is settled up, I shall recommend some of you to act as officiating ācāryas.</p>		<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. I shall recommend some of you. After this is settled up, I shall recommend some of you to act as officiating ācāryas.</p>
	<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is that called ṛtvik-ācārya?</p>		<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is that called ṛtvik-ācārya?</p>

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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam" class="section" sec_index="1" parent="compilation" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam"><h2>Srimad-Bhagavatam</h2>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 1.4.23|SB 1.4.23, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">All these learned scholars, in their turn, rendered their entrusted Vedas unto their many disciples, grand-disciples and great grand-disciples, and thus the respective branches of the followers of the Vedas came into being.</p>
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<div class="purport text"><p>The original source of knowledge is the Vedas. There are no branches of knowledge, either mundane or transcendental, which do not belong to the original text of the Vedas. They have simply been developed into different branches, They were originally rendered by great, respectable and learned professors. In other words, the Vedic knowledge, broken into different branches by different disciplic successions, has been distributed all over the world. No one, therefore, can claim independent knowledge beyond the Vedas.</p>
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<div id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta" class="section" sec_index="2" parent="compilation" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta"><h2>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta</h2>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 9.24|CC Adi 9.24, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Thus the disciples and the granddisciples and their admirers spread throughout the entire world, and it is not possible to enumerate them all.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 10.16|CC Adi 10.16, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">His disciples and granddisciples are his subbranches. To describe them all would be difficult.</p>
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<div class="heading">From each branch of the tree have grown hundreds and thousands of subbranches of disciples and granddisciples.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:CC Adi 10.160|CC Adi 10.160, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">From each branch of the tree have grown hundreds and thousands of subbranches of disciples and granddisciples.</p>
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<div class="purport text"><p>It was the desire of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu that His cult be spread all over the world. Therefore there is a great necessity for many, many disciples of the branches of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu's disciplic succession. His cult should be spread not only in a few villages, or in Bengal, or in India, but all over the world. It is very regrettable that complacent so-called devotees criticize the members of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness for accepting sannyāsa and spreading the cult of Lord Caitanya all over the world. It is not our business to criticize anyone, but because they try to find fault with this movement, the real truth must be stated. Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu wanted devotees all over the world, and Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura and Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura confirmed this. It is in pursuit of their will that the ISKCON movement is spreading all over the world. Genuine devotees of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu must take pride in the spread of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement instead of viciously criticizing its propaganda work.</p>
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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div class="heading">They're his disciple. Who is initiating. He is granddisciple. When I order, "You become guru," he becomes regular guru. That's all. He becomes disciple of my disciple.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:GBC Meets with Srila Prabhupada -- May 28, 1977, Vrndavana|GBC Meets with Srila Prabhupada -- May 28, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Satsvarūpa: By the votes of the present GBC. Then our next question concerns initiations in the future, particularly at that time when you're no longer with us. We want to know how first and second initiation would be conducted.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. I shall recommend some of you. After this is settled up, I shall recommend some of you to act as officiating ācāryas.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is that called ṛtvik-ācārya?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Ṛtvik, yes.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: Then what is the relationship of that person who gives the initiation and the...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: He's guru. He's guru.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: But he does it on your behalf.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. That is formality. Because in my presence one should not become guru, so on my behalf, on my order... Āmāra ājñāya guru hañā ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 7.128|CC Madhya 7.128]]). Be actually guru, but by my order.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: So they may also be considered your disciples.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, they are disciples. Why consider? Who?</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, he's asking that these ṛtvik-ācāryas, they're officiating, giving dīkṣā. Their... The people who they give dīkṣā to, whose disciple are they?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: They're his disciple.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They're his disciple.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Who is initiating. He is granddisciple.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: Yes.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's clear.</p>
<p>Satsvarūpa: Then we have a question concer...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: When I order, "You become guru," he becomes regular guru. That's all. He becomes disciple of my disciple. That's it.</p>
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Granddisciple - Revision history

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