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	== Lectures ==		<div class="section" id="Lectures" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2></div>

	=== Philosophy Discussions ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="Philosophy_Discussions" text="Philosophy Discussions"><h3>Philosophy Discussions</h3></div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">~~'''~~He comes to the circumstances. Therefore the morality should be according to the circumstances.~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="quote" book="Lec" link="Philosophy Discussion on Immanuel Kant" link_text="Philosophy Discussion on Immanuel Kant">
			<div class="heading">He comes to the circumstances. Therefore the morality should be according to the circumstances.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~LEC-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Immanuel Kant\|Philosophy Discussion on Immanuel Kant]]:'''		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Immanuel Kant\|Philosophy Discussion on Immanuel Kant]]:'''

	Śyāmasundara: So the real categorical imperative is to obey the Supreme.		Śyāmasundara: So the real categorical imperative is to obey the Supreme.
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	Śyāmasundara: In wars.		Śyāmasundara: In wars.

	Prabhupāda: In any circumstances. It is not that killing is stopped, although the state is meant for prohibiting killing. But there is still in the slaughterhouse killing is going on, in war killing is going on, and so many other places killing is going on.</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: In any circumstances. It is not that killing is stopped, although the state is meant for prohibiting killing. But there is still in the slaughterhouse killing is going on, in war killing is going on, and so many other places killing is going on.</div>
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	== Conversations and Morning Walks ==		<div class="section" id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2></div>

	=== 1975 Conversations and Morning Walks ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="1975_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1975 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1975 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">~~'''~~ I will be successful when everyone will chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation with Dr. Copeland, Professor of Modern Indian History -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne" link_text="Room Conversation with Dr. Copeland, Professor of Modern Indian History -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne">
			<div class="heading">I will be successful when everyone will chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~CON-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Dr. Copeland, Professor of Modern Indian History -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne\|Room Conversation with Dr. Copeland, Professor of Modern Indian History -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne]]:'''		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Dr. Copeland, Professor of Modern Indian History -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne\|Room Conversation with Dr. Copeland, Professor of Modern Indian History -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne]]:'''

	Dr. Copeland: You don't know about the Ba'hai religion.		Dr. Copeland: You don't know about the Ba'hai religion.
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	Dr. Copeland: (laughs) Very good.		Dr. Copeland: (laughs) Very good.

	Prabhupāda: I will be successful when everyone will chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: I will be successful when everyone will chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.</div>
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	=== 1977 Conversations and Morning Walks ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">~~'''~~Yes. Why not make that? This political change, this political situation change, it will go on.~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Room Conversation with Ratan Singh Rajda M.P. Nationalism and Cheating -- April 15, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation with Ratan Singh Rajda M.P. "Nationalism and Cheating" -- April 15, 1977, Bombay">
			<div class="heading">Yes. Why not make that? This political change, this political situation change, it will go on.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~CON-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Ratan Singh Rajda M.P. "Nationalism and Cheating" -- April 15, 1977, Bombay\|Room Conversation with Ratan Singh Rajda M.P. "Nationalism and Cheating" -- April 15, 1977, Bombay]]:'''		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Ratan Singh Rajda M.P. "Nationalism and Cheating" -- April 15, 1977, Bombay\|Room Conversation with Ratan Singh Rajda M.P. "Nationalism and Cheating" -- April 15, 1977, Bombay]]:'''

	Mr. Rajda: That's a novel thing, no, novel thing.		Mr. Rajda: That's a novel thing, no, novel thing.
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	Mr. Rajda: It has got to be institutionalized.		Mr. Rajda: It has got to be institutionalized.

	Prabhupāda: Yes. Why not make that? This political change, this political situation change, it will go on. Today you are powerful. Tomorrow I am powerful. That does not make any difference. Indira Gandhi was so powerful. In one day everything finished. So it may be finished, my position. Mohitaṁ nābhijānāti mām ebhyaḥ param avyayam [Bg. 7.13]. Tribhir guṇamayair bhāvaiḥ. They do not know, behind these all activities there is a person who can do anything He likes. So what about to know about Him? So these things are there in India. The knowledge is not secret. It is open. So without distorting it, without breaking it and spoiling it, why not give it as it is for the benefit of the whole humanity? You are young man. You can think over.</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: Yes. Why not make that? This political change, this political situation change, it will go on. Today you are powerful. Tomorrow I am powerful. That does not make any difference. Indira Gandhi was so powerful. In one day everything finished. So it may be finished, my position. Mohitaṁ nābhijānāti mām ebhyaḥ param avyayam [Bg. 7.13]. Tribhir guṇamayair bhāvaiḥ. They do not know, behind these all activities there is a person who can do anything He likes. So what about to know about Him? So these things are there in India. The knowledge is not secret. It is open. So without distorting it, without breaking it and spoiling it, why not give it as it is for the benefit of the whole humanity? You are young man. You can think over.</div>
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== Lectures ==

=== Philosophy Discussions ===

'''He comes to the circumstances. Therefore the morality should be according to the circumstances.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Philosophy Discussion on Immanuel Kant|Philosophy Discussion on Immanuel Kant]]:'''

Śyāmasundara: So the real categorical imperative is to obey the Supreme.

Prabhupāda: That is right. That is moral. Other things, all immoral.

Śyāmasundara: He says that we must follow our duty—not mechanically, but out of respect for it.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Suppose if I say that "You do this," just like Kṛṣṇa says that "You go and say Droṇācārya." So unless he has got implicit faith... Yudhiṣṭhira was lacking that implicit faith. Therefore he said, "How can I say such lies?" But Arjuna is better than Yudhiṣṭhira. He thought that "Although I am thinking it is very moral not to kill my relatives, but Kṛṣṇa likes it, I must do it." That's all.

Śyāmasundara: He says that ethics or morality should be institutionalized, regardless of the individual circumstances.

Prabhupāda: He comes to the circumstances. Therefore the morality should be according to the circumstances.

Śyāmasundara: He says the opposite: regardless of individual circumstances, everyone should follow the moral imperative. But we say that circumstances determine how one follows.

Prabhupāda: Then suppose the (indistinct) state, "Thou shalt not kill." So why killing is going on?

Śyāmasundara: In wars.

Prabhupāda: In any circumstances. It is not that killing is stopped, although the state is meant for prohibiting killing. But there is still in the slaughterhouse killing is going on, in war killing is going on, and so many other places killing is going on.

== Conversations and Morning Walks ==

=== 1975 Conversations and Morning Walks ===

''' I will be successful when everyone will chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Dr. Copeland, Professor of Modern Indian History -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne|Room Conversation with Dr. Copeland, Professor of Modern Indian History -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne]]:'''

Dr. Copeland: You don't know about the Ba'hai religion.

Prabhupāda: (To devotees) Do you know the Ba'hai?

Madhudviṣa: They have more or less... They accept all religions, and part of their worship is Kṛṣṇa. They have the person of Kṛṣṇa. But the difference is that we accept Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, whereas the Ba'hais...

Prabhupāda: That and many others, they also do that. They also worship Jesus Christ. That is... [break] We have no disrespect for anyone.

Dr. Copeland: And you've been rather successful in institutionalizing your religion, getting a large number of temples constructed or built or taken over, and a large number of followers.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Dr. Copeland: Why do you think you are so successful?

Prabhupāda: I don't think I am successful, but people say.

Dr. Copeland: (laughs) Very good.

Prabhupāda: I will be successful when everyone will chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.

=== 1977 Conversations and Morning Walks ===

'''Yes. Why not make that? This political change, this political situation change, it will go on.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Ratan Singh Rajda M.P. "Nationalism and Cheating" -- April 15, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation with Ratan Singh Rajda M.P. "Nationalism and Cheating" -- April 15, 1977, Bombay]]:'''

Mr. Rajda: That's a novel thing, no, novel thing.

Prabhupāda: So unless there is something substantial... They are intelligent.

Mr. Rajda: Intelligent people.

Prabhupāda: Why they should accept this? And this is one man's attempt.

Mr. Rajda: It has got to be institutionalized.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Why not make that? This political change, this political situation change, it will go on. Today you are powerful. Tomorrow I am powerful. That does not make any difference. Indira Gandhi was so powerful. In one day everything finished. So it may be finished, my position. Mohitaṁ nābhijānāti mām ebhyaḥ param avyayam [Bg. 7.13]. Tribhir guṇamayair bhāvaiḥ. They do not know, behind these all activities there is a person who can do anything He likes. So what about to know about Him? So these things are there in India. The knowledge is not secret. It is open. So without distorting it, without breaking it and spoiling it, why not give it as it is for the benefit of the whole humanity? You are young man. You can think over.