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	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.1.5-6 -- London, August 23, 1971\|Lecture on SB 1.1.5-6 -- London, August 23, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">These Purāṇas... You know, first of all, there is the Veda. Originally, the Veda, Atharva-veda. That is divided now into four: Sāma, Yajur, Atharva, Ṛg. Then all the Vedic instructions are what is called skimmed, concentrated in the Vedānta-sūtra, in one. The Upaniṣads, there are 108 Upaniṣads, and many others. So all the knowledge is concentrated in the Vedānta-sūtra, or Vedānta philosophy. Then again, it is explained for common men by purāṇāni, by Purāṇas. Just like this Purāṇa, this Bhāgavata-Purāṇa. Bhāgavata is also Purāṇa. Purāṇa means old, old history, Purāṇa. And itihāsa means history. But Vedic civilization was concerned with historical evidences which are very, very important. At the present moment, present age, they write history chronologically. One period may be important, one period may not be important, but they write all the history. The Vedic way of writing history was not like that. If you go on writing history... Suppose for millions years of history you write, then where you'll keep the records? It is not possible. Every day so many things are happening, or every year. So that was not the process. Just like autobiography of life. Nobody used to write autobiography. But the life of great kings, sages, saintly persons, they were recorded in the..., here.</p>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.1.5-6 -- London, August 23, 1971\|Lecture on SB 1.1.5-6 -- London, August 23, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">These Purāṇas... You know, first of all, there is the Veda. Originally, the Veda, Atharva-veda. That is divided now into four: Sāma, Yajur, Atharva, Ṛg. Then all the Vedic instructions are what is called skimmed, concentrated in the Vedānta-sūtra, in one. The Upaniṣads, there are 108 Upaniṣads, and many others. So all the knowledge is concentrated in the Vedānta-sūtra, or Vedānta philosophy. Then again, it is explained for common men by purāṇāni, by Purāṇas. Just like this Purāṇa, this Bhāgavata-Purāṇa. Bhāgavata is also Purāṇa. Purāṇa means old, old history, Purāṇa. And itihāsa means history. But Vedic civilization was concerned with historical evidences which are very, very important. At the present moment, present age, they write history chronologically. One period may be important, one period may not be important, but they write all the history. The Vedic way of writing history was not like that. If you go on writing history... Suppose for millions years of history you write, then where you'll keep the records? It is not possible. Every day so many things are happening, or every year. So that was not the process. Just like autobiography of life. Nobody used to write autobiography. But the life of great kings, sages, saintly persons, they were recorded in the..., here.</p>
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			<div id="LectureonSB1156LondonAugust231971_1" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="16" link="Lecture on SB 1.1.5-6 -- London, August 23, 1971" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.1.5-6 -- London, August 23, 1971">
			<div class="heading">Itihāsa means history, and purāṇāni, purāṇāni means old itihāsa.
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			<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.1.5-6 -- London, August 23, 1971\|Lecture on SB 1.1.5-6 -- London, August 23, 1971]]: </span><div class="text">When you go to India, you must see this place, Naimiṣāraṇya. It is very, very old place. At least, from historical point of view, modern estimate is it is five thousand years old, because the first Bhāgavata discussion took place there after instruction of Vyāsadeva. So in India there are many places very suitable for spiritual advancement. Still they're existing from the very, very old time, historical time. So the itihāsa... Itihāsa means history, and purāṇāni, purāṇāni means old itihāsa. All the statements or narrations described in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, they're all historical evidence, they're not imagination. Sometimes the so-called scholars and research students, they say it is fancy or something imagination. No. They're all history. It is said here, itihāsam. Itihāsa means history.
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			<div id="LectureonSB1535VrndavanaAugust161974_2" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="154" link="Lecture on SB 1.5.35 -- Vrndavana, August 16, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 1.5.35 -- Vrndavana, August 16, 1974">
			<div class="heading">Itihāsa means history. So there is Kṛṣṇa, in the itihāsa, in the history.
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			<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.5.35 -- Vrndavana, August 16, 1974\|Lecture on SB 1.5.35 -- Vrndavana, August 16, 1974]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So hari-toṣaṇam or bhagavat-paritoṣaṇam can be possible when we actually know what is God. Otherwise there is no question. So, so far we are concerned, Kṛṣṇa conscious devotees, we know who is God. Therefore this business is possible by us, not by others. We know what is God. We have no vague idea. We know who is God, where does He live, what does He do, His name, address, His father's name—everything we know. Therefore we can satisfy. We are competent to satisfy because we know exactly who is God. That is Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam ([[Vanisource:SB 1.3.28\|SB 1.3.28]]). How do you know that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead? Yes, by history, by authority, by His action, everything complete. We know historical, from historical point of view, Kṛṣṇa is there in the Mahābhārata. Mahābhārata means "The history of great India." Mahā means great. So greater India. Greater India, this is history. Itihāsa. Itihāsa means history. So there is Kṛṣṇa, in the itihāsa, in the history. In the Vedas also, there is name of Kṛṣṇa. In the Yajur Veda, there is name of Kṛṣṇa and His father's name, Vasudeva. Everything is there. And besides that, Kṛṣṇa appeared as He is five thousand years ago and He acted as the Supreme Personality of Godhead.</p>
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			<div id="LectureonSB6120ChicagoJuly41975_3" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="627" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.20 -- Chicago, July 4, 1975" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.20 -- Chicago, July 4, 1975">
			<div class="heading">Itihāsa means some incidence which took place long, long ago, and such incidence is very beneficial to hear so that we can follow. That is called itihāsa.
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			<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.20 -- Chicago, July 4, 1975\|Lecture on SB 6.1.20 -- Chicago, July 4, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So here is, one example is given, itihāsa. Itihāsa means history. The Vedic system of itihāsa, it is not the modern history. Modern... Itihāsa means some incidence which took place long, long ago, and such incidence is very beneficial to hear so that we can follow. That is called itihāsa. It is not chronological record of all incidences. Only important things. Purātanam. Purātanam means old and important. So Śukadeva Gosvāmī is explaining to Parīkṣit Mahārāja how important is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Now he is giving one incidence of history—example is better than precept—how Ajāmila was saved simply by chanting once..., not once, many times, Nārāyaṇa. That is the itihāsaṁ purātanam. In the Vedic literatures there are itihāsas, or histories. Just like Mahābhārata. Mahābhārata is the history. Bhārata means India, and Mahā means greater. Greater India. Just like modern age they use "Greater Britain," "Greater this," so many, same thing. Mahābhārata means "Greater..." Mahā means great, and Bhārata means India. "The history of Greater India."</p>
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			<div id="LectureonSB6122HonoluluMay221976_4" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="633" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.22 -- Honolulu, May 22, 1976" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.22 -- Honolulu, May 22, 1976">
			<div class="heading">So it is not fiction; it is itihāsa, means history.
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			<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.22 -- Honolulu, May 22, 1976\|Lecture on SB 6.1.22 -- Honolulu, May 22, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So gradually the history of Ajāmila. We have already narrated, he was inhabitant of Kānyakubja. It is historical incidence. It is not a fiction, manufactured something. No. History, itihāsa. So in the Vedic literature they are... Everything is itihāsa, history. Just like in the park we were talking of the Milk Ocean. The Milk Ocean is there in some part of the universe, top, near Brahmaloka. So it is not fiction; it is itihāsa, means history. We do not know the universal history. We may know some history of our country or this planet, that's all. But there are millions and trillions of planets.</p>
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<div class="heading">Purāṇa means old, old history, Purāṇa. And itihāsa means history.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.1.5-6 -- London, August 23, 1971|Lecture on SB 1.1.5-6 -- London, August 23, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">These Purāṇas... You know, first of all, there is the Veda. Originally, the Veda, Atharva-veda. That is divided now into four: Sāma, Yajur, Atharva, Ṛg. Then all the Vedic instructions are what is called skimmed, concentrated in the Vedānta-sūtra, in one. The Upaniṣads, there are 108 Upaniṣads, and many others. So all the knowledge is concentrated in the Vedānta-sūtra, or Vedānta philosophy. Then again, it is explained for common men by purāṇāni, by Purāṇas. Just like this Purāṇa, this Bhāgavata-Purāṇa. Bhāgavata is also Purāṇa. Purāṇa means old, old history, Purāṇa. And itihāsa means history. But Vedic civilization was concerned with historical evidences which are very, very important. At the present moment, present age, they write history chronologically. One period may be important, one period may not be important, but they write all the history. The Vedic way of writing history was not like that. If you go on writing history... Suppose for millions years of history you write, then where you'll keep the records? It is not possible. Every day so many things are happening, or every year. So that was not the process. Just like autobiography of life. Nobody used to write autobiography. But the life of great kings, sages, saintly persons, they were recorded in the..., here.</p>
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