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	~~[[Category:Spiritual Master]]~~		<div class="section" id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is"><h2>Bhagavad-gita As It Is</h2></div>

	== ~~Bhagavad~~-~~gita As It Is =~~=		<div class="sub_section" id="BG_Chapters_1_-_6" text="BG Chapters 1 - 6"><h3>BG Chapters 1 - 6</h3></div>

	=== BG ~~Chapters 1 - 6 =~~==		<div class="quote" book="BG" link="BG 4.34" link_text="BG 4.34, Purport">
			<div class="heading">Unless there is submission and service, inquiries from the learned spiritual master will not be effective</div>

	'''Unless there is submission and service, inquiries from the learned spiritual master will not be effective ~~'''~~		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:BG 4.34 (1972)\|BG 4.34, Purport]]:''' One has to approach a bona fide spiritual master to receive the knowledge. Such a spiritual master should be accepted in full surrender, and one should serve the spiritual master like a menial servant, without false prestige. Satisfaction of the self-realized spiritual master is the secret of advancement in spiritual life. Inquiries and submission constitute the proper combination for spiritual understanding. Unless there is submission and service, inquiries from the learned spiritual master will not be effective. One must be able to pass the test of the spiritual master, and when he sees the genuine desire of the disciple, he automatically blesses the disciple with genuine spiritual understanding. In this verse, both blind following and absurd inquiries are condemned. Not only should one hear submissively from the spiritual master, but one must also get a clear understanding from him, in submission and service and inquiries. A bona fide spiritual master is by nature very kind toward the disciple. Therefore when the student is submissive and is always ready to render service, the reciprocation of knowledge and inquiries becomes perfect.</div>
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	<~~span~~ class="BG-~~statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:BG 4.34\|BG 4.34, Purport]]:''' One has to approach a bona fide spiritual master to receive the knowledge. Such a spiritual master should be accepted in full surrender, and one should serve the spiritual master like a menial servant, without false prestige. Satisfaction of the self-realized spiritual master is the secret of advancement in spiritual life. Inquiries and submission constitute the proper combination for spiritual understanding. Unless there is submission and service, inquiries from the learned spiritual master will not be effective. One must be able to pass the test of the spiritual master, and when he sees the genuine desire of the disciple, he automatically blesses the disciple with genuine spiritual understanding. In this verse, both blind following and absurd inquiries are condemned. Not only should one hear submissively from the spiritual master, but one must also get a clear understanding from him, in submission and service and inquiries. A bona fide spiritual master is by nature very kind toward the disciple. Therefore when the student is submissive and is always ready to render service, the reciprocation of knowledge and inquiries becomes perfect.		<div class="section" id="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam"><h2>Srimad-Bhagavatam</h2></div>

	== ~~Srimad-Bhagavatam =~~=		<div class="sub_section" id="SB_Cantos_10.14_to_12_(Translations_Only)" text="SB Cantos 10.14 to 12 (Translations Only)"><h3>SB Cantos 10.14 to 12 (Translations Only)</h3></div>

	=== SB ~~Cantos 10~~.~~14 to 12 (Translations Only) =~~==		<div class="quote" book="SB" link="SB 11.18.38" link_text="SB 11.18.38, Translation">
			<div class="heading">One who has not seriously analyzed the process for obtaining Me, should approach a bona fide and learned spiritual master</div>

	'''One who has not seriously analyzed the process for obtaining Me, should approach a bona fide and learned spiritual master'''		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:SB 11.18.38\|SB 11.18.38, Translation]]: One who is detached from sense gratification, knowing its result to be miserable, and who desires spiritual perfection, but who has not seriously analyzed the process for obtaining Me, should approach a bona fide and learned spiritual master.'''</div>
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	<~~span~~ class="~~SB-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:SB 11.18.38\|SB 11.18.38, Translation]]: One who is detached from sense gratification, knowing its result to be miserable, and who desires spiritual perfection, but who has not seriously analyzed the process for obtaining Me, should approach a bona fide and learned spiritual master.'''		<div class="section" id="Lectures" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2></div>

	== Lectures ==		<div class="sub_section" id="Bhagavad-gita_As_It_Is_Lectures" text="Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures"><h3>Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures</h3></div>

	=== ~~Bhagavad~~-~~gita As It Is Lectures~~ ===		<div class="quote" book="Lec" link="Lecture on BG 4.34-39 -- Los Angeles, January 12, 1969" link_text="Lecture on BG 4.34-39 -- Los Angeles, January 12, 1969">
			<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.34-39 -- Los Angeles, January 12, 1969\|Lecture on BG 4.34-39 -- Los Angeles, January 12, 1969]]:'''
	<~~span~~ class="~~LEC-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.34-39 -- Los Angeles, January 12, 1969\|Lecture on BG 4.34-39 -- Los Angeles, January 12, 1969]]:'''

	Madhudviṣa: "Satisfaction of the self-realized spiritual master is the secret of advancement in spiritual life. Inquiries in submission constitute the proper combination for spiritual understanding. Unless there is submission in service, inquiries from the learned spiritual master will not be effective. One must be able to pass the test of the spiritual master. And when the spiritual master sees the genuine desire of the disciple, he automatically blesses the disciple with genuine spiritual understanding. In this verse both blind following and absurd inquiries are condemned."		Madhudviṣa: "Satisfaction of the self-realized spiritual master is the secret of advancement in spiritual life. Inquiries in submission constitute the proper combination for spiritual understanding. Unless there is submission in service, inquiries from the learned spiritual master will not be effective. One must be able to pass the test of the spiritual master. And when the spiritual master sees the genuine desire of the disciple, he automatically blesses the disciple with genuine spiritual understanding. In this verse both blind following and absurd inquiries are condemned."
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	Prabhupāda: And absurd inquiries. Absurd inquiries... Just like somebody goes to a so-called spiritual master. There are so many stories, that such-and-such person approached his spiritual master, and he asked his spiritual master, "Can you show me God?" And the spiritual master immediately showed him God. You see? This rascaldom is going on.		Prabhupāda: And absurd inquiries. Absurd inquiries... Just like somebody goes to a so-called spiritual master. There are so many stories, that such-and-such person approached his spiritual master, and he asked his spiritual master, "Can you show me God?" And the spiritual master immediately showed him God. You see? This rascaldom is going on.</div>
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	=== Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures ~~===~~		<div class="sub_section" id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures"><h3>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures</h3></div>

	~~'''~~Without understanding the value of life, without associating with abhijñaḥ, learned spiritual master, if he passes his life with this understanding, then he is no better than the cows and ass. This is the verdict~~'''~~		<div class="quote" book="Lec" link="Lecture on CC CC Madhya-lila 20.98-99 -- Washington, D.C., July 4, 1976" link_text="Lecture on CC CC Madhya-lila 20.98-99 -- Washington, D.C., July 4, 1976">
			<div class="heading">Without understanding the value of life, without associating with abhijñaḥ, learned spiritual master, if he passes his life with this understanding, then he is no better than the cows and ass. This is the verdict</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~LEC-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC CC Madhya-lila 20.98-99 -- Washington, D.C., July 4, 1976\|Lecture on CC CC Madhya-lila 20.98-99 -- Washington, D.C., July 4, 1976]]:'''		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC CC Madhya-lila 20.98-99 -- Washington, D.C., July 4, 1976\|Lecture on CC CC Madhya-lila 20.98-99 -- Washington, D.C., July 4, 1976]]:'''

	People in every community, religious community, there is tīrtha. People want (indistinct) holy place. So they go, they take bath. Just like in India they go to Hardwar or Vṛndāvana or Prayag, take bath in the Ganges or Yamunā. Similarly, Christians, they go to take bath in the river Jordan. So everyone has got. Yat-tīrtha-buddhiḥ salile na tad janeṣv abhijñeṣu sa eva go-kharaḥ [SB 10.84.13]. This kind of life is go-kharaḥ. Go means cows, and kharaḥ means ass. Without understanding the value of life, na tad-janeṣv abhijñeṣu, without associating with abhijñaḥ, learned spiritual master, if he passes his life with this understanding, then he is no better than the cows and ass. This is the verdict.		People in every community, religious community, there is tīrtha. People want (indistinct) holy place. So they go, they take bath. Just like in India they go to Hardwar or Vṛndāvana or Prayag, take bath in the Ganges or Yamunā. Similarly, Christians, they go to take bath in the river Jordan. So everyone has got. Yat-tīrtha-buddhiḥ salile na tad janeṣv abhijñeṣu sa eva go-kharaḥ [SB 10.84.13]. This kind of life is go-kharaḥ. Go means cows, and kharaḥ means ass. Without understanding the value of life, na tad-janeṣv abhijñeṣu, without associating with abhijñaḥ, learned spiritual master, if he passes his life with this understanding, then he is no better than the cows and ass. This is the verdict.</div>
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== Bhagavad-gita As It Is ==

=== BG Chapters 1 - 6 ===

'''Unless there is submission and service, inquiries from the learned spiritual master will not be effective '''

<span class="BG-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:BG 4.34|BG 4.34, Purport]]:''' One has to approach a bona fide spiritual master to receive the knowledge. Such a spiritual master should be accepted in full surrender, and one should serve the spiritual master like a menial servant, without false prestige. Satisfaction of the self-realized spiritual master is the secret of advancement in spiritual life. Inquiries and submission constitute the proper combination for spiritual understanding. Unless there is submission and service, inquiries from the learned spiritual master will not be effective. One must be able to pass the test of the spiritual master, and when he sees the genuine desire of the disciple, he automatically blesses the disciple with genuine spiritual understanding. In this verse, both blind following and absurd inquiries are condemned. Not only should one hear submissively from the spiritual master, but one must also get a clear understanding from him, in submission and service and inquiries. A bona fide spiritual master is by nature very kind toward the disciple. Therefore when the student is submissive and is always ready to render service, the reciprocation of knowledge and inquiries becomes perfect.

== Srimad-Bhagavatam ==

=== SB Cantos 10.14 to 12 (Translations Only) ===

'''One who has not seriously analyzed the process for obtaining Me, should approach a bona fide and learned spiritual master'''

<span class="SB-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:SB 11.18.38|SB 11.18.38, Translation]]: One who is detached from sense gratification, knowing its result to be miserable, and who desires spiritual perfection, but who has not seriously analyzed the process for obtaining Me, should approach a bona fide and learned spiritual master.'''

== Lectures ==

=== Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures ===

<span class="LEC-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.34-39 -- Los Angeles, January 12, 1969|Lecture on BG 4.34-39 -- Los Angeles, January 12, 1969]]:'''

Madhudviṣa: "Satisfaction of the self-realized spiritual master is the secret of advancement in spiritual life. Inquiries in submission constitute the proper combination for spiritual understanding. Unless there is submission in service, inquiries from the learned spiritual master will not be effective. One must be able to pass the test of the spiritual master. And when the spiritual master sees the genuine desire of the disciple, he automatically blesses the disciple with genuine spiritual understanding. In this verse both blind following and absurd inquiries are condemned."

Prabhupāda: Yes. Blind following and absurd inquiries. These things are condemned in this verse. Blind following means: "Oh, there is a swami. So many thousands of people are following. Let me become his disciple." This is called blind following. You do not know what is that swami, whether he is a swami or a rascal. You do not know. But because everyone is going, "Oh, let me become his disciple." This is blind following, without any knowledge, blind following. The swami says that "You give me money. I make you immediately God." So this is blind following. And another thing, what it says? What? What is that? Blind following?

Madhudviṣa: Absurd inquiries.

Prabhupāda: And absurd inquiries. Absurd inquiries... Just like somebody goes to a so-called spiritual master. There are so many stories, that such-and-such person approached his spiritual master, and he asked his spiritual master, "Can you show me God?" And the spiritual master immediately showed him God. You see? This rascaldom is going on.

=== Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures ===

'''Without understanding the value of life, without associating with abhijñaḥ, learned spiritual master, if he passes his life with this understanding, then he is no better than the cows and ass. This is the verdict'''

<span class="LEC-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC CC Madhya-lila 20.98-99 -- Washington, D.C., July 4, 1976|Lecture on CC CC Madhya-lila 20.98-99 -- Washington, D.C., July 4, 1976]]:'''

People in every community, religious community, there is tīrtha. People want (indistinct) holy place. So they go, they take bath. Just like in India they go to Hardwar or Vṛndāvana or Prayag, take bath in the Ganges or Yamunā. Similarly, Christians, they go to take bath in the river Jordan. So everyone has got. Yat-tīrtha-buddhiḥ salile na tad janeṣv abhijñeṣu sa eva go-kharaḥ [SB 10.84.13]. This kind of life is go-kharaḥ. Go means cows, and kharaḥ means ass. Without understanding the value of life, na tad-janeṣv abhijñeṣu, without associating with abhijñaḥ, learned spiritual master, if he passes his life with this understanding, then he is no better than the cows and ass. This is the verdict.