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	~~[[Category:Obedience]]~~		<div class="section" id="Lectures" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2></div>

	== Lectures ==		<div class="sub_section" id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures"><h3>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures</h3></div>

	=== ~~Sri Caitanya~~-~~caritamrta Lectures =~~==		<div class="quote" book="Lec" link="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.124-125 -- New York, November 26, 1966" link_text="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.124-125 -- New York, November 26, 1966">
			<div class="heading">Obedience, the first law of discipline.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">'''Obedience, the first law of discipline.'''</~~span~~>		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.124-125 -- New York, November 26, 1966\|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.124-125 -- New York, November 26, 1966]]:''' So anyway, one who takes shelter of Kṛṣṇa, he'll not be put into danger. Rest assured. So 'kṛṣṇa'-sambandha, 'bhakti'-prāptyera sādhana. So I have to revive my relationship. Relationship is there; simply I have forgotten. So I have to revive it, or remember it, that "Oh, I am such and such." Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā su-durlabhaḥ [Bg. 7.19]. I have to become a great soul by surrendering unto God. So that surrendering process is bhakti, or devotional service. My relationship is eternal with the Supreme. I have forgotten it. Now, that relationship is that He is the original father of everything, and we are all sons. So we have to become... We have... So long we have been disobedient. Now we have to become obedient. That's all. This obedience means that... What is called? Obedience, the first law of discipline. So as soon as the people of this world, so-called advanced world, they become obedient to God, then there will be discipline and there will be peace. There is no discipline now. They are not agreeable to follow any rules and regulation. Everyone is God. Everyone is dog. Everyone can do anything, whatever he likes. So there is no discipline. So bhakti, bhakti, devotional service, means to undergo a, a disciplinary system of our life so that automatically we can revive our lost relationship with Lord, God, and we become happy. This is called bhakti. Abhidheya-nāma 'bhakti', 'prema'-prayojana. And why? What is the use? Suppose we don't revive our relationship? Then you'll be disturbed. You are after peace and prosperity.</div>
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	<~~span~~ class="~~LEC-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.124-125 -- New York, November 26, 1966\|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.124-125 -- New York, November 26, 1966]]:''' So anyway, one who takes shelter of Kṛṣṇa, he'll not be put into danger. Rest assured. So 'kṛṣṇa'-sambandha, 'bhakti'-prāptyera sādhana. So I have to revive my relationship. Relationship is there; simply I have forgotten. So I have to revive it, or remember it, that "~~Oh, I am such~~ and ~~such.~~" Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā su-durlabhaḥ [Bg. 7.19]. I have to become a great soul by surrendering unto God. So that surrendering process is bhakti, or devotional service. My relationship is eternal with the Supreme. I have forgotten it. Now, that relationship is that He is the original father of everything, and we are all sons. So we have to become... We have... So long we have been disobedient. Now we have to become obedient. That's all. This obedience means that... What is called? Obedience, the first law of discipline. So as soon as the people of this world, so-called advanced world, they become obedient to God, then there will be discipline and there will be peace. There is no discipline now. They are not agreeable to follow any rules and regulation. Everyone is God. Everyone is dog. Everyone can do anything, whatever he likes. So there is no discipline. So bhakti, bhakti, devotional service, means to undergo a, a disciplinary system of our life so that automatically we can revive our lost relationship with Lord, God, and we become happy. This is called bhakti. Abhidheya-nāma 'bhakti', 'prema'-prayojana. And why? What is the use? Suppose we don't revive our relationship? Then you'll be disturbed. You are after peace and prosperity.</~~span~~>		<div class="section" id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2></div>

	== Conversations and Morning Walks ==		<div class="sub_section" id="1974_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1974 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1974 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3></div>

	=== 1974 ~~Conversations and~~ Morning ~~Walks ==~~=		<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Morning Walk -- April 22, 1974, Hyderabad" link_text="Morning Walk -- April 22, 1974, Hyderabad">
			<div class="heading">Suppose if I say something to you, order, you cannot argue. That is not obedience. Obedience means without argument accepted.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading">'''Suppose if I say something to you, order, you cannot argue. That is not obedience. Obedience means without argument accepted.'''</span>~~		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 22, 1974, Hyderabad\|Morning Walk -- April 22, 1974, Hyderabad]]:'''

	~~<span class="CON-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 22, 1974, Hyderabad\|Morning Walk -- April 22, 1974, Hyderabad]]:'''

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	Prabhupāda: Yes, that is business. That is not love. I go to somebody and flatter him to get something. Just like a shopkeeper does also like that. He flatters the customers in so many ways to sell goods so that he can make some profit. So there is no question of love.</~~span~~>		Prabhupāda: Yes, that is business. That is not love. I go to somebody and flatter him to get something. Just like a shopkeeper does also like that. He flatters the customers in so many ways to sell goods so that he can make some profit. So there is no question of love.</div>
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== Lectures ==

=== Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures ===

'''Obedience, the first law of discipline.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.124-125 -- New York, November 26, 1966|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 20.124-125 -- New York, November 26, 1966]]:''' So anyway, one who takes shelter of Kṛṣṇa, he'll not be put into danger. Rest assured. So 'kṛṣṇa'-sambandha, 'bhakti'-prāptyera sādhana. So I have to revive my relationship. Relationship is there; simply I have forgotten. So I have to revive it, or remember it, that "Oh, I am such and such." Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā su-durlabhaḥ [Bg. 7.19]. I have to become a great soul by surrendering unto God. So that surrendering process is bhakti, or devotional service. My relationship is eternal with the Supreme. I have forgotten it. Now, that relationship is that He is the original father of everything, and we are all sons. So we have to become... We have... So long we have been disobedient. Now we have to become obedient. That's all. This obedience means that... What is called? Obedience, the first law of discipline. So as soon as the people of this world, so-called advanced world, they become obedient to God, then there will be discipline and there will be peace. There is no discipline now. They are not agreeable to follow any rules and regulation. Everyone is God. Everyone is dog. Everyone can do anything, whatever he likes. So there is no discipline. So bhakti, bhakti, devotional service, means to undergo a, a disciplinary system of our life so that automatically we can revive our lost relationship with Lord, God, and we become happy. This is called bhakti. Abhidheya-nāma 'bhakti', 'prema'-prayojana. And why? What is the use? Suppose we don't revive our relationship? Then you'll be disturbed. You are after peace and prosperity.

== Conversations and Morning Walks ==

=== 1974 Conversations and Morning Walks ===

'''Suppose if I say something to you, order, you cannot argue. That is not obedience. Obedience means without argument accepted.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- April 22, 1974, Hyderabad|Morning Walk -- April 22, 1974, Hyderabad]]:'''

Prabhupāda: God did not... That means you have to eat only meat. You have nothing to eat?

Pañcadraviḍa: But if I eat a plant, it is also killing.

Prabhupāda: That is your argument. But God says that "Thou shalt not kill." You cannot argue. This is the first theory... Suppose if I say something to you, order, you cannot argue. That is not obedience. Obedience means without argument accepted. That is obedience. That is love.

Satsvarūpa: The other important point is that we love God not for getting some reward. You say that the other important thing is that this person claims to be pious, but he approaches God for material reward.

Prabhupāda: Yes, that is business. That is not love. I go to somebody and flatter him to get something. Just like a shopkeeper does also like that. He flatters the customers in so many ways to sell goods so that he can make some profit. So there is no question of love.

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