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	<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam" class="section" sec_index="1" parent="compilation"><h2>Srimad-Bhagavatam</h2></div>		</div>
	<div id="SB_Canto_3" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam"><h3>SB Canto 3</h3></div>		<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam" class="section" sec_index="1" parent="compilation" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam"><h2>Srimad-Bhagavatam</h2>
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			<div id="SB_Canto_3" class="sub_section" sec_index="3" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Canto 3"><h3>SB Canto 3</h3>
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	<div id="SB3298_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="1197" link="SB 3.29.8" link_text="SB 3.29.8">		<div id="SB3298_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="1197" link="SB 3.29.8" link_text="SB 3.29.8">
	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.29.8\|SB 3.29.8, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text">Devotional service executed by a person who is envious, proud, violent and angry, and who is a separatist, is considered to be in the mode of darkness.</div>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.29.8\|SB 3.29.8, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">Devotional service executed by a person who is envious, proud, violent and angry, and who is a separatist, is considered to be in the mode of darkness.</p>
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	<div id="SB3299_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="1198" link="SB 3.29.9" link_text="SB 3.29.9">		<div id="SB3299_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="1198" link="SB 3.29.9" link_text="SB 3.29.9">
	<div class="heading">When the devotee has an interest or will different from the interest of the Supreme Lord, his mentality is that of a separatist.</div>		<div class="heading">When the devotee has an interest or will different from the interest of the Supreme Lord, his mentality is that of a separatist.
	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.29.9\|SB 3.29.9, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text">The worship of Deities in the temple by a separatist, with a motive for material enjoyment, fame and opulence, is devotion in the mode of passion.</div>		</div>
	<div class="purport text">The word "separatist" must be understood carefully. The Sanskrit words in this connection are bhinna-dṛk and pṛthag-bhāvaḥ. A separatist is one who sees his interest as separate from that of the Supreme Lord. Mixed devotees, or devotees in the modes of passion and ignorance, think that the interest of the Supreme Lord is supplying the orders of the devotee; the interest of such devotees is to draw from the Lord as much as possible for their sense gratification. This is the separatist mentality. Actually, pure devotion is explained in the previous chapter: the mind of the Supreme Lord and the mind of the devotee should be dovetailed. A devotee should not wish anything but to execute the desire of the Supreme. That is oneness. When the devotee has an interest or will different from the interest of the Supreme Lord, his mentality is that of a separatist. When the so-called devotee desires material enjoyment, without reference to the interest of the Supreme Lord, or he wants to become famous or opulent by utilizing the mercy or grace of the Supreme Lord, he is in the mode of passion.<br>Māyāvādīs, however, interpret this word "separatist" in a different way. They say that while worshiping the Lord, one should think himself one with the Supreme Lord. This is another adulterated form of devotion within the modes of material nature. The conception that the living entity is one with the Supreme is in the mode of ignorance. Oneness is actually based on oneness of interest. A pure devotee has no interest but to act on behalf of the Supreme Lord. When one has even a tinge of personal interest, his devotion is mixed with the three modes of material nature.</div>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.29.9\|SB 3.29.9, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">The worship of Deities in the temple by a separatist, with a motive for material enjoyment, fame and opulence, is devotion in the mode of passion.</p>
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			<div class="purport text"><p>The word "separatist" must be understood carefully. The Sanskrit words in this connection are bhinna-dṛk and pṛthag-bhāvaḥ. A separatist is one who sees his interest as separate from that of the Supreme Lord. Mixed devotees, or devotees in the modes of passion and ignorance, think that the interest of the Supreme Lord is supplying the orders of the devotee; the interest of such devotees is to draw from the Lord as much as possible for their sense gratification. This is the separatist mentality. Actually, pure devotion is explained in the previous chapter: the mind of the Supreme Lord and the mind of the devotee should be dovetailed. A devotee should not wish anything but to execute the desire of the Supreme. That is oneness. When the devotee has an interest or will different from the interest of the Supreme Lord, his mentality is that of a separatist. When the so-called devotee desires material enjoyment, without reference to the interest of the Supreme Lord, or he wants to become famous or opulent by utilizing the mercy or grace of the Supreme Lord, he is in the mode of passion.</p>
			<p>Māyāvādīs, however, interpret this word "separatist" in a different way. They say that while worshiping the Lord, one should think himself one with the Supreme Lord. This is another adulterated form of devotion within the modes of material nature. The conception that the living entity is one with the Supreme is in the mode of ignorance. Oneness is actually based on oneness of interest. A pure devotee has no interest but to act on behalf of the Supreme Lord. When one has even a tinge of personal interest, his devotion is mixed with the three modes of material nature.</p>
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	<div id="SB32923_2" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="1211" link="SB 3.29.23" link_text="SB 3.29.23">		<div id="SB32923_2" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="1211" link="SB 3.29.23" link_text="SB 3.29.23">
	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.29.23\|SB 3.29.23, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text">One who offers Me respect but is envious of the bodies of others and is therefore a separatist never attains peace of mind, because of his inimical behavior towards other living entities.</div>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.29.23\|SB 3.29.23, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">One who offers Me respect but is envious of the bodies of others and is therefore a separatist never attains peace of mind, because of his inimical behavior towards other living entities.</p>
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	<div id="SB32927_3" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="1215" link="SB 3.29.27" link_text="SB 3.29.27">		<div id="SB32927_3" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="1215" link="SB 3.29.27" link_text="SB 3.29.27">
	<div class="heading">The method of worshiping the individual soul is described here as either giving charitable gifts or behaving in a friendly manner, free from any separatist outlook.</div>		<div class="heading">The method of worshiping the individual soul is described here as either giving charitable gifts or behaving in a friendly manner, free from any separatist outlook.
	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.29.27\|SB 3.29.27, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text">It should not be misunderstood that because the Supersoul is dwelling within the heart of a living entity, the individual soul has become equal to Him. The equality of the Supersoul and the individual soul is misconceived by the impersonalist. Here it is distinctly mentioned that the individual soul should be recognized in relationship with the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The method of worshiping the individual soul is described here as either giving charitable gifts or behaving in a friendly manner, free from any separatist outlook. The impersonalist sometimes accepts a poor individual soul as being daridra-nārāyaṇa, meaning that Nārāyaṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, has become poor. This is a contradiction. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is full in all opulences. He can agree to live with a poor soul or even with an animal, but this does not make Him poor.</div>		</div>
			<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.29.27\|SB 3.29.27, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text"><p style="display: inline;">It should not be misunderstood that because the Supersoul is dwelling within the heart of a living entity, the individual soul has become equal to Him. The equality of the Supersoul and the individual soul is misconceived by the impersonalist. Here it is distinctly mentioned that the individual soul should be recognized in relationship with the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The method of worshiping the individual soul is described here as either giving charitable gifts or behaving in a friendly manner, free from any separatist outlook. The impersonalist sometimes accepts a poor individual soul as being daridra-nārāyaṇa, meaning that Nārāyaṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, has become poor. This is a contradiction. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is full in all opulences. He can agree to live with a poor soul or even with an animal, but this does not make Him poor.</p>
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			<div id="SB_Cantos_1014_to_12_Translations_Only" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="SB Cantos 10.14 to 12 (Translations Only)"><h3>SB Cantos 10.14 to 12 (Translations Only)</h3>
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			<div id="SB107025_0" class="quote" parent="SB_Cantos_10.14_to_12_(Translations_Only)" book="SB" index="2234" link="SB 10.70.25" link_text="SB 10.70.25">
			<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 10.70.25\|SB 10.70.25, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text"><p style="display: inline;">The kings said (as related through their messenger): O Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa, O immeasurable Soul, destroyer of fear for those surrendered to You ! Despite our separatist attitude, we have come to You for shelter out of fear of material existence.</p>
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			<div id="Correspondence" class="section" sec_index="6" parent="compilation" text="Correspondence"><h2>Correspondence</h2>
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			<div id="1973_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Correspondence" text="1973 Correspondence"><h3>1973 Correspondence</h3>
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	~~<div id="1973_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Correspondence"><h3>1973 Correspondence</h3></div>~~
	<div id="LettertoHariprasadaBadrukaCalcutta5March1973_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Correspondence" book="Let" index="88" link="Letter to Hariprasada Badruka -- Calcutta 5 March, 1973" link_text="Letter to Hariprasada Badruka -- Calcutta 5 March, 1973">		<div id="LettertoHariprasadaBadrukaCalcutta5March1973_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Correspondence" book="Let" index="88" link="Letter to Hariprasada Badruka -- Calcutta 5 March, 1973" link_text="Letter to Hariprasada Badruka -- Calcutta 5 March, 1973">
	<div class="heading">We must avoid the risk of a separatist movement; unity is our purpose.</div>		<div class="heading">We must avoid the risk of a separatist movement; unity is our purpose.
	<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Hariprasada Badruka -- Calcutta 5 March, 1973\|Letter to Hariprasada Badruka -- Calcutta 5 March, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text">I just arrived here the day before yesterday and I am glad to receive your Hyderabad progress report. The Deities mentioned are too expensive. Of course, we cannot collect money without Deity worship. Without Deity worship there is no life, and there must be preaching also.<br>But the thing is, without Indian devotees rural preaching cannot be effective. They are mostly illiterate, how they will understand? We must avoid the risk of a separatist movement, unity is our purpose; just like in London where the Indians are starting their own Hindu Radha-Krsna Temple. We want to avoid skin disease and the Indian people are like the tannery expert. Such a cobbler is expert at skin disease. They will see our Sankirtana Party and think it is a white dance. Anyway, how to gather Indian devotees, that program is wanting.</div>		</div>
	</div></div>		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Hariprasada Badruka -- Calcutta 5 March, 1973\|Letter to Hariprasada Badruka -- Calcutta 5 March, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I just arrived here the day before yesterday and I am glad to receive your Hyderabad progress report. The Deities mentioned are too expensive. Of course, we cannot collect money without Deity worship. Without Deity worship there is no life, and there must be preaching also.</p>
			<p>But the thing is, without Indian devotees rural preaching cannot be effective. They are mostly illiterate, how they will understand? We must avoid the risk of a separatist movement, unity is our purpose; just like in London where the Indians are starting their own Hindu Radha-Krsna Temple. We want to avoid skin disease and the Indian people are like the tannery expert. Such a cobbler is expert at skin disease. They will see our Sankirtana Party and think it is a white dance. Anyway, how to gather Indian devotees, that program is wanting.</p>
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Labangalatika at 23:03, 29 June 2009

2009-06-29T23:03:38Z

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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.29.8|SB 3.29.8, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text">Devotional service executed by a person who is envious, proud, violent and angry, and who is a separatist, is considered to be in the mode of darkness.</div>
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<div id="SB3299_1" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="1198" link="SB 3.29.9" link_text="SB 3.29.9">
<div class="heading">When the devotee has an interest or will different from the interest of the Supreme Lord, his mentality is that of a separatist.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.29.9|SB 3.29.9, Translation and Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text">The worship of Deities in the temple by a separatist, with a motive for material enjoyment, fame and opulence, is devotion in the mode of passion.</div>
<div class="purport text">The word "separatist" must be understood carefully. The Sanskrit words in this connection are bhinna-dṛk and pṛthag-bhāvaḥ. A separatist is one who sees his interest as separate from that of the Supreme Lord. Mixed devotees, or devotees in the modes of passion and ignorance, think that the interest of the Supreme Lord is supplying the orders of the devotee; the interest of such devotees is to draw from the Lord as much as possible for their sense gratification. This is the separatist mentality. Actually, pure devotion is explained in the previous chapter: the mind of the Supreme Lord and the mind of the devotee should be dovetailed. A devotee should not wish anything but to execute the desire of the Supreme. That is oneness. When the devotee has an interest or will different from the interest of the Supreme Lord, his mentality is that of a separatist. When the so-called devotee desires material enjoyment, without reference to the interest of the Supreme Lord, or he wants to become famous or opulent by utilizing the mercy or grace of the Supreme Lord, he is in the mode of passion.<br>Māyāvādīs, however, interpret this word "separatist" in a different way. They say that while worshiping the Lord, one should think himself one with the Supreme Lord. This is another adulterated form of devotion within the modes of material nature. The conception that the living entity is one with the Supreme is in the mode of ignorance. Oneness is actually based on oneness of interest. A pure devotee has no interest but to act on behalf of the Supreme Lord. When one has even a tinge of personal interest, his devotion is mixed with the three modes of material nature.</div>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.29.23|SB 3.29.23, Translation]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="trans text">One who offers Me respect but is envious of the bodies of others and is therefore a separatist never attains peace of mind, because of his inimical behavior towards other living entities.</div>
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<div id="SB32927_3" class="quote" parent="SB_Canto_3" book="SB" index="1215" link="SB 3.29.27" link_text="SB 3.29.27">
<div class="heading">The method of worshiping the individual soul is described here as either giving charitable gifts or behaving in a friendly manner, free from any separatist outlook.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:SB 3.29.27|SB 3.29.27, Purport]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="purport text">It should not be misunderstood that because the Supersoul is dwelling within the heart of a living entity, the individual soul has become equal to Him. The equality of the Supersoul and the individual soul is misconceived by the impersonalist. Here it is distinctly mentioned that the individual soul should be recognized in relationship with the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The method of worshiping the individual soul is described here as either giving charitable gifts or behaving in a friendly manner, free from any separatist outlook. The impersonalist sometimes accepts a poor individual soul as being daridra-nārāyaṇa, meaning that Nārāyaṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, has become poor. This is a contradiction. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is full in all opulences. He can agree to live with a poor soul or even with an animal, but this does not make Him poor.</div>
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<div id="Correspondence" class="section" sec_index="6" parent="compilation"><h2>Correspondence</h2></div>
<div id="1973_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="8" parent="Correspondence"><h3>1973 Correspondence</h3></div>
<div id="LettertoHariprasadaBadrukaCalcutta5March1973_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Correspondence" book="Let" index="88" link="Letter to Hariprasada Badruka -- Calcutta 5 March, 1973" link_text="Letter to Hariprasada Badruka -- Calcutta 5 March, 1973">
<div class="heading">We must avoid the risk of a separatist movement; unity is our purpose.</div>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Hariprasada Badruka -- Calcutta 5 March, 1973|Letter to Hariprasada Badruka -- Calcutta 5 March, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text">I just arrived here the day before yesterday and I am glad to receive your Hyderabad progress report. The Deities mentioned are too expensive. Of course, we cannot collect money without Deity worship. Without Deity worship there is no life, and there must be preaching also.<br>But the thing is, without Indian devotees rural preaching cannot be effective. They are mostly illiterate, how they will understand? We must avoid the risk of a separatist movement, unity is our purpose; just like in London where the Indians are starting their own Hindu Radha-Krsna Temple. We want to avoid skin disease and the Indian people are like the tannery expert. Such a cobbler is expert at skin disease. They will see our Sankirtana Party and think it is a white dance. Anyway, how to gather Indian devotees, that program is wanting.</div>
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