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		<title>Vanibot: Vanibot #0019: LinkReviser - Revised links and redirected them to the de facto address when redirect exists</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Vanibot #0019: LinkReviser - Revised links and redirected them to the de facto address when redirect exists&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 17:56, 19 May 2018&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;But I know that you never underwent such transcendental training except some severe penances which you invented for your purpose as you have invented so many things in the course of experimenting with the relative truths. You might have easily avoided them if you had approached the Guru as abovementioned. But your sincere efforts to attain some Godly qualities by austerities etc surely have raised you to some higher position which you can better utilize for the purpose of the Absolute Truth. If you, however, remain satisfied with such temporary position only and do not try to know the Absolute Truth, then surely you are to fall down from the artificially exalted position under the laws of Nature. But if you really want to approach the Absolute Truth and want to do some real good to the people in general all over the world, which shall include your ideas of unity, peace and non-violence, then you must give up the rotten politics immediately and rise up for the preaching work of the philosophy and religion of &amp;quot;Bhagavad-gita&amp;quot; without offering unnecessary and dogmatic interpretations on them. I had occasionally discussed this subject in my paper &amp;quot;Back to Godhead&amp;quot; and a leaf from the same is enclosed herewith for your reference.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;But I know that you never underwent such transcendental training except some severe penances which you invented for your purpose as you have invented so many things in the course of experimenting with the relative truths. You might have easily avoided them if you had approached the Guru as abovementioned. But your sincere efforts to attain some Godly qualities by austerities etc surely have raised you to some higher position which you can better utilize for the purpose of the Absolute Truth. If you, however, remain satisfied with such temporary position only and do not try to know the Absolute Truth, then surely you are to fall down from the artificially exalted position under the laws of Nature. But if you really want to approach the Absolute Truth and want to do some real good to the people in general all over the world, which shall include your ideas of unity, peace and non-violence, then you must give up the rotten politics immediately and rise up for the preaching work of the philosophy and religion of &amp;quot;Bhagavad-gita&amp;quot; without offering unnecessary and dogmatic interpretations on them. I had occasionally discussed this subject in my paper &amp;quot;Back to Godhead&amp;quot; and a leaf from the same is enclosed herewith for your reference.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;compilation&amp;quot;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;facts&amp;quot;&amp;gt; {{terms|&amp;quot;severe austerities and penances&amp;quot;|&amp;quot;severe austerities, penances&amp;quot;|&amp;quot;severe austerity, penances&amp;quot;|&amp;quot;severe penance&amp;quot;|&amp;quot;severe penances&amp;quot;|&amp;quot;…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
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&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;LettertoMahatmaGandhiCawnpore12July1947_0&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;quote&amp;quot; parent=&amp;quot;1947_to_1965_Correspondence&amp;quot; book=&amp;quot;Let&amp;quot; index=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; link=&amp;quot;Letter to Mahatma Gandhi -- Cawnpore 12 July, 1947&amp;quot; link_text=&amp;quot;Letter to Mahatma Gandhi -- Cawnpore 12 July, 1947&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;link&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Vanisource:Letter to Mahatma Gandhi -- Cawnpore 12 July, 1947|Letter to Mahatma Gandhi -- Cawnpore 12 July, 1947]]: &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;display: inline;&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;text&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p style=&amp;quot;display: inline;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;In the Katha Upanisad it is ordered that one must approach the bona fide Guru who is not only well versed in all the scriptures of the world but is also the realized soul in Brahman the Absolute—in order to learn the science of Absolute Truth. So also it is instructed in the Bhagavad-gita as follows:—&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:tad viddhi pranipatena&lt;br /&gt;
:pariprasnena sevaya&lt;br /&gt;
:upadeksyanti tad jnanam&lt;br /&gt;
:jnaninas tattvadarsinah&lt;br /&gt;
:([[Vanisource:BG 4.34|BG 4.34]])&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;But I know that you never underwent such transcendental training except some severe penances which you invented for your purpose as you have invented so many things in the course of experimenting with the relative truths. You might have easily avoided them if you had approached the Guru as abovementioned. But your sincere efforts to attain some Godly qualities by austerities etc surely have raised you to some higher position which you can better utilize for the purpose of the Absolute Truth. If you, however, remain satisfied with such temporary position only and do not try to know the Absolute Truth, then surely you are to fall down from the artificially exalted position under the laws of Nature. But if you really want to approach the Absolute Truth and want to do some real good to the people in general all over the world, which shall include your ideas of unity, peace and non-violence, then you must give up the rotten politics immediately and rise up for the preaching work of the philosophy and religion of &amp;quot;Bhagavad-gita&amp;quot; without offering unnecessary and dogmatic interpretations on them. I had occasionally discussed this subject in my paper &amp;quot;Back to Godhead&amp;quot; and a leaf from the same is enclosed herewith for your reference.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;link&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Vanisource:Letter to Rudra -- London 11 November, 1969|Letter to Rudra -- London 11 November, 1969]]: &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;display: inline;&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;text&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p style=&amp;quot;display: inline;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The letter head stationery is very nicely printed. Your beads have been chanted upon duly and sanctified and are returned herewith. It is very much pleasing to know that Vancouver center is improving daily. Cidananda is a very good organizing leader, Ananda is a good soul, and you are also a sincere devotee, so combinedly together push on this Krishna Consciousness Movement. Surely you will be successful. Regarding the vows and chanting method you have adopted, it is very nice. But do not impose something which will be difficult to execute.  There is no need of fasting once every week. Two days fasting per month on Ekadasi is sufficient. Besides that there are other special fasting days. Spiritual realization depends on austerities and vows, but in this age, by the Mercy of Krishna and Lord Caitanya, we need not undergo very severe penances, as we are unable to do it. The rules and regulations which we have already prescribed, that is sufficient for ordinary men. But as you have increased the chanting of beads to 25 rounds daily, that is very nice.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;LettertoSridharaVrindaban19August1974_0&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;quote&amp;quot; parent=&amp;quot;1974_Correspondence&amp;quot; book=&amp;quot;Let&amp;quot; index=&amp;quot;339&amp;quot; link=&amp;quot;Letter to Sridhara -- Vrindaban 19 August, 1974&amp;quot; link_text=&amp;quot;Letter to Sridhara -- Vrindaban 19 August, 1974&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;link&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Vanisource:Letter to Sridhara -- Vrindaban 19 August, 1974|Letter to Sridhara -- Vrindaban 19 August, 1974]]: &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;display: inline;&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;text&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p style=&amp;quot;display: inline;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Regarding your question about eternal spiritual and temporary spiritual, the temporary spiritual is the impersonal brahmajyoti. The impersonalists by severe austerities and penances arise to the Brahman effulgence. But it is only temporary. Eternally we cannot remain aloof. As living entities, we want pleasure in association; therefore we see in the material world where for sense gratification the karmis take so much responsibility. First of all they accept one wife. The more he enjoys the wife, the more he becomes implicated. So, this means that we must have pleasure even at the risk of gross implication. Therefore our Krishna Consciousness movement is that we want pleasure but without any implication. This is happening actually. All of our Krishna Consciousness students they are enjoying life without any implication.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Visnu Murti</name></author>
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