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	~~[[Category:society]]~~		<div class="section" id="Srimad-Bhagavatam" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam"><h2>Srimad-Bhagavatam</h2></div>

	== ~~Srimad-Bhagavatam =~~=		<div class="sub_section" id="SB_Canto_3" text="SB Canto 3"><h3>SB Canto 3</h3></div>

	=== SB ~~Canto~~ 3 ===		<div class="quote" book="SB" link="SB 3.24.40" link_text="SB 3.24.40, Purport">
			<div class="heading">So-called spiritual societies concocted in modern times give sannyāsa even to women, although there is no sanction in the Vedic literature for a woman's accepting sannyāsa.</div>

	'''So-called spiritual societies concocted in modern times give sannyāsa even to women, although there is no sanction in the Vedic literature for a woman's accepting sannyāsa.~~'''~~		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:SB 3.24.40\|SB 3.24.40, Purport]]:'''Kardama Muni followed the Vedic injunction that no one in sannyāsa life can have any kind of relationship with women. But what is the position of a woman who is left by her husband? She is entrusted to the son, and the son promises that he will deliver his mother from entanglement. A woman is not supposed to take sannyāsa. So-called spiritual societies concocted in modern times give sannyāsa even to women, although there is no sanction in the Vedic literature for a woman's accepting sannyāsa. Otherwise, if it were sanctioned, Kardama Muni could have taken his wife and given her sannyāsa. The woman must remain at home. She has only three stages of life: dependency on the father in childhood, dependency on the husband in youth and, in old age, dependency on the grown-up son, such as Kapila. In old age the progress of woman depends on the grown-up son. The ideal son, Kapila Muni, is assuring His father of the deliverance of His mother so that His father may go peacefully without anxiety for his good wife.</div>
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	<~~span~~ class="~~SB-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:SB 3.24.40\|SB 3.24.40, Purport]]:'''Kardama Muni followed the Vedic injunction that no one in sannyāsa life can have any kind of relationship with women. But what is the position of a woman who is left by her husband? She is entrusted to the son, and the son promises that he will deliver his mother from entanglement. A woman is not supposed to take sannyāsa. So-called spiritual societies concocted in modern times give sannyāsa even to women, although there is no sanction in the Vedic literature for a woman's accepting sannyāsa. Otherwise, if it were sanctioned, Kardama Muni could have taken his wife and given her sannyāsa. The woman must remain at home. She has only three stages of life: dependency on the father in childhood, dependency on the husband in youth and, in old age, dependency on the grown-up son, such as Kapila. In old age the progress of woman depends on the grown-up son. The ideal son, Kapila Muni, is assuring His father of the deliverance of His mother so that His father may go peacefully without anxiety for his good wife.</~~span~~>		<div class="section" id="Other_Books_by_Srila_Prabhupada" text="Other Books by Srila Prabhupada"><h2>Other Books by Srila Prabhupada</h2></div>

	== ~~Other Books by Srila Prabhupada =~~=		<div class="sub_section" id="Message_of_Godhead" text="Message of Godhead"><h3>Message of Godhead</h3></div>

	=== Message of Godhead ===		<div class="quote" book="OB" link="MOG 1" link_text="Message of Godhead 1">
			<div class="heading">The professional heads of various spiritual societies or communities often may not have attained to this standard of spiritual perfection and so may not possess the qualifications required for being a spiritual master.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">'''The professional heads of various spiritual societies or communities often may not have attained to this standard of spiritual perfection and so may not possess the qualifications required for being a spiritual master.~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:MOG 1\|Message of Godhead 1]]:''' The process of initiation begins from the date when we establish our transcendental relationship with the spiritual master. In the Upaniñads and allied scriptures, it is ordained that one must approach with awe and reverence the feet of a spiritual master who is well versed in all the scriptures and who has attained perfection in transcendental knowledge. To attain perfection in transcendental knowledge is to accept the disciplic succession, the spiritual line, by culture, practice, and education in that line. The professional heads of various spiritual societies or communities often may not have attained to this standard of spiritual perfection and so may not possess the qualifications required for being a spiritual master. It is therefore no use to approach such professional spiritual masters as a matter of formality or custom. Attainment of spiritual perfection can never be possible without undergoing spiritual discipline.</div>
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	<~~span~~ class="~~OB-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:MOG 1\|Message of Godhead 1]]:''' The process of initiation begins from the date when we establish our transcendental relationship with the spiritual master. In the Upaniñads and allied scriptures, it is ordained that one must approach with awe and reverence the feet of a spiritual master who is well versed in all the scriptures and who has attained perfection in transcendental knowledge. To attain perfection in transcendental knowledge is to accept the disciplic succession, the spiritual line, by culture, practice, and education in that line. The professional heads of various spiritual societies or communities often may not have attained to this standard of spiritual perfection and so may not possess the qualifications required for being a spiritual master. It is therefore no use to approach such professional spiritual masters as a matter of formality or custom. Attainment of spiritual perfection can never be possible without undergoing spiritual discipline.</~~span~~>		<div class="section" id="Lectures" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2></div>

	== Lectures ==		<div class="sub_section" id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3></div>

	=== ~~Srimad~~-~~Bhagavatam Lectures =~~==		<div class="quote" book="Lec" link="Lecture on SB 3.26.21 -- Bombay, December 30, 1974" link_text="Lecture on SB 3.26.21 -- Bombay, December 30, 1974">
			<div class="heading">Everyone is seeking peace of mind. People come to spiritual societies or some other way.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">'''Everyone is seeking peace of mind. People come to spiritual societies or some other way.~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.21 -- Bombay, December 30, 1974\|Lecture on SB 3.26.21 -- Bombay, December 30, 1974]]:''' Everyone is seeking peace of mind. People come to spiritual societies or some other way. Everyone is searching after some peace, śāntam. Śānti. The śānti can be attained when this sattva-guṇaṁ svaccham, when the sattva-guṇa, your status will be on the sattva-guṇa and completely cleansed. Then you can get śānti. Completely cleansed means... That is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā, na śocati na kāṅkṣati: "There is no lamentation, and there is no hankering." Then it is śānti. As soon as there is some hankering, you cannot have śānti. That is not possible.</div>
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	<~~span~~ class="~~LEC~~-~~statistics~~">~~'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.21~~ -- Bombay, December 30, 1974\|Lecture on SB 3.26.21 -- Bombay, December 30, 1974]]:''' Everyone is seeking peace of mind. People come to spiritual societies or some other way. Everyone is searching after some peace, śāntam. Śānti. The śānti can be attained when this sattva-guṇaṁ svaccham, when the sattva-guṇa, your status will be on the sattva-guṇa and completely cleansed. Then you can get śānti. Completely cleansed means... That is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā, na śocati na kāṅkṣati: "There is no lamentation, and there is no hankering." Then it is śānti. As soon as there is some hankering, you cannot have śānti. That is not possible.</~~span~~>		<div class="sub_section" id="Sri_Caitanya-caritamrta_Lectures" text="Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures"><h3>Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures</h3></div>

	=== ~~Sri Caitanya~~-~~caritamrta Lectures =~~==		<div class="quote" book="Lec" link="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 21.13-49 -- New York, January 4, 1967" link_text="Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 21.13-49 -- New York, January 4, 1967">
			<div class="heading">There are many authentic Vedic literatures. They are accepted by the spiritual societies.</div>

	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading">'''There are many authentic Vedic literatures. They are accepted by the spiritual societies.'''</span>~~		<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 21.13-49 -- New York, January 4, 1967\|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 21.13-49 -- New York, January 4, 1967]]:''' In Indian spiritual society the evidences are given from Vedic literature. Then it is accepted, not that mental speculationist's theory, "I think this. I think that..." No. Just the same example I have several times cited before you, that the law court, they give evidences from the lawbook, sections from the lawbook. Similarly, the process is whenever we speak something transcendental subject, if we can pick up evidences from Vedic literatures... There are many authentic Vedic literatures. They are accepted by the spiritual societies. And one's learning is proved if he can give evidences from these Vedic literatures. Similarly Lord Caitanya, whatever He is speaking, He's giving immediately references from Vedic literature. So, so far the existence of the spiritual world and different planets, spiritual planets, Vaikuṇṭha and Kṛṣṇaloka, one may think... Of course, those who have no knowledge, they may think that these are all stories. No, they are not stories. They are actual facts, and Lord Caitanya is giving evidences from Brahma-saṁhitā, from Padma Purāṇa, and similar other Vedic literatures.</div>
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	~~<span class="LEC-statistics~~">'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 21.13-49 -- New York, January 4, 1967\|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 21.13-49 -- New York, January 4, 1967]]:''' In Indian spiritual society the evidences are given from Vedic literature. Then it is accepted, not that mental speculationist's theory, "I think this. I think that..." No. Just the same example I have several times cited before you, that the law court, they give evidences from the lawbook, sections from the lawbook. Similarly, the process is whenever we speak something transcendental subject, if we can pick up evidences from Vedic literatures... There are many authentic Vedic literatures. They are accepted by the spiritual societies. And one's learning is proved if he can give evidences from these Vedic literatures. Similarly Lord Caitanya, whatever He is speaking, He's giving immediately references from Vedic literature. So, so far the existence of the spiritual world and different planets, spiritual planets, Vaikuṇṭha and Kṛṣṇaloka, one may think... Of course, those who have no knowledge, they may think that these are all stories. No, they are not stories. They are actual facts, and Lord Caitanya is giving evidences from Brahma-saṁhitā, from Padma Purāṇa, and similar other Vedic literatures.</~~span~~>		</div>

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== Srimad-Bhagavatam ==

=== SB Canto 3 ===

'''So-called spiritual societies concocted in modern times give sannyāsa even to women, although there is no sanction in the Vedic literature for a woman's accepting sannyāsa.'''

'''[[Vanisource:SB 3.24.40|SB 3.24.40, Purport]]:'''Kardama Muni followed the Vedic injunction that no one in sannyāsa life can have any kind of relationship with women. But what is the position of a woman who is left by her husband? She is entrusted to the son, and the son promises that he will deliver his mother from entanglement. A woman is not supposed to take sannyāsa. So-called spiritual societies concocted in modern times give sannyāsa even to women, although there is no sanction in the Vedic literature for a woman's accepting sannyāsa. Otherwise, if it were sanctioned, Kardama Muni could have taken his wife and given her sannyāsa. The woman must remain at home. She has only three stages of life: dependency on the father in childhood, dependency on the husband in youth and, in old age, dependency on the grown-up son, such as Kapila. In old age the progress of woman depends on the grown-up son. The ideal son, Kapila Muni, is assuring His father of the deliverance of His mother so that His father may go peacefully without anxiety for his good wife.

== Other Books by Srila Prabhupada ==

=== Message of Godhead ===

'''The professional heads of various spiritual societies or communities often may not have attained to this standard of spiritual perfection and so may not possess the qualifications required for being a spiritual master.'''

'''[[Vanisource:MOG 1|Message of Godhead 1]]:''' The process of initiation begins from the date when we establish our transcendental relationship with the spiritual master. In the Upaniñads and allied scriptures, it is ordained that one must approach with awe and reverence the feet of a spiritual master who is well versed in all the scriptures and who has attained perfection in transcendental knowledge. To attain perfection in transcendental knowledge is to accept the disciplic succession, the spiritual line, by culture, practice, and education in that line. The professional heads of various spiritual societies or communities often may not have attained to this standard of spiritual perfection and so may not possess the qualifications required for being a spiritual master. It is therefore no use to approach such professional spiritual masters as a matter of formality or custom. Attainment of spiritual perfection can never be possible without undergoing spiritual discipline.

== Lectures ==

=== Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures ===

'''Everyone is seeking peace of mind. People come to spiritual societies or some other way.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.26.21 -- Bombay, December 30, 1974|Lecture on SB 3.26.21 -- Bombay, December 30, 1974]]:''' Everyone is seeking peace of mind. People come to spiritual societies or some other way. Everyone is searching after some peace, śāntam. Śānti. The śānti can be attained when this sattva-guṇaṁ svaccham, when the sattva-guṇa, your status will be on the sattva-guṇa and completely cleansed. Then you can get śānti. Completely cleansed means... That is explained in the Bhagavad-gītā, na śocati na kāṅkṣati: "There is no lamentation, and there is no hankering." Then it is śānti. As soon as there is some hankering, you cannot have śānti. That is not possible.

=== Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures ===

'''There are many authentic Vedic literatures. They are accepted by the spiritual societies.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 21.13-49 -- New York, January 4, 1967|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 21.13-49 -- New York, January 4, 1967]]:''' In Indian spiritual society the evidences are given from Vedic literature. Then it is accepted, not that mental speculationist's theory, "I think this. I think that..." No. Just the same example I have several times cited before you, that the law court, they give evidences from the lawbook, sections from the lawbook. Similarly, the process is whenever we speak something transcendental subject, if we can pick up evidences from Vedic literatures... There are many authentic Vedic literatures. They are accepted by the spiritual societies. And one's learning is proved if he can give evidences from these Vedic literatures. Similarly Lord Caitanya, whatever He is speaking, He's giving immediately references from Vedic literature. So, so far the existence of the spiritual world and different planets, spiritual planets, Vaikuṇṭha and Kṛṣṇaloka, one may think... Of course, those who have no knowledge, they may think that these are all stories. No, they are not stories. They are actual facts, and Lord Caitanya is giving evidences from Brahma-saṁhitā, from Padma Purāṇa, and similar other Vedic literatures.