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			<div id="RoomConversationwithPanditafromTirupatiandGovernmentMinisterAugust241976Hyderabad_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="283" link="Room Conversation with Pandita from Tirupati and Government Minister -- August 24, 1976, Hyderabad" link_text="Room Conversation with Pandita from Tirupati and Government Minister -- August 24, 1976, Hyderabad">
	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">~~'''~~In Western countries the universities are closing philosophical class. No student is coming. This is the position.~~'''~~</~~span~~>		<div class="heading">In Western countries the universities are closing philosophical class. No student is coming. This is the position.
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	<span class="~~CON-statistics~~">~~'''~~[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Pandita from Tirupati and Government Minister -- August 24, 1976, Hyderabad\|Room Conversation with Pandita from Tirupati and Government Minister -- August 24, 1976, Hyderabad]]:~~'''~~		<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Pandita from Tirupati and Government Minister -- August 24, 1976, Hyderabad\|Room Conversation with Pandita from Tirupati and Government Minister -- August 24, 1976, Hyderabad]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Paṇḍita: Now, this is my idea. That knowledge that I have must be utilized in this manner. It can be utilized in this manner. You are creating so many disciples. They are interested in learning Gītā and the philosophy and other things. Serious students who are interested in philosophy, who would like to go sit and...</p>
			<p>Prabhupāda: You'll find hardly anyone interested in philosophy nowadays. They are interested in technology. In Western countries the universities are closing philosophical class. No student is coming. This is the position.</p>
	Paṇḍita: Now, this is my idea. That knowledge that I have must be utilized in this manner. It can be utilized in this manner. You are creating so many disciples. They are interested in learning Gītā and the philosophy and other things. Serious students who are interested in philosophy, who would like to go sit and...		<p>Paṇḍita: I came for philosophy, even in this age.</p>
			<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, your case is different. But generally people they are losing interest in philosophy because they are becoming śūdras. Kalau śūdra-sambhavaḥ. They are after some job to get money. So they see that "What I shall get by learning philosophy? Let me learn technology. I'll get a good job and good money and enjoy life." This is...</p>
	Prabhupāda: You'll find hardly anyone interested in philosophy nowadays. They are interested in technology. In Western countries the universities are closing philosophical class. No student is coming. This is the position.		<p>Paṇḍita: That is general trend. Of course, I know.</p>
			<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. In India also the same thing.</p>
	Paṇḍita: I came for philosophy, even in this age.		</div>
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	Prabhupāda: No, no, your case is different. But generally people they are losing interest in philosophy because they are becoming śūdras. Kalau śūdra-sambhavaḥ. They are after some job to get money. So they see that "What I shall get by learning philosophy? Let me learn technology. I'll get a good job and good money and enjoy life." This is...		<div id="Correspondence" class="section" sec_index="6" parent="compilation" text="Correspondence"><h2>Correspondence</h2>
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	Paṇḍita: That is general trend. Of course, I know.		<div id="1976_Correspondence" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Correspondence" text="1976 Correspondence"><h3>1976 Correspondence</h3>
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	Prabhupāda: Yes. In India also the same thing.</~~span~~>		<div id="LettertoDrChatterjeeVrindaban27September1976_0" class="quote" parent="1976_Correspondence" book="Let" index="535" link="Letter to Dr. Chatterjee -- Vrindaban 27 September, 1976" link_text="Letter to Dr. Chatterjee -- Vrindaban 27 September, 1976">
			<div class="heading">People nowadays are only interested in money-earning philosophy. Nobody goes to the philosophical classes in universities.
	== ~~Correspondence~~ ==		</div>
			<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Letter to Dr. Chatterjee -- Vrindaban 27 September, 1976\|Letter to Dr. Chatterjee -- Vrindaban 27 September, 1976]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">I have no objection to your proposal and I can finance this proposal also. But I am afraid there will be hardly any students—that is the difficulty. I have seen in foreign countries that practically no students join high philosophical and scientific classes. People nowadays are only interested in money-earning philosophy. Nobody goes to the philosophical classes in universities. A similar institute was imagined by my Godbrother Bon Maharaja in Vrindaban, but it has not become very successful. There are many difficulties in the line, but I like the idea; therefore if some practical solution can be made we can discuss personally, but I appreciate your idea. The only difficulty I'm feeling is whether we can get sufficient students. Some of my disciples who are Ph.D.'s in science, they are also attempting our institution in Boston U.S.A., but I'm still doubtful how far they'll be successful on account of scarcity of students. It is said in the Kali-yuga everyman is on the standard of sudra, and the curriculum suggested by you is meant for the brahmana—that is the difficulty.</p>
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	<~~span~~ class="~~q_heading~~">~~'''~~ People nowadays are only interested in money-earning philosophy. Nobody goes to the philosophical classes in universities.~~'''~~</~~span~~>		</div>

	<span class="~~LET-statistics~~">~~'''~~[[Vanisource:Letter to Dr. Chatterjee -- Vrindaban 27 September, 1976\|Letter to Dr. Chatterjee -- Vrindaban 27 September, 1976]]:~~'''~~ I have no objection to your proposal and I can finance this proposal also. But I am afraid there will be hardly any students—that is the difficulty. I have seen in foreign countries that practically no students join high philosophical and scientific classes. People nowadays are only interested in money-earning philosophy. Nobody goes to the philosophical classes in universities. A similar institute was imagined by my Godbrother Bon Maharaja in Vrindaban, but it has not become very successful. There are many difficulties in the line, but I like the idea; therefore if some practical solution can be made we can discuss personally, but I appreciate your idea. The only difficulty I'm feeling is whether we can get sufficient students. Some of my disciples who are Ph.D.'s in science, they are also attempting our institution in Boston U.S.A., but I'm still doubtful how far they'll be successful on account of scarcity of students. It is said in the Kali-yuga everyman is on the standard of sudra, and the curriculum suggested by you is meant for the brahmana—that is the difficulty.</~~span~~>

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== Conversations and Morning Walks ==

=== 1976 Conversations and Morning Walks ===

'''In Western countries the universities are closing philosophical class. No student is coming. This is the position.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Pandita from Tirupati and Government Minister -- August 24, 1976, Hyderabad|Room Conversation with Pandita from Tirupati and Government Minister -- August 24, 1976, Hyderabad]]:'''

Paṇḍita: Now, this is my idea. That knowledge that I have must be utilized in this manner. It can be utilized in this manner. You are creating so many disciples. They are interested in learning Gītā and the philosophy and other things. Serious students who are interested in philosophy, who would like to go sit and...

Prabhupāda: You'll find hardly anyone interested in philosophy nowadays. They are interested in technology. In Western countries the universities are closing philosophical class. No student is coming. This is the position.

Paṇḍita: I came for philosophy, even in this age.

Prabhupāda: No, no, your case is different. But generally people they are losing interest in philosophy because they are becoming śūdras. Kalau śūdra-sambhavaḥ. They are after some job to get money. So they see that "What I shall get by learning philosophy? Let me learn technology. I'll get a good job and good money and enjoy life." This is...

Paṇḍita: That is general trend. Of course, I know.

Prabhupāda: Yes. In India also the same thing.

== Correspondence ==

=== 1976 Correspondence ===

''' People nowadays are only interested in money-earning philosophy. Nobody goes to the philosophical classes in universities.'''

'''[[Vanisource:Letter to Dr. Chatterjee -- Vrindaban 27 September, 1976|Letter to Dr. Chatterjee -- Vrindaban 27 September, 1976]]:''' I have no objection to your proposal and I can finance this proposal also. But I am afraid there will be hardly any students—that is the difficulty. I have seen in foreign countries that practically no students join high philosophical and scientific classes. People nowadays are only interested in money-earning philosophy. Nobody goes to the philosophical classes in universities. A similar institute was imagined by my Godbrother Bon Maharaja in Vrindaban, but it has not become very successful. There are many difficulties in the line, but I like the idea; therefore if some practical solution can be made we can discuss personally, but I appreciate your idea. The only difficulty I'm feeling is whether we can get sufficient students. Some of my disciples who are Ph.D.'s in science, they are also attempting our institution in Boston U.S.A., but I'm still doubtful how far they'll be successful on account of scarcity of students. It is said in the Kali-yuga everyman is on the standard of sudra, and the curriculum suggested by you is meant for the brahmana—that is the difficulty.

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Sahadeva at 18:56, 1 December 2010

Visnu Murti at 13:38, 19 December 2008